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(BBC)   Birds aren't descended from dinosaurs, they ARE dinosaurs - Randall Munroe   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 167
    More: Obvious, dinosaurs, theropod dinosaurs, modern birds, Archaeopteryx, velociraptor, University of Adelaide, meteorite impact, Molecular Biology  
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2014-08-04 10:20:30 AM  
img.fark.net

'Just like a bird....'
 
2014-08-04 10:55:03 AM  
Obligatory, might as well get it out of the way:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-08-04 10:57:15 AM  
Birds aren't descended from dinosaurs, they are dinosaurs - Randall Munroe

Man, I'm so far beyond that shiat now. I get energy from the air. I talk to polar bears. I converse with paramecium. Man, I fark nuclear waste. - Randall 'Tex' Cobb
 
2014-08-04 11:09:34 AM  
Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-04 11:10:14 AM  
I'm a bacterium.
 
2014-08-04 11:36:24 AM  

Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.


i.ytimg.com

I imagine that would be a tad annoying.

But that's why the .577 Tyrannosaur rifle cartridge was developed.  So we wouldn't have to worry about such things, and apparently, it's worked.  Since the invention of that cartridge, I haven't heard of a single case of a person being awoken by T-rex, gong or no gong.
 
2014-08-04 11:49:15 AM  

ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.


Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.
 
2014-08-04 11:55:50 AM  
static.guim.co.uk: ♫We are the birds, we are the future♫
 
2014-08-04 11:57:05 AM  

Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.


I'm a photon.
 
2014-08-04 12:00:05 PM  

SurfaceTension: Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.

I'm a photon.


I'm an Elected One.

/Tron means "Dude".
 
2014-08-04 12:18:25 PM  
Viral marketing for Jurrasic World?
 
2014-08-04 12:18:31 PM  
So when I visited that aviary I was actually going to Jurassic Park?  Man, kind of a let down.

/some of the girls were clever though
 
2014-08-04 12:19:32 PM  
So only the Therapods survived the mass extinction I suppose.

Makes sense. Big plant eaters all died, so big meat eaters died, leaving only the smaller ones that ate bugs, seeds etc.

Can somebody get to work in selectively breeding Ostriches to get back to T-rex size?
 
2014-08-04 12:19:43 PM  
Turkeys are descended from Deliciousaurus Rex.
 
2014-08-04 12:20:43 PM  
Which means that T. Rex tastes like chicken.

/maybe duck...
 
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2014-08-04 12:21:35 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [img.fark.net image 307x164]

'Just like a bird....'



Holy carp... I had to check IMDB to see if that was a young Jonah Hill!
Surprisingly, It isn't.
 
2014-08-04 12:21:44 PM  

dittybopper: Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I imagine that would be a tad annoying.

But that's why the .577 Tyrannosaur rifle cartridge was developed.  So we wouldn't have to worry about such things, and apparently, it's worked.  Since the invention of that cartridge, I haven't heard of a single case of a person being awoken by T-rex, gong or no gong.


I'm willing to bet that one, or 10, of those would not stop a Tyrannosaur, unless you were incredibly lucky enough to be able to hit its itty bitty brain inside that massive skull.
 
2014-08-04 12:22:08 PM  
I don't think anyone would realistically call a sparrow a "terrible lizard" (which is basically what "dinosaur" means in Greek).

That may be where they originated, but there have been some considerable changes in the intervening tens of millions of years.
 
2014-08-04 12:23:36 PM  
This evolutionary phenomenon appears to be speeding up. Most species of human males have gone from the equivalent of T-Rex to Tweety Bird in only 50 years.
 
2014-08-04 12:25:46 PM  
Sounds like evolution.

So, when the bible says that "his eye is on the sparrow" that is proof conclusive of the existence of dinosaurs in the Bible.

In fact, that would mean that they were mentioned in the Bible before we even had fossil evidence to prove their physical existence.

And, that would mean that there were dinosaurs on the ark.
 
2014-08-04 12:27:48 PM  

jshine: I don't think anyone would realistically call a sparrow a "terrible lizard" (which is basically what "dinosaur" means in Greek).

That may be where they originated, but there have been some considerable changes in the intervening tens of millions of years.


Tell that to an earthworm. And we're finding fewer differences all the time, as more and more therapod fossils turn out to have feathers. Basically, birds are small, beaked, feathered, flying dinosaurs. Other dinosaurs had one or more of those features.
 
2014-08-04 12:27:58 PM  
More like dinoSOARS, amirite?
 
2014-08-04 12:28:29 PM  
Heh. Anyone who has ever spent quality time with chickens and parrotlets, or knows anything about parrot physiology already knew this. Birds are crazy-different from all other critters on earth, except for lizards, which is why reptiles "taste like chicken".
 
2014-08-04 12:28:31 PM  
It's pretty clear when you see a wild turkey walking through a field. They're just dinosaurs without teeth and tails. Sometimes I see turkey tracks when I'm hunting and I think, "70 million years ago, I'd be looking at velociraptor tracks and there'd be very little difference." It's sort of chilling to contemplate.
 
2014-08-04 12:28:36 PM  

SurfaceTension: Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.

I'm a photon.


I'm a banana.

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2014-08-04 12:29:06 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: This evolutionary phenomenon appears to be speeding up. Most species of human males have gone from the equivalent of T-Rex to Tweety Bird in only 50 years.


The one thing that never changes throughout recorded history is people complaining about how men today are effeminate and emasculated compared to the good old days. Seriously, the ancient Greeks biatched about that all the time.
 
2014-08-04 12:30:49 PM  
Coincidentally, I just watched a documentary on the Smithsonian Roku app last night where this was being discussed.
 
2014-08-04 12:32:45 PM  

LazyMedia: The Pope of Manwich Village: This evolutionary phenomenon appears to be speeding up. Most species of human males have gone from the equivalent of T-Rex to Tweety Bird in only 50 years.

The one thing that never changes throughout recorded history is people complaining about how men today are effeminate and emasculated compared to the good old days. Seriously, the ancient Greeks biatched about that all the time.


And that's just what we have in writing. I'm certain that Thog and Gurk complained about the wishy-washiness of the next generation of cave dwellers.
 
2014-08-04 12:38:35 PM  

dittybopper: SurfaceTension: Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.

I'm a photon.

I'm an Elected One.

/Tron means "Dude".


A friend of mine is a middle-school science teacher. He showed that scene to his class once and they still didn't understand it.
 
2014-08-04 12:39:55 PM  

whither_apophis: Which means that T. Rex tastes like chicken.

/maybe duck...


Nah... guessing like ostrich, which is kind of a beef/chicken hybrid kind of meat.  Tasty stuff too.
 
2014-08-04 12:40:07 PM  
Isn't that just like saying we're all fish since land animals evolved from sea creatures?  It's not wrong, it's just where you draw the line when something becomes a new species
 
2014-08-04 12:40:43 PM  

LazarusLong42: And that's just what we have in writing. I'm certain that Thog and Gurk complained about the wishy-washiness of the next generation of cave dwellers.


THOG RECALL WHEN BEARSKIN WAS SOMETHING THOG WENT OUT AND GOT ON OWN, NOT SOMETHING DELIVERED TO CAVE BY TRADERS.
 
2014-08-04 12:42:11 PM  

HailRobonia: SurfaceTension: Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.

I'm a photon.

I'm a banana.

[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 310x279]


It's peanut butter jelly time?
 
2014-08-04 12:42:12 PM  
I have little doubt of this when watching raptors hunt and devour their smaller bird friends.
 
2014-08-04 12:42:53 PM  
So scientists LIED when they told us dinosaurs are extinct. This proves the earth is 6000 years old, and that Jesus rode around on a velociraptor. Just like it says in the Bible.
 
2014-08-04 12:44:07 PM  

Watubi: Isn't that just like saying we're all fish since land animals evolved from sea creatures? It's not wrong, it's just where you draw the line when something becomes a new species


More like calling humans apes. Technically true, but we created the delineation for a reason. There's a considerable difference between a human and an orangutan, and an even bigger difference between a human and a gibbon even though they're all "apes".
 
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2014-08-04 12:44:38 PM  

jshine: I don't think anyone would realistically call a sparrow a "terrible lizard"


Well, as lizards go... It would make a pretty bad lizard.
...so there's that.
 
2014-08-04 12:49:51 PM  

dittybopper: Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


"I need Tree-Fiddy."
 
2014-08-04 12:53:04 PM  

nocturnal001: So only the Therapods survived the mass extinction I suppose.

Makes sense. Big plant eaters all died, so big meat eaters died, leaving only the smaller ones that ate bugs, seeds etc.

Can somebody get to work in selectively breeding Ostriches to get back to T-rex size?


Oh, Jack Horner is on that. If I had the money or business savvy for investors, I would build a Jurassic Park resort in Las Vegas, and fully fund and employ Jack and a team of geneticists to constantly improve upon the dinosaurs running free around the grounds. Each year you visit, the little chickenosaurus' would be that much better until you're literally walking through the gardens with dinosaurs dashing in and out of the underbrush. It would be awesome.

/ BTW, I want them to reverse engineer cassowaries, not ostriches.
 
2014-08-04 12:54:09 PM  
but are they the word?
 
2014-08-04 12:57:48 PM  
So dinosaurs tasted like chicken?
 
2014-08-04 12:58:07 PM  
I can't find an unpaywalled version of the report: "Sustained miniaturization and anatomical innovation in the dinosaurian ancestors of birds", however the lead author, Michael S. Y. Lee, made a so-so YouTube about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YIfwfqXqf8

img.youtube.com

and another author,  Darren Naish, has a rather large article in Scientific American explaining it:
50 million years of incredible shrinking theropod dinosaurs
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/2014/07/31/50-m il lion-years-of-shrinking-theropod-dinosaurs/

What I've never understood is why no modern birds have real teeth. Was it just some arbitrary bottleneck?
 
2014-08-04 12:58:37 PM  

LazyMedia: dittybopper: Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I imagine that would be a tad annoying.

But that's why the .577 Tyrannosaur rifle cartridge was developed.  So we wouldn't have to worry about such things, and apparently, it's worked.  Since the invention of that cartridge, I haven't heard of a single case of a person being awoken by T-rex, gong or no gong.

I'm willing to bet that one, or 10, of those would not stop a Tyrannosaur, unless you were incredibly lucky enough to be able to hit its itty bitty brain inside that massive skull.


I'm willing to bet otherwise.

First of all, look at the specs:

The 577 contains a .585-inch (14.9 mm) diameter 750-grain (49 g) Monolithic Solid Projectile which when fired moves at 2,460 ft/s (750 m/s) producing 10,180 foot-pounds force (13,800 J) of muzzle energy

That's about 300 ft/lbs less energy than a .50 BMG, *BUT* it's a larger diameter bullet, and instead of being designed mainly to fark up trucks and light armor, it's designed to stop large, thick skinned, heavy, and *PISSED OFF* animals.  Like charging bull elephants.  It's got a blunt round nose for maximum impact instead of a spitzer-type point.

Besides which, I've given it a bit of thought, and there is a *MASSIVE* weakness that all large theropods have:  Their legs.

They only have two of them.

They have to support the entirety of their bulk on two legs, and of course that's what they need to use to run.  If you can wound them in either leg severely enough, you destroy their ability to move.   They can't run after you.  They can't charge you.  They can't jump over an obstacle.  At best, they'll be able to limp.

Even if they have a "primitive nervous system", and don't really feel the pain as such, if you destroy a significant amount of muscle and/or bone in one of their legs, then their leg isn't going to work correctly.

We see that today with elephants, for example:  They need all 4 legs to work in order to move.  For example, this clip from the old Howard Hill film "Tembo" shows him killing an elephant with a bow (fair warning, he kills an elephant).  He shoots a number of arrows at the elephant, while it just basically stands there.   That's because a professional hunter had shot one of its legs with a rifle first, thus immobilizing it. The elephant *COULDN'T* move.

Now, imagine something that has 2 legs instead of 4.  You do some serious damage to either of the legs of a tyrannosaur (or any other theropod), and it's going nowhere.  You can kill it (or escape) at your leisure.

And yes, I know I put an awful lot of thought into that.  I'm funny that way.
 
2014-08-04 12:59:09 PM  

SurfaceTension: Son of Thunder: ZAZ: I'm a bacterium.

Johnny-Come-Lately. I'm hydrogen.

I'm a photon.


When you're underwater do you get wet?  Or does the water get you instead?
 
2014-08-04 12:59:10 PM  
This is one of those dangerous facts to know.  I'm picturing a third grader getting mocked by his teacher for declaring dinosaurs are in fact not extinct.
 
2014-08-04 01:00:50 PM  
So, what happens if our climate changes again to the point that being large would be avantagious again?  Would their old genes kick back on at some point in time?
 
2014-08-04 01:02:18 PM  

LazyMedia: dittybopper: Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I imagine that would be a tad annoying.

But that's why the .577 Tyrannosaur rifle cartridge was developed.  So we wouldn't have to worry about such things, and apparently, it's worked.  Since the invention of that cartridge, I haven't heard of a single case of a person being awoken by T-rex, gong or no gong.

I'm willing to bet that one, or 10, of those would not stop a Tyrannosaur, unless you were incredibly lucky enough to be able to hit its itty bitty brain inside that massive skull.


1 You shoot for center mass

2 T rex brains are the same size as human ones

3 Just make sure yours calls you 'Mommy!' and grovels before you
 
2014-08-04 01:02:37 PM  

advex101: Sounds like evolution.

So, when the bible says that "his eye is on the sparrow" that is proof conclusive of the existence of dinosaurs in the Bible.

In fact, that would mean that they were mentioned in the Bible before we even had fossil evidence to prove their physical existence.

And, that would mean that there were dinosaurs on the ark.


topicagnostic.com

This is not new.  Conservapedia even has an entry.
 
2014-08-04 01:03:27 PM  
I'll believe when the Colonel starts serving raptor with 11 secret herbs and spices
 
2014-08-04 01:03:31 PM  

dittybopper: Lando Lincoln: Imagine how annoying it would be to have a T Rex chirping outside your bedroom window at 5am.

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]

I imagine that would be a tad annoying.

But that's why the .577 Tyrannosaur rifle cartridge was developed.  So we wouldn't have to worry about such things, and apparently, it's worked.  Since the invention of that cartridge, I haven't heard of a single case of a person being awoken by T-rex, gong or no gong.


s27.postimg.org

Oh, yeah!
 
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