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(USA Today)   A government website intended to make federal spending more transparent is very good at its job; $619 billion dollars has turned 'transparent'   (usatoday.com ) divider line 78
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2014-08-05 08:06:10 PM  
not compatible, but if you give us 10% increase in our budget, we'll get right on that
 
2014-08-05 08:13:02 PM  
The ironic and obvious tags must be getting drunk somewhere
 
2014-08-05 09:04:21 PM  
I say we should do away with the whole thing and go back to the way it was. Blissful ignorance is blissful.
 
2014-08-05 09:38:33 PM  
I'm sure its shrink-wrapped on a pallet somewhere.
 
2014-08-05 10:24:04 PM  
we are all just fighting for crumbs, while a few fat cats laugh it up at the top.
 
2014-08-05 10:25:59 PM  
Anyone look for it over there at Haliburton?
 
2014-08-05 10:51:57 PM  
I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.
 
2014-08-05 11:00:04 PM  
Where the $619 million went? It's a Mysterio.

/WILL YOU STOP?
 
2014-08-05 11:11:42 PM  
application.denofgeek.com
 
2014-08-05 11:46:38 PM  
Its very Lovecraftian: just knowing makes want to kill a politician
 
2014-08-05 11:47:19 PM  
This is the Crystal Pepsi of government programs.
 
2014-08-05 11:49:04 PM  
This is how you fund black ops and development programs. $200 for a wrench? No, $5 for a wrench and $195 for whatever drone shuttle the Air Force has haf in orbit for the last year.

/hang on, someone's at the door
 
2014-08-05 11:49:47 PM  

mutterfark: [application.denofgeek.com image 480x270]


I'll see your conspiracy theory and raise.

www.fantastic-plastic.com
 
2014-08-05 11:50:39 PM  
That's one hell of another toilet seat the federal government had to buy.

I'm so glad the budget is well balanced while the remaining middle class is taxed into poverty.
 
2014-08-05 11:51:14 PM  

pchouky: I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.


I've not heard of this outrage.  Am I correct to assume it has something to do with right-wing outrage du-jour about money being wasted on "mating habits of some stupid fruit flies?"  If so, GOD F*CKING DAMNIT SO F*CKING HARD.

And for all you herpa-derpers:  Drosophila (common fruit fly) is one of the most significant species for genetic studies.  You could fill 53' semi trailers with peer-reviewed articles about findings based on studies of this species.  Your life has been positively impacted by technologies spawned from these studies, in many ways... Medicine being the most obvious.  So when you take your fatty-be-gone pills, or your why-won't-you-get-hard pills, or your diabeeeeetus pills, or your heart disease pills, or whatever, be thankful that people way smarter than you funded and conducted these studies, because you'd probably be dead had they not done so.
 
2014-08-05 11:55:36 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: pchouky: I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.

I've not heard of this outrage.  Am I correct to assume it has something to do with right-wing outrage du-jour about money being wasted on "mating habits of some stupid fruit flies?"  If so, GOD F*CKING DAMNIT SO F*CKING HARD.

And for all you herpa-derpers:  Drosophila (common fruit fly) is one of the most significant species for genetic studies.  You could fill 53' semi trailers with peer-reviewed articles about findings based on studies of this species.  Your life has been positively impacted by technologies spawned from these studies, in many ways... Medicine being the most obvious.  So when you take your fatty-be-gone pills, or your why-won't-you-get-hard pills, or your diabeeeeetus pills, or your heart disease pills, or whatever, be thankful that people way smarter than you funded and conducted these studies, because you'd probably be dead had they not done so.


Get over yourself already, you need a boost or a ladder?
 
2014-08-05 11:58:02 PM  
Our job as citizens is not to concern ourselves over where our taxes are going, only to pay them.
 
2014-08-06 12:02:43 AM  
Let me show you my shocked face:

hairstyles.thehairstyler.com
 
2014-08-06 12:03:39 AM  
Dear America.

Your captains of industry are blatant thieves, pirates and confidence men.

Your political leaders, bureaucrats and civil servants are chiseling grifters who line their pockets with your hard earned money.

And they're running out of stuff to steal.  "At least it's not Somalia" isn't gonna carry much water, pretty soon.  Strap in, kidz.
 
2014-08-06 12:05:04 AM  
I hope that was a really important 619 billion dollars. That's a pretty tall opportunity cost to just not be accounted for.
 
2014-08-06 12:06:35 AM  
• The Department of Health and Human Services failed to report nearly $544 billion, mostly in direct assistance programs like Medicare.

Medicare: The usual age of eligibility for those benefits is 65

"Corporations are people, my friend,"


How many corporations in the U.S. are 65 or older?
 
2014-08-06 12:15:40 AM  

Dinki: I say we should do away with the whole thing and go back to the way it was. Blissful ignorance is blissful.


fusillade762: I'm sure its shrink-wrapped on a pallet somewhere.


some_beer_drinker: we are all just fighting for crumbs, while a few fat cats laugh it up at the top.


basemetal: Anyone look for it over there at Haliburton?


GoldSpider: Our job as citizens is not to concern ourselves over where our taxes are going, only to pay them.


jtown: Let me show you my shocked face:

[hairstyles.thehairstyler.com image 500x600]


USA! USA! USA!
 
2014-08-06 12:19:02 AM  

bunner: Dear America.

Your captains of industry are blatant thieves, pirates and confidence men.

Your political leaders, bureaucrats and civil servants are chiseling grifters who line their pockets with your hard earned money.

And they're running out of stuff to steal.  "At least it's not Somalia" isn't gonna carry much water, pretty soon.  Strap in, kidz.


Strap up more like it. Between the semi-auto rifles, 12 gauge semi-auto shot guns, 30/30, 30.06, multiple handgun calibers and a grocery store with basic chemistry knowledge, I think some of the populace is ready to party 1776 style.

A spark merely needs to start the fire.
 
2014-08-06 12:22:12 AM  
We spend billions trying to install "freedom" in oil producing countries so that they continue to trade oil in USD.  This is because we print it like designer bumrag and thusly, we get free oil.  And they just keep spitting these bad IOUs out of a confetti cannon and smiling and winking and saying "Oh, don't worry.  We're good for it" while the oligarchy of corporate interests uses these cheeseburger wrappers to leverage actual wealth into their ledgers and keep it there, leaving the economy to try and get by on toaster leavin's.  And the jig is just about up.  Don't worry, though.  They've already got most of the actual wealth producing infrastructure offshored to where labor costs are rice and running water.  Our duty as patriots is to just keep buying whatever they import back from these sweat shops with whatever is under the sofa cushions.  Not that funny, is it?
 
2014-08-06 12:24:47 AM  

Abaddon The Despoiler: A spark merely needs to start the fire.


They sho nuff workin' on that.  That way, they can let the other shoe drop, load up the Gulfstreams and f*ck off with the whole tent and table, citing "an inhospitable and unstable business climate."  We don't really think we're some sacrosanct square on the chessboard, do we?
 
2014-08-06 12:28:29 AM  

bunner: We spend billions trying to install "freedom" in oil producing countries so that they continue to trade oil in USD.  This is because we print it like designer bumrag and thusly, we get free oil.  And they just keep spitting these bad IOUs out of a confetti cannon and smiling and winking and saying "Oh, don't worry.  We're good for it" while the oligarchy of corporate interests uses these cheeseburger wrappers to leverage actual wealth into their ledgers and keep it there, leaving the economy to try and get by on toaster leavin's.  And the jig is just about up.  Don't worry, though.  They've already got most of the actual wealth producing infrastructure offshored to where labor costs are rice and running water.  Our duty as patriots is to just keep buying whatever they import back from these sweat shops with whatever is under the sofa cushions.  Not that funny, is it?


Fiat currency and the end result of Woodrow Wilson's betrayal and destruction of America with the Federal Reserve Act isn't that funny at all.

What the populace is going to do to the bankers and traitor politicians when it hits the fan, that's going to be hilarious.
 
2014-08-06 12:29:26 AM  
This isn't a series of unnerving events.  This isn't an anomaly.  These aren't little bubbles popping in the ineffable and unknowable cauldron of Econnomyckes™.  This is a business plan.  And an old and large one.  And this is the closeout sale.
 
2014-08-06 12:29:56 AM  
So a recently introduced website promoting transparency in government is not getting full compliance from government agencies in reporting? It'll probably take a little time. I wish it was a different but it's probably akin to a u-turn in a cargo ship.
 
2014-08-06 12:33:16 AM  

Abaddon The Despoiler: Fiat currency and the end result of Woodrow Wilson's betrayal and destruction of America with the Federal Reserve Act isn't that funny at all.


Jefferson warned them.  He tried.  And in plain English.  And they finally got their foot in the door in 1913.  And, oddly, in 1914, some Lord High Somesuchshytte got his ass greased and a world war started.  Oh, the freshly printed notes that danced around the mayhem that ensued.  It's been pretty much rinse repeat until the post war boom ushered in consumer culture and more, better, faster every year drove the economy from 57 to 65.  Then the serfs got uppity so we stopped making stuff here.  Not funny, indeed.
 
2014-08-06 12:39:08 AM  
Most transparent administration in history.™
 
2014-08-06 12:39:38 AM  
Sorry, '47 to '65.
 
2014-08-06 12:40:20 AM  
That's like around $1971.00 for every person in America.
 
2014-08-06 12:40:47 AM  

zepher: Most transparent administration in history.™


It doesn't matter who is or isn't president, it hasn't for decades, it never will, again, and all of this partisan venom spewing is one of the reasons the crap they're pulling works so well.
 
2014-08-06 12:50:08 AM  

bunner: Dear America.

Your captains of industry are blatant thieves, pirates and confidence men.

Your political leaders, bureaucrats and civil servants are chiseling grifters who line their pockets with your hard earned money.

And they're running out of stuff to steal.  "At least it's not Somalia" isn't gonna carry much water, pretty soon.  Strap in, kidz.


A cell phone, color tv, internet and food stamps will calm them longer than anyone can imagine.

The soviets made it 70 years on cheap vodka alone.

Never underestimate what people are willing to settle for.
 
2014-08-06 12:50:16 AM  
The IRS wants details about me and my biz? Fark, I put them all up in the systems went whar's? Somehow I don't think that'll work for me, Joe Shmoe...
 
2014-08-06 12:53:38 AM  
I never realized that I would be expected to finance my own "trickle down."

Your equity...it's all in debt.

Mine too.


We've been had.
 
2014-08-06 12:54:33 AM  
I have this same problem.  Twenty two percent of my money just seems to vanish without a trace from my accounts every month as well.  Always happens on a Friday night too, which is weird.  Every Saturday morning is the same thing, missing money, and mysterious piles of empty beer bottles.
 
2014-08-06 01:17:33 AM  

farkin_Gary: I never realized that I would be expected to finance my own "trickle down."

Your equity...it's all in debt.

Mine too.


We've been had.


assets.sbnation.com

                             T  H  I  S  .
 
2014-08-06 01:51:09 AM  
And reasons like this is why I cringe when someone argues that the government needs more tax revenue for things like "roads and bridges" or "welfare". Its not that those things don't need money, but the assclowns in office just pay lip service to those ideas while lining their pockets and the pockets of those that got them elected. Fark all of them right in the ear.
/All of them
//right in their farking ears
 
2014-08-06 01:54:59 AM  

bunner: This isn't a series of unnerving events.  This isn't an anomaly.  These aren't little bubbles popping in the ineffable and unknowable cauldron of Econnomyckes™.  This is a business plan.  And an old and large one.  And this is the closeout sale.


bunner: Abaddon The Despoiler: Fiat currency and the end result of Woodrow Wilson's betrayal and destruction of America with the Federal Reserve Act isn't that funny at all.

Jefferson warned them.  He tried.  And in plain English.  And they finally got their foot in the door in 1913.  And, oddly, in 1914, some Lord High Somesuchshytte got his ass greased and a world war started.  Oh, the freshly printed notes that danced around the mayhem that ensued.  It's been pretty much rinse repeat until the post war boom ushered in consumer culture and more, better, faster every year drove the economy from 57 to 65.  Then the serfs got uppity so we stopped making stuff here.  Not funny, indeed.


bunner: zepher: Most transparent administration in history.™

It doesn't matter who is or isn't president, it hasn't for decades, it never will, again, and all of this partisan venom spewing is one of the reasons the crap they're pulling works so well.


This is why I have you favorited, bunner.

/it's also my nickname for my cat, Butters
//and yes, we're truly farked here in the USA.
 
2014-08-06 02:11:52 AM  

massfeud: The IRS wants details about me and my biz? Fark, I put them all up in the systems went whar's? Somehow I don't think that'll work for me, Joe Shmoe...


Actually, government gives waivers a lot for business compliance with IT mandates.  The whole reason the PPACA employer mandate was delayed was because accounting software packages weren't going to be ready to generate and submit the reports needed.  On the health IT front, they delayed ICD-10 for much the same reason (a significant number of stragglers not ready to make the switch), and they have 'hardship exemptions' for Meaningful Use in the case you can't attest because your vendor hasn't updated the software in a timely manner.

A lot of that is that Congress just pulls target dates out their ass without any knowledge or consideration given to how much actual work it will take to meet those dates.
 
2014-08-06 02:34:48 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: pchouky: I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.

I've not heard of this outrage.  Am I correct to assume it has something to do with right-wing outrage du-jour about money being wasted on "mating habits of some stupid fruit flies?"  If so, GOD F*CKING DAMNIT SO F*CKING HARD.

And for all you herpa-derpers:  Drosophila (common fruit fly) is one of the most significant species for genetic studies.  You could fill 53' semi trailers with peer-reviewed articles about findings based on studies of this species.  Your life has been positively impacted by technologies spawned from these studies, in many ways... Medicine being the most obvious.  So when you take your fatty-be-gone pills, or your why-won't-you-get-hard pills, or your diabeeeeetus pills, or your heart disease pills, or whatever, be thankful that people way smarter than you funded and conducted these studies, because you'd probably be dead had they not done so.


I would say 8.5/10.. you've probably had some decent bites, but if you dont reach for the stars you'll never taste the sun.. carry on.
/no slashies
 
2014-08-06 02:47:18 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: pchouky: I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.

I've not heard of this outrage.  Am I correct to assume it has something to do with right-wing outrage du-jour about money being wasted on "mating habits of some stupid fruit flies?"  If so, GOD F*CKING DAMNIT SO F*CKING HARD.

And for all you herpa-derpers:  Drosophila (common fruit fly) is one of the most significant species for genetic studies.  You could fill 53' semi trailers with peer-reviewed articles about findings based on studies of this species.  Your life has been positively impacted by technologies spawned from these studies, in many ways... Medicine being the most obvious.  So when you take your fatty-be-gone pills, or your why-won't-you-get-hard pills, or your diabeeeeetus pills, or your heart disease pills, or whatever, be thankful that people way smarter than you funded and conducted these studies, because you'd probably be dead had they not done so.


They also had complaints about funding for duck penis studies and shrimp treadmills.  It's almost like they don't understand how basic research works.
 
2014-08-06 03:53:46 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: pchouky: I am the libbiest lib that ever libbed, but this is infuriating. Those are public dollars and we deserve to know at least in general what sort of expenditures they went for.

On the other hand, I know why this is happening. There are probably many people working in these agencies that go to work every day proud of what they do for a living and believe in what they're doing, that live in fear that they'll end up targeted by some anti-intellectual populist blowhard, regardless of the scientific or social worth of the work they do, and be legislated out of existence. (Remember the million-dollar mating fruit flies?) They don't want to be noticed and they don't want to make it easy either.

But seriously, incompatible accounting systems? That needs to be fixed ASAP. You can't run any organization like that.

I've not heard of this outrage.  Am I correct to assume it has something to do with right-wing outrage du-jour about money being wasted on "mating habits of some stupid fruit flies?"  If so, GOD F*CKING DAMNIT SO F*CKING HARD.

And for all you herpa-derpers:  Drosophila (common fruit fly) is one of the most significant species for genetic studies.  You could fill 53' semi trailers with peer-reviewed articles about findings based on studies of this species.  Your life has been positively impacted by technologies spawned from these studies, in many ways... Medicine being the most obvious.  So when you take your fatty-be-gone pills, or your why-won't-you-get-hard pills, or your diabeeeeetus pills, or your heart disease pills, or whatever, be thankful that people way smarter than you funded and conducted these studies, because you'd probably be dead had they not done so.


This isn't about people complaining about how money was spent.

This is about government bureaucrats failing to correctly report how it was spent.

Pathetic.
 
2014-08-06 05:30:09 AM  
Ok, so I think I got this straight - the Government Accountability Office and Senate Government Affairs Committee have both criticised the Office of Management and Budget because the USAspending.gov website - currently run by the Government Services Administration but soon to be run by the Bureau of the Fiscal Service at the Department of the Treasury - couldn't get accurate spending figures from, among others, the Office of National Drug Control Policy in the White House (who thought responsibility for reporting their spending lay with Health and Human Services) or the Department of the Interior (because their accounting software wasn't compatible).

I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that with such a bloated bureaucracy the left hand doesn't have a farking clue what the right hand is doing.
 
2014-08-06 05:41:49 AM  
Shouldn't the SGC be paying for itself at this point?
 
2014-08-06 05:59:37 AM  
Sure, they can spend all the taxpayers cash, and not even worry about accountability. But if i owe the IRS 100.00, they send tony and guido over to muss me up, take my house, take my tax refund, garnish my wages. I have to have mine right down to the penny. Theirs? I guess they can just spend what they want and not worry about it.
 
2014-08-06 06:01:20 AM  
That secret space agency isn't cheap.
 
2014-08-06 06:14:46 AM  

The_Hound: /it's also my nickname for my cat, Butters


Photograph required.  : )
 
2014-08-06 06:28:36 AM  

morg: So a recently introduced website promoting transparency in government is not getting full compliance from government agencies in reporting? It'll probably take a little time. I wish it was a different but it's probably akin to a u-turn in a cargo ship.


Article says website is 6 years old and currently running at between 2-7% accurate. At that pace, websites will be an obsolete concept long before they're recording reliable data on theirs.
 
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