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(Yahoo)   Egypt to build new Suez Canal parallel to old one. Old one to be moved to museum   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2014-08-05 09:32:23 PM  
The project, to be run by the army, is a major step by new President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to stimulate Egypt's struggling economy

Economic stimulus?? Not only are they Muslims now they're communists!
 
2014-08-05 10:22:40 PM  
I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?
 
2014-08-05 10:24:26 PM  
Seems like a waste of money. If they wait a million years or so, plate tectonics will do it for them.
 
2014-08-05 10:34:13 PM  

bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?


So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.
 
2014-08-05 10:35:02 PM  
That reminded me of the old saying, "A man a plan a canal Suez"
or i guess it would be
"Zeus la na canal Suez." which almost makes sense too.

/drunk, give me some leeway
//Zeus backwards is Suez.  That blows my mind man
 
2014-08-05 10:35:38 PM  

fusillade762: The project, to be run by the army, is a major step by new President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to stimulate Egypt's struggling economy

Economic stimulus?? Not only are they Muslims now they're communists!


You do know who built the dam on the Nile, right?
 
2014-08-05 10:37:46 PM  
This project is the perfect excuse to line the pockets of key government supporters.  Coups followed by state-led development projects always seem to work out that way.  I bet it goes well over $4 billion, employs fewer workers than expected, and that at least $1 billion disappears due to corruption.
 
2014-08-05 10:38:30 PM  
Good.

But they are digging in the wrong place.
 
2014-08-05 10:40:55 PM  
Before Suez
img.fark.net
also my desktop
 
2014-08-05 10:43:43 PM  

Caffeine Induced Diarrhea: Good.

But they are digging in the wrong place.


i.ytimg.com
Bad dates.
 
2014-08-05 10:44:29 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.


Basically this.  It's a shipping bottleneck, some vessels wait ages for their slot to get through, but even that is still faster than going all the farking way around Africa.  On top of that, ships have grown a bit in size in the last century and a half, the largest tankers and container ships can't make it through either the Suez or Panama canals.  To add to the problem, this has to be a long term engineering project.  It's not like they can just shut down the canal while they make it bigger and deeper.

The two lane highway example is actually a good one.  I-40 parallels a good stretch of old Rte 66, they didn't close the old road while building the new one.
 
2014-08-05 10:45:31 PM  
Caffeine Induced Diarrhea:

And FYI, I get your username.
....
....
No.  I mean I GET your username.
 
2014-08-05 10:45:41 PM  
Like the new Nicaraguan Panama Canal?
 
2014-08-05 10:46:29 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.


That's precisely what I said!!   *snort*

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.

Huh.
 
2014-08-05 10:47:42 PM  
As well it should be subby! It belongs there!
 
2014-08-05 10:48:02 PM  
What if AGW is a long game conspiracy to open up shipping channels?
 
2014-08-05 10:54:19 PM  

fusillade762: The project, to be run by the army, is a major step by new President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to stimulate Egypt's struggling economy

Economic stimulus?? Not only are they Muslims now they're communists!


Egypt was always kinda Socialist.
 
2014-08-05 10:59:22 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: As well it should be subby! It belongs there!


We've got a London Bridge!  They'd go good together.
 
2014-08-05 11:02:46 PM  
Well that 2016 date precludes the twin canals appearing in Sharknado 3.
 
2014-08-05 11:08:56 PM  

tarheel07: Like the new Nicaraguan Panama Canal?


Aren't the Chinese in on that?
 
2014-08-05 11:13:47 PM  

DrunkWithImpotence: I-40 parallels a good stretch of old Rte 66,


I don't understand why people don't credit I-40 with the same romance. Though the signs at the end (Wilmington: 2554) and (Barstow: 2554) keep getting stolen.

C'mon, what's route 66 got that a massive interstate highway through the heart of America ain't got?

\Was kinda shocked when I learned how iconic our green and white interstate signs are to people from other countries.
 
2014-08-05 11:18:24 PM  

BigLuca: Caffeine Induced Diarrhea:

And FYI, I get your username.
....
....
No.  I mean I GET your username.


comebackkid.com.au
 
2014-08-05 11:19:42 PM  
Not only are they Muslims now they're communists!

Uhm, you're about a year behind in your reading. The Army is back in charge in Egypt.

The project, to be run by the army, is a major step by new President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to stimulate Egypt's struggling economy and recalled some of the grand national programmes of one of Sisi's predecessors, army strongman Gamal Abdel Nasser.

Sisi, a former army chief, took power last year after ousting elected Islamist President Mohamed Mursi and has since overseen a massive crackdown on Mursi's Muslim Brotherhood.

 
2014-08-05 11:24:14 PM  
You do know who built the dam on the Nile, right?

Cleopatra?
 
2014-08-05 11:24:34 PM  

BigLuca: That reminded me of the old saying, "A man a plan a canal Suez"
or i guess it would be


"A man, a plan, a canal, Panama".

The point is that it's a palindrome.

abbamouse: This project is the perfect excuse to line the pockets of key government supporters. Coups followed by state-led development projects always seem to work out that way. I bet it goes well over $4 billion, employs fewer workers than expected, and that at least $1 billion disappears due to corruption.


Of course.
 
2014-08-05 11:49:26 PM  

Loren: BigLuca: That reminded me of the old saying, "A man a plan a canal Suez"
or i guess it would be

"A man, a plan, a canal, Panama".

The point is that it's a palindrome.

Oh i didn't realize that. butt i don't follow politics much, especially Sarah Palin, but thanks for the info.

 
2014-08-05 11:51:26 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.


New bookmark. Thank you very much.
 
2014-08-05 11:55:57 PM  
what is the difference between Nancy Pelosi and the Suez Canal?


the Suez Canal is one busy ditch
 
2014-08-06 12:02:36 AM  

bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?


the old ditch is single laned, with two passing sections
two northbound convoys pass each day and one southbound convoy.
the southbound convoy sits and waits twice each day. waiting for the north bound to pass.

In theory, the additional stretches would allow more ships in the convoys or allow additional convoys in one or both directions ( 1 additional in each direction ).

so a 50% increase in northbound traffic and 100% increase in south bound traffic (southbound is mostly empty ships going back to get more loots from the east)


abbamouse: This project is the perfect excuse to line the pockets of key government supporters.  Coups followed by state-led development projects always seem to work out that way.  I bet it goes well over $4 billion, employs fewer workers than expected, and that at least $1 billion disappears due to corruption.


yup
but things do get built ... which is better than nothing
 
2014-08-06 12:04:02 AM  

jsmilky: what is the difference between Nancy Pelosi and the Suez Canal?


the Suez Canal is one busy ditch


see ... palin or bachmann would have worked ... see, they are MORONS ...
but you just dont like Pelosi, rather than she is a MORON ....

sigh try again

/still made me chuckle
 
2014-08-06 12:29:48 AM  

DrunkWithImpotence: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.

Basically this.  It's a shipping bottleneck, some vessels wait ages for their slot to get through, but even that is still faster than going all the farking way around Africa.  On top of that, ships have grown a bit in size in the last century and a half, the largest tankers and container ships can't make it through either the Suez or Panama canals.  To add to the problem, this has to be a long term engineering project.  It's not like they can just shut down the canal while they make it bigger and deeper.

The two lane highway example is actually a good one.  I-40 parallels a good stretch of old Rte 66, they didn't close the old road while building the new one.


Didn't they just manufacture the Interstates off-site and then unload them from trucks? Can't they do that with the new canal?

/I hope they don't try to ship it, cuz those ships will have to wait for the new canal in order to fit.
 
2014-08-06 12:34:56 AM  
I'd visit that museum.
 
2014-08-06 12:35:36 AM  

bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?


It's too narrow for the biggest container ships.
 
2014-08-06 12:37:21 AM  

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2014-08-06 12:39:07 AM  

BitwiseShift: Well that 2016 date precludes the twin canals appearing in Sharknado 3.


As long as Tara Reid doesnt die i think they can keep dumping that movie out once a year. Heck maybe even work the construction of it into a movie.
 
2014-08-06 12:43:29 AM  

Bucky Katt: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

It's too narrow for the biggest container ships.


Ah..
 
2014-08-06 12:55:59 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.


I think the inland traffic on that map is more interesting than the open-water traffic.  I grew up about halfway between the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers, but I never realized just how much of the Eastern US is open to shipping traffic.
 
2014-08-06 02:50:21 AM  

Bucky Katt: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

It's too narrow for the biggest container ships.


Seems silly to build ships so big that they can't fit through such an important waterway.
 
2014-08-06 03:00:12 AM  
The real reason is to facilitate passage of 200 million soldiers...
 
2014-08-06 03:15:55 AM  
If history is any judge, it'll be a museum in England.
 
2014-08-06 03:35:17 AM  

whither_apophis: tarheel07: Like the new Nicaraguan Panama Canal?

Aren't the Chinese in on that?



It's like the Nicaragua Canal, except the new Suez canal would cost 1.3% of the host country's GDP rather than 400%; will be far shorter and more feasible from an engineering standpoint; won't have an established foreign competitor a several hundred miles away already capable of serving most of the same traffic and of engaging in aggressive price wars; won't have demand for its use significantly decreased by recession of Arctic ice that's shaving up to a couple of weeks off of northern shipping routes; won't have its rights owned by a company that, per contract, doesn't even have to actually build it, but can instead choose to engage in other related commercial ventures tax-free while also preventing anyone else from coming in and building it; and will actually be built.
 
2014-08-06 08:11:32 AM  
Did aliens or giants build the first canal?
 
2014-08-06 08:50:55 AM  
Already has the original.

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-08-06 12:42:59 PM  
Slave wages for all!
 
2014-08-06 01:12:56 PM  

HiFiGuy: DrunkWithImpotence: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: bunner: I am not a civil engineer, but isn't the old ditch with water in it still working?

So they never should have built interstate highways over existing two-lane roads? After all, they still worked.

/Snark aside, here's the answer to your question.

Basically this.  It's a shipping bottleneck, some vessels wait ages for their slot to get through, but even that is still faster than going all the farking way around Africa.  On top of that, ships have grown a bit in size in the last century and a half, the largest tankers and container ships can't make it through either the Suez or Panama canals.  To add to the problem, this has to be a long term engineering project.  It's not like they can just shut down the canal while they make it bigger and deeper.

The two lane highway example is actually a good one.  I-40 parallels a good stretch of old Rte 66, they didn't close the old road while building the new one.

Didn't they just manufacture the Interstates off-site and then unload them from trucks? Can't they do that with the new canal?

/I hope they don't try to ship it, cuz those ships will have to wait for the new canal in order to fit.


CSB: We went through the Panama Canal earlier this year. The large "structure" in this picture is one of the rolling lock gates for the canal expansion project. They were fabricated in Italy and shipped to Panama on specially designed ships, unloaded at docks specifically built for their delivery. There are four gates per lock, and they go from about 2300 tons to 3900 tons apiece.

img.fark.net

Here's a press release on the delivery of another set of gates.
 
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