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(Think Progress)   While the United States still struggles with parking and taxis, Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership altogether   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 131
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2014-08-05 01:28:13 PM  
Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership altogether


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"Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership."
 
2014-08-05 02:01:18 PM  
That seems very cool, but I would still need to own a car for the foreseeable future. It's not like I enjoy spending $50k on a depreciable asset every few years.
 
2014-08-05 02:26:09 PM  
Done in one.
 
2014-08-05 02:39:07 PM  

RodneyToady: Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership altogether


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"Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership."


Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership
 
2014-08-05 02:42:34 PM  
But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?
 
2014-08-05 03:18:26 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


You sound fat and jealous.
 
2014-08-05 03:19:53 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


shoes, watches, we'll find something.
 
2014-08-05 03:19:56 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


What's wrong with "Why did you bring 18 items to the 10-item express lane, you lousy f**k"?
 
2014-08-05 03:20:14 PM  
It's sounds like pure communist.

Yea, 'Merica!
 
2014-08-05 03:21:57 PM  

WTFDYW: I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?

You sound fat and jealouslike a pedestrian.

 
2014-08-05 03:24:26 PM  
Most of the time I know where I'm going and the best way to get there. I don't own a car because of the exceptions.
 
2014-08-05 03:24:41 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


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2014-08-05 03:25:29 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


Agreed.
And how else am I going to compensate for my micro penis if I don't have my big truck?
 
2014-08-05 03:26:14 PM  
How is an app supposed to get me 20 miles to work, if I have no vehicle?
 
2014-08-05 03:26:22 PM  
Read the plan.

Just easier taking my car.
 
2014-08-05 03:26:33 PM  
Small country solutions.
 
2014-08-05 03:26:53 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?


Ah, I remember the days when I looked for a car that I thought reflected my personality. Something that was stylish, but sensible and reliable. But those days are long gone. The last car I bought was a fully loaded Suburban for the following reasons: I needed something that could fit three full-size car seats for small children and the ones they make these days are HUGE and it needed to be able to fit all three kids our essentials and one dog in case we have to bug out of town for a week-long hurrication. End of list. Does a Suburban make a comment about me as a person? F*ck if I know. I just know it's BIG. And the DVD player keeps the kids quiet on ten hour drives.
 
2014-08-05 03:27:24 PM  
I can't smoke marijuana in a community car. No thanks.
 
2014-08-05 03:28:43 PM  

SurfaceTension: RodneyToady: Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership altogether


[oi62.tinypic.com image 320x180]

"Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership."

Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership


Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership
 
2014-08-05 03:29:20 PM  
so this is completely unlike zipcar or car2go or ...
 
2014-08-05 03:29:40 PM  

Guilty_plea_bargain: I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?

Agreed.
And how else am I going to compensate for my micro penis if I don't have my big truck?


Buy a big gun.
 
2014-08-05 03:29:47 PM  

Pick: How is an app supposed to get me 20 miles to work, if I have no vehicle?


You go to the app, find  the available car closest to you, get in drive to work.
 
2014-08-05 03:30:00 PM  
So we're losing to Finland in the pointless app race?
 
2014-08-05 03:30:07 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?

What's wrong with "Why did you bring 18 items to the 10-item express lane, you lousy f**k"?


sometimes i like to take 11 or 12 items through the express/self-check, just to see if anyone in line behind me twitches.

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2014-08-05 03:31:36 PM  
so it's like a million zipcars?
 
2014-08-05 03:33:54 PM  
So, Lyft or Uber basically?

//hint : It's been done here too. It just really only works with cities in a country of our size...
 
2014-08-05 03:33:57 PM  
In my home town, UBER was so successful, the taxi companies lobbied to have it run out of business, and succeeded.
 
2014-08-05 03:34:11 PM  
Would never happen in the U.S., as the lobbyists would have something to say about it.
 
2014-08-05 03:34:19 PM  
Submitard seems to have missed a couple of salient facts about Finland

Size: Smaller than Montana
Population: Smaller than metro Atlanta

/comparing apples to oak trees
 
2014-08-05 03:34:50 PM  

Nabb1: Ah, I remember the days when I looked for a car that I thought reflected my personality. Something that was stylish, but sensible and reliable. But those days are long gone. The last car I bought was a fully loaded Suburban for the following reasons: I needed something that could fit three full-size car seats for small children and the ones they make these days are HUGE and it needed to be able to fit all three kids our essentials and one dog in case we have to bug out of town for a week-long hurrication. End of list. Does a Suburban make a comment about me as a person? F*ck if I know. I just know it's BIG. And the DVD player keeps the kids quiet on ten hour drives.


And you need a new one every few years?
 
2014-08-05 03:34:51 PM  

GDubDub: SurfaceTension: RodneyToady: Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership altogether


[oi62.tinypic.com image 320x180]

"Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership."

Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership

Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership


Finland is creating a smartphone app-based transportation exchange of the future which aims to eliminate the need for car ownership
 
2014-08-05 03:35:11 PM  

Somaticasual: So, Lyft or Uber basically?

//hint : It's been done here too. It just really only works with cities in a country of our size...


I could never take a Lyft car in good conscience with that stupid mustache on each of its cars.
 
2014-08-05 03:35:20 PM  
As long as my car is used as a mobile storage container, this plan will not work for me.
 
2014-08-05 03:35:44 PM  
Finland, Finland, Finland
The country where I want to be
Pony trekking or camping
Or just watching TV
Finland, Finland, Finland
It's the country for me
 
2014-08-05 03:35:46 PM  
Meh. You keep your app. I'll keep my Jeep and I'll be able to go places you can't. I mean, you could follow me, but it'll hurt.
 
2014-08-05 03:36:01 PM  

monoski: Pick: How is an app supposed to get me 20 miles to work, if I have no vehicle?

You go to the app, find  the available car closest to you, get in drive to work.


So, I just walk 5 to 15 miles to get to the nearest car?

/rural living
//where car ownership really matters
 
2014-08-05 03:36:47 PM  
These things always sound good.  Like, I love the idea of them.  Logically, it makes a ton of sense that we'd all share cars and let computers schedule the use efficiently.

But in practice, it's horrible.

Same with public transportation.  It sounds so good.  Until you do it.  I ditched my car and started riding the bus into work each day.  You know what?  The bus was disgusting.  They started out brand new, sparklingly clean, but you know who trashed them?  People who ride buses, that's who.  They're quickly covered in graffiti, and filth.  Food is left/spilled/discarded, homeless people take up residence for hours at a time, drunk guys piss on the floor.  Soon there is the unmistakeable stank of public transit.

Shared cars will be like that, but worse.

One eco-friendly soccer mom with three kids will turn a new car into a dirty mess in about 30 seconds.  Then toss in a few high school kids who rented it/used Dad's account after homecoming and got a handy J all over the front seat.  That's the sad reality of shared goods.  If 1% of people are disgusting, and they are, they'll destroy it for the other 99%.  The only thing that keeps these things working as well as they do, are that they're not mainstream yet.  Trendy Urban 'Hip' people are using things like Go Car right now.  Once it's mainstream, it will suck.
 
2014-08-05 03:37:08 PM  
thinkprogress.org
This woman has a freakishly big mouth.

/fap
 
2014-08-05 03:37:51 PM  

LessO2: Would never happen in the U.S., as the lobbyists would have something to say about it.


Go back and look at what GM did to public transportation for a good example.
 
2014-08-05 03:38:00 PM  

Sofa King Smart: so this is completely unlike zipcar or car2go or ...


This.   Simpsons America did it.  But hey, let's not ruin a good "look how much better Europe is than America" party.
 
2014-08-05 03:38:09 PM  

monoski: Pick: How is an app supposed to get me 20 miles to work, if I have no vehicle?

You go to the app, find  the available car closest to you, get in drive to work.


Because it worked so well with the community bikes, right? The very few that weren't stolen.
 
2014-08-05 03:38:23 PM  

Nabb1: I_Am_Weasel: But for many Americans, a car is an extensions of their pe...rsonality.

It's everyone's God given right to own as much as possible.

If no car was owned, how would you be able to judge someone?

Ah, I remember the days when I looked for a car that I thought reflected my personality. Something that was stylish, but sensible and reliable. But those days are long gone. The last car I bought was a fully loaded Suburban for the following reasons: I needed something that could fit three full-size car seats for small children and the ones they make these days are HUGE and it needed to be able to fit all three kids our essentials and one dog in case we have to bug out of town for a week-long hurrication. End of list. Does a Suburban make a comment about me as a person? F*ck if I know. I just know it's BIG. And the DVD player keeps the kids quiet on ten hour drives.


You at least have a use for the size, and I doubt it looks as douche-y as this:
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2014-08-05 03:39:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I can't smoke marijuana in a community car. No thanks.


This.
 
2014-08-05 03:40:06 PM  
That's actually the goal of UBER one of the founders has talked about it.
 
2014-08-05 03:41:13 PM  

Sofa King Smart: so this is completely unlike zipcar or car2go or ...


fireclown: so it's like a million zipcars?


Somaticasual: So, Lyft or Uber basically?

//hint : It's been done here too. It just really only works with cities in a country of our size...


NO NO NO

This app gives you ALL available transportation options and prices, and I would guess the future of the system would be a little bit like the public bikes, except with more strict enforcement and penalties for law breakers.

Sounds like a great idea for a city, probably won't work for the country.
 
2014-08-05 03:41:26 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Nabb1: Ah, I remember the days when I looked for a car that I thought reflected my personality. Something that was stylish, but sensible and reliable. But those days are long gone. The last car I bought was a fully loaded Suburban for the following reasons: I needed something that could fit three full-size car seats for small children and the ones they make these days are HUGE and it needed to be able to fit all three kids our essentials and one dog in case we have to bug out of town for a week-long hurrication. End of list. Does a Suburban make a comment about me as a person? F*ck if I know. I just know it's BIG. And the DVD player keeps the kids quiet on ten hour drives.

And you need a new one every few years?


No. We are a two car family. We drive them until necessity dictates we have to get another, but that alternates every 3-5 years between the two of us. My wife and I have had a total of five different cars in twelve years of marriage, one of which was lost in Katrina, and two of which were traded in for bigger vehicles as we had more kids. We'd still be driving our Jetta and Passat but for them being way too small.
 
2014-08-05 03:41:49 PM  
Car sharing sucks.  People are gross, except me.  I'm awesome.
 
2014-08-05 03:42:16 PM  

Burr: monoski: Pick: How is an app supposed to get me 20 miles to work, if I have no vehicle?

You go to the app, find  the available car closest to you, get in drive to work.

So, I just walk 5 to 15 miles to get to the nearest car?

/rural living
//where car ownership really matters


Not gonna work for you, this will pretty much be an urban solution but Finland is very small and not as spread out so may work there.
//that is until Obama moves you into the FEMA camp in his fourth term in office. Hahahaha
 
2014-08-05 03:42:34 PM  

NicktheSmoker: DROxINxTHExWIND: I can't smoke marijuana in a community car. No thanks.

This.


I hope you two know that's no better than driving drunk. I have zero problems with marijuana, but driving high is inexcusable.
 
2014-08-05 03:42:59 PM  

Nabb1: DrewCurtisJr: Nabb1: Ah, I remember the days when I looked for a car that I thought reflected my personality. Something that was stylish, but sensible and reliable. But those days are long gone. The last car I bought was a fully loaded Suburban for the following reasons: I needed something that could fit three full-size car seats for small children and the ones they make these days are HUGE and it needed to be able to fit all three kids our essentials and one dog in case we have to bug out of town for a week-long hurrication. End of list. Does a Suburban make a comment about me as a person? F*ck if I know. I just know it's BIG. And the DVD player keeps the kids quiet on ten hour drives.

And you need a new one every few years?

No. We are a two car family. We drive them until necessity dictates we have to get another, but that alternates every 3-5 years between the two of us. My wife and I have had a total of five different cars in twelve years of marriage, one of which was lost in Katrina, and two of which were traded in for bigger vehicles as we had more kids. We'd still be driving our Jetta and Passat but for them being way too small.


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