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(Mother Jones)   Cosmos star Neil deGrasse Tyson gets back in the ring with the Anti-GMO crowd for a little more rope-a-dope   ( divider line
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2014-08-05 04:59:36 PM  
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lindalouwho: someonelse: I don't disagree with my make-believe brainiac boyfriend, but isn't this a bit out of his purview?

He has many fields of expertise, but he is first and foremost a scientist. So, no.

It's good to know that an astrophysicist is an expert in every field.
2014-08-05 05:51:57 PM  
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idsfa: someonelse: But his education is in astrophysics.

Astrophysics is the study of everything in the universe.  Which includes the Earth and everything on it.

Quiet, Sheldon.
2014-08-05 05:13:31 PM  
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someonelse: lindalouwho: Bith Set Me Up: someonelse: I don't disagree with my make-believe brainiac boyfriend, but isn't this a bit out of his purview?

"I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy - and when he talks about a nonscientific matter, he will sound as naive as anyone untrained in the matter."

You aren't saying GMOs today don't involve science, are you?

It does, (and again I cannot believe I am taking issue with NdGT, because he is awesome and I would climb that man like a tree) but I fail to see why his opinion on, say, the patenting of seeds should carry more weight than anyone else's.


/sorry for yelling, but cripes sake
2014-08-05 04:41:59 PM  
1 vote:
Pro-GMO or No-GMO, I think what's on ballot measures is the question of whether GMO products should be labelled as such, so that people can make a choice,  not whether they should exist.

That's all.  Now I have to go back to burning my flag, which the SUPREME COURT says that I HAVE TO DO.
2014-08-05 04:07:57 PM  
1 vote:
All of this is distracting from my original point, which is how incredibly dangerous it is to consider labeling GMO foods with a GMO label.

A GMO label gave my dog mange.
2014-08-05 03:57:45 PM  
1 vote:

stpauler: Marcus Aurelius: stpauler: Marcus Aurelius: stpauler: The GMO banana, aka the Cavendish

I hate to break it to you, but the Cavendish was discovered long before GMO technology existed.

GMO technology is prehistoric, about 12000 BCE.So no, the Cavendish has not been around as long with the stone age ending between 6000 and 2000 BCE.

"GMO" technically refers to the use of genetic engineering to extract a gene from one organism, and splice it into the DNA of another organism.  This was first done in 1973.  You are thinking of "selective breeding", not "genetic engineering".
From my first link:
"Humans have been domesticating plants and animals since around 12,000 BC; the process of selective breeding, in which organisms with desired traits (and thus with the desired genes) are used to breed the next generation and organisms lacking the trait are not bred, is the oldest form genetic modification. "

Selective breeding will yield a red tabby cat.  But in order to make a cat glow in the dark, you need a GMO.
2014-08-05 03:30:15 PM  
1 vote:
It's these times, when I see the wacko anti-GMO leftwing folks actually weirdly cross the line and end up with the wacko right wing folks.The GMO banana, aka the Cavendish, has been changed from its original origins to the standard we enjoy today.

It has nothing to do with either killing us or God. So won't both sides STFU.
2014-08-05 03:27:12 PM  
1 vote:
Tyson concludes:

If your objection to GMOs is the morality of selling nonprerennial [sic] seed stocks, then focus on that. If your objection to GMOs is the monopolistic conduct of agribusiness, then focus on that. But to paint the entire concept of GMO with these particular issues is to blind yourself to the underlying truth of what humans have been doing-and will continue to do-to nature so that it best serves our survival. That's what all organisms do when they can, or would do, if they could. Those that didn't, have gone extinct extinct [sic].

He said "extinct" twice.
2014-08-05 03:18:34 PM  
1 vote:
A GMO label sprained my ankle.
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