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(Opposing Views)   Protip: If you're a border patrol agent inquiring about someone's citizenship and their response is "Does it really matter?", don't reply with "Not anymore." Why? Because they just might have a hidden camera   (opposingviews.com) divider line 123
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2014-08-05 09:08:39 AM  
This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.
 
2014-08-05 09:28:44 AM  

baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.


Even if it wasn't I'm confused about why this would be an issue - he's driving a commercial truck delivering things to the US, aren't Mexican truck drivers allowed to do that anyway?
 
2014-08-05 09:35:51 AM  
You found a border patrol officer who agreed with you and got him fired.  Good Jorb.
 
2014-08-05 10:55:26 AM  
So the officer doesn't care to do his own job. I'm sure Obummer told him not to check anybody because that would make him look really farking stupid for not caring about his job.
 
2014-08-05 11:22:13 AM  
So something something something, killing children is ok.
 
2014-08-05 11:23:03 AM  

James!: You found a border patrol officer who agreed with you and got him fired.  Good Jorb.


Frees him up to join the Cliven Bundy Cult Ranch, I guess.
 
2014-08-05 11:24:18 AM  
Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.
 
2014-08-05 11:24:43 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So something something something, killing children is ok.


Spot on. You've taken the argument to its logical end. Here's a +1.
 
2014-08-05 11:25:12 AM  
This sounds like a set-up from a turd.. I mean Tea Partier. This kind of tactic is right up their alley
 
2014-08-05 11:25:58 AM  
Comrades! When you stop at the internal checkpoints, do not hassle the good agents of the state. Simply go about your business like good patriotic citizens.
 
2014-08-05 11:27:01 AM  
You little shiat, you're in it nowI hope they throw away the key.You should have talked to me more often than you did, but no!
You had to go your own way, have you broken any homes up lately?
 
2014-08-05 11:28:26 AM  

Abuse Liability: HotWingConspiracy: So something something something, killing children is ok.

Spot on. You've taken the argument to its logical end. Here's a +1.


I don't know, there was a little too much something in his post for my liking.
 
2014-08-05 11:28:29 AM  
... can someone explain what I'm supposed to be outraged over here? I don't understand the significance of the Q/A.

Other than maybe it's more manufactured poutrage by the cynical unthinking.
 
2014-08-05 11:29:40 AM  
I'm sure they will want everyone to show their papers and ID except for them of course because they are law abiding god fearing americans.
 
2014-08-05 11:29:43 AM  

nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.


Left wingers must lead such terrifying lives, where around every corner there is a conservative waiting to shoot you if you don't immediately say the Pledge of Allegiance and convert to Christianity.
 
2014-08-05 11:30:14 AM  

generallyso: Comrades! When you stop at the internal checkpoints, do not hassle the good agents of the state. Simply go about your business like good patriotic citizens.


The way the exchange read, didn't really seem like there was much hassling done.

I don't think I really understand the weight of the question "I'm a citizen, but does it matter anymore". Was this referring to rights? To illegal immigration?
 
2014-08-05 11:30:18 AM  

baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.


Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.
 
2014-08-05 11:30:47 AM  
So a reasonable border agent admits it's a bunch of shiat and so.... what?
 
2014-08-05 11:30:53 AM  
that must be the extra Obama border enforcement everyone has been talking about.
 
2014-08-05 11:31:02 AM  

big pig peaches: nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.

Left wingers must lead such terrifying lives, where around every corner there is a conservative waiting to shoot you if you don't immediately say the Pledge of Allegiance and convert to Christianity.


You might have a point if right wingers didn't continually couch their political rhetoric in violent metaphor, including the more explicit kinds like "Liberal hunting season is open" and "Don't retreat, reload!"
 
2014-08-05 11:33:24 AM  
So metaphor causes violence now? Good to know.
 
2014-08-05 11:34:12 AM  
I'm sure this means something, but damn if I can figure out what?
 
2014-08-05 11:34:27 AM  

NightOwl2255: Abuse Liability: HotWingConspiracy: So something something something, killing children is ok.

Spot on. You've taken the argument to its logical end. Here's a +1.

I don't know, there was a little too much something in his post for my liking.


You've got something that makes you something
something tells me loud and clear
In the end it comes to nothing
You've got nothing to eins zwei drei vier
 
2014-08-05 11:34:51 AM  

MyRandomName: baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.

Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.


I've gone through plenty of these internal checkpoints and never once been asked to provide ID. Its always just, "Are you a US citizen?" I nod my head and move along. Sometimes a German Shepherd takes a lap around the car.

This O'Keefe wannabe answered, "Yeah, but does it really matter?"

It looked to me like some sort of Tea Party secret handshake/password.
 
2014-08-05 11:35:10 AM  

Obbi: generallyso: Comrades! When you stop at the internal checkpoints, do not hassle the good agents of the state. Simply go about your business like good patriotic citizens.

The way the exchange read, didn't really seem like there was much hassling done.

I don't think I really understand the weight of the question "I'm a citizen, but does it matter anymore". Was this referring to rights? To illegal immigration?


The implied statement in his words was "Not anymore (in Obama's lawless America)."
 
2014-08-05 11:35:14 AM  
The Border Patrol Checkpoint in Texas. In Sierra Blanca? While you can see El Paso in the distance from the top of the rise, that's because it's the desert and it's about 80-100 miles away where the next mountain is.  You might be more concerned about the rumored nuclear waste dump nearby or that one other Border Patrol unit, in South Texas, that opened Men in Black.
 
2014-08-05 11:36:05 AM  

brimed03: ... can someone explain what I'm supposed to be outraged over here? I don't understand the significance of the Q/A.


The border patrol agent works for the government and is on the "inside". Him saying it doesn't really matter is therefore proof that immigrants have free rein.
 
2014-08-05 11:37:03 AM  

balthan: brimed03: ... can someone explain what I'm supposed to be outraged over here? I don't understand the significance of the Q/A.

The border patrol agent works for the government and is on the "inside". Him saying it doesn't really matter is therefore "proof" that immigrants have free rein.


FTFM.
 
2014-08-05 11:37:27 AM  

Epic Fap Session: MyRandomName: baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.

Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.

I've gone through plenty of these internal checkpoints and never once been asked to provide ID. Its always just, "Are you a US citizen?" I nod my head and move along. Sometimes a German Shepherd takes a lap around the car.

This O'Keefe wannabe answered, "Yeah, but does it really matter?"

It looked to me like some sort of Tea Party secret handshake/password.


If they don't check ID and anyone(citizen or not) can simply answer "Yes" and be on their way then it doesn't matter.
 
2014-08-05 11:37:27 AM  

MyRandomName: baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.

Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.


No, they don't.  They make you think they do, but they in fact don't have the same powers, nor can they search or detain without probable cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8U4Qn6iIIg
 
2014-08-05 11:37:50 AM  

nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.


War on women. No access to contraceptives. Third trimester bans are bans on all abortions. GMO food is the devil. Climate alarmism. Vaccinations cause autism. Circumcisions are evil. Every species of animal is endangered. Kochs are destroying america.

Yeap. Only right wingers are scared.
 
2014-08-05 11:37:52 AM  
Sierra Blanca, Texas. That's where WIllie Nelson got popped for weed.
And Snoop Dog.
And Fiona Apple.
 
2014-08-05 11:38:05 AM  

balthan: brimed03: ... can someone explain what I'm supposed to be outraged over here? I don't understand the significance of the Q/A.

The border patrol agent works for the government and is on the "inside". Him saying it doesn't really matter is therefore proof that immigrants have free rein.


I'm calling Scully to see if they can help. And then maybe for dinner afterwords.
 
2014-08-05 11:38:25 AM  
I'm just here to call names. LibTARD. Obumma. Tea Bagger.

/My work here is done.
//Carry on
 
2014-08-05 11:39:25 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So something something something, killing children is ok.


If you're Republican and the child is not white, then, yes, killing children is ok.

Other wise, if you have some shred of decency, then it's not ok.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-05 11:39:36 AM  
Sierra Blanca gets poor reviews on Yelp.
 
2014-08-05 11:40:10 AM  

qorkfiend: big pig peaches: nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.

Left wingers must lead such terrifying lives, where around every corner there is a conservative waiting to shoot you if you don't immediately say the Pledge of Allegiance and convert to Christianity.

You might have a point if right wingers didn't continually couch their political rhetoric in violent metaphor, including the more explicit kinds like "Liberal hunting season is open" and "Don't retreat, reload!"


Don't forget that their solution to the problem of their candidate not winning the vote (aka. democracy) is a "2nd amendment solution".
 
2014-08-05 11:40:49 AM  

balthan: balthan: brimed03: ... can someone explain what I'm supposed to be outraged over here? I don't understand the significance of the Q/A.

The border patrol agent works for the government and is on the "inside". Him saying it doesn't really matter is therefore "proof" that immigrants have free rein.

FTFM.


One quotation mark away from Poe's law my friend. Careful.
 
2014-08-05 11:41:31 AM  

MyRandomName: Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.


Unless they have reasonable suspicion that you're not a citizen, they have zero rights to stop, detain or search. Just pull up and when they ask, "are you a citizen?" just say, "am I free to go?". After about 5 minutes of repeating that answer, they will let you go. There are dozens, if not hundreds, of YouTube videos of people doing exactly that.
 
2014-08-05 11:41:32 AM  
I fail to see the shock and awe in this, and if it truly doesn't matter, maybe we should inform the state of Arizona about this.
 
2014-08-05 11:41:43 AM  

Epic Fap Session: MyRandomName: baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.

Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.

I've gone through plenty of these internal checkpoints and never once been asked to provide ID. Its always just, "Are you a US citizen?" I nod my head and move along. Sometimes a German Shepherd takes a lap around the car.

This O'Keefe wannabe answered, "Yeah, but does it really matter?"

It looked to me like some sort of Tea Party secret handshake/password.


I go through the one at Eagle Pass all the time.  They always have the dog take a lap.  I'm pretty sure that the primary purpose of the checkpoint is drug enforcement (under the guise of immigration enforcement).  I generally stop at Wendy's before heading from Eagle Pass to San Antonio and I'm always tempted to get an extra ground beef patty just to drop on the ground for the dog.  Of course I really don't want an extra hassle from state security, so I don't.  But it's nice to imagine.
 
2014-08-05 11:41:45 AM  
"Who grew the food you ate for lunch?"

"Does it really matter?"
 
hej
2014-08-05 11:41:50 AM  
WhoFarkinCares.jpg
 
2014-08-05 11:42:56 AM  

Callous: If they don't check ID and anyone(citizen or not) can simply answer "Yes" and be on their way then it doesn't matter.


You'll be shocked to learn that they profiled me multiple times in their attempts to prevent illegal immigration.

Had I been in an old pickup truck pulling another old pickup truck with a rope and spoke no English, I may have been asked to provide some paperwork.
 
2014-08-05 11:43:05 AM  

big pig peaches: nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.

Left wingers must lead such terrifying lives, where around every corner there is a conservative waiting to shoot you if you don't immediately say the Pledge of Allegiance and convert to Christianity.


We sure do! That is why we carry guns everywhere we go, demand that the government build a fence to keep anyone different from us away, and try to keep "others" from voting. I'll admit it. Those are only things that un-American cowardly pussies would do.
 
2014-08-05 11:44:18 AM  

MyRandomName: nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.

War on women. No access to contraceptives. Third trimester bans are bans on all abortions. GMO food is the devil. Climate alarmism. Vaccinations cause autism. Circumcisions are evil. Every species of animal is endangered. Kochs are destroying america.

Yeap. Only right wingers are scared.


BSAB!
 
2014-08-05 11:44:45 AM  
DRTFA, but am I to asume said officer lost his job over this?  This kind of thing needs to stop before every one of us is out of work for some manufactured outrage or another.
 
2014-08-05 11:45:25 AM  
Seems to me that this could interpreted at least two ways:

The agent is complaining that citizenship no longer matters because Obama is going to let his Marxist Muslim Mexican hordes overrun Amurika or

The agent implying that your citizenship doesn't matter because the government will do whatever the fark it wants to do to your because it no longer needs to concern itself about your precious "rights" thanks to recent anti-terrorism laws. So shut up and move along before you get an enhanced cavity search.
 
2014-08-05 11:46:08 AM  

big pig peaches: nocturnal001: Right wingers must live such terrifying lives where all around them are agents of evil. No wonder they lose their sh$t and shoot people or at least point guns at them in a busy airport.

Left wingers must lead such terrifying lives, where around every corner there is a conservative waiting to shoot you if you don't immediately say the Pledge of Allegiance and convert to Christianity.


  Nah, not really. While an unhealthily large fraction of right wingers may indeed sit around and openly fantasize about killing everyone not as racially, theologically, or ideologically pure as they are, those people are also almost by definition complete cowards. They are the basement dwellers of the derp crowd.
  Sure, the rare one does crack occasionally and lash out violently, but most would never act without the protection of a structure that removed personal risk (i.e. they would make great brownshirts in an authoritarian regime, but by themselves they just impotently whine a lot).
 
2014-08-05 11:46:19 AM  

CruJones: MyRandomName: baka-san: This means something!!!

To the derp cave!!!!

/it's a freakin internal checkpoint, not a border crossing.

Speaking of derp. These internal checkpoints have the same powers as border checkpoints. They are free to search and detain.

Maybe you should do some of your own learning.

No, they don't.  They make you think they do, but they in fact don't have the same powers, nor can they search or detain without probable cause.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8U4Qn6iIIg


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_ch eckpoints

You may want to read up on the supreme court ruling on it. Fixed interior checkpoints have more leeway than roving.
 
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