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(SI Kids)   MLB pitchers take nearly 100 years to reach the 1 millionth strikeout in 1976, but just 38 years more to reach 2 million. Thanks for doing your part, Chris Davis   (sikids.com) divider line 43
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2014-08-04 08:56:18 AM  
hey now, let's not insult Ryan Howard or Mark Reynolds.  and i'm sure there are plenty more guys too.  Adam Dunn.  Dan Uggla.  BJ Upton.
 
2014-08-04 10:59:22 AM  
Sounds about right. I mean, with the changes made to the game, and there being half as many teams in 1908 and whatnot.
 
2014-08-04 10:59:49 AM  

SlothB77: Adam Dunn.


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-08-04 11:01:51 AM  
Single season K records by batters:

i291.photobucket.com

/the whiff
 
2014-08-04 11:02:42 AM  
Gorman Thomas?
 
2014-08-04 11:04:32 AM  

SlothB77: hey now, let's not insult Ryan Howard or Mark Reynolds.  and i'm sure there are plenty more guys too.  Adam Dunn.  Dan Uggla.  BJ Upton.


Can we insult reporters who refer to Major League Baseball as "the MLB"?
 
2014-08-04 11:09:08 AM  

SlothB77: hey now, let's not insult Ryan Howard or Mark Reynolds.  and i'm sure there are plenty more guys too.  Adam Dunn.  Dan Uggla.  BJ Upton.


Thank goodness Mark Reynolds was presented to correct subby. He is the Michelangelo of the strikeout, but still does pretty well considering he is blind.
 
2014-08-04 11:10:25 AM  
And they're complaining about shifts?

Banning shifts won't do anything unless you put the bat on the damn ball!
 
2014-08-04 11:10:30 AM  

SlothB77: hey now, let's not insult Ryan Howard or Mark Reynolds.  and i'm sure there are plenty more guys too.  Adam Dunn.  Dan Uggla.  BJ Upton.


Why do we always put the blame 100% on the batters? Those guys ARE good examples of swing-for-the-fences, all-or-nothing guys, but there have been major changes in pitching since the 1920's too. Sliders, splitters, cut fastballs, and the prevalence of 100 mph four-seamers all contribute to this as well.

Craig Kimbrel has struck out 15.1 per 9 innings for his entire career. 456 k's in 271 innings. That's insane.
 
2014-08-04 11:14:01 AM  
Oh, 2012 Curtis Granderson.......if you didn't have 40+ HRs and 100+ RBIs, I would have been openly rooting for you to get traded.

Surprisingly, when Mark Reynolds was with the Yankees for 36 games in 2013, he only struck out 31 times. That means at least 5 games without a strikeout.

That must have been a weird feeling for him.
 
2014-08-04 11:14:56 AM  
1976+36=2012
 
2014-08-04 11:25:03 AM  
Yeah, people underestimate how much better pitching has become in the last few decades.  If you could somehow magically transport the pitching staffs of today's teams to their 1950's counter-parts, the Hitters of that era would be completely helpless against them.  Your average position player from a Major League team in 1955 would make Ryan Howard look like a high contact guy.
 
2014-08-04 11:28:17 AM  
The time period for which I can (quickly) find good data starts in 1901, but from 1901 to 1976 there were 205,888 major league games. From 1977 to 2014 there have been 167,790. So the disparity in strike out rates isn't as great as whiffmitter suggests.
 
2014-08-04 11:30:23 AM  

Hoopy Frood: SlothB77: hey now, let's not insult Ryan Howard or Mark Reynolds.  and i'm sure there are plenty more guys too.  Adam Dunn.  Dan Uggla.  BJ Upton.

Can we insult reporters who refer to Major League Baseball as "the MLB"?


No, we have to do our part and citizen arrest those reporters and throw them in Guantanamo.
 
2014-08-04 11:33:37 AM  
So today is "hate on the 1st place Orioles day."  good to know.
 
2014-08-04 11:42:18 AM  

jpo2269: So today is "hate on the 1st place Orioles day."  good to know.


Nobody mentioned the Orioles until you did.......

Baltimore in 1st only because the AL East sucks this year.
 
2014-08-04 11:46:45 AM  

mainstreet62: jpo2269: So today is "hate on the 1st place Orioles day."  good to know.

Nobody mentioned the Orioles until you did.......

Baltimore in 1st only because the AL East sucks this year.


Second mention for them today on Fark...

Remember the entire Oriole organization and fans breathing a sigh of relief after trading away Jim Johnson? Well, about that
 
2014-08-04 11:49:31 AM  

mainstreet62: jpo2269: So today is "hate on the 1st place Orioles day."  good to know.

Nobody mentioned the Orioles until you did.......

Baltimore in 1st only because the AL East sucks this year.


Best record in Baseball
images.lazygamer.net
 
2014-08-04 11:56:06 AM  

degenerate-afro: Best record in Baseball


The A's and Angels would like a word.
 
2014-08-04 12:08:18 PM  
If the season ended today, it would be the Boobiesseason without the Yankees or Red Sox since 1993.
 
2014-08-04 12:38:12 PM  

UNC_Samurai: If the season ended today, it would be the Boobiesseason without the Yankees or Red Sox since 1993.


Nice.
 
2014-08-04 01:02:17 PM  

IlGreven: And they're complaining about shifts?

Banning shifts won't do anything unless you put the bat on the damn ball!


Two things counter shifts real well: bunts and homers. Major League hitters are supposed to be able to do one or the other.
 
2014-08-04 01:24:17 PM  

mainstreet62: degenerate-afro: Best record in Baseball

The A's and Angels would like a word.


and Dodgers, but I don't let facts get in the way of my delusions. :)
 
2014-08-04 01:32:51 PM  

mainstreet62: SlothB77: Adam Dunn.

Came for this, leaving satisfied.


Other than justifying his salary, I don't know how the Sox continue to put him in the lineup. Of course, I've thought that for four seasons now.
 
2014-08-04 01:51:07 PM  
Chris Davis is so damn good looking!

I'd let him penis my vagina if you know what I mean, and I think that you do!
 
2014-08-04 02:04:56 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: Single season K records by batters:

[i291.photobucket.com image 365x298]

/the whiff


Wait until Springer gets some full seasons under his belt.  He's gonna unseat Reggie Jackson, that one.
 
2014-08-04 02:08:19 PM  

Lifeless: Thanks for the Meme-ries: Single season K records by batters:

[i291.photobucket.com image 365x298]

/the whiff

Wait until Springer gets some full seasons under his belt.  He's gonna unseat Reggie Jackson, that one.


Just to compound my point, Springer has had more strikeouts than hits in his career  in the minors.  Reynolds, Davis, Cust, Sosa, Jackson, whoever... none of them have done that.
 
2014-08-04 02:08:26 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: Single season K records by batters:

[i291.photobucket.com image 365x298]

/the whiff


The single-season SO record of 223 was set in 2009, and every single entry on that list is from after 2006.

The single-season hit record Top 15 looks like this, and 12 of those were set before the year 2000. (I had thought Sisler's record was 223, parallel to the SO record set nearly 80 years later, but apparently not.) Sort of lends credence to the idea that it's the pitching getting better, as opposed to the hitting getting worse..

// Ichiro is the Ryan Howard of the latter list
 
2014-08-04 02:15:09 PM  

upndn: Gorman Thomas?


Hey now... if we're mentioning Brewers, it'd be a crime to not mention Rob Deer first.
 
2014-08-04 02:22:15 PM  
On the bright side, a power hitter striking out isn't hitting into a double play.

I'm looking at you, Paul Konerko.

You too, Albert Pujols.
 
2014-08-04 02:25:41 PM  

gameshowhost: upndn: Gorman Thomas?

Hey now... if we're mentioning Brewers, it'd be a crime to not mention Rob Deer first.


LOL....I remember playing MLB 92(?) or whatever it was called, on Sega Genesis, and I, for whatever reason would choose the Tigers.  Rob Deer, would ALWAYS, either strike out or homer.  Never, once, regardless of what team I chose to play against, did he do anything else in that game.
 
2014-08-04 02:59:02 PM  
That headline really hurt subby.

Chris Davis is on my fantasy team.  He may spend the rest of the year on the bench.  You no good, can't even break the Uecker line, striking out waste of a draft pick.
 
2014-08-04 03:31:50 PM  

The Bestest: IlGreven: And they're complaining about shifts?

Banning shifts won't do anything unless you put the bat on the damn ball!

Two things counter shifts real well: bunts and homers. Major League hitters are supposed to be able to do one or the other.


WhynotbothRickeyHenderson.jpeg.
 
2014-08-04 03:40:34 PM  

Vixen_Pot: Chris Davis is so damn good looking!

I'd let him penis my vagina if you know what I mean, and I think that you do!


Hey, how are you doing?

l.yimg.com
 
2014-08-04 03:59:49 PM  
Oh wow....it's very hot in here all of a sudden!

Baseball players do it for me...I recently had to break up with Will Middlebrooks because he got all engaged to Jenny Dell :(.

/I have roughly 8 players on my hallpass...not that it would EVER happen!
//Hubby has Kate Upton on his because of course he would!
 
2014-08-04 04:07:20 PM  
Of the top 50 strikeout leaders, only two (Killer & Mantle) didn't play after that milestone, a couple more (Dick Allen & Frank Robinson) retired within a year, and a dozen started before the millionth.  (I can't find the exact date, so I'm assuming Dale Murphy's nine games in '76 happened afterwards.)  So ya, between a lot of people dedicated to swinging at crap and more players in general (six teams started playing after the millionth), it's pretty obvious how this happened.
 
2014-08-04 04:19:55 PM  
Hey now, he's only 6th in strikeouts...what's that, everyone above him has at least 80 more at-bats this season?

/whatever Mike Trout's 8th...
 
2014-08-04 05:07:28 PM  
More teams, more games per year, more time between starts, greater reward for swinging for the fences.  No surprise.
 
2014-08-04 05:38:22 PM  

Wellon Dowd: The time period for which I can (quickly) find good data starts in 1901, but from 1901 to 1976 there were 205,888 major league games. From 1977 to 2014 there have been 167,790. So the disparity in strike out rates isn't as great as whiffmitter suggests.


You're omitting a quarter-century, or more if they count the NA. There are several yeah-buts to that, like shorter seasons and fewer teams, but guys didn't strike out nearly as much until swinging from the heels to try to hit the ball to Mars became acceptable, and even that didn't really kick in until after the first expansion in 1961/'62. Walter Johnson remained the only pitcher over 3,000 Ks until 1975. When center field is 500 feet away, you go up there looking to make contact. Pitchers didn't try to throw most of their pitches through a brick wall. Totally different basic game strategy.

Consider that Ruth led the league as a batter in Ks five times and was the all-time leader for decades despite a career high of 93 in a season.
 
2014-08-04 05:44:45 PM  
As a Brewers' fan, Mark Reynolds is worth every bit of his $1M this year.  He's got 19 HR.
 
2014-08-04 08:36:16 PM  

robbiex0r: As a Brewers' fan, Mark Reynolds is worth every bit of his $1M this year.  He's got 19 HR.


His defense is quite appreciated, but I really wish that he could hit .250.
 
2014-08-04 11:09:40 PM  
3 more strikeouts for Chris Davis tonight.
 
2014-08-05 01:05:43 PM  
I'm flabbergasted that Dave Kingman didn't make that list.
 
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