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2014-08-05 03:27:47 PM
Himem.sys?
 
2014-08-05 04:08:56 PM

gopher321: Himem.sys?


qemm.sys
 
2014-08-05 04:10:47 PM
Meh. Call me when they can make a RAM module smaller than my penis. That's some REAL miniaturization right there...
 
2014-08-05 04:11:14 PM
Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.
 
2014-08-05 04:17:25 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.


It appears to run on some form of electricity.
 
2014-08-05 04:22:53 PM

ArkPanda: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

It appears to run on some form of electricity.


the electricity is generated by flying monkeys spinning a giant sideways hamster wheel. it looks like a carousel with tired, angry, flying monkeys pulling it in circles forever.
 
2014-08-05 04:30:25 PM

ArkPanda: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

It appears to run on some form of electricity.


I believe it's meant to go into some type of electronic device or gadget, so that makes perfect sense.
 
2014-08-05 04:35:36 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.


That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-05 04:40:25 PM
They only get power from the RAM slot. I/O is via SATA as usual. It's a space saving gimmick.
 
2014-08-05 04:40:49 PM

NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...


It's meant to conserve space. This way, you can plug SSDs in without using up drive slots. That's all.
 
2014-08-05 04:45:33 PM

untaken_name: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

It's meant to conserve space. This way, you can plug SSDs in without using up drive slots. That's all.


I suppose it caters to folks who want multiple drives but aren't willing to invest in a case/mobo prepared to accept a raid array.
 
2014-08-05 04:48:31 PM
doesn't strike me as a very large target consumer group.
 
2014-08-05 04:49:53 PM

untaken_name: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

It's meant to conserve space. This way, you can plug SSDs in without using up drive slots. That's all.


I guess I've just never jumped on the "compact over alles" bandwagon, because I've never had a shortage of physical space in my cases.

*shrug* To each their own
 
2014-08-05 04:52:43 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.


Worse, it only draws power through the RAM slot. It still uses your SATA connectors to transfer data.
 
2014-08-05 04:54:02 PM
I first saw this about 7 years ago. Great place to install an OS.
 
2014-08-05 04:55:44 PM

Tobin_Lam: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

Worse, it only draws power through the RAM slot. It still uses your SATA connectors to transfer data.


you're right. I missed that because they talked about power right after. So you still need a mobo with enough sata slots. but for some reason not enough hd mounts to meet the sata needs.
What's the farking point? I guess both dorks with this problem but not enough money for the right mobo/case are stoked.
 
2014-08-05 05:11:52 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: ArkPanda: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

It appears to run on some form of electricity.

the electricity is generated by flying monkeys spinning a giant sideways hamster wheel. it looks like a carousel with tired, angry, flying monkeys pulling it in circles forever.


Electricity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what electricity does.
We know that it makes lightbulbs shine, and irons heat up, and telephones ring. But we cannot say what electricity itself is like. We cannot even say where electricity comes from. Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity. Others think that the movement of the Earth produces some of it. All anyone knows is that electricity seems to be everywhere, and that there are many ways to bring it forth.
 
2014-08-05 05:29:10 PM
They can take their fancy memory placement and come back after they moved the damn SATA slots so they doesn't disappear and become mostly useless under my graphics card.
 
2014-08-05 05:38:13 PM

DerAppie: They can take their fancy memory placement and come back after they moved the damn SATA slots so they doesn't disappear and become mostly useless under my graphics card.


THIS! Having to remove my video card every time i need to move a sata connector is annoying as fark.
 
2014-08-05 05:57:11 PM
how do they keep it cool since it appears that the aluminum heat sinks have been removed? can't wait to hear the high pitched whine of the cooling fans after installing one of those.

/I really need to go to a liquid cooled box one of these days
//hearing the fans on my case scream while playing a game isn't fun
 
2014-08-05 05:59:25 PM

jso2897: Uchiha_Cycliste: ArkPanda: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

It appears to run on some form of electricity.

the electricity is generated by flying monkeys spinning a giant sideways hamster wheel. it looks like a carousel with tired, angry, flying monkeys pulling it in circles forever.

Electricity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what electricity does.
We know that it makes lightbulbs shine, and irons heat up, and telephones ring. But we cannot say what electricity itself is like. We cannot even say where electricity comes from. Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity. Others think that the movement of the Earth produces some of it. All anyone knows is that electricity seems to be everywhere, and that there are many ways to bring it forth.


god damn these scientifically illiterate, evilly misleading evangelical republicans. All they do is hurt children, ironic given the way they love fetuses (but not babies, women or children).
 
2014-08-05 06:00:16 PM

germ78: how do they keep it cool since it appears that the aluminum heat sinks have been removed? can't wait to hear the high pitched whine of the cooling fans after installing one of those.

/I really need to go to a liquid cooled box one of these days
//hearing the fans on my case scream while playing a game isn't fun


why would you need to cool a solid_state HD?
 
2014-08-05 06:01:03 PM
also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.
 
2014-08-05 06:09:17 PM

NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...


So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.
 
2014-08-05 06:13:14 PM

ArkPanda: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

It appears to run on some form of electricity.



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2014-08-05 06:16:28 PM

spawn73: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.


I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.
 
2014-08-05 06:30:18 PM
Meh, I have a 128 gig SSD in my HTPC for the OS. All my media is in my NAS / media server. My main desktop is in a over sized full tower that could house a super computer. I'm wasting probably 90% of it's capacity, but by gawhd I've got a cool looking monolith next to my computer desk. In reality, it gets more use as a table then for it's intended use.

/a HUGE computer is in no way an attempt to compensate for anything.
 
2014-08-05 06:31:44 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.


Stop breaking into my house and using my stuff. I know it's you because how else would you have intimate details of my life like this? STOP IT.
 
2014-08-05 06:33:37 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: doesn't strike me as a very large target consumer group.


NateAsbestos: untaken_name: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

It's meant to conserve space. This way, you can plug SSDs in without using up drive slots. That's all.

I guess I've just never jumped on the "compact over alles" bandwagon, because I've never had a shortage of physical space in my cases.

*shrug* To each their own


I'm pretty sure it's for the mini- and micro-ATX crowd. People who want more or less fully-featured HTPCs, etc. I doubt it's for mainstream use, but I can see where it would be extremely handy in one of those tiny cases with only one or two hdd mounts.
 
2014-08-05 06:46:49 PM

untaken_name: Uchiha_Cycliste: also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.

Stop breaking into my house and using my stuff. I know it's you because how else would you have intimate details of my life like this? STOP IT.


You are describing a problem that is well known to me. Open up the case, pull out the fans, clear out all the hair and you will be good to go. If you clean them and they are still stupid loud, replace them; bloody stoner =P.
 
2014-08-05 06:49:58 PM
Problem here is those are full size memory sticks, anyone who really wants to save space uses a board with laptop memory that lays flat on the motherboard but then again those only come in mini-itx size. I could see these used in a storage server where all the regular sata ports are occupied and you just load a 16gb flash card with the OS on it but then again a sata card could also work
 
2014-08-05 07:13:57 PM

BigBooper: Meh, I have a 128 gig SSD in my HTPC for the OS. All my media is in my NAS / media server. My main desktop is in a over sized full tower that could house a super computer. I'm wasting probably 90% of it's capacity, but by gawhd I've got a cool looking monolith next to my computer desk. In reality, it gets more use as a table then for it's intended use.

/a HUGE computer is in no way an attempt to compensate for anything.


I thought it was to compensate for the Crysis system specs?
 
2014-08-05 07:23:53 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: untaken_name: Uchiha_Cycliste: also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.

Stop breaking into my house and using my stuff. I know it's you because how else would you have intimate details of my life like this? STOP IT.

You are describing a problem that is well known to me. Open up the case, pull out the fans, clear out all the hair and you will be good to go. If you clean them and they are still stupid loud, replace them; bloody stoner =P.


Well, if the noise bothers you so much, feel free to replace them next time you've broken into my house. I give you permission. But don't smoke my whole stash, bro. At least leave me some shake.
 
2014-08-05 07:33:36 PM

untaken_name: Uchiha_Cycliste: untaken_name: Uchiha_Cycliste: also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.

Stop breaking into my house and using my stuff. I know it's you because how else would you have intimate details of my life like this? STOP IT.

You are describing a problem that is well known to me. Open up the case, pull out the fans, clear out all the hair and you will be good to go. If you clean them and they are still stupid loud, replace them; bloody stoner =P.

Well, if the noise bothers you so much, feel free to replace them next time you've broken into my house. I give you permission. But don't smoke my whole stash, bro. At least leave me some shake.


Dont worry brah, as long as it's not over 65db I can't hear it. Should be no problem.
 
2014-08-05 07:34:05 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: also, if you clean the weed resin and cat hair out of your tower and fan it'll quiet down ALOT.


Or train your cat to go outside before she smokes up.
 
2014-08-05 07:46:31 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.

I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.


To make smaller motherboards.
 
2014-08-05 08:14:34 PM

ZAZ: They only get power from the RAM slot. I/O is via SATA as usual. It's a space saving gimmick.


Exactly. More to the point, exactly what the article states in its opening sentence: "PC makers do all kinds of things to save space inside their cases, but this is a new one to us...."
 
2014-08-05 09:22:29 PM

spawn73: Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.

I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.

To make smaller motherboards.


where is the mobo savings? A hd doesn't attach to a motherboard, it's usually mounted to the case, and this still needs an SATA port on the board.
 
2014-08-05 09:25:46 PM
Uchiha_Cycliste:
I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.

To fit more into the micro and nano ITX cases that really don't have a lot of room left.
 
2014-08-05 09:41:31 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.

I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.

To make smaller motherboards.

where is the mobo savings? A hd doesn't attach to a motherboard, it's usually mounted to the case, and this still needs an SATA port on the board.


You got to be farking kidding me.

No, a mSATA doesn't mount to a case, it usually mounts on the motherboard. Except, in this case, where it doesn't.

fark me.
 
2014-08-05 09:46:13 PM

spawn73: Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: Uchiha_Cycliste: spawn73: NateAsbestos: Uchiha_Cycliste: Ok, so it's a Solid state HD (not magnetic disk) and it mounts through an auxiliary slot that is part of the towers DDRN-ram. it data transfers and gets power through the RAM. I imagine cach hierarchies are maintained, that the HD is still "main-memory" after an L3$ miss. But it's attached to the mother board differently.

That's what I got out of this too. I really don't see how this is supposed to be helpful in any way...

So, you actually read the article?

The one that tells you what you get out of it?

Yeah, don't look at me, as if I care that you managed that feat.

I think we get what they are going for, but stuck at "what's the farking point?" so stuck back at why do this.

To make smaller motherboards.

where is the mobo savings? A hd doesn't attach to a motherboard, it's usually mounted to the case, and this still needs an SATA port on the board.

You got to be farking kidding me.

No, a mSATA doesn't mount to a case, it usually mounts on the motherboard. Except, in this case, where it doesn't.

fark me.


well, i guess that's different then. And apparently my tower has old things. my sad, sad tower.  I saw SATA and thought of my disk drive.
 
2014-08-05 11:18:06 PM

spawn73: No, a mSATA doesn't mount to a case, it usually mounts on the motherboard. Except, in this case, where it doesn't.


They moved the RAM? I thought it was usually mounted on the MB.

/kidding, kidding
 
2014-08-06 12:50:42 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: germ78: how do they keep it cool since it appears that the aluminum heat sinks have been removed? can't wait to hear the high pitched whine of the cooling fans after installing one of those.

/I really need to go to a liquid cooled box one of these days
//hearing the fans on my case scream while playing a game isn't fun

why would you need to cool a solid_state HD?


Same reason you need to cool all the other solid-state parts: heat is the enemy of performance, reliability and longevity.
 
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