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(Reuters)   After cutting about 60% of its work force over the past three years, BlackBerry says it's now a thing again, and is ready to go head-to-head with the iPhone 4   (reuters.com) divider line 118
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2014-08-05 09:31:53 AM  
Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.
 
2014-08-05 01:14:40 PM  
+1
 
2014-08-05 01:15:14 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-05 01:16:47 PM  
great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone
 
2014-08-05 01:16:59 PM  
All the big companies keep firing everyone, nobody will be able to afford to buy anything.
 
2014-08-05 01:17:48 PM  
You mean install a faulty antennae and then tell everyone they are holding it wrong?
 
2014-08-05 01:17:59 PM  
Turds are things too.
 
2014-08-05 01:18:00 PM  

Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.


RIM is a perfect example of a high tech company resting on it's laurels while others do all the innovation.
 
2014-08-05 01:18:03 PM  
There needs to be a way for companies to die peacefully, without the endless suffering. Take them for a walk, then to the park to play, then to the bank where they get the red needle treatment.
 
2014-08-05 01:19:51 PM  

Russ1642: There needs to be a way for companies to die peacefully, without the endless suffering. Take them for a walk, then to the park to play, then to the bank where they get the red needle treatment.


And maybe a meal at McDonald's.
 
2014-08-05 01:20:34 PM  
Just in time for Blackberry to make another tablet that will lack the basic useful features.
 
2014-08-05 01:20:48 PM  

Flappyhead: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

RIM is a perfect example of a high tech company resting on it's laurels while others do all the innovation.


I would say they rested on their laurels for too long and the past 5 years have then been trying to innovate things that nobody wants. Heres a phone that your employer buys and has full access to! They'll give it to you and you will have no privacy from your employer on it, but hey its a company phone!
 
2014-08-05 01:21:57 PM  
All they need now is a retail partnership with Radio Shack, and they'll be back on top in no time.
 
2014-08-05 01:22:44 PM  
There is no way they can compete with the iPhone and their hip new headphones.
 
2014-08-05 01:23:18 PM  

Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.


Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.
 
2014-08-05 01:23:45 PM  

derpes_simplex: All they need now is a retail partnership with Radio Shack, and they'll be back on top in no time.


You do realize that Radio Shack sells a shiat ton of cell phones.
 
2014-08-05 01:24:03 PM  
I snegroe'd...
 
2014-08-05 01:24:41 PM  

theflatline: derpes_simplex: All they need now is a retail partnership with Radio Shack, and they'll be back on top in no time.

You do realize that Radio Shack sells a shiat ton of cell phones.


And how could BlackBerry fail when their product is positioned right beside some other manufacturers' inferior phones?
 
2014-08-05 01:25:19 PM  

John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.


I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.
 
2014-08-05 01:27:09 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: All the big companies keep firing everyone, nobody will be able to afford to buy anything.


But Bit'O'Gristle, imagine the profits that can be made with no payroll to drag the company down.  !!!!
 
2014-08-05 01:27:18 PM  
How......how is this company making any money??
I get that once upon a time they were huge in corporate america and the government sector.  But there are now solutions that will cover these entities and allow them to do what Blackberry did.

I swear this is the company that won't die.
 
2014-08-05 01:28:41 PM  
Blackberry has the worst auto correct set up in the world.  My BB constantly changes words to "nonwords" and then underlines them in red to indicate it is spelled wrong/is a non word.

If I didn't get my smart phone for free from my employer I would dump BB toot sweet.

/I know, I shouldn't complain - its a free phone
 
2014-08-05 01:29:55 PM  

Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.


So wanting something that is dependable and does what I want and need it to do without a lot of bs that people have been brainwashed into thinking they can't live without makes me a Luddite?

well, ok then.
 
2014-08-05 01:30:37 PM  
Blackberry:  Create a secure communications and messaging system.  Sell to the corporations and the government and be happy with that market share.

Back when they were super pagers, ever Lt Col and above had to have one on their belt even if they didn't know what it did.  IIRC Blackberry had their own servers on base and could sanitize their receivers remotely whenever an errant message moved from the classified to the unclassified system.  Which was often.
 
2014-08-05 01:31:26 PM  

johndalek: great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone


Just do yourself a favor and get an Android.

I remember back in the day before Smartphones were all the hotness.  In the office, everyone had a Blackberry.  It was the perfect solution to email on the go.  Even in the office I work in today, many people STILL use a Blackberry for that very reason.  In fact, that's the only reason they use it.
I remember people being so proud of some of the apps that the Blackberry could run.  "And check out this touchscreen!!1!!"

But considering that Smartphones can handle all of that, plus more, and better, business has moved away.  Follwing the analytics on a bunch of sites I run, I see Blackberries about 2% of the time.  They exist.  But not much.

I would LOVE to see how they intend to compete now.  The developer base, which is absolutely essential, has totally gone Android.  Except the rich people that still develop for iPhone.  So no matter how spiffy their new device is, if you have no one developing apps for it, they are not going to get much market share at all.
 
2014-08-05 01:31:28 PM  

John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.


I used BB for a decade.  The iphone I now use has the same email and enterprise service functions, long battery life. and aps that even you might find useful.  Such as: Sigalerts, Pandora, and Slacker.  I even have a guitar tuner app which is....nice.
 
2014-08-05 01:33:04 PM  

John the Magnificent: Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.

So wanting something that is dependable and does what I want and need it to do without a lot of bs that people have been brainwashed into thinking they can't live without makes me a Luddite?

well, ok then.


Moto X, I get three days of battery life out it, it is easy to use, almost pure android.   I usually it for email, playing songs on the jukebox at the bar, and on the odd occasion GPS.

You can just customize the home screen with the three icons you want, and never have to see/use anything else on the phone.
 
2014-08-05 01:34:04 PM  

John the Magnificent: Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.

So wanting something that is dependable and does what I want and need it to do without a lot of bs that people have been brainwashed into thinking they can't live without makes me a Luddite?

well, ok then.


Your thinking that BBs are dependable and everything else isn't is what makes you a Luddite. Thinking that BBs are BS free, well, that's just insane
 
2014-08-05 01:34:39 PM  
"Chen, who is well known for having turned around enterprise software maker Sybase Inc in the late 1990s,..."

And he did such a fine job that SAP/Sybase know has a whopping 4% market share and is struggling to survive.

No one can compete with Apple and Android right now. The two companies have market saturation at every imaginable price-point.
 
2014-08-05 01:40:25 PM  

durbnpoisn: johndalek: great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone

Just do yourself a favor and get an Android.


The nice thing about my old Android phone was the battery could be removed, which was helpful when the phone froze everyday..
 
2014-08-05 01:40:59 PM  
Do they still call them "Smart Phones" now that every idiot has one?
 
2014-08-05 01:43:07 PM  

shirtsbyeric: Do they still call them "Smart Phones" now that every idiot has one?


no they call them devices.
because they do an acceptable job at everything but making phone calls.
 
2014-08-05 01:44:11 PM  

rockforever: Flappyhead: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

RIM is a perfect example of a high tech company resting on it's laurels while others do all the innovation.

I would say they rested on their laurels for too long and the past 5 years have then been trying to innovate things that nobody wants. Heres a phone that your employer buys and has full access to! They'll give it to you and you will have no privacy from your employer on it, but hey its a company phone!


Who the hell uses a company phone for personal stuff?
 
2014-08-05 01:44:47 PM  
I'm browsing this thread on my Z10.

It's awesome.
 
2014-08-05 01:48:20 PM  
They're switching all the Blackberrys to Samsung S4's here. The worst part is they're sending the damn
"Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S®4." as a signature on every single friggin email.
 
2014-08-05 01:51:49 PM  
Ah I remember when Blackberry was all the rage and we needed to make our Exchange server jump through hoops to get everything to sync properly. Then the CEO got an iPhone and everything Blackberry was rendered obsolete. It was like one of those TFers/Liters pictures.
 
2014-08-05 01:52:55 PM  
Blackberry is like Palm Inc with deeper pockets to prolong its death
 
2014-08-05 01:54:38 PM  

theflatline: You mean install a faulty antennae and then tell everyone they are holding it wrong?


When Apple offered a full refund, guess what percentage of people jumped at the chance to get rid of their "faulty" iPhone? Less than 1%. Very few people were having any problems at all. Paid shills and brainwashed iHaters made this into a much bigger deal than it was in reality.
 
2014-08-05 01:54:56 PM  
Are they still milking the Obama loves his Blackberry thing?

/He was probably talking about something else.
 
2014-08-05 01:55:13 PM  

Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.


Idk the most profitable farmers are the Amish who use horses and no fuel costs. Make money hand over fist
 
2014-08-05 01:58:06 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.

Idk the most profitable farmers are the Amish who use horses and no fuel costs. Make money hand over fist


Chinese slave labour shops are profitable too.
 
2014-08-05 01:59:20 PM  

styckx: Blackberry is like Palm Inc with deeper pockets to prolong its death


I was always impressed with Blackberry in that they had a singular drive to provide a product that was very good for one purpose.  They failed to stay up with the times which is how they faltered.  I believe they're a better intentioned company than apple or google are these days though so I hope they're able to innovate and stay in business.
 
2014-08-05 02:03:34 PM  

tarheel07: durbnpoisn: johndalek: great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone

Just do yourself a favor and get an Android.

The nice thing about my old Android phone was the battery could be removed, which was helpful when the phone froze everyday..


That's a bit snarky, and a bit true at the same time.

I have a two-year old LG.  And yeah, it freezes once in a while.  But among the rest of the family with a Samsung tablet, a Sophix table, a Samsung 4, and an LG-2, they never lock up.  Ever.  None of them can swap a battery.  But there is no need to since they never lock up.

So what you say is true, at one time.  But I think they have overcome those glitches.
 
2014-08-05 02:04:03 PM  

Russ1642: There needs to be a way for companies to die peacefully, without the endless suffering. Take them for a walk, then to the park to play, then to the bank where they get the red needle treatment.


what if they are too big to fail?
 
2014-08-05 02:04:43 PM  

Russ1642: Duke_leto_Atredes: Russ1642: John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.

I take it you also ride a horse and think the horseless carriages are just dumb.

Idk the most profitable farmers are the Amish who use horses and no fuel costs. Make money hand over fist

Chinese slave labour shops are profitable too.


Look at the pyramids, slave labor gets shiat done.
 
2014-08-05 02:05:16 PM  

durbnpoisn: johndalek: great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone

Just do yourself a favor and get an Android.


If you own a company and want to keep help desk calls down avoid getting a fleet of android phones for everyone. Not only that but Android is about as secure as a bucket with a hole in the bottom.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/09/data-wipe-recovery-smartphones/

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/29/android-fake-id-fl aw -google-patch


Don't get me wrong android is great for kids and people who just want a phone so they can do everything under the sun to it but that platform is not business ready in any sense of the word and if I was an IT security professional advising C-level execs I would advise them to stay miles away. I manage phones for a Fortune 500 company and for all company issued devices we went from Blackberry to iPhones about 4 years ago and never looked back. We also do BYOD so if people really want to use their own personal device they can hook up an iphone/iPad or an Android phone/tablet. Overall it has worked really well. All of it is run through Mobileiron which is probably one of the best mobile device management tools on the market. Sure I may not have all the robust logging capabilities that a BES server had but it works just as well.

I think between iOS 8 and the new rumored larger screen iPhones coming out in rumor September/October I think we will get a few Android die hards to switch back to the iPhone.
 
2014-08-05 02:05:42 PM  
Oh yeah, I'm so ready.
zagg-blog.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-08-05 02:08:11 PM  

John the Magnificent: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

Yup.  Perfect for an old fart like me who needs a phone, wants access to e-mail, couldn't give a damn about apps that tell me what the Kardashians are up to in real time, and loves watching Androids and i-Phoneys running around looking for places to plug in.

Keep it simple, basic and reliable.


Is that what you think apps do? Your mind is crusty.
 
2014-08-05 02:09:49 PM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: durbnpoisn: johndalek: great--i want my blackberry back--hate this iphone

Just do yourself a favor and get an Android.

If you own a company and want to keep help desk calls down avoid getting a fleet of android phones for everyone. Not only that but Android is about as secure as a bucket with a hole in the bottom.

http://mashable.com/2014/07/09/data-wipe-recovery-smartphones/

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/29/android-fake-id-fl aw -google-patch


Don't get me wrong android is great for kids and people who just want a phone so they can do everything under the sun to it but that platform is not business ready in any sense of the word and if I was an IT security professional advising C-level execs I would advise them to stay miles away. I manage phones for a Fortune 500 company and for all company issued devices we went from Blackberry to iPhones about 4 years ago and never looked back. We also do BYOD so if people really want to use their own personal device they can hook up an iphone/iPad or an Android phone/tablet. Overall it has worked really well. All of it is run through Mobileiron which is probably one of the best mobile device management tools on the market. Sure I may not have all the robust logging capabilities that a BES server had but it works just as well.

I think between iOS 8 and the new rumored larger screen iPhones coming out in rumor September/October I think we will get a few Android die hards to switch back to the iPhone.


That's probably the most compelling argument that I've heard for the Blackberry.  And by all accounts, I would have to agree.

Perhaps THAT will be where they can stay competative.
Perhaps that's why so many business people still have them, even though, for other reasons, they are pretty obsolete.
 
2014-08-05 02:11:11 PM  

foo monkey: rockforever: Flappyhead: Generation_D: Various non smart phones they made were pretty good low power drain email only phones back in the day.

And that day is completely over with.

RIM is a perfect example of a high tech company resting on it's laurels while others do all the innovation.

I would say they rested on their laurels for too long and the past 5 years have then been trying to innovate things that nobody wants. Heres a phone that your employer buys and has full access to! They'll give it to you and you will have no privacy from your employer on it, but hey its a company phone!

Who the hell uses a company phone for personal stuff?


This little group called EVERYONE. If we people were at work all day doing what they were supposed to we would have to make things NSFW.
 
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