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2014-08-05 12:41:39 PM  
A provision means more mentally ill young people are getting medical treatment

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More than okay, in fact.
 
2014-08-05 01:06:50 PM  
There's no college attendance requirement to qualify for coverage under the ACA. I think the government had already dropped that requirement even before Obama got elected; my employer dropped that requirement about a decade ago.
 
2014-08-05 01:36:57 PM  
More elitist crap from the left. "college" hmph, more like liberal indoctrination schools.

/Poes law
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2014-08-05 01:39:22 PM  
And even if this is all 100% accurate the gerrymandered districts will keep the GOP at least +20 in the House after the 2014 election.
 
2014-08-05 01:39:41 PM  
Welcome to Obama's America!
 
2014-08-05 01:40:28 PM  
This is a great part of the ACA. Hopefully kids seek treatment instead of being scared of the stigma of mental health and thinking there is something wrong with them.
 
2014-08-05 01:42:20 PM  
IIRC, the only change is that the age limit went from 23 to 26.

If you were going to shoot up your college, you'd probably do it by your sophomore year.
 
2014-08-05 01:43:08 PM  
Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication
 
2014-08-05 01:45:41 PM  

nocturnal001: More elitist crap from the left. "college" hmph, more like liberal indoctrination schools.

/Poes law


What my dad actually believes.
 
2014-08-05 01:45:48 PM  
He just wants all those kids and their parents to vote for him in the next election.
 
2014-08-05 01:48:26 PM  
Well, as a parent that is using this as we speak, I can promise you this was a good idea.
 
2014-08-05 01:55:43 PM  
I don't want to live in a world where Obama has the power to override the alpacas that talk about me whenever I turn my head to the left.
 
2014-08-05 01:55:48 PM  
Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need

I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.

Right?
 
2014-08-05 01:57:16 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need

I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.

Right?


If you believe this then I think it is you who needs some mental health treatment
 
2014-08-05 01:57:45 PM  
Last year, I contracted Ulcerative Colitis, which is a type of IBS. In the span of three weeks I lost ~40 pounds and all of my muscle mass. It took me three months to recover to the point where I was able to do things on my own with comfort. I did not have insurance on my own because I am still in college.

Thanks to Obamacare, I was able to stay on my Dad's insurance through his work place. I am also able to have a chance to get healthcare because pre-existing conditions are not discriminated against so harshly with the new law.

Without the PPACA (Obamacare), I would be crushed by medical debt, and unable to find or afford an insurance company that would take me because of a pre-existing condition I contracted through no fault of my own. (no one is sure how you get Ulcerative Colitis).

So, thanks Obama!
 
2014-08-05 01:59:39 PM  

AnonAmbientLight: Last year, I contracted Ulcerative Colitis, which is a type of IBS. In the span of three weeks I lost ~40 pounds and all of my muscle mass. It took me three months to recover to the point where I was able to do things on my own with comfort. I did not have insurance on my own because I am still in college.

Thanks to Obamacare, I was able to stay on my Dad's insurance through his work place. I am also able to have a chance to get healthcare because pre-existing conditions are not discriminated against so harshly with the new law.

Without the PPACA (Obamacare), I would be crushed by medical debt, and unable to find or afford an insurance company that would take me because of a pre-existing condition I contracted through no fault of my own. (no one is sure how you get Ulcerative Colitis).

So, thanks Obama!


Hi!  The GOP wanted me to call you and let you know that you are everything wrong with America, and that they look forward to repealing the law that has let you survive a disease without ruining your life!
 
2014-08-05 02:00:40 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need

I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.

Right?



They would support this, except that it's in  Obamacare (otherwise known as the conservative health care reform plan), and therefore it is bad.

Also, don't forget that the only policies the NRA cares about are policies that increase profits for the gun industry.  The only reason they ever bring up mental health care is in the wake of a mass shooting, to deflect people away from the idea that um, maybe we should think about regulating guns.
 
2014-08-05 02:00:54 PM  

born_yesterday: AnonAmbientLight: Last year, I contracted Ulcerative Colitis, which is a type of IBS. In the span of three weeks I lost ~40 pounds and all of my muscle mass. It took me three months to recover to the point where I was able to do things on my own with comfort. I did not have insurance on my own because I am still in college.

Thanks to Obamacare, I was able to stay on my Dad's insurance through his work place. I am also able to have a chance to get healthcare because pre-existing conditions are not discriminated against so harshly with the new law.

Without the PPACA (Obamacare), I would be crushed by medical debt, and unable to find or afford an insurance company that would take me because of a pre-existing condition I contracted through no fault of my own. (no one is sure how you get Ulcerative Colitis).

So, thanks Obama!

Hi!  The GOP wanted me to call you and let you know that you are everything wrong with America, and that they look forward to repealing the law that has let you survive a disease without ruining your life!


Also, go back to Russia you commie
 
2014-08-05 02:02:15 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication


I thought liberals where all pussies and hated guns?
 
2014-08-05 02:04:53 PM  
All Mike wanted was a Pepsi.
 
2014-08-05 02:06:36 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication


www.independentsentinel.com

i.telegraph.co.uk

Get a load of this guy.
 
2014-08-05 02:11:45 PM  
Treatment for mental illness is Obama's plan to eliinate a lot of incoming support for the tea party...study it out.
 
2014-08-05 02:21:55 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need

I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.

Right?


Right
 
2014-08-05 02:22:24 PM  
His evil knows no bounds.
 
2014-08-05 02:26:32 PM  
hardinparamedicAre all mass/serial killers creepy looking or do we associate people who look like mass/serial killers as being creepy? And what's up with the quote button? Can't get it to work.
 
2014-08-05 02:29:12 PM  
 
2014-08-05 02:29:14 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication


... as evidenced by the book-long list of citations you left with this post.

Conservatrolls posting gut feelings as fact without actual facts ftl
 
2014-08-05 02:53:08 PM  

Pincy: born_yesterday: AnonAmbientLight: Last year, I contracted Ulcerative Colitis, which is a type of IBS. In the span of three weeks I lost ~40 pounds and all of my muscle mass. It took me three months to recover to the point where I was able to do things on my own with comfort. I did not have insurance on my own because I am still in college.

Thanks to Obamacare, I was able to stay on my Dad's insurance through his work place. I am also able to have a chance to get healthcare because pre-existing conditions are not discriminated against so harshly with the new law.

Without the PPACA (Obamacare), I would be crushed by medical debt, and unable to find or afford an insurance company that would take me because of a pre-existing condition I contracted through no fault of my own. (no one is sure how you get Ulcerative Colitis).

So, thanks Obama!

Hi!  The GOP wanted me to call you and let you know that you are everything wrong with America, and that they look forward to repealing the law that has let you survive a disease without ruining your life!

Also, go back to Russia you commie


Jesus. At least the 12 year illegals coming to America aren't carried here by their Mommies and Daddies.

/seriously, thank you Obama. you have helped turned the tide of corporate nastiness in this country. we may not all be equal but at least the rich don't pee on our heads as much
 
2014-08-05 02:59:40 PM  
IMO mental health is more important than physic health.. What is the body without the mind??? If the mind is troubled, one neglects the body.

Mental health needs to be taken more seriously. Unhealthy adults unhealthy children make and the cycle continues
 
2014-08-05 03:02:09 PM  
This is how it should be. Guns don't just randomly hop into a hand and kill people. There's people with a motive to do harm to other people.

And why do so many people draw the line at mass shootings? Even without guns, there are people with untreated mental illness who are harming other people, and they don't need a gun to do it. Knives will do. So will bare hands. Verbal, emotional abuse given to others -- including friends and family. People that love them.

A reduction in mass shootings are always a good thing, but improving the mental health care in this country can improve the quality of life for many people who aren't quite at the point of using a gun to kill others.
 
2014-08-05 03:02:16 PM  

DownTheRabbitHole: IMO mental health is more important than physic health.. What is the body without the mind??? If the mind is troubled, one neglects the body.

Mental health needs to be taken more seriously. Unhealthy adults unhealthy children make and the cycle continues


Physical*^
 
2014-08-05 03:03:19 PM  

Weatherkiss: This is how it should be. Guns don't just randomly hop into a hand and kill people. There's people with a motive to do harm to other people.

And why do so many people draw the line at mass shootings? Even without guns, there are people with untreated mental illness who are harming other people, and they don't need a gun to do it. Knives will do. So will bare hands. Verbal, emotional abuse given to others -- including friends and family. People that love them.

A reduction in mass shootings are always a good thing, but improving the mental health care in this country can improve the quality of life for many people who aren't quite at the point of using a gun to kill others.


THIS. Words are weapons. Fists are weapons. Knives and blades are weapons. We can take all the weapons away but ultimately the troubled mind must be fixed before anything else!
 
2014-08-05 03:04:24 PM  

nyseattitude: Smeggy Smurf: Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication

I thought liberals where all pussies and hated guns?


You forgot, TINSTAAVC.

/never mind that Smeggy likes to fap to the day he gets to employ 2nd amendment solutions
 
2014-08-05 03:07:39 PM  

DownTheRabbitHole: THIS. Words are weapons. Fists are weapons. Knives and blades are weapons. We can take all the weapons away but ultimately the troubled mind must be fixed before anything else!


So many people (on both sides of the political spectrum) are willing to condemn individuals to a lifetime of untreated mental illness, which can be focused externally onto their friends, family, co-workers, pets, etc.

But as soon as the form of that untreated mental illness takes the shape of mass shootings, that's where the line is drawn. It's heart-breaking.
 
2014-08-05 03:45:36 PM  
Isn't it JUST like the government to spend money on the promotion of the general welfare of the country?  So unconstitutional!
 
2014-08-05 04:13:53 PM  
And this tag line is obviously some subby that has a hard on for flame wars.
 
2014-08-05 04:20:09 PM  

Tomahawk513: nocturnal001: More elitist crap from the left. "college" hmph, more like liberal indoctrination schools.

/Poes law

What my dad actually believes.


I knew a guy once who said that college was liberal indoctrination because they teach "liberal arts".  He was a medical doctor.

Basically, if you get sick or injured and you're in rural Illinois, try your best to find a hospital across the state border in any direction.
 
2014-08-05 04:49:58 PM  

Skink Wrangler: Car_Ramrod: Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need

I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.

Right?

Right


Just like they pushed so hard for sex ed and birth control as a way to reduce abortions.
 
2014-08-05 04:57:16 PM  

BMFPitt: IIRC, the only change is that the age limit went from 23 to 26.

If you were going to shoot up your college, you'd probably do it by your sophomore year.


Try 18.  Some went up to 21, but those were premium plans.  The vast majority of kids go from being treated like complete children who can't and shouldn't make choices about their lives, to being considered complete adults, culpable for all of their decisions and assumed to be capable of making good ones.

This was one realm in which that was the case and I'm really glad it's not anymore.  Most of the people I went to college with had no health insurance at all, and if they got sick they went to the clinic and got tylenol and tussin.  If it was bad enough they got sent to urgent care (usually against their wishes) and their parents would have to foot a stupidly large bill even though they have insurance.

Mental Healthcare aside, this one small change will have huge public health implications.
 
2014-08-05 05:11:44 PM  

BeesNuts: Try 18.  Some went up to 21, but those were premium plans.  The vast majority of kids go from being treated like complete children who can't and shouldn't make choices about their lives, to being considered complete adults, culpable for all of their decisions and assumed to be capable of making good ones.

This was one realm in which that was the case and I'm really glad it's not anymore.  Most of the people I went to college with had no health insurance at all, and if they got sick they went to the clinic and got tylenol and tussin.  If it was bad enough they got sent to urgent care (usually against their wishes) and their parents would have to foot a stupidly large bill even though they have insurance.

Mental Healthcare aside, this one small change will have huge public health implications.


I'm pretty sure I was on my parents' plan until I graduated at 23.  I remember having to get some extra paperwork from my school after 22.

I don't think I ever used it, but I remember the paperwork.
 
2014-08-05 05:17:13 PM  

BeesNuts: BMFPitt: IIRC, the only change is that the age limit went from 23 to 26.

If you were going to shoot up your college, you'd probably do it by your sophomore year.

Try 18.  Some went up to 21, but those were premium plans.  The vast majority of kids go from being treated like complete children who can't and shouldn't make choices about their lives, to being considered complete adults, culpable for all of their decisions and assumed to be capable of making good ones.

This was one realm in which that was the case and I'm really glad it's not anymore.  Most of the people I went to college with had no health insurance at all, and if they got sick they went to the clinic and got tylenol and tussin.  If it was bad enough they got sent to urgent care (usually against their wishes) and their parents would have to foot a stupidly large bill even though they have insurance.

Mental Healthcare aside, this one small change will have huge public health implications.


I got kicked off my mom's insurance when I turned 22. Haven't had insurance since then (I'm 30, been working in restaurants till last year when I got my EMT license). I finally got a job that offers insurance, but the enrollment period was up before my probationary period so I didn't qualify (but from what my coworkers say, it's a shiat policy anyway), and thanks to Haslam refusing the Medicaid expansion in TN I couldn't afford to get a plan on the exchange. Hopefully I'll be starting a new job before the fall enrollment period and can finally get insurance. I can't wait to be able to go to a doctor when I get sick instead of relying on gatorade, cough syrup, and caffeine to power through it.
 
2014-08-05 07:15:26 PM  

Dingfod: There's no college attendance requirement to qualify for coverage under the ACA. I think the government had already dropped that requirement even before Obama got elected; my employer dropped that requirement about a decade ago.




In 2009 and I think 2010 I had to try and maintain student status to stay covered under my parent's insurance.

I forget when exactly that changed, but, it wasn't before Obama was elected.
 
2014-08-05 10:00:21 PM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Smeggy Smurf: Keep in mind that the school shooters have consistently been left wing kooks on medication

... as evidenced by the book-long list of citations you left with this post.

Conservatrolls posting gut feelings as fact without actual facts ftl


Hey, if it feels truthy, it IS truthy!
 
2014-08-05 10:51:57 PM  
if more people get me

Car_Ramrod: Under Obamacare, college kids can stay on their parents' insurance and get mental health care they need
I would think all conservatives would be cheering this. Every time there's a mass shooting (so like once a week or whatever), and someone makes the faux pas of suggesting gun regulations, the response is, "WE SHOULD BE TREATING THE ROOT CAUSES INSTEAD, FASCIST GUN GRABBER!!!!" So here we are, trying to treat the root causes. I trust all our friends on the right are applauding this.
Right?


Silly. If more people get mental health treatment, they will buy fewer guns, thus endangering our 2nd amendment rights. The only way to keep these important rights is to use them. Every single citizen should have at least one gun--that is what "well-regulated" means.
 
2014-08-06 04:24:02 AM  

glmorrs1: I can't wait to be able to go to a doctor when I get sick instead of relying on gatorade, cough syrup, and caffeine to power through it.


Yeah, it's much better to have a highly trained medical professional  tell you to drink gatorade and take cough syrup...
 
2014-08-06 04:59:49 AM  

dbirchall: glmorrs1: I can't wait to be able to go to a doctor when I get sick instead of relying on gatorade, cough syrup, and caffeine to power through it.

Yeah, it's much better to have a highly trained medical professional  tell you to drink gatorade and take cough syrup...


What if it turns out to be lupus?
 
2014-08-06 08:27:59 AM  

dbirchall: glmorrs1: I can't wait to be able to go to a doctor when I get sick instead of relying on gatorade, cough syrup, and caffeine to power through it.

Yeah, it's much better to have a highly trained medical professional  tell you to drink gatorade and take cough syrup...


Gatorade will give you diarrhea.
 
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