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2014-08-04 09:28:53 AM  
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2014-08-04 10:05:11 AM  
Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?
 
2014-08-04 10:17:01 AM  
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2014-08-04 10:43:16 AM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?


If you really want to upgrade, and motion-detector tech is important to you, then get a WiiU. With the unbundling of the Kinect from the XBox, it's going to be tough to get developers to sign on.

But really, why upgrade? There's a pile of good games for the Wii, and I'm guessing that photo-realistic gore and 1080p resolution are not primary drivers for you.
If you just want to get something different, then pick up a used XBox360 and Kinect and stuff like Dance Revolution or the like. But I wouldn't pick up a next gen system until there are specific next gen games that you want - and ideally, several next gen games that you want.
 
2014-08-04 11:02:00 AM  

Theaetetus: If you really want to upgrade, and motion-detector tech is important to you, then get a WiiU. With the unbundling of the Kinect from the XBox, it's going to be tough to get developers to sign on.

But really, why upgrade? There's a pile of good games for the Wii, and I'm guessing that photo-realistic gore and 1080p resolution are not primary drivers for you.
If you just want to get something different, then pick up a used XBox360 and Kinect and stuff like Dance Revolution or the like. But I wouldn't pick up a next gen system until there are specific next gen games that you want - and ideally, several next gen games that you want.


That is helpful, thank you. The WiiU might be the way to go since I can play all my old Wii games, plus finally get games in HD.
 
2014-08-04 11:05:55 AM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?


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Sorry, I really have no console advice for you.
 
2014-08-04 12:08:27 PM  
Advice: Put out one game I must have and need the system to play

I've bought systems for one game and so have a lot of people. That'll tell you something if you can't sell this rectangle.
 
2014-08-04 12:10:12 PM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?


If you can wait,then wait. They get cheaper, better built, and will have a larger number of games. Waiting also allows you to jump on to the more popular platform.

Neither are all that great really.
 
2014-08-04 12:11:16 PM  
Meh, I haven't even had a chance to play this new Backgammon set. Maybe when the price drops I'll get one of the new ones.
 
2014-08-04 12:14:59 PM  
You shouldn't have generated so much bad PR then M$, mandating that NSA Spycam and charging way too much money for a piece of hardware that's inferior to your competition.
 
2014-08-04 12:17:04 PM  
This would please me. Planning on grabbing one next tax time. $350 or less would be sweet.

means I'd only have to drop $500 total. (1 more controller - 2 games assuming one on sale).
 
2014-08-04 12:18:30 PM  

CPennypacker: Advice: Put out one game I must have and need the system to play

I've bought systems for one game and so have a lot of people. That'll tell you something if you can't sell this rectangle.


Eh... I need more than one game to justify buying a system. I mean, Tales of Vesperia is what eventually got me to pull the trigger on the 360, but I also had a bunch of other stuff to get that was already out or coming down the line.

I figure when I finally decide to get a new console, it'll probably be a PS4 because Atlus, NIS, Namco etc will have moved on, and I don't see them moving to the X1.
 
2014-08-04 12:18:58 PM  
I saw the PS4 is on sale for $399, so I think I'll buy one. I also saw XBOne is on sale for $399, so I'll buy a PS4.
 
2014-08-04 12:20:03 PM  
Are they still requiring an extra subscription to Live Gold in order to watch Netflix, which you're already paying for, or is that one of the things they already rolled back?
 
2014-08-04 12:20:39 PM  

Xbox 360 games would not play on it due to all new hardware in the XboxOne?

No Backward Compatibility = No Sale.

 
2014-08-04 12:20:44 PM  
 
2014-08-04 12:21:50 PM  

Gaambit: Are they still requiring an extra subscription to Live Gold in order to watch Netflix, which you're already paying for, or is that one of the things they already rolled back?


Rolled back. No paywall.

HST's Dead Carcass: I saw the PS4 is on sale for $399, so I think I'll buy one. I also saw XBOne is on sale for $399, so I'll buy a PS4.


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2014-08-04 12:24:19 PM  
I bought a PS2 after the PS3 came out, and a PS3 after 4 came out. Keeps it very cheap.

I was surprised to find that I use the PS3 mainly as a media player and almost never for gaming. I guess I've just gotten older/busier, but I'm more apt to fire up Netflix or Prime and find something to watch than I am to play a game.
 
2014-08-04 12:25:33 PM  

Gaambit: Are they still requiring an extra subscription to Live Gold in order to watch Netflix, which you're already paying for, or is that one of the things they already rolled back?


That changed a month or two ago.  Stuff like Netflix that previously required Gold are available to everyone.  The major benefits of Gold now are multiplayer and the two free games a month.  Although the two free games are usually shiat.  Either stuff that they couldn't sell, or stuff that came out years ago and everybody already has.
 
2014-08-04 12:26:00 PM  
Here's another question from an out-of-date console user. So, say for some reason, I don't have a TV, can I hook my console up to my computer monitor these days?  It seems like that should be a thing, right?
 
2014-08-04 12:26:24 PM  

kanesays: Xbox 360 games would not play on it due to all new hardware in the XboxOne?No Backward Compatibility = No Sale.


You realize the PS4 can't play PS3 games, right? Both companies did a massive overhaul of their hardware making it very time consuming to rebuild the games for the new hardware.

Straight to doom: You shouldn't have generated so much bad PR then M$, mandating that NSA Spycam and charging way too much money for a piece of hardware that's inferior to your competition.


NSA Spycam? Isn't it a lot more likely that they wanted everyone to have their motion detection so developers would be forced to find an interesting use for it and actually advancing the video game industry? Do you really think they originally made it mandatory just so they could spy on people?
 
2014-08-04 12:26:59 PM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.


Since you haven't gamed in years, even the Xbox 360 is still good, and you can buy the games for cheap.
 
2014-08-04 12:27:24 PM  
I haven't felt the need to upgrade the ps3 at all, well other than the need for another wifi media hub for the bedroom.

But as I understand The Last Guardian is still in development hell.

/no money for you, sony
//not yet
 
2014-08-04 12:35:14 PM  

gadian: Here's another question from an out-of-date console user. So, say for some reason, I don't have a TV, can I hook my console up to my computer monitor these days?  It seems like that should be a thing, right?


If you have an hdmi connection on your monitor.
 
2014-08-04 12:36:14 PM  

I Mash Grains: tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Since you haven't gamed in years, even the Xbox 360 is still good, and you can buy the games for cheap.


I'd agree with this, plus you can get the Kinect with some exercise games if you really want to try out the motion detection stuff.  There's a huge catalog that's cheap and you'll spend less than you would for the the WiiU.
 
2014-08-04 12:37:15 PM  
I'll buy whichever runs Fallout 4 better when Fallout 4 comes out.  I have been waiting for Fallout 4 for years now.  Fallout 4

Fallout 4
 
2014-08-04 12:39:40 PM  

gadian: Here's another question from an out-of-date console user. So, say for some reason, I don't have a TV, can I hook my console up to my computer monitor these days?  It seems like that should be a thing, right?


Yes you can.

Most monitors these days have a HDMI input, so it's straight forward.

If they have a DVI input you can get a HDMI to DVI cable.

If it's a VGA monitor, then it's unlikely without some sort of HDMI to VGA converter, as VGA is analogue and HDMI digital (so a HDMI/VGA cable will do you no good, it needs to be an active converter)

Sound is another issue though, as you would need to feed to optical out into something, or the monitor would have to have integrated speakers which are part of the HDMI system (as opposed to those ones that are just speakers with a 3.5mm input jack on the monitor somewhere)
 
2014-08-04 12:41:14 PM  

NeoCortex42: The major benefits of Gold now are multiplayer and the two free games a month.  Although the two free games are usually shiat.


They've gotten MUCH better in the past few months. Examples:

* Saint's Row 3
* Dishonored
* Dark Souls
* Sleeping Dogs

Still not as good as some of the gimmies on PSN+, but you get to keep them even if your subscription ends.
 
2014-08-04 12:42:31 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: HST's Dead Carcass: I saw the PS4 is on sale for $399, so I think I'll buy one. I also saw XBOne is on sale for $399, so I'll buy a PS4.

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I guess I used a wrong word there, how about: for sale at Best Buy.
 
2014-08-04 12:47:30 PM  

NeoCortex42: Although the two free games are usually shiat.  Either stuff that they couldn't sell, or stuff that came out years ago and everybody already has.


Well, true.  But even if everybody else has that game you might not.

All my friends were playing Dead Island at a point in time when it came out and I was way too busy to sit down and play much of anything.  Having it just show up was a nice treat for me; I can play it at my leisure and not feel like the price tag is winding down on it.

Honestly, I think it's a great trend.  Every console has some games that might not be top-tier but still have some appeal to them.  If they can cut a deal and give them away for a limited time it means a few hours players can check out the game, even to decide it's not that great.  And players who missed the window downloading it create a new crop of buyers.
 
2014-08-04 12:51:28 PM  
No thank you.  I'm happy with my Intellivision.
 
2014-08-04 12:51:59 PM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?


Dota 2 is free to play on the pc, made by Valve and still better than anything out on the current consoles (and I own an xbox one).

/Dota 2 is soooooooooooo addictive
//Still waiting for a must have game
///Will buy a PS4 for Uncharted 4
 
2014-08-04 12:52:51 PM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Thoughts?


A used 360.  Xbox fitness isn't going to be free much longer and aside that there isn't any good full motion games.  Just Dance is their only dancing game and that isn't nearly as fun as the older Dance Centrals.  Xbox One's integration with TV is amazing though.
 
2014-08-04 12:54:38 PM  

Theaetetus: If you really want to upgrade, and motion-detector tech is important to you, then get a WiiU. With the unbundling of the Kinect from the XBox, it's going to be tough to get developers to sign on.


You just recommended a system that no one is developing for and is crashing hard over a system that some people are developing for and is only crashing a little.
 
2014-08-04 12:55:26 PM  

Gaambit: Are they still requiring an extra subscription to Live Gold in order to watch Netflix, which you're already paying for, or is that one of the things they already rolled back?


Neither the PS4 nor the XBone (giggle) require a subscription to use Netflix.
 
2014-08-04 12:56:19 PM  
Am I right in assuming that Halo 5 will be incompatible with XBox 360?
 
2014-08-04 12:56:53 PM  

change1211: You realize the PS4 can't play PS3 games, right? Both companies did a massive overhaul of their hardware making it very time consuming to rebuild the games for the new hardware.


The PS4 will play PS3 games via a streaming service called "Playstation Now" which just entered public beta.
 
2014-08-04 12:57:17 PM  

Skarekrough: NeoCortex42: Although the two free games are usually shiat.  Either stuff that they couldn't sell, or stuff that came out years ago and everybody already has.

Well, true.  But even if everybody else has that game you might not.

All my friends were playing Dead Island at a point in time when it came out and I was way too busy to sit down and play much of anything.  Having it just show up was a nice treat for me; I can play it at my leisure and not feel like the price tag is winding down on it.

Honestly, I think it's a great trend.  Every console has some games that might not be top-tier but still have some appeal to them.  If they can cut a deal and give them away for a limited time it means a few hours players can check out the game, even to decide it's not that great.  And players who missed the window downloading it create a new crop of buyers.


I am excited for Dishonored. Never played it. Heard it's its own brand of BioShock and I like that idea.
 
2014-08-04 12:59:02 PM  

stevenrushing: I'll buy whichever runs Fallout 4 better when Fallout 4 comes out.  I have been waiting for Fallout 4 for years now.  Fallout 4

Fallout 4


You'd be wanting a gaming PC.  It's a Bethesda game.  Always get those for PC due to the huge moding community.
 
2014-08-04 12:59:15 PM  

NeoCortex42: Gaambit: Are they still requiring an extra subscription to Live Gold in order to watch Netflix, which you're already paying for, or is that one of the things they already rolled back?

That changed a month or two ago.  Stuff like Netflix that previously required Gold are available to everyone.  The major benefits of Gold now are multiplayer and the two free games a month.  Although the two free games are usually shiat.  Either stuff that they couldn't sell, or stuff that came out years ago and everybody already has.


I liked the Civilization game they had free. The Tomb Raider game was a fun puzzle/arcade style game but a lot of the free games are not so great. To many castle defense type games imo.
 
2014-08-04 01:01:25 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: I am excited for Dishonored. Never played it. Heard it's its own brand of BioShock and I like that idea.


It was a fun game.  I played it with who cares who I kill sometime I'll go back and try not to kill anyone.

gingerjet: The PS4 will play PS3 games via a streaming service called "Playstation Now" which just entered public beta.


Sounds like they are delaying the shiat out of it till they can just fade away that it will only work on a few titles, then discontinue it like they did on the PS3 and how it was with the Xbox 360.

Really how many people need to play their older games on a new system?  Either keep the old system or trade it all in.
 
2014-08-04 01:02:56 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Skarekrough: NeoCortex42: Although the two free games are usually shiat.  Either stuff that they couldn't sell, or stuff that came out years ago and everybody already has.

Well, true.  But even if everybody else has that game you might not.

All my friends were playing Dead Island at a point in time when it came out and I was way too busy to sit down and play much of anything.  Having it just show up was a nice treat for me; I can play it at my leisure and not feel like the price tag is winding down on it.

Honestly, I think it's a great trend.  Every console has some games that might not be top-tier but still have some appeal to them.  If they can cut a deal and give them away for a limited time it means a few hours players can check out the game, even to decide it's not that great.  And players who missed the window downloading it create a new crop of buyers.

I am excited for Dishonored. Never played it. Heard it's its own brand of BioShock and I like that idea.


Dishonored is a blast.  The replay value for going back and not being detcted is massive with me.  It very much feeds into a level of perfectionism that's borderline unhealthy.
 
2014-08-04 01:02:58 PM  

I Mash Grains: tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.

But having said that, I'd like to get back into gaming. I particularly like games that use the full-motion detector technology where you can jump around and get exercise.  So, which system would be the better purchase: a PS4 or an Xbox One?  Based on this article I'm guessing the PS4 but I don't know why.

Since you haven't gamed in years, even the Xbox 360 is still good, and you can buy the games for cheap.


I havent gone next gen because there are still a lot of 360 games out there used at Gamestop that i want to play. If i can pick up a good title for cheap it beats paying $60 all day. I dont care about buying games at release. At some point Ill upgrade but im in no rush.
 
2014-08-04 01:03:24 PM  
Takes me awhile to upgrade....
now excuse me while I go play my Vectrex

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2014-08-04 01:05:58 PM  

gingerjet: change1211: You realize the PS4 can't play PS3 games, right? Both companies did a massive overhaul of their hardware making it very time consuming to rebuild the games for the new hardware.

The PS4 will play PS3 games via a streaming service called "Playstation Now" which just entered public beta.


Yes, you too can rent 8 year old games for $40 a month or $2 a day.
 
2014-08-04 01:06:10 PM  
I have both a PS4 and a Xbox One.  Can't stand the PS4, barely ever touch it to.  Biggest things I prefer on the XB are the much faster transitions from app to app (from watching to tv, to playing a game right where you left off, or swapping to netflix at the same point you were watching a show, so much more streamlined), the controller on the XB is better (and I don't just mean the layout, which I have always preferred XBOX over PS, but the battery on the PS4 dies so fast, and it doesn't automatically turn off either) and also, seems that all downloads and updates seem to go much faster on the XB.

Sure, PS4 has the better graphics, but unless you are a videophile that has his tv viewing distance optimized, and are running the 2 systems right next to each other, not something you will probably ever notice.
 
2014-08-04 01:08:27 PM  

tnpir: Question for the Fark gamers:  the last video game system I bought was a first-generation Wii, and before that, a Gamecube.  In other words, modern game systems frighten and confuse me, in no small part because of the obscene number of buttons on the controller, all of which do something different for every game.


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compass.xboxlive.com

Say what? Compared to the Gamecube controller, the Xbox One controller adds a Select button and an extra trigger button. It's really not that big a difference.
 
2014-08-04 01:11:01 PM  
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What was that? Sorry I couldnt hear you over the sound of how awesome everything is up here.
 
2014-08-04 01:15:23 PM  
I too am in the market for a console. All I have are N64, PS2 and a Wii. I'm thinking of giving the Wii to some kid during the holidays as it was barely used and go with an xbox or ps. My girlfriend wants Halo but would prefer ps. I'm guessing that's not possible as Halo is proprietary?
 
2014-08-04 01:19:05 PM  
Sony right now just can't afford a price cut, while Microsoft can sit back and lose money on hardware as long as they get some back with Live gold
 
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