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(Independent)   Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia, all hell's breaking loose because: A) Saudi government found to embrace terrorism. B) Saudi oil is well past its peak. C) They saw a woman's face on TV   (independent.co.uk) divider line 254
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2014-08-06 10:31:41 AM  
www.independent.co.uk

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2014-08-06 10:51:38 AM  
www.trigonman3.com
 
2014-08-06 11:02:46 AM  
It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.
 
2014-08-06 11:11:43 AM  
I'd hit that...


With a bunch of rocks. Stone the uncovered whore until she dies or we'll all burn in hell!
 
2014-08-06 11:20:28 AM  
She's very pretty.
I won't get into the barbaric ways women are treated over there because it pissed me off and I have a nice buzz goin on, but I think she is very pretty.
 
2014-08-06 11:25:52 AM  

raerae1980: She's very pretty.
I won't get into the barbaric ways women are treated over there because it pissed me off and I have a nice buzz goin on, but I think she is very pretty.


Damn where are you? It's not even noon on the east coast yet!
 
2014-08-06 11:30:55 AM  
www2.citypaper.com
 
2014-08-06 11:33:24 AM  

ginandbacon: It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.

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Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the USA.

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Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the city of Mecca in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly. For women that includes covering hair. It's not a big deal for most people. They'll have their controversies and discussions about what is appropriate, like most countries and communities do. And Fark will have its mandatory Troll Thread about it.
 
2014-08-06 11:40:09 AM  
And this is why Islam will always be ridiculed.  Sure all religions have their weirdness but few are as harshly enforced at Islam's rules.
 
2014-08-06 11:47:06 AM  
FTFA: Strict Islamic dress codes in Saudi Arabia require women to dress "modestly" - usually with headscarves, veils and full-length abayas.

I like how they toss this part out without any source attribution. People will believe it of course, because they'll believe anything about those strange "foreign" countries. Most women will wear headscarves, some will wear niqab (depending on the region), and lots of women wear abaya--because its just a farking dress, like everywhere else in the world. Regardless, its still creepy to fetishize about women's overclothing as it is their underclothing.
 
2014-08-06 11:52:41 AM  
Our allies.
 
2014-08-06 11:58:08 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: raerae1980: She's very pretty.
I won't get into the barbaric ways women are treated over there because it pissed me off and I have a nice buzz goin on, but I think she is very pretty.

Damn where are you? It's not even noon on the east coast yet!


Lol, I'm at home. Its my day off!!!!


/wakey bakey B-)
 
2014-08-06 11:58:19 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Our allies.


Yeah because what we need right now is yet another Middle Eastern country breaking down into a civil war. Saudi Arabia might be slow as f*ck in coming into the modern world but...one thing at a time.
 
2014-08-06 11:58:33 AM  
Well, the good news is that at least she's allowed to drive home in her own car with her own driver's license without awaiting permission of a male relative, right?
 
2014-08-06 12:03:26 PM  

jchic: And this is why Islam will always be ridiculed.  Sure all religions have their weirdness but few are as harshly enforced at Islam's rules.


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Yup. Those crazy 2 Billion Muslims. Always wearing shirts and pants and dresses. Sometimes even sports tees. But please, tell us all you know about worldwide Islamic culture.
 
2014-08-06 12:05:30 PM  
If you don't abaya the rules, you must suffer the consequences.
 
2014-08-06 12:06:27 PM  

Somacandra: jchic: And this is why Islam will always be ridiculed.  Sure all religions have their weirdness but few are as harshly enforced at Islam's rules.

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Yup. Those crazy 2 Billion Muslims. Always wearing shirts and pants and dresses. Sometimes even sports tees. But please, tell us all you know about worldwide Islamic culture.


muslim-academy.com

Maybe it was cold.
 
2014-08-06 12:12:26 PM  

Chris Ween: Well, the good news is that at least she's allowed to drive home in her own car with her own driver's license without awaiting permission of a male relative, right?


I'm sure it's all by choice.
 
2014-08-06 01:12:26 PM  

Chris Ween: Well, the good news is that at least she's allowed to drive home in her own car with her own driver's license without awaiting permission of a male relative, right?


Assuming she's still in London, most definitely
 
2014-08-06 02:08:10 PM  

Somacandra: ginandbacon: It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.

[i.imgur.com image 132x159]

Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the USA.

[i.imgur.com image 461x301]

Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the city of Mecca in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly. For women that includes covering hair. It's not a big deal for most people. They'll have their controversies and discussions about what is appropriate, like most countries and communities do. And Fark will have its mandatory Troll Thread about it.


It would be less annoying if we also ridiculed orthodox Jews and Mennonites and the Amish and hell, even the Tuareg--but that's for men so it's okay, right?

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2014-08-06 02:09:32 PM  
No matter how much some of you defend Islamic Traditions, those societies embracing it are predominately parochial -- meaning the guys have all the power.

While the majority of the worlds predominate religions have progressed over the centuries to accommodate changing times, many Muslims fight to keep ancient traditions -- even killing those who resist.

You'll find 'Honor Killings' -- where a family member will slaughter usually a daughter who decides to break away and the local cops don't bother pressing charges. Stoning is still a widely accepted form of death for a traditional violation -- meaning the person is bound hand and foot, buried in the dirt up above the waist so he/she can't defend themselves in any way and a group of fine, upstanding citizens pelt them with rocks until they die.

Not an easy way to go. Execution by firing squad would be more merciful.

Had we maintained the strict religious laws of Christianity from ancient times, we would not be in space, millions would die yearly from easily cured diseases, you would not have a cell phone, a PC or even a good grasp of the universe. Hospitals would close on Holy Days. You could be arrested for cutting your grass on a Sunday or cooking a meal.

Bars would be closed on Sunday. So would every other store. Religious Law would be basically inflexible, with National Laws being over ridden. Your right to a fair trial would be compromised.

You would be required to read the Bible from cover to cover and have one or more in your home. Lampooning a religious Icon could get you 50 lashes, imprisoned or executed. (Right, SouthPark?)

Your freedom of expression would be heavily restricted. Your access to any reading material would be restricted. Attempts to intellectually understand the meaning of your God would have to be approved by a religious tribunal, or you could be executed or imprisoned for heresy.
We would not have the rich heritage and contributions from people of other religions for they would not be allowed to live here and spreading their beliefs could mean they get executed -- along with any converts.

Questioning your religious leaders over traditional beliefs could get you in trouble and imprisoned or even banned. In extreme cases, killed.

Death sentences by religious tribunal tend to be brutal -- as a warning to anyone else who might consider challenging the religious authority. You might note that in Muslim nations, the firing squad is rarely used, the electric chair not used at all, lethal injection banned and even the painful but often swift gas chamber is forbidden.

Hanging, beheading, stoning are not. A swift execution device like the Guillotine is not used either: the head is usually removed by sword -- which can take more than one blow, or knife -- where the condemned is heavily drugged and the head removed by basically hacking away at the neck.
In the latter, only after dissecting the tissues nearly down to the spine, are the arteries cut and the condemned left to bleed out in the dirt. Afterwards, the head is detached.

Slaughtering a pig is actually more merciful.

I don't recall any of the Gods in the major religions demanding that offenders be killed in the most painful way possible. Believers kind of added that part.

Which would reach its' peak in the Spanish Inquisition.

National laws taking precedence over religious ones, in most nations, ended the brutal punishment reserved for those who did not believe in the right way.
 
2014-08-06 02:10:28 PM  

Somacandra: In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly.


And having a dress code based on the wishes of your imaginary friend is sane and rational how?
 
2014-08-06 02:10:30 PM  
To be more specific, they are upset because this is a muslim woman.  TV in Saudi Arabia pretty routinely broadcasts Western shows without any issue.
 
2014-08-06 02:11:28 PM  
To be fair, they had seen her face before, just this time she didn't wear a head scarf.


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Bonus, she's sorta good lookin.
 
2014-08-06 02:12:21 PM  
A nation of immature assholes worshiping an asshole.
 
2014-08-06 02:12:50 PM  
yep, social conservatism FTL... fiscal conservatism FTL too but that's for another thread
 
2014-08-06 02:13:33 PM  
We need to get some 4chan hackers to take over their state TV channel and replace it with Penthouse TV.
 
2014-08-06 02:14:08 PM  
so when she is beheaded all is good???

/and i thought catholic school was tough if you didn't obey the rules...
 
2014-08-06 02:14:38 PM  

ginandbacon: It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.


Oh well. That's completely different then. Outrage retracted.
 
2014-08-06 02:17:04 PM  
As a culture, the men who control that country need to just admit their collective latent homosexuality and take some Richard in the pooper.  They would all be a LOT happier.....
 
2014-08-06 02:17:30 PM  
It's not really the head coverings that are bothersome, it's that they are a symbol of the oppression of women in those countries.
 
2014-08-06 02:17:39 PM  
Oh my goodness, you can see her mouth! She could spit ping pong balls out of it!
 
2014-08-06 02:17:59 PM  
Somacandra:

Yup. Those crazy 2 Billion Muslims. Always wearing shirts and pants and dresses. Sometimes even sports tees. But please, tell us all you know about worldwide Islamic culture.


You sound Mooslim
 
2014-08-06 02:18:00 PM  
Without reading the thread, let me guess what it will contain.

1) Liberals saying how ridiculous and awful it is that Saudi society treats women so horribly.
2) Conservatives saying how ridiculous and awful it is that Saudi society treats women so horribly.
3) Those same Conservatives accusing those same Liberals of defending the horrible treatment of women in Saudi society, with copious mention of honor killing and genital mutilation, the pedophilia of Mohammed, how all of Europe is on the brink of becoming a Muslim dictatorship, and how the Libs want the Caliphate to come and Destroy Us All.
 
2014-08-06 02:18:10 PM  
Women have come a long way. They can vote now (since 1975 in switzerland) and can sit in federal juries (also since the 70's in the USA, not allowed to before).

According to 16/17th century British (and continental USA law), married women were property of the husbands. So, big arguments and fights back then about voting rights for married vs. unmarried men, since married could potentially mean 2 votes, one for the man and one via the property (i.e. wife). By the way, this is no exageration.

English jurist William Blackstone famously put it in his Commentaries on English Law (1765-1769):
By marriage, the husband and wife are one person in the law: that is, the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of the husband: under whose wing, protection, and cover, she performs every thing. (Coverture)
 
2014-08-06 02:19:01 PM  

ginandbacon: Somacandra: ginandbacon: It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.

[i.imgur.com image 132x159]

Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the USA.

[i.imgur.com image 461x301]

Dr. Fidelma O'Leary in the city of Mecca in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly. For women that includes covering hair. It's not a big deal for most people. They'll have their controversies and discussions about what is appropriate, like most countries and communities do. And Fark will have its mandatory Troll Thread about it.

It would be less annoying if we also ridiculed orthodox Jews and Mennonites and the Amish and hell, even the Tuareg--but that's for men so it's okay, right?

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Where do you live that orthodox Jews, Mennonites, Amish, and hell, even the Tuareg regularly gather together and aren't ridiculed?

/sorry but all of those sects you mentioned get ridiculed ALL THE TIME.
 
2014-08-06 02:19:16 PM  

James Rieper: To be more specific, they are upset because this is a muslim woman.  TV in Saudi Arabia pretty routinely broadcasts Western shows without any issue.


From my experience in the UAE - they basically view Non-Muslim Westerners as degenerates and frankly don't expect much from us, but Muslim Expats (British, American, etc) often find themselves held to much stricter social standards than their Expat peers.
 
2014-08-06 02:19:45 PM  

Kali-Yuga: Somacandra: In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly.

And having a dress code based on the wishes of your imaginary friend is sane and rational how?


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Dress code? Check. Imaginary friend? Check. Woooohoooo!! I don't have to wear pants!!!
 
2014-08-06 02:19:49 PM  

Kali-Yuga: Somacandra: In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly.

And having a dress code based on the wishes of your imaginary friend is sane and rational how?


Well, they are Muslims.  So, that makes it okay.   Remember, the US is the most theocratic nation on the face of the planet.   Making fun of Muslims makes you a racist meany, or something.
 
2014-08-06 02:21:59 PM  

ginandbacon: It wasn't her face you culturally illiterate and just plain illiterate farkwad. She wasn't covering her hair. And it just sparked debate.


I was gonna say that. Also, they get all the other Arab satellite channels, from Qatar and Dubai and whatnot, and the news bunnies on most of those channels don't wear headscarfs. And they are third-degree-burn-inducing hot.

/My favorite stupid-desert-religion woman's hair dealie is how orthodox Jewish women hide their lust-inspiring hair under wigs, made from human hair.
 
2014-08-06 02:22:24 PM  

Banned on the Run: Somacandra:

Yup. Those crazy 2 Billion Muslims. Always wearing shirts and pants and dresses. Sometimes even sports tees. But please, tell us all you know about worldwide Islamic culture.


You sound Mooslim


A Møøslim once bit my sister... No realli!
 
2014-08-06 02:22:36 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Without reading the thread, let me guess what it will contain.

1) Liberals saying how ridiculous and awful it is that Saudi society treats women so horribly.
2) Conservatives saying how ridiculous and awful it is that Saudi society treats women so horribly.
3) Those same Conservatives accusing those same Liberals of defending the horrible treatment of women in Saudi society, with copious mention of honor killing and genital mutilation, the pedophilia of Mohammed, how all of Europe is on the brink of becoming a Muslim dictatorship, and how the Libs want the Caliphate to come and Destroy Us All.


Yeah, that's basically it. But maybe add something about how MANY of the world's problems would be solved if people would get over the silly notion that an invisible power in the sky will judge them and send them to a non-existent realm of horror if they step out of line. Because that's really what's at the root of all this, right?
 
2014-08-06 02:22:59 PM  
Somacandra:
In Saudi Arabia all persons of any gender are required to dress modestly. For women that includes covering hair. It's not a big deal for most people. They'll have their controversies and discussions about what is appropriate, like most countries and communities do. And Fark will have its mandatory Troll Thread about it.

LOL you're funny. That's why I see guys walking around shirtless (or less) in Saudi Arabia and I don't see one person complain there. But a woman doesn't wear a heed covering and all Hell breaks loose.

Do you also support Saudi firefighters letting school girls burn to death because the religious police said "it is a sinful to approach them" and save them?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm
 
2014-08-06 02:23:10 PM  
Oh Fark them. I'd love for them to be exposed to all the bare arms and cleavage on CNN and Fox, as opposed to this lady in a black suit jacket buttoned all the way up. It seems the women on Fox (you know, the generic blond that sits between the two dorks on the morning show) always seem to dress in the sluttiest, shortest, bare it all party dresses. The women on CNN are constantly showing arms and cleavage, but I do like their style better. Except for Michaela Pererra - that woman is a cow and I'm amazed that she tries to wear the same figure hugging dresses the other women do.
 
2014-08-06 02:23:15 PM  
Jeebus, who was producing her newscast, the Bang Bros?
 
2014-08-06 02:23:32 PM  

Rik01: Had we maintained the strict religious laws of Christianity from ancient times, we would not be in space, millions would die yearly from easily cured diseases, you would not have a cell phone, a PC or even a good grasp of the universe.



Yup. And it would be Christianity's fault, too.

j-walkblog.com

/trolls trolling trolls
 
2014-08-06 02:23:43 PM  

raerae1980: She's very pretty.


She was until she started talking.  That language is just brutal to listen to.
 
2014-08-06 02:24:08 PM  
That is one pretty news-reader, and I like her jacket.
 
2014-08-06 02:24:09 PM  

Banned on the Run: You sound Mooslim



He's just a professional apologist, it's sort of like being an expert on Tolkien books, but as far as I know The Lord of the Rings has never inspired genocide and bigotry.
 
2014-08-06 02:24:47 PM  

fireclown: To be fair, they had seen her face before, just this time she didn't wear a head scarf.




Bonus, she's sorta good lookin.


She's gotta trim those Jennifer Connelly eyebrows.

But yeah, I'd bang her.

Preferably with her wearing a burqa, for shiats and giggles.
 
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