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(The Atlantic)   For those rare few who have managed to actually finish a Jane Austen novel instead of passing out from boredom fifteen pages in could have learned something about British economics from the Victorian era Stephenie Meyer   (theatlantic.com) divider line 109
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2014-08-04 08:50:18 AM  
If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-04 08:56:38 AM  
Freakonomics did it.

I went to my high school English teacher saying I needed to draw a graph to figure out who was who. She had anticipated my need.
 
2014-08-04 10:22:13 AM  
I once had to write a paper on everything ironic in Jane Austen's Emma. Think i had to read through the book a few times to get them all. Never again.
 
2014-08-04 11:10:25 AM  
So subilliterate,
Are you saying Jane Austen was a crappy writer with grammar on par with Meyer? Switch the tag to Ironic for your incoherent, rambling headline and we got ourselves an actual joke.
 
2014-08-04 11:29:58 AM  
I swear that link was written by CleverBot.
 
2014-08-04 11:32:24 AM  
Ayn Rand - Atlas Shrugged.  I made it to page 60 once.  If pot ever becomes legal in Missouri, I may try again.
 
2014-08-04 11:33:23 AM  

kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.


Another possible problem: you're not a woman.  They're all dreadful.
 
2014-08-04 11:33:30 AM  
 
2014-08-04 11:34:58 AM  
Austen died 20 years before Victoria's ascension to the throne, so not so much "Victorian Era" anything. Maybe Regency?
 
2014-08-04 11:36:24 AM  
When you finish the Jane Austin novel your next challenge awaits;

A Margret Atwood novel.
 
2014-08-04 11:39:12 AM  
FTFH:   Victorian era Stephenie Meyer


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2014-08-04 11:39:33 AM  
Did Stephanie Meyer write that headline? Made about as much sense.
 
2014-08-04 11:40:16 AM  
I always found it curious how she could write contemporary novels during a period when the entire world was at war and never mention a thing about the war. It's as if she were stuck in some country house in the middle of nowhere without a telephone or a TV.
 
2014-08-04 11:43:21 AM  
Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?
 
2014-08-04 11:44:31 AM  
Jane Austen's writing is pretty tight for her time.  Now Henry James- there is some convoluted writing.
 
2014-08-04 11:46:04 AM  

kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.


Subby may be confusing her with the Bronte clan. I'm not a fan of Austen thanks to years of shiatty English curricula, but she's light years ahead of the vast majority of British literature that followed her.

/I'm convinced that British writers need a war or other severe civil strife to produce good material.
 
2014-08-04 11:46:20 AM  
cloud-2.steampowered.com
You kidding?  She practically SAVED Saints Row IV.
 
2014-08-04 11:46:49 AM  

kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you your testosterone level, not her.


I acknowledge that Jane Austen is a great writer. But as a dude, I really, REALLY don't care if those girls find a husband. Like, exactly zero farks do I give.

/Finally was able to read Pride and Prejudice after they added zombie-fighting to it.
 
2014-08-04 11:47:20 AM  
I remember having to write a paper about which one of the main characters in Pride and Prejudice represented pride and which represented prejudice.  I think my high school English teacher was illiterate or something.  All in all, it was a bit of a snoozefest, though I suppose there were some clever insights strewn throughout.  I did cite it for an essay on the AP Lit test, so it wasn't ENTIRELY useless.

It's still not as bad as Wuthering Heights, and none of Austen's novels are anywhere near as dreadful as anything written by Ayn Rand.  I think the horror of having to power through 1500 pages of Atlas Shrugged my senior year of high school left me with PTSD.

/it's a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune is usually too busy chasing tail to worry about women with no dowry
 
2014-08-04 11:47:39 AM  

Solty Dog: Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?


I think Jane Austen With Gorillas would be worth watching.
 
2014-08-04 11:48:37 AM  
Is Jane Austen like Anne Keller ?
 
2014-08-04 11:48:56 AM  

RentalMetard: I remember having to write a paper about which one of the main characters in Pride and Prejudice represented pride and which represented prejudice.  I think my high school English teacher was illiterate or something.  All in all, it was a bit of a snoozefest, though I suppose there were some clever insights strewn throughout.  I did cite it for an essay on the AP Lit test, so it wasn't ENTIRELY useless.

It's still not as bad as Wuthering Heights, and none of Austen's novels are anywhere near as dreadful as anything written by Ayn Rand.  I think the horror of having to power through 1500 pages of Atlas Shrugged my senior year of high school left me with PTSD.

/it's a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune is usually too busy chasing tail to worry about women with no dowry


You had to read Ayn Rand for CLASS? Was your English teacher brain dead or something?
 
2014-08-04 11:50:17 AM  
I can't find the video of a Mad TV sketch called Jane Austen's Tea N' A.

It featured Larry Flynt as the guy who just wanted to bang.

Oh well.
 
2014-08-04 11:50:45 AM  
Jane Austin or Emily Bronte, who'd you rather?
 
2014-08-04 11:51:52 AM  

Solty Dog: Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?


You're thinking of Marie Curie
 
2014-08-04 11:51:58 AM  

Tom_Slick: Jane Austin or Emily Bronte, who'd you rather?


Jane Austen and the Bronte sisters: M/F/K?
 
2014-08-04 11:53:31 AM  

menschenfresser: Austen died 20 years before Victoria's ascension to the throne, so not so much "Victorian Era" anything. Maybe Regency?


Time travelling vampires of course, that's why they're sparkly it's the timey-wimey particles from the Void, stuck to them when Meyer went back to before Victoria was born and assumed the identity of Jane Austen so she could be in place to launch the giant wasps that forced Victoria to form Torchwood.  The clues are all there sheeple!
 
2014-08-04 11:55:17 AM  
I saw the stage play of Pride and Prejudice, and rather enjoyed it. I can't imaging it would have been worth slogging through a book as large as that, though.
 
2014-08-04 11:55:53 AM  

LazyMedia: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you your testosterone level, not her.

I acknowledge that Jane Austen is a great writer. But as a dude, I really, REALLY don't care if those girls find a husband. Like, exactly zero farks do I give.

/Finally was able to read Pride and Prejudice after they added zombie-fighting to it.


Came here to say exactly that.  I farking LOVE to read, and when I was younger, in high school, easily went through 4-5 books a week on top of classwork.  I enjoyed every single book in my AP English lit course (about 30 or so) except for one - Pride and Prejudice.  It's the only one I broke down and cliff's Notes'd.  I just couldn't take it.  Still makes me shudder.

/never heard about the zombie version though, interesting...
 
2014-08-04 11:56:11 AM  

Carn: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.

Another possible problem: you're not a woman.  They're all dreadful.


No, we're quite nice for the most part. Some of us are even able to enjoy Austen, the NFL, The Walking Dead, and a nice pedicure, all without breaking a sweat.
 
2014-08-04 11:56:50 AM  

stickandmove: Solty Dog: Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?

You're thinking of Marie Curie


No that was Hedy Lemarr
 
2014-08-04 11:57:21 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Jane Austen's writing is pretty tight


She didn't get out much. Plus it was a bigger deal back then.

OH, her WRITING? *blushes*

/What a GILF tho
//GgggggILF
 
2014-08-04 11:58:22 AM  

Carn: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.

Another possible problem: you're not a woman.  They're all dreadful.


Why are you disparaging men? Does one have to be a woman to enjoy humor, class politics, and Enlightenment philosophy? Granted, the romance in Austen is doesn't have the "thrills" of being swept away by passion. She stresses that relationships need a rational basis and a level of financial security, which sure isn't the kind of moony, stalkerish passion portrayed on stories that guys really like - you know, like the Twilight books and 50 Shades of Imaginary Bondage.
 
2014-08-04 11:58:35 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300879/



Oh, that looks good, great cast, must watch soon.

As for TFA; Genteel gold-digging, the third oldest profession.
 
2014-08-04 11:58:57 AM  

Boo_Guy: When you finish the Jane Austin novel your next challenge awaits;

A Margret Atwood novel.


try early Ann Rice
 
2014-08-04 11:59:41 AM  

maxx2112: FTFH:   Victorian era Stephenie Meyer


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This.  Jane Austen was *mocking* the Stephanie Meyers of her era.  That was her whole schtick.  If you read Jane Austen without a little disdain in your heart, you'll miss the point.
 
2014-08-04 12:00:45 PM  

LazyMedia: RentalMetard: I remember having to write a paper about which one of the main characters in Pride and Prejudice represented pride and which represented prejudice.  I think my high school English teacher was illiterate or something.  All in all, it was a bit of a snoozefest, though I suppose there were some clever insights strewn throughout.  I did cite it for an essay on the AP Lit test, so it wasn't ENTIRELY useless.

It's still not as bad as Wuthering Heights, and none of Austen's novels are anywhere near as dreadful as anything written by Ayn Rand.  I think the horror of having to power through 1500 pages of Atlas Shrugged my senior year of high school left me with PTSD.

/it's a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune is usually too busy chasing tail to worry about women with no dowry

You had to read Ayn Rand for CLASS? Was your English teacher brain dead or something?


Yeah, I think maybe 3 of us actually finished it.  I managed to eat up an entire class period with a compare/contrast discussion of the Taggart/Rearden rape scene with the Scarlett O'Hara/Rhett rape scene.  It made a lot of people uncomfortable.  It also made them stop reading, so I consider it a success.

/also mounted a successful defense of Raskolnikov when we held a mock trial...anything to make lit class bearable
 
2014-08-04 12:02:11 PM  

SordidEuphemism: Solty Dog: Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?

I think Jane Austen With Gorillas would be worth watching.


Stone Cold Jane Austen vs. a gorilla.

Pay per view.
 
2014-08-04 12:02:47 PM  

RentalMetard: I remember having to write a paper about which one of the main characters in Pride and Prejudice represented pride and which represented prejudice.  I think my high school English teacher was illiterate or something.  All in all, it was a bit of a snoozefest, though I suppose there were some clever insights strewn throughout.  I did cite it for an essay on the AP Lit test, so it wasn't ENTIRELY useless.


I think the high schools are presenting it badly---they either need to teach Austen right, or don't try at all.  I just couldn't stand Pride and Prejudice in HS, but recently (10 years later), my GF convinced me to give Austen another try.  I have to say I actually enjoyed Pride and Prejudice this time.  I think it's wasted on teenagers to some degree.
 
2014-08-04 12:03:18 PM  

someonelse: Carn: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.

Another possible problem: you're not a woman.  They're all dreadful.

No, we're quite nice for the most part. Some of us are even able to enjoy Austen, the NFL, The Walking Dead, and a nice pedicure, all without breaking a sweat.


See, that's the difference between you and me. As a guy, having a woman touch my feet for twenty minutes would definitely make me break a sweat. But now that I think about it, taking a copy of Austen would help because it would give me something to either distract me or at least cover my lap.
 
2014-08-04 12:03:42 PM  

DeaH: Carn: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you, not her.

Another possible problem: you're not a woman.  They're all dreadful.

Why are you disparaging men? Does one have to be a woman to enjoy humor, class politics, and Enlightenment philosophy? Granted, the romance in Austen is doesn't have the "thrills" of being swept away by passion. She stresses that relationships need a rational basis and a level of financial security, which sure isn't the kind of moony, stalkerish passion portrayed on stories that guys really like - you know, like the Twilight books and 50 Shades of Imaginary Bondage.


Allow me to clarify my position.  Some men, especially literature lovers, like Jane Austen and that's just fine.  However, I would wager if you took a poll on "Do you like the works of Jane Austen or do you find them dreadfully boring?", I would wager substantial money that the gender of those replying in the former would be female by a large margin.  If you like it, good for you.
 
2014-08-04 12:05:04 PM  

Priapetic: LazyMedia: kxs401: If you find Jane Austen novels boring, the problem is with you your testosterone level, not her.

I acknowledge that Jane Austen is a great writer. But as a dude, I really, REALLY don't care if those girls find a husband. Like, exactly zero farks do I give.

/Finally was able to read Pride and Prejudice after they added zombie-fighting to it.

Came here to say exactly that.  I farking LOVE to read, and when I was younger, in high school, easily went through 4-5 books a week on top of classwork.  I enjoyed every single book in my AP English lit course (about 30 or so) except for one - Pride and Prejudice.  It's the only one I broke down and cliff's Notes'd.  I just couldn't take it.  Still makes me shudder.

/never heard about the zombie version though, interesting...


You will not regret it; it's a pile of awesome-coated awesome smothered in awesome sauce.

d.gr-assets.com
 
2014-08-04 12:05:11 PM  
I still don't understand what this has to do with Maya Angelou
 
2014-08-04 12:05:39 PM  

RentalMetard: You had to read Ayn Rand for CLASS? Was your English teacher brain dead or something?

Yeah, I think maybe 3 of us actually finished it.  I managed to eat up an entire class period with a compare/contrast discussion of the Taggart/Rearden rape scene with the Scarlett O'Hara/Rhett rape scene.  It made a lot of people uncomfortable.  It also made them stop reading, so I consider it a success.

/also mounted a successful defense of Raskolnikov when we held a mock trial...anything to make lit class bearable


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-04 12:06:15 PM  
Sign me up as a fan (somewhat obviously). I'll always enjoy dry, sarcastic wit and interesting use of language. My least favorite is Mansfield Park because I really did not like Fanny. Can't decide if Sense and Sensibility or Northanger Abbey is my favorite. Persuasion is a little too sad for me.

Oh, and the article? Anyone who thinks the books are about "love" and not about financial ambition (as well as a bunch of hilariously sarcastic comments on people) really needs to stop reading anything more challenging than USA Today.
 
2014-08-04 12:06:42 PM  
No Pride & Predator yet?

2.bp.blogspot.com

www.bestforfilm.com

Curious why Elton John comes up in a search for it though.
 
2014-08-04 12:07:55 PM  

Tom_Slick: stickandmove: Solty Dog: Is it bad that I thought Jane Austen was that woman that worked with gorillas?

You're thinking of Marie Curie

No that was Hedy Lemarr


HEDLY!
 
2014-08-04 12:10:34 PM  

ZAZ: Freakonomics did it.

I went to my high school English teacher saying I needed to draw a graph to figure out who was who. She had anticipated my need.


Loved that episode. Who knew she created Game Theory?
 
2014-08-04 12:11:30 PM  
Every single thing about Victorian England sucks.
 
2014-08-04 12:16:38 PM  
A underlying theme in Austen's books is that a woman's intelligence is worth more than any dowry or social standing.

Underlying theme in Meyer's book (I only read the first one) is that a girl should be punished in the most graphically violent manner possible for lusting over a guy.

Oh, and that chicks needs to be saved be saved by dudes.
 
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