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(NJ.com)   Harley Davidson on Sunday drive crashes into '68 Ford Mustang in what police are calling the "most midlife crisis collision" ever   (nj.com) divider line 59
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2014-08-05 09:02:02 AM  
Police kept the road closed for six hours just to sweep up all the hairplugs
 
2014-08-05 11:19:16 AM  
Was going to say, "still cleaning up the cans of spray-on hair" but I think the above post did it better.
 
2014-08-05 11:43:32 AM  
Harleys aren't for midlife crises anymore. The people I see riding them are in their sixties.
 
2014-08-05 11:43:58 AM  

SmackLT: Police kept the road closed for six hours just to sweep up all the hairplugs


If your road is closed for longer than 4 hours, please seek medical attention.
 
2014-08-05 11:44:09 AM  
Well now, Sonny, since I am 67 and hoping like hell this is midlife, I am getting a kick out of,
 
2014-08-05 11:45:02 AM  

tricycleracer: SmackLT: Police kept the road closed for six hours just to sweep up all the hairplugs

If your road is closed for longer than 4 hours, please seek medical attention.


Some back roads need plowin', just sayin'.
 
2014-08-05 11:45:25 AM  
I've been thinking about building out a 67 Mustang Fastback. Is that one of the symptoms? God damn it.

/ have a gt500 mustcang shelby
 
2014-08-05 11:46:26 AM  
It's not THAT much of a midlife crisis collision. It could have been worse. They could have had 20 year old girlfriends on their respective vehicles. The motorcycle guy sounds like he's still on his first wife.
 
2014-08-05 11:48:42 AM  
My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.
 
2014-08-05 11:48:42 AM  
Unpossible because loud pipes save lives.

/ and make the world just that little bit more shiatty
 
2014-08-05 11:49:58 AM  

Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.


I'd think more people sell their bikes when they start a family. You know, so their kid doesn't become an orphan.
 
2014-08-05 11:54:54 AM  

Nick Nostril: Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.

I'd think more people sell their bikes when they start a family. You know, so their kid doesn't become an orphan.


Or whatever other reason their wives make them say?
 
2014-08-05 11:56:11 AM  
I have been riding my Harley since I was 27 and am now 63, so I guess my mid life crisis happened when I was 27.
 
2014-08-05 11:58:36 AM  
I saw an aging guido in a yellow Corvette the other day.  Fake tan, wrap-around sunglasses, the works.  I didnt have the heart to tell him the 80s have been over for 30 years.
 
2014-08-05 11:59:13 AM  
Article failed to mention Brad Cialis, 50, was in his Miata, driving by at the time of the accident, and stopped to pull the victims to safety. Used his Tommy Bahama shirt to stop the bleeding of one of the injured.
 
2014-08-05 12:01:47 PM  

Nick Nostril: Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.

I'd think more people sell their bikes when they start a family. You know, so their kid doesn't become an orphan.


No kidding. Buying a bike WHEN you just had a kid screams passive-aggressive rejection of responsibility, regret of life choices, and being in denial of the end of his former carefree lifestyle.
 
2014-08-05 12:02:54 PM  

wiseolddude: I have been riding my Harley since I was 27 and am now 63, so I guess my mid life crisis happened when I was 27.


Oh my god!!!  You died 9 years ago.  Were you awrae of that?...
 
2014-08-05 12:03:58 PM  
The only thing this story needs is a douchebag driving an Official Harley Davidson Edition F150 truck. You know, with the orange pinstripes, and the extra chrome, and the Harley Davidson metal plate festooned to the truck's hood. Plus, for a limited time, Bob Hossler Chrysler Ford Nissan is offering a free fashion-weight black leather vest with the purchase of a Harley Davidson F150!
 
2014-08-05 12:09:43 PM  
In the last 5 years, I've started paying attention to the people driving sports cars and 90% of them are single ladies in their mid-40s. I work with one, who made the conclusion, "Well, I've got money and I don't want to look like a soccer mom so now that just leaves sports cars."
 
2014-08-05 12:11:50 PM  
Too hell with the people, how badly damaged was the car?
 
2014-08-05 12:14:43 PM  

cgraves67: No kidding. Buying a bike WHEN you just had a kid screams passive-aggressive rejection of responsibility, regret of life choices, and being in denial of the end of his former carefree lifestyle.


Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.
 
2014-08-05 12:14:50 PM  
I have a 65 Mustang, a Road King and a Harley F-150. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get the personalized license plate I wanted because there are too many letters in "Summer's Eve".
 
2014-08-05 12:22:50 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: cgraves67: No kidding. Buying a bike WHEN you just had a kid screams passive-aggressive rejection of responsibility, regret of life choices, and being in denial of the end of his former carefree lifestyle.

Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.


Right. Because it invokes no cultural associations whatsoever.
 
2014-08-05 12:25:55 PM  

stuffy: Too hell with the people, how badly damaged was the car?


That's the first thing I thought too.
 
2014-08-05 12:30:06 PM  

Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.


Make sure that he has plenty of life insurance so to take care of that baby after he's done what most idiots that get motorcycles for stupid reasons like this... which is end up under a car, wrapped around a post or splatted on a brick wall, or any other way that he'll probably end up.

Seriously, he sounds like a prime example of why motorcycles get a bad rap and increases in bike related mortality statistics.
 
2014-08-05 12:30:49 PM  

wiseolddude: I have been riding my Harley since I was 27 and am now 63, so I guess my mid life crisis happened when I was 27.


Got one of these in '74 when I was 12.  Still love and ride my HD.  Can't stand most "bikers".

www.aermacchi-world.de
 
2014-08-05 12:33:44 PM  

Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.


I bought my first bike when I was 43.  I was accused of having a midlife crisis but it was nothing more than I always wanted a bike and I had finally bought a home and had a garage to keep one in.

/that was mid-2008 and I now have over 150,000 miles on bikes
//on my 4th and 5th bikes out of 7
 
2014-08-05 12:36:52 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.


If you think that motorcycle are something to get because they are "fun"... well.. let me try to put it in layman's terms:

They are a mode of transportation, and are quite serious machines and idiots don't/can't understand that fact

Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.

The fact is that motorcycles are basically an very powerful engine strapped to wheels and you're sitting in this contraption and a single small mistake can cost you your life.


/over 25 years of riding
 
2014-08-05 12:38:49 PM  

cgraves67: Right. Because it invokes no cultural associations whatsoever.


Sure it does, but those associations are at best secondary motivators. People rarely spend quite so much money on things they don't truly enjoy or get such a high level of personal fulfillment out of.
 
2014-08-05 12:40:14 PM  

ph0rk: Or whatever other reason their wives make them say?


Odd, my wife is the one that insisted that I get another bike (as I no longer had one at the time that I met her), so that I could get to work and back easier.

But she knows how I am, how I drive, and that I care about life and wouldn't put myself at risk.
 
2014-08-05 12:46:19 PM  

imfallen_angel: If you think that motorcycle are something to get because they are "fun"... well.. let me try to put it in layman's terms:

They are a mode of transportation, and are quite serious machines and idiots don't/can't understand that fact

Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.

The fact is that motorcycles are basically an very powerful engine strapped to wheels and you're sitting in this contraption and a single small mistake can cost you your life.


/over 25 years of riding


Thank you, up until now I had no idea what a motorcycle was or how it worked, your pedantic assumptions have made me see the light.
 
2014-08-05 12:47:53 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: Sure it does, but those associations are at best secondary motivators. People rarely spend quite so much money on things they don't truly enjoy or get such a high level of personal fulfillment out of.


Lol. Sure, the personal fulfilment in his case comes from being able to say "sure, I may be 30 and have a kid, but I'm still a cool guy who's free to do what he wants". If you think people buy consumer goods for what they do, rather than what they symbolise then you should probably talk to someone who works in advertising.

Harley Davidson is a case in point. Poorly engineered, over-priced motorcycles that the buyers think say "I'm a rebel".
 
2014-08-05 01:03:43 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: Thank you, up until now I had no idea what a motorcycle was or how it worked, your pedantic assumptions have made me see the light.


Well, no disrespect here, and I hate to say it, but from your multiple posts, you are coming off as clueless about many things.
 
2014-08-05 01:08:38 PM  

imfallen_angel: Okie_Gunslinger: Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.

If you think that motorcycle are something to get because they are "fun"... well.. let me try to put it in layman's terms:

They are a mode of transportation, and are quite serious machines and idiots don't/can't understand that fact

Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.

The fact is that motorcycles are basically an very powerful engine strapped to wheels and you're sitting in this contraption and a single small mistake can cost you your life.


/over 25 years of riding


SeriousCat.jpg
 
2014-08-05 01:11:57 PM  
Viagra and rogaine everywhere...
 
2014-08-05 02:21:46 PM  

Okie_Gunslinger: cgraves67: No kidding. Buying a bike WHEN you just had a kid screams passive-aggressive rejection of responsibility, regret of life choices, and being in denial of the end of his former carefree lifestyle.

Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.


nah...can't be that. Has to be the extended dimestore psychoanalysis that Farkers love to shovel.

It could also be that upon having a kid he realized in the coming years there will be a lot of pressures placed on his disposable income (whatever the hell that is) and he rightfully understood it was literally now or never...it gets harder and harder to piss away $12 grand on a bike when the kid needs braces or college fund funding.
 
2014-08-05 02:22:48 PM  

imfallen_angel: Okie_Gunslinger: Or you know motorcycle could just be a lot of fun to ride.

If you think that motorcycle are something to get because they are "fun"... well.. let me try to put it in layman's terms:

They are a mode of transportation, and are quite serious machines and idiots don't/can't understand that fact

Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.

The fact is that motorcycles are basically an very powerful engine strapped to wheels and you're sitting in this contraption and a single small mistake can cost you your life.


/over 25 years of riding


yea whatever gramps...hold my beer and let me show you this AWESOME wheelie I just thought of.

/what what?
 
2014-08-05 02:31:49 PM  

cgraves67: Nick Nostril: Crudbucket: My best friend just bought his first motorcycle. I asked him whether it was because he just turned 30 or because he just had a child. He admitted it was a little bit of both. I can't judge, I was seized by an overwhelming desire to buy an electric guitar the week before my 30th birthday. It's still in the closet.

I'd think more people sell their bikes when they start a family. You know, so their kid doesn't become an orphan.

No kidding. Buying a bike WHEN you just had a kid screams passive-aggressive rejection of responsibility, regret of life choices, and being in denial of the end of his former carefree lifestyle.


Hi... are you my 1st wife??   You sound just like her....
 
2014-08-05 02:34:39 PM  

imfallen_angel: Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.


This right here.  I was taught to ride by my uncle.  He was a complete asshole but he left me with on little gem that I often am glad to have learned.

"Every time you throw your leg over you should feel a little twinge of fear.  If you don't get off,sit down and stare it it until you do.  The moment you think you have complete mastery of a bike is the moment it will kill you."

If bikes were sentient they would be little gods of chaos.  They may be benevolent for years, but then at the one crucial moment they would turn on you.

~30 years of riding.
 
2014-08-05 02:44:32 PM  

fst_creeper: imfallen_angel: Yes, they can be extremely fun to ride, but they are an instant death machine for anyone that doesn't respect them.

This right here.  I was taught to ride by my uncle.  He was a complete asshole but he left me with on little gem that I often am glad to have learned.

"Every time you throw your leg over you should feel a little twinge of fear.  If you don't get off,sit down and stare it it until you do.   The moment you think you have complete mastery of a bike is the moment it will kill you."

If bikes were sentient they would be little gods of chaos.  They may be benevolent for years, but then at the one crucial moment they would turn on you.

~30 years of riding.


Yup, that is an absolute perfect sentence... you can switch "bike" to just about any machine, especially cars.

I refuse to consider myself a great driver/rider for that fact, I never want to be so "comfortable" and self-assured that I can't believe anything going wrong.

My father who was a darn good driver got too comfy, and when he dropped the ashes of his cigarette while driving, he lot the wheel go and jumped around trying to get it before he got burnt.  Had I not been sitting passenger and able to grab the wheel and turn it, we probably wouldn't have survived it (in a curve on top of a very steep hill leading to a highway, we would have smashed through a side-gate and be airborne for a good 30-40 feet high onto a parking lot).

I learned two things that day.  Never get so comfortable with your driving that you think that you can't make mistakes, and never smoke and drive (which while I don't smoke anyways I will NOT be passenger to a smoker that can't handle the driving time without lighting up.  I banned my wife (when she still smoked) from ever driving and smoking at the same time.  It's as stupid as the whole texting thing.  I've seen/read about quite a few accident due to cigarettes.
 
2014-08-05 02:45:17 PM  
lot = let
 
2014-08-05 02:56:19 PM  

asmodeus224: nah...can't be that. Has to be the extended dimestore psychoanalysis that Farkers love to shovel.

It could also be that upon having a kid he realized in the coming years there will be a lot of pressures placed on his disposable income (whatever the hell that is) and he rightfully understood it was literally now or never...it gets harder and harder to piss away $12 grand on a bike when the kid needs braces or college fund funding.


funny.. someone you think you know better?

so, how many kids, how many bikes have you had so far oh wise one?

You want "fun".. get (or rent) a dirt bike, proper gear and padding) and go nuts in the countryside and get that middle-age crisis rush out of your system.

Or go to a local drag strip and rent a racer (or buy a off-road cheap machine with trailer), and have your fun under a controlled environment with proper personnel to assist when you drop.. make sure you take the extra insurance.

All the idiots that I've seen "having fun" on the streets, are the ones that as some point either

- crash and die (or handicapped for life)
- crash and survived and learned to have respect for the machine and such
- are involved in causing an accident that they may or may not end up in.
- are still idiots, some move to cars or larger machine and start the cycle again (this list)

Anyone that goes with "now or never" attitude, only proves that he shouldn't be doing it.  But as long as they sign the organ donor card, and hopefully don't drag anyone else into it.
 
2014-08-05 02:58:58 PM  

asmodeus224: It could also be that upon having a kid he realized in the coming years there will be a lot of pressures placed on his disposable income (whatever the hell that is) and he rightfully understood it was literally now or never...it gets harder and harder to piss away $12 grand on a bike when the kid needs braces or college fund funding.


Sheesh.  Harley people.  $12K on a bike.
 
2014-08-05 03:39:47 PM  

imfallen_angel: asmodeus224: nah...can't be that. Has to be the extended dimestore psychoanalysis that Farkers love to shovel.

It could also be that upon having a kid he realized in the coming years there will be a lot of pressures placed on his disposable income (whatever the hell that is) and he rightfully understood it was literally now or never...it gets harder and harder to piss away $12 grand on a bike when the kid needs braces or college fund funding.

funny.. someone you think you know better?

so, how many kids, how many bikes have you had so far oh wise one?

You want "fun".. get (or rent) a dirt bike, proper gear and padding) and go nuts in the countryside and get that middle-age crisis rush out of your system.

Or go to a local drag strip and rent a racer (or buy a off-road cheap machine with trailer), and have your fun under a controlled environment with proper personnel to assist when you drop.. make sure you take the extra insurance.

All the idiots that I've seen "having fun" on the streets, are the ones that as some point either

- crash and die (or handicapped for life)
- crash and survived and learned to have respect for the machine and such
- are involved in causing an accident that they may or may not end up in.
- are still idiots, some move to cars or larger machine and start the cycle again (this list)

Anyone that goes with "now or never" attitude, only proves that he shouldn't be doing it.  But as long as they sign the organ donor card, and hopefully don't drag anyone else into it.


I have as many kids as I have bikes....one.

And really, you keep track of ALL the people on the streets you see 'having fun' that you can say so confidently that they ALL end up crippled, dead, dead and crippled or dead and crippled?

And I signed my organ donor card, know why? Cuz signing it or not doesn't mean jack shiat - i am confident in my ability to NOT die or NOT kill myself...you don't sound as confident. Maybe you should stay away from electric can openers, eh? Not all equipment are for all men, it's ok, you know your limits, so you will live forever.
 
2014-08-05 04:39:00 PM  

fireclown: $12K on a bike.


A decent newer model for many bikes will touch this range not just Harley.

asmodeus224: i am confident in my ability to NOT die or NOT kill myself.


Not to take the confrontational approach that  imfallen_angeland you have embarked on but while I have no intention in dying, I acknowledge that there is much is out of my control on the roads and things may kill me in spite of my best intentions. I wear gear because of this.  I don't squid out when riding.  I enjoy riding very much.  But I think what imfallen_angel is talking about is the when I hear people who see riding primarily as "fun" as their focus on the bikes, they do tend to not take it as seriously, aka squiding out and farking around in traffic.  If you want to squid out, go to the track, find the abandoned road (really abandoned vs lightly used) and therefore reduce the number of random encounters.
 
2014-08-05 05:02:35 PM  

fst_creeper: fireclown: $12K on a bike.

A decent newer model for many bikes will touch this range not just Harley.

asmodeus224: i am confident in my ability to NOT die or NOT kill myself.

Not to take the confrontational approach that  imfallen_angeland you have embarked on but while I have no intention in dying, I acknowledge that there is much is out of my control on the roads and things may kill me in spite of my best intentions. I wear gear because of this.  I don't squid out when riding.  I enjoy riding very much.  But I think what imfallen_angel is talking about is the when I hear people who see riding primarily as "fun" as their focus on the bikes, they do tend to not take it as seriously, aka squiding out and farking around in traffic.  If you want to squid out, go to the track, find the abandoned road (really abandoned vs lightly used) and therefore reduce the number of random encounters.


Pretty much this... but some have trouble understanding the difference in having fun, enjoying something, and being plain out stupid and believing themselves indestructible.
 
2014-08-05 05:21:36 PM  

asmodeus224: I have as many kids as I have bikes....one.

And really, you keep track of ALL the people on the streets you see 'having fun' that you can say so confidently that they ALL end up crippled, dead, dead and crippled or dead and crippled?

And I signed my organ donor card, know why? Cuz signing it or not doesn't mean jack shiat - i am confident in my ability to NOT die or NOT kill myself...you don't sound as confident. Maybe you should stay away from electric can openers, eh? Not all equipment are for all men, it's ok, you know your limits, so you will live forever.


Well, glad that you see this as a pissing contest.

First.. it's called knowing people, and then you hear from someone that this person died or got injured, or on the news, etc.  it's called noticing the bikes when they race back and forth on the same streets, you get to recognize them, and then you come across an accident and it is that very bike.  It's knowing someone that's childish, that you know had (HAD) a bike, and you talk to them asking where their bike is, and they say that they wrecked it, and show you their scars.

But with your (false) belief that you're all edgy and confident, etc.you're being quite childish... and sorry, I'm pretty darn sure that I'd outdo you in every possible way (probably have already), but I know that shiat happens and one stupid thing, regardless of my skills, could end up being a very bad time.

Let me know if you've actually done anything such as.. hmm... 40 feet jumps over construction ditches with a street bike. Me and the wife (who has MS) have had 5 children, one handicapped (high level non-speaking autism) and one bipolar. I'm still recovering from my cancer treatment from last week. I've had 5 bikes, had a few incidents thanks to sabotage (long story about this particular shop and their practices) and mechanical issues, other drivers, passengers, and overshooting a few times. So please go ahead, outdo me.

And I have to say, I would feel terrible but still laugh at the irony if I was to learn that you've ended up in an accident over your ego.

You should at least print this thread out so that your family have something to write on your tombstone: "I WAS confident in my ability to NOT die or NOT kill myself. Opps, I was wrong."

Seriously, you're another prime example of the type that probably will end up in a bad situation.  But you do sound pretty darn young, or at the very least, very immature.

You're funny, thanks for the giggles.
 
2014-08-05 05:30:56 PM  

imfallen_angel: believing themselves indestructible.


One oil slick that covers ~70% of your lane in a curve tends to solve that misapprehension.
 
2014-08-05 05:31:26 PM  

imfallen_angel: The moment you think you have complete mastery of a bike is the moment it will kill you."


One thing that just came to mind was a discussion I had with other riders/bikers.

The one thing that we (old timers, even when I was barely 20 by then) would talk about was the new bike owners and a very common thing that would be the number one reason for crashes and such, was the fact that many would simply just on their bikes and believed that they were already all edgy and amazing.

The one factor that we all shared was that all of us "old timers" had in common was that we all took time to learn about our bikes, get the feel of them, get used to them, like a wild stallion, we had to "tame" the beast until we were confident with it and could start pushing them more and more.

As most of us didn't have the disposable income to simply wreck bike after bike pushing to do stunts and thinking that we've been all edgy, we appreciated the bikes we had.  But dang, what I've done, and seen others do with their bikes makes some stunt-riders pretty tame.

For me, the same principle applies with cars, but heck, what do I know...
 
2014-08-05 05:34:05 PM  

fst_creeper: imfallen_angel: believing themselves indestructible.

One oil slick that covers ~70% of your lane in a curve tends to solve that misapprehension.


Sand did it for someone I know... he took a curse badly, didn't consider sand being all over the road, ended up meeting a wire fence very fast.. luckily he walked away, but no more bike after that (in both sense a) the bike was no more b) he learned that it was too easy to have shiat happen and gave up on bikes).

And that wasn't even while goofing off, just bad situation.
 
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