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(Politico)   The great fight within the Republican Party isn't Tea Party vs. Establishment. It's the grifting wing vs. governing wing. Bonus: Written by a former Republican Congresscritter   (politico.com ) divider line
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2014-08-04 11:20:48 AM  
Move along, just another self serving crock o zhit by someone who still has not realized that Divide and Conquer works both ways.
GOP, face it, you are going to have to rebrand from the "grass roots" up.

Ya'll do remember the "grass roots " from days gone by, eh?
 
2014-08-04 11:26:04 AM  
By STEVE LATOURETTE

Warning: Article is POOP full of BIATCH swear words and FARK offensive phrases. CRAP!
 
2014-08-04 11:39:15 AM  
Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.
 
2014-08-04 11:39:24 AM  
While full of truthy little gems, one thing should not escape anyone's notice:

"My unelected, outside political group is better than your unelected, outside political group."
 
2014-08-04 12:37:53 PM  
Who cares as long as they destroy each other
 
2014-08-04 01:02:54 PM  
What governing wing? Seriously, which wing is this? Does it have more than 3 people in it?
 
2014-08-04 01:35:38 PM  
Yeah, I am calling BS on the so called "governing wing".

There is no such wing.
 
2014-08-04 01:45:53 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Who cares as long as they destroy each other


Well, fine, except the lying, sociopaths have a job that needs doing.
Won't somebody please think about running the farking country!
 
2014-08-04 02:01:40 PM  
The Tea Party, though noble in their beliefs, is a Cancer upon the Republicans because of their actions and words. Again, on paper, it seems like a good idea, but it's members make it an undesirable mess.
 
2014-08-04 02:05:17 PM  
All I can say is, it could not happen to a better group of old fat, white guys.
 
2014-08-04 02:12:11 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-04 02:13:22 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: The Tea Party, though noble in their beliefs, is a Cancer upon the Republicans humanity because of their actions and words. Again, on paper, it seems like a good idea, but it's members make it an undesirable mess.


FTFY
 
2014-08-04 02:16:58 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.


I'm dying to know who you consider the Democratic equivalent of people like Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Andrew Breitbart, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Sean Hannity, Victoria Jackson, Jonah Goldberg, Ann Coulter, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
 
2014-08-04 02:18:47 PM  
Wonder how much he gets for heading the Main Street Partnership. Probably a cool half a million just like everyone else.

I love this GOP civil war.
 
2014-08-04 02:19:11 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.


Democrats point out when someone is crazy and generally stay away from them.

Republicans put them in positions of power.
 
2014-08-04 02:19:25 PM  
I can't read any article that begins with "The dictionary defines...".
 
2014-08-04 02:19:47 PM  

qorkfiend: Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.

I'm dying to know who you consider the Democratic equivalent of people like Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Andrew Breitbart, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Sean Hannity, Victoria Jackson, Jonah Goldberg, Ann Coulter, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.


Rachel Maddow. Duh.
 
2014-08-04 02:20:24 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.



"Well, the important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to both."
 
2014-08-04 02:20:50 PM  

DamnYankees: What governing wing? Seriously, which wing is this? Does it have more than 3 people in it?


That's what I was thinking and I noticed there were no names given in the article either.  It's tea party grifters vs. established grifters if anything.
 
2014-08-04 02:21:09 PM  
I don't understand why people are making such a big deal - or even a deal at all - about the alleged Tea Party vs. GOP feud. They match up on issues 99.9% of the time, and they're all Republicans. What's the difference which side comes out on top, other than that traditional GOPers can pull it together and appear sane for five minutes?
 
2014-08-04 02:21:34 PM  
So apparently Count Chocula gets paid half a million to head the Club for Growth.
 
2014-08-04 02:22:00 PM  
Garbage.

The non-tea party candidates are throwing around money like it's water all to maintain their own seats. Money they bilk from a few powerful sources.

The republican base doesn't want amnesty or a fast track for citizenship for illegals. The grifters in that case are the Republicans asking for money who support such. I bet he's pissed that Cantor lost to a "grifter" as well.

Some people hate grassroot organizations because they can't control them. He wishes the TP was more like Move On or one of the other groups that is billed as grassroots but serves to tell the grassroots what to do. And it's always "support the incumbent on our side".
 
2014-08-04 02:22:18 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.


Sounds like both sides are bad.
 
2014-08-04 02:22:34 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: The Tea Party, though noble in their beliefs


www.buzztwang.com
 
2014-08-04 02:23:04 PM  

ilikeracecars: I can't read any article that begins with "The dictionary defines...".


But that's how I learned it in Student Council and Debate Club!  It's a classic opening strategy.
 
2014-08-04 02:23:35 PM  

The Why Not Guy: I don't understand why people are making such a big deal - or even a deal at all - about the alleged Tea Party vs. GOP feud. They match up on issues 99.9% of the time, and they're all Republicans. What's the difference which side comes out on top, other than that traditional GOPers can pull it together and appear sane for five minutes?


That 0.1% difference is whether Republicans will stop at the edge of the cliff or fly over the edge.
 
2014-08-04 02:23:38 PM  
Governing wing??

Unless a group of politicians got sucked into Dimension X 45 years ago and are still searching for their way back home....

/would make a great tv pilot
 
2014-08-04 02:24:41 PM  

DamnYankees: qorkfiend: Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.

I'm dying to know who you consider the Democratic equivalent of people like Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Andrew Breitbart, Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Sean Hannity, Victoria Jackson, Jonah Goldberg, Ann Coulter, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Rachel Maddow. Duh.


And Sheila Jackson Lee, cause she says dumb things sometimes, which most certainly justifies any statements made by anyone on your list.
 
2014-08-04 02:26:10 PM  
I thought any conservatives interested in governing had jumped ship to become Blue Dog Democrats?
 
2014-08-04 02:27:30 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: DamnYankees: What governing wing? Seriously, which wing is this? Does it have more than 3 people in it?

That's what I was thinking and I noticed there were no names given in the article either.  It's tea party grifters vs. established grifters if anything.


Well, sure. There's nothing an old grifter hates more than a new grifter invading his turf.
 
2014-08-04 02:28:56 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.

Sounds like both sides are bad.


I wonder who I should vote for...
 
2014-08-04 02:29:06 PM  

qorkfiend: Soup4Bonnie: DamnYankees: What governing wing? Seriously, which wing is this? Does it have more than 3 people in it?

That's what I was thinking and I noticed there were no names given in the article either.  It's tea party grifters vs. established grifters if anything.

Well, sure. There's nothing an old grifter hates more than a new grifter invading his turf.


Seriously. LaTourrete is one of those guys who left Congress in 2010, so that he can pretend that because he wasn't part of the GOP House Majority, that he was sane. Please. The GOP was farking insane in 2008 and 2009 just as much as it was now.
 
2014-08-04 02:30:08 PM  
Good grief.  I think the ultra-right are a bunch of jackasses too, but Fark has really reached echo chamber status on an epic level.

You know why there is still gridlock and a filibuster?  Because Reid wanted it available for when the Democrats eventually lose the majority.  You're being screwed by both sides, folks.
 
2014-08-04 02:31:29 PM  

AngryDragon: You know why there is still gridlock and a filibuster?  Because Reid wanted it available for when the Democrats eventually lose the majority.  You're being screwed by both sides, folks.


Pretty sure most liberals on this site have long-advocated completely abolishing the filibuster. I'm probably the most vocal, and I agree Reid should have done away with it. What's your point? That I should support Sharron Angle because Reid disagrees with me on this?
 
2014-08-04 02:33:35 PM  
I still hold out hope for the party. Maybe, with luck, we can push the Teahadjis and the corporate stooges out at the same time, when 'bama leaves office; then the party can go back to its core values.
 
2014-08-04 02:34:34 PM  

Mrbogey: Garbage.

The non-tea party candidates are throwing around money like it's water all to maintain their own seats. Money they bilk from a few powerful sources.

The republican base doesn't want amnesty or a fast track for citizenship for illegals. The grifters in that case are the Republicans asking for money who support such. I bet he's pissed that Cantor lost to a "grifter" as well.

Some people hate grassroot organizations because they can't control them. He wishes the TP was more like Move On or one of the other groups that is billed as grassroots but serves to tell the grassroots what to do. And it's always "support the incumbent on our side".


Yup no big money goes to finance the Tea Party.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2663125/

You rubes will believe anything.
 
2014-08-04 02:34:57 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.


Not going to say no because NYC is a prime example.

As far as hateful, ignorant scumbags however, the GOP beats out the Dems hands down...by default even.
 
2014-08-04 02:34:59 PM  

iheartscotch: I still hold out hope for the party. Maybe, with luck, we can push the Teahadjis and the corporate stooges out at the same time, when 'bama leaves office; then the party can go back to its core values.


The GOP without social conservatives and economic conservatives leaves you with a party made up of only neoconservative foreign policy hawks.

How is that good?
 
2014-08-04 02:35:26 PM  

iheartscotch: Maybe, with luck, we can push the Teahadjis and the corporate stooges out at the same time


Leaving a total membership of 3.
 
2014-08-04 02:37:26 PM  

Sirsky: Rapmaster2000: Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.

Sounds like both sides are bad.

I wonder who I should vote for...


I'm a Libertarian.  I don't kowtow to the Republicrats or the Democans.  I evaluate candidates objectively and then vote Republican.

I'm a loner... a rebel.
 
2014-08-04 02:37:50 PM  

The Why Not Guy: iheartscotch: Maybe, with luck, we can push the Teahadjis and the corporate stooges out at the same time

Leaving a total membership of 3.


You're being generous.
 
2014-08-04 02:37:57 PM  

AngryDragon: Good grief.  I think the ultra-right are a bunch of jackasses too, but Fark has really reached echo chamber status on an epic level.

You know why there is still gridlock and a filibuster?  Because Reid wanted it available for when the Democrats eventually lose the majority.  You're being screwed by both sides, folks.


...so vote republican?
 
2014-08-04 02:37:59 PM  

Smelly McUgly: [img.fark.net image 268x188]


For some reason, I read the fighters' names as "Shaq Khan". That would make MK2 - already pretty awesome - exponentially more awesome.
 
2014-08-04 02:38:56 PM  

jaytkay: HST's Dead Carcass: The Tea Party, though noble in their beliefs

[www.buzztwang.com image 392x370]


...percentage-wise there are more Christians in Kenya than there are in the United States.

Just sayin'.
 
2014-08-04 02:39:23 PM  

Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.


No, the dems are not ideal, but they are substantially better than tea partiers.  The dems have nothing to compare to the likes of Palin and Cain.
 
2014-08-04 02:39:55 PM  

Dr Dreidel: For some reason, I read the fighters' names as "Shaq Khan". That would make MK2 - already pretty awesome - exponentially more awesome.


Sha-sha-sha-sha-shaq Khan... Shaq Khan

That was my jam back in the day. Damn.
 
2014-08-04 02:40:34 PM  

DamnYankees: AngryDragon: You know why there is still gridlock and a filibuster?  Because Reid wanted it available for when the Democrats eventually lose the majority.  You're being screwed by both sides, folks.

Pretty sure most liberals on this site have long-advocated completely abolishing the filibuster. I'm probably the most vocal, and I agree Reid should have done away with it. What's your point? That I should support Sharron Angle because Reid disagrees with me on this?


Eh, the filibuster has a point.  If you're so fervently passionate about trying to stop something from happening that you're willing to stand up and sacrifice your voice and such, you should be allowed to. It's public, everyone knows who's doing it (unlike an anonymous hold on the bill).  But you should have to actually make the sacrifice, and should you ever stop talking, that's it, you're done.
 
2014-08-04 02:42:08 PM  

palelizard: Eh, the filibuster has a point.  If you're so fervently passionate about trying to stop something from happening that you're willing to stand up and sacrifice your voice and such, you should be allowed to. It's public, everyone knows who's doing it (unlike an anonymous hold on the bill).  But you should have to actually make the sacrifice, and should you ever stop talking, that's it, you're done.


I still think that's a bad idea, but it'd be a very tiny, irrelevant bad idea.

The point is that the current filibuster has NOTHING to do with that, and people keep valorizing the idea of the filibuster, which keeps the current incarnation alive. It's 100% terrible.
 
2014-08-04 02:42:15 PM  
The reality is, this country needs a bit from both parties now.

The progressive style policies that were put into place by FDR, and the trust-bustingness and keeping corporations in check of Teddy Roosevelt.

I can dream, can't I?
 
2014-08-04 02:42:20 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Sirsky: Rapmaster2000: Earguy: Sorry, the grift in conservative politics is rampant even amongst the regular Republicans.

And Dems, you're no better.

Sounds like both sides are bad.

I wonder who I should vote for...

I'm a Libertarian.  I don't kowtow to the Republicrats or the Democans.  I evaluate candidates objectively and then vote Republican.

I'm a loner... a rebel.


Do you follow anyone's rules, even your own?
 
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