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(AZCentral)   News: AZ Secretary of State says that under state law, the name of a state senator who dropped dead while riding his horse over the weekend must stay on the ballot Fark: He was running unopposed   (azcentral.com ) divider line
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2014-08-06 10:58:25 AM  
I think we have the plot for Weekend at Bernie's III
 
2014-08-06 11:01:45 AM  
He may be the best legislator of the upcoming term in that state.

I know he would be here in Louisiana.
 
2014-08-06 11:31:51 AM  
He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.
 
2014-08-06 11:45:06 AM  

revrendjim: He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.


That would have been a better headline
 
2014-08-06 11:55:32 AM  

revrendjim: He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.


{rimshot}
 
2014-08-06 12:53:55 PM  

revrendjim: He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.


+1.
 
2014-08-06 12:55:58 PM  
Okay. So apparently EVERYONE in AZ is retarded
 
2014-08-06 12:56:42 PM  
Sounds like he's got the job dead to rights.
 
2014-08-06 12:56:59 PM  
Is there still time to get another candidate's name on the ballot or do I... er, they have to be a write-in?
 
2014-08-06 12:57:00 PM  
Josh?

Yeah Sam?

Republicans vote late, don't they Josh?

No.. That's Democrats.
 
2014-08-06 12:57:28 PM  
Going after the "neigh" vote?

Gonna get some t-shirts made up.  "I blame the dead guy" and "I voted for a corpse of course"
 
2014-08-06 12:57:44 PM  
Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-06 12:57:52 PM  
Elect the horse.
 
2014-08-06 12:58:19 PM  
Isn't this a thing in a lot of states?
 
2014-08-06 12:58:26 PM  
Can Arizona get their own tag now?
 
2014-08-06 01:00:02 PM  
Dead in the saddle again.
 
2014-08-06 01:01:14 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]


FTFA

Bennett said under state law "since the ballots have printed, there is no provision allowed for substituting someone else's name on there or allowing write-ins."

/every state I've lived in allowed write-ins, maybe because it is a primary I don't know.
 
2014-08-06 01:01:37 PM  

Dragonflew: Elect the horse.


They can't.  It's a state law that only asses can hold office.
 
2014-08-06 01:01:44 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]


Nope.  That's the REALLY farked up part:
Bennett said under state law "since the ballots have printed, there is no provision allowed for substituting someone else's name on there or allowing write-ins."
 
Bf+
2014-08-06 01:02:24 PM  
Auto-play video  makes baby Jesus stabby.
 
2014-08-06 01:02:51 PM  
Hey, John Ashcroft lost his senate seat to a dead guy.
 
2014-08-06 01:03:51 PM  

toraque: Dragonflew: Elect the horse.

They can't.  It's a state law that only asses can hold office.


What? I'm sure Republicans can hold offices in AZ.
 
2014-08-06 01:04:38 PM  
What do you call a dead politician?

A good start!

/I'll be here all week.
//Tip your waitress and bartenders
 
2014-08-06 01:05:00 PM  
and yet if it was Chicago, he would still vote for himself
 
2014-08-06 01:05:19 PM  

Dragonflew: Elect the horse.


To the Evil League of Evil.

/there will be blood. It could be yours....
 
2014-08-06 01:08:06 PM  

abhorrent1: Okay. So apparently EVERYONE in AZ is retarded


Not retarded at all. Several state have similar laws. Once the ballots have been printed, they cannot be changed and local officials can choose a replacement to complete the current term and party officials get to select their candidate for a general election. In AZ, it is a two step process and the party officials only get to chose from potential candidates selected by a commission.

Former Attorney General and later Senator John Ashcroft lost his re-election bid to former Governor Mel Carnahan in Missouri in 2000, after Carnahan had died.
 
2014-08-06 01:09:50 PM  

abhorrent1: Okay. So apparently EVERYONE in AZ is retarded


Are you under the impression that these sorts of ballot laws are outliers?
 
2014-08-06 01:10:35 PM  

sdd2000: Hey, John Ashcroft lost his senate seat to a dead guy.


What ever happened to him? Is he having suck Koch brother cock now?
 
2014-08-06 01:11:09 PM  
This is "no tolerance" level of stupid.

Well the law doesn't have any provisions about dying before the vote so it has to happen.


Arizona,  finding new ways to waste taxpayer money since 1912.
 
2014-08-06 01:11:16 PM  

Magorn: Ivo Shandor: Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]

Nope.  That's the REALLY farked up part:
Bennett said under state law "since the ballots have printed, there is no provision allowed for substituting someone else's name on there or allowing write-ins."


Did you miss the "have printed" part of your quote?
 
2014-08-06 01:13:09 PM  

bigdog1960: sdd2000: Hey, John Ashcroft lost his senate seat to a dead guy.

What ever happened to him? Is he having suck Koch brother cock now?


Lobbyist
One of his clients is the company formerly known as Blackwater
 
2014-08-06 01:14:32 PM  
http://www.azsos.gov/election/candidate/writein.htm

Can some of you retards be bothered with actually looking up write in as a before disparities a state. For farks sake some of you are intellectually lazy.
 
2014-08-06 01:14:44 PM  

revrendjim: He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.

    ___
+ 0.999
 
2014-08-06 01:15:24 PM  
So the dead guy riding a horse is going to win?

Voting for him is like beating a dead horse riding a man.  :D
 
2014-08-06 01:17:12 PM  

qorkfiend: Isn't this a thing in a lot of states?


I would say the majority of states have similar laws written in their constitutions .
Happened in Tennessee 10 or so years ago.  I don't recall if the deceased was running unopposed, but there was a big campaign to write-in his widow
 
2014-08-06 01:19:45 PM  
Mexico called.
They want a fence up ASAP to keep anyone from the loony bin known as Arizona out of their country.
 
2014-08-06 01:20:44 PM  

Boo_Guy: This is "no tolerance" level of stupid.

Well the law doesn't have any provisions about dying before the vote so it has to happen.


Arizona,  finding new ways to waste taxpayer money since 1912.


How is it a waste? Carrying on as if nothing's changed is the cheapest option, since they're not going to cancel the election, and printing up new ballots would cost more money.

Additionally, I don't think it's a very good idea for the state to be able to legally tamper with ballots by adding or removing names after the filing deadlines. Arizona's already got laws in place governing death while in office, and there's no reason to not use those.
 
2014-08-06 01:21:46 PM  
Voters elected Mel Carnahan, although dead, by a narrow margin. No one had ever posthumously won election to the Senate ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Missou ri ,_2000

See how well it worked for us?  \ -_- /
 
2014-08-06 01:26:15 PM  

bdub77: revrendjim: He was running unopposed. Now he's running decomposed.

+1.


yyyyeeaaaaahhhhh!!!
 
2014-08-06 01:27:16 PM  

Magorn: Ivo Shandor: Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]

Nope.  That's the REALLY farked up part:
Bennett said under state law "since the ballots have printed, there is no provision allowed for substituting someone else's name on there or allowing write-ins."


Most states don't allow write-in candidates these days, since it was too easy for an unheard-of candidate to win an election. In other words, election fraud. And how are you going to have write-in candidates with electronic voting? It isn't practical and make election fraud even more likely.
 
2014-08-06 01:27:30 PM  
Yeah, in the primary election, for which early ballots have already been distributed.  By the time the general election rolls around they will have found a real live idiot to take his place.

To the "I always vote for the Republican no matter what" crowd, does it even matter?
 
2014-08-06 01:29:10 PM  
I wrote in Edward M. Kennedy in his replacement primary, thereby keeping a promise I had once made to myself to "vote for Ted until I'm dead." (at least for one election).
 
2014-08-06 01:33:09 PM  

JackieRabbit: Magorn: Ivo Shandor: Sounds like a great opportunity for a write-in candidate.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]

Nope.  That's the REALLY farked up part:
Bennett said under state law "since the ballots have printed, there is no provision allowed for substituting someone else's name on there or allowing write-ins."

Most states don't allow write-in candidates these days, since it was too easy for an unheard-of candidate to win an election. In other words, election fraud. And how are you going to have write-in candidates with electronic voting? It isn't practical and make election fraud even more likely.


Not having write-ins combined with any sort of restrictions on ballot access, seem to me to combine into an unconstitutional restriction on your right to vote for the candidate of your choice
 
2014-08-06 01:35:43 PM  
Dead people on the ballot happens every election or two. In the thousands of races in the US (at all levels of government) and with politicians tending to be older, it isn't a surprise that a few die during a campaign after the balance is finalized.
 
2014-08-06 01:36:11 PM  
That's one rep who can acurrately represent his constituents
 
2014-08-06 01:37:00 PM  

qorkfiend: Boo_Guy: This is "no tolerance" level of stupid.

Well the law doesn't have any provisions about dying before the vote so it has to happen.


Arizona,  finding new ways to waste taxpayer money since 1912.

How is it a waste? Carrying on as if nothing's changed is the cheapest option, since they're not going to cancel the election, and printing up new ballots would cost more money.

Additionally, I don't think it's a very good idea for the state to be able to legally tamper with ballots by adding or removing names after the filing deadlines. Arizona's already got laws in place governing death while in office, and there's no reason to not use those.


It's a waste because the election is meaningless.   HE is on the ballot, he is running unopposed in an election that does not allow write is .  Therefore, as a logical certainty he must "win" the election.  and given that he cannot serve, that requires a replacement candidate be named by the local party to stand in the general.   So why not skip the farcical and meaningless balloting process and go straight to the naming of an alternate candidate?
 
2014-08-06 01:45:20 PM  

sdd2000: bigdog1960: sdd2000: Hey, John Ashcroft lost his senate seat to a dead guy.

What ever happened to him? Is he having suck Koch brother cock now?

Lobbyist
One of his clients is the company formerly known as Blackwater


It's shocking that his singing career never took off
 
2014-08-06 01:49:33 PM  

vudukungfu: Mexico called.
They want a fence up ASAP to keep anyone from the loony bin known as Arizona out of their country.


No, Mexico called and wants to send a few million more people into Arizona because no matter how bad it is, it's still better than Mexico.

/Which is sad because Mexico is/was an awesome place.
 
2014-08-06 01:51:48 PM  

Magorn: qorkfiend: Boo_Guy: This is "no tolerance" level of stupid.

Well the law doesn't have any provisions about dying before the vote so it has to happen.


Arizona,  finding new ways to waste taxpayer money since 1912.

How is it a waste? Carrying on as if nothing's changed is the cheapest option, since they're not going to cancel the election, and printing up new ballots would cost more money.

Additionally, I don't think it's a very good idea for the state to be able to legally tamper with ballots by adding or removing names after the filing deadlines. Arizona's already got laws in place governing death while in office, and there's no reason to not use those.

It's a waste because the election is meaningless.   HE is on the ballot, he is running unopposed in an election that does not allow write is .  Therefore, as a logical certainty he must "win" the election.  and given that he cannot serve, that requires a replacement candidate be named by the local party to stand in the general.   So why not skip the farcical and meaningless balloting process and go straight to the naming of an alternate candidate?


"The election is meaningless" was true before he died, and unless Arizona is wildly different than other states, there are more than this one race on the ballot. Even if it weren't, the candidate dying still doesn't change anything, because he would have still been the only name on the ballot if he was still alive.

I'm not too familiar with Arizona elections law, but I would guess that getting your name on the ballot requires some sort of filing or petition prior to some deadline. Why should someone who hasn't met the legal requirements be allowed on the ballot?
 
2014-08-06 01:57:57 PM  
Uhm, "riding a colt"?
 
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