bobothemagnificent: The most important lesson everyone can take away from Nixon:Don't get caught.
Jackson Herring: ronaldus magnus reagan, a great man who once wished that protesting the war in vietnam should be punishable by death
mayIFark: Stop blaming Nixon, it was not his fault, he was a republican.
sprawl15: bobothemagnificent: The most important lesson everyone can take away from Nixon:Don't get caught.that lesson was superseded by the bush administration's lesson:write a really big legal document explaining how even if what you're doing is illegal, it's still not illegal
bobothemagnificent: My biggest problem with all of that could have been fixed by simply making them illegal combatants. IIRC, illegal combatants are equal to spies in the Geneva Convention- no rights, no trials, nothing.
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bobothemagnificent: IIRC, illegal combatants are equal to spies in the Geneva Convention- no rights, no trials, nothing.
Cubicle Jockey: bobothemagnificent: IIRC, illegal combatants are equal to spies in the Geneva Convention- no rights, no trials, nothing.You recall incorrectly.Convention (IV) respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land and its annex: Regulations concerning the Laws and Customs of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.Art. 30. A spy taken in the act shall not be punished without previous trial.Spies are handled differently then uniformed troops. For obvious reasons, they do not get the right to communicate.A lot of the cunfusion people have on this subject is that the stuff with spies dates to 1949, so all the WW2 films that showed summary execution were accurate, but this is no longer the case.
flynn80: Heard it on the JRE but has anyone else seen that just about everyone involved with the Star Wars program died, many under mysterious circumstances?
BMulligan: Reagan farked up the country beyond recognition and W was a disaster of historic proportions, but for sheer, unmitigated evil, I hope I don't live to see the likes of Nixon ever again.
quatchi: FTFA: The evidence, allegedly, included forged cables meant to frame John F. Kennedy for the assassination of South Vietnam's president Ngo Dinh Diem; a spy dossier on Ted Kennedy; and a memo on Hunt's meetings with a lobbyist linked to bribes paid to Nixon by International Telephone & Telegraph. Reporters unearthed a new private treasury of $600,000 to finance dirty tricks-like the thousands of copies of the Washington Post the White House bought, then shredded, to fake votes in a poll on whether or not the president was doing the right thing in Vietnam.Nixon, you dolt!Wow, I'd almost forgotten what a bastard Nixon was but that article brought a lot of it back.FTFA: "They did something that was stupid and foolish and was criminal"- then corrected himself: "It was illegal. Illegal is a better word than criminal because I think criminal has a different connotation." He said, "The tragedy of this is that men who are not criminals at heart" had to suffer. It saddened him "that now there is going to have to be punishment."Luckily by the time Reagan got into office he'd figured out how to commit criminal, excuse me, illegal acts without having any kind of serious consequences so he had that going on for him.Reagan also stole a lot of his southern strategy schtick from Nixon who himself stole it from George Wallace.
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