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(Orlando Sentinel)   Parents have no issue with sending their children to a school that received an "F" rating, but tell them they may have to get uniforms for their underachieving students and suddenly they give a damn   (orlandosentinel.com) divider line 152
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2014-08-03 11:27:00 PM  
I'll buy the ones that can't afford uniforms two sets if they promise to STFU.
 
2014-08-03 11:44:44 PM  
Perhaps there is a relationship between their attitudes and the poorly performing students?

/nah
 
2014-08-03 11:52:15 PM  
So far this time the criticism has centered on cost and the short notice.

THIS IS AN OUTR-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
2014-08-04 12:05:50 AM  
FTA: Some parents at the school where 87 percent of students receive free and reduced-price meals said they were caught off guard by the short notice - school starts Aug. 18 - and had already done their back-to-school shopping and couldn't afford to buy more clothes.


I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.
 
2014-08-04 12:08:05 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA: Some parents at the school where 87 percent of students receive free and reduced-price meals said they were caught off guard by the short notice - school starts Aug. 18 - and had already done their back-to-school shopping and couldn't afford to buy more clothes.


I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.


This week is tax free shopping week, they are lying if they said they shopped already.
 
2014-08-04 12:36:35 AM  

feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: FTA: Some parents at the school where 87 percent of students receive free and reduced-price meals said they were caught off guard by the short notice - school starts Aug. 18 - and had already done their back-to-school shopping and couldn't afford to buy more clothes.


I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

This week is tax free shopping week, they are lying if they said they shopped already.


Nope. Multiple sources say that Florida's Tax Free Weekend was from August 1-3, 2014.
 
2014-08-04 12:39:55 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.


Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.
 
2014-08-04 12:51:16 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: FTA: Some parents at the school where 87 percent of students receive free and reduced-price meals said they were caught off guard by the short notice - school starts Aug. 18 - and had already done their back-to-school shopping and couldn't afford to buy more clothes.


I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.


If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.
 
2014-08-04 12:53:42 AM  
Tax free weekend here was Aug 1-3 same as in FLA apparently.
It wasn't the entire week.
 
2014-08-04 12:56:26 AM  

optikeye: Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.


It would be nice to see a farker do something so kind, especially something that will probably cost tens of thousands of dollars.  feckingmorons might get a positive story about Fark on the news.
 
2014-08-04 01:16:48 AM  

SphericalTime: optikeye: Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.

It would be nice to see a farker do something so kind, especially something that will probably cost tens of thousands of dollars.  feckingmorons might get a positive story about Fark on the news.


We could set something up and donate. I'd kick in a few bucks. I can see the need.
 
2014-08-04 01:22:54 AM  

feckingmorons: Bathia_Mapes: FTA: Some parents at the school where 87 percent of students receive free and reduced-price meals said they were caught off guard by the short notice - school starts Aug. 18 - and had already done their back-to-school shopping and couldn't afford to buy more clothes.


I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

This week is tax free shopping week, they are lying if they said they shopped already.



A lot of poor people buy at the first of the month when they still have some paycheck left, or buy when they end up with an "extra" paycheck in a given month (e.g., a calendar month that results in three paychecks rather than two).
 
2014-08-04 01:23:11 AM  

sethen320: SphericalTime: optikeye: Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.

It would be nice to see a farker do something so kind, especially something that will probably cost tens of thousands of dollars.  feckingmorons might get a positive story about Fark on the news.

We could set something up and donate. I'd kick in a few bucks. I can see the need.


I'm in.  I bet the parents will continue to biatch about something, anything at all, instead of facing the simple fact that their kids are failing in school and they aren't any farking help because they don't care.  In other words, they fail as parents.  However, I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
2014-08-04 01:24:11 AM  

sethen320: SphericalTime: optikeye: Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.

It would be nice to see a farker do something so kind, especially something that will probably cost tens of thousands of dollars.  feckingmorons might get a positive story about Fark on the news.

We could set something up and donate. I'd kick in a few bucks. I can see the need.


Sounds like an idea for a kickstarter
 
2014-08-04 01:26:37 AM  
Why should we donate when someone already said they'd pay the entire bill.


Unless.

feckingmorons: they are lying

 
2014-08-04 01:27:46 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.



In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.
 
2014-08-04 01:31:09 AM  
Just make the school uniform consist of saggy jorts and oversized t-shirts with bedazzled crowns and shiat on 'em, and wah lah, all the students already have uniforms
 
2014-08-04 01:32:12 AM  
Making the shiats wear uniforms won't make them any smarter or improve their standardized test scores.
How about the school worry about something productive?
 
2014-08-04 01:36:28 AM  

ReverendJasen: Making the shiats wear uniforms won't make them any smarter or improve their standardized test scores.
How about the school worry about something productive?


It helps them concentrate more in class and removes a potential element for distraction and discipline issues.
 
2014-08-04 01:38:02 AM  

FizixJunkee: Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies. It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.


X1000
We just had to send in red pens for teacher, erasers and sharpies for the farking black(white)board, etc.  Give it a couple years, they'll be adding furnace filters and mop heads to the farking list.
 
2014-08-04 01:39:20 AM  
CSB:

When I was in sixth grade my family moved from the Tampa Bay area to Silicon Valley.

I am not an idiot by any means, but I was almost a year behind in math based on florida vs. California standards. I had to do a shiat ton of extra work to not be held back. The last thing florida needs to be worrying about is uniforms.
 
2014-08-04 01:39:21 AM  

optikeye: Bathia_Mapes: I think the parents have every right to be upset if the decision to require mandatory uniforms wasn't properly communicated to them on such short notice. A lot of people live paycheck to paycheck and simply cannot afford to buy additional clothing.

Fecking said he would do it....get in him in touch with the school board and the parents. You should have his name...he said he would do it...MAKE IT HAPPEN.


He might even get on FarkTV!
 
2014-08-04 01:42:23 AM  

ReverendJasen: FizixJunkee: Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies. It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.

X1000
We just had to send in red pens for teacher, erasers and sharpies for the farking black(white)board, etc.  Give it a couple years, they'll be adding furnace filters and mop heads to the farking list.


That kid you are buying supplies for, he or his classmate will one day be deciding whether or not you can still carry on a life worth living if you have XXX surgery. Let's provide funds for his education.
 
2014-08-04 01:42:41 AM  

ReverendJasen:  Give it a couple years, they'll be adding furnace filters and mop heads to the farking list.


It wouldn't surprise me.
 
2014-08-04 01:44:07 AM  
Never been a big fan of school uniforms. Private schools can do as they like, but I never really liked it for public schools.
 
2014-08-04 01:45:38 AM  

jst3p: CSB:

When I was in sixth grade my family moved from the Tampa Bay area to Silicon Valley.

I am not an idiot by any means, but I was almost a year behind in math based on florida vs. California standards. I had to do a shiat ton of extra work to not be held back. The last thing florida needs to be worrying about is uniforms.


Different states, school districts, and even schools often teach things in different orders.  In my high school the social studies curriculum was 9th grade - US History, 10th - Civics and Economics, and 11th - World History.  Other districts did things in a different order, so sometimes kids transferring in would be put into classes with different grade levels to bring things back in sync.

That's one of the big reasons behind the push towards Common Core - to standardize the order in which things are taught nationwide so that comparisons between states can be made more easily, and so that students who transfer between schools, districts, and states, will have an easier time picking up where the left off.
 
2014-08-04 01:46:05 AM  

jst3p: CSB:

When I was in sixth grade my family moved from the Tampa Bay area to Silicon Valley.

I am not an idiot by any means, but I was almost a year behind in math based on florida vs. California standards. I had to do a shiat ton of extra work to not be held back. The last thing florida needs to be worrying about is uniforms.


I had the opposite.  Moved from Chicago to central Louisiana after third grade.  It was about a year before I hit any math I didn't see, and I felt leagues ahead of the other kids in the other subjects.

But that could have just been because I read a book every now and then.  Reading wasn't stigmatized in my first school, but certainly was in LA.
 
2014-08-04 01:47:51 AM  

jst3p: That kid you are buying supplies for, he or his classmate will one day be deciding whether or not you can still carry on a life worth living if you have XXX surgery. Let's provide funds for his education.



I'm happy to pay property taxes (at about $500/month, far cheaper than coastal Califoria, New Jersey, etc., but nothing to snicker at) to support quality public education, but clearly what we're paying in taxes isn't enough to support schools if parents have to buy supplies that the school district should have to pay for.

Heck, it would be better if we just wrote a check at the beginning of the school year and had the school buy supplies directly: it would be more efficient, and the school could get a wholesale discount, which would make supplies cheaper, too.  The system, as is, is broken.
 
2014-08-04 01:47:54 AM  
Know who else liked all the kids to dress the same?

2.bp.blogspot.com

www.democratic-republicans.us
 
2014-08-04 01:49:28 AM  
I'll have my wife put on her uniform and I'll make an impartial assessment of the potential benefits of their use.


See ya later.
 
2014-08-04 02:00:10 AM  
My Sons high school does not have that uniform rule, that ,many other cities have. I remember when back in another state, it was enacted, and people whined, but it still went into effect.  They find a way. Parents saying they have so much money, yet can't afford to take care of their own crotch fruit, because it impacts their ability, and I'm not kidding, I've seen it, their ability, because they've budgeted X amount of money for liquor.
 
2014-08-04 02:02:09 AM  
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2014-08-04 02:07:26 AM  

jst3p: That kid you are buying supplies for, he or his classmate will one day be deciding whether or not you can still carry on a life worth living if you have XXX surgery. Let's provide funds for his education.


We're not buying supplies for kids whose parents' are poor.  We're buying consumable supplies for the school to use.  Things that the school should already have.

Cut the goddamn military budget, stop giving tax breaks to corporations intent on farking us over, and farking fund the educational system again.

Asshole Republicans want to biatch about their tax money going to schools?  Well this is what you get when that gets cut, you morons.  You now get to pay more money out of pocket directly to the school just so they can afford toilet paper so your kid can wipe his ass.
 
2014-08-04 02:11:19 AM  

FizixJunkee: TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.


In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.


Schools in California most certainly do *not* provide school supplies. It's possible that some schools do, but my child had never been given free school supplies from school ever.
In California, low-income families do get free uniforms if a school uniform policy is in place at the school. Some are hand-me-downs, but most must be bought with the school's money, since they are required to provide them to needy children. I've volunteered at a school that had quite a bit of low-income students, and the principal was forced to do away with things such as soap and paper towels in the bathrooms and tissues in the classroom to buy uniforms. NCLB punishes a low-performing school by taking away funding, which makes it even harder on the already struggling school, then some well-meaning but stupid person suggests a uniform policy and the school goes even more broke trying to pay for uniforms. How does that make sense?
 
2014-08-04 02:17:16 AM  

FizixJunkee: TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.


In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.


It's the same in Maryland, and I'm talking Montgomery County which is one of the most affluent counties in the country. Also in AZ your buying the same type of supplies. I don't mind but I can see the extra $100 would impact someone on a fixed income.

As to the uniforms...let's see how many of these kids are coming to school in $100 Nike's or $20-30 shirts and jeans because it's what they "have" to wear. My kids go to a charter school that requires uniforms and it's a whole lot cheaper going back to school shopping. Having fashion as a distraction isn't an issue at the school my kids go to and I'm all for it and IMHO it does make a difference.
 
2014-08-04 02:19:50 AM  
www.dvice.com
Just because it was random.
 
2014-08-04 02:22:24 AM  
cdn2.fashionablygeek.com
And this one because it is random and creepy.
 
2014-08-04 02:31:30 AM  

TheLondonLook: Schools in California most certainly do *not* provide school supplies. It's possible that some schools do, but my child had never been given free school supplies from school ever.


Our daughter's school in Los Angeles provided all supplies.
 
2014-08-04 02:38:51 AM  

vicioushobbit: jst3p: CSB:

When I was in sixth grade my family moved from the Tampa Bay area to Silicon Valley.

I am not an idiot by any means, but I was almost a year behind in math based on florida vs. California standards. I had to do a shiat ton of extra work to not be held back. The last thing florida needs to be worrying about is uniforms.

I had the opposite.  Moved from Chicago to central Louisiana after third grade.  It was about a year before I hit any math I didn't see, and I felt leagues ahead of the other kids in the other subjects.

But that could have just been because I read a book every now and then.  Reading wasn't stigmatized in my first school, but certainly was in LA.


Yeah but didn't you know that they should be in control of their own standards and they don't need common core to keep up with everyone else just a little and furthermore
 
2014-08-04 02:44:19 AM  

SouthParkCon: As to the uniforms...let's see how many of these kids are coming to school in $100 Nike's or $20-30 shirts and jeans because it's what they "have" to wear. My kids go to a charter school that requires uniforms and it's a whole lot cheaper going back to school shopping. Having fashion as a distraction isn't an issue at the school my kids go to and I'm all for it and IMHO it does make a difference.


It's the way of the world, mate. You're judged on clothes. Look like a slob people will respond to that. Hiding kids behind the facade of a jumper or a button up shirt doesn't stop that.

Beside, in every school I've ever been at with uniforms the number one thing everyone who cares does is trying to differentiate themselves somehow - jewelry, accessories, hair things, wrist bands, watches, whatever. Kids like to be personalized. If they didn't, where would the market be for Bort licence plates?
 
2014-08-04 02:50:01 AM  
Uniforms are going to fix the problem how?
 
2014-08-04 02:53:34 AM  
I'm completely neutral to the idea of school uniforms, wear them or don't, but don't make parents provide them without at least a semester's notice.  As for lists of school supplies, I refuse to buy any that aren't specific to my kid.  The teacher can buy his/her own red pens, markers, and kleenex. The teacher might as well be leaving a tip jar on the desk.

 Yeah, I know, underpaid teacher with no support, but it is an occupational cost at this point.  I'll volunteer time, but the teacher can take his/her supply issue up to the district and the district can bring it up to the parents and voters.  I've suggested several specific administrative positions be eliminated for cost savings, but no one listens to me, sorry teach.
 
2014-08-04 02:53:45 AM  

FizixJunkee: TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.


In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.


Welcome to almost every school district in America.
 
2014-08-04 02:56:56 AM  

ReverendJasen: FizixJunkee: Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies. It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.

X1000
We just had to send in red pens for teacher, erasers and sharpies for the farking black(white)board, etc.  Give it a couple years, they'll be adding furnace filters and mop heads to the farking list.


hehehe. I work selling office supplies.

It's an absolute nightmare filling these lists. I break them down into 3 types

1) The reasonable list - school supplies, maybe a box of tissues. Otherwise, it's just a list of supplies. They're remarkably close to the generic "This is what you need for an 8th grader" lists we have. These are increasingly rare.

2) The Hyper-Specific - "The student must have 3 1/2" round-ring 3-ring binders binders in red, yellow and blue with inserts" Problem: I've worked in office supplies for 10 years. We have never sold red blue and yellow 1/2 binders. 1/2" binders are business tools, they come in black and white. (the easy fix: A white one with colored paper inserts.). The reason for the insanity? The teachers are so obsessed with putting the student into a single organizational method that they color code and specify brands on everything. My favorite was one list this year that demanded 3 subject Mead plastic-front, plastic ringed notebooks. I've never seen them except on Amazon. I know this woulda killed me, I never liked that level of organization. Another one they love throwing: Demanding only Ticonderoga pre-sharpened pencils (that cost 6.50 a box of 20, compared to my store's 10 back unsharpened pencils, for a dollar.)

3) The Supply Shop - these lists have a few things like notebooks and pencils, but honestly? Most of it is for the classroom. One local one this year requests 6 boxes of tissues per student. Personally, I can only assume the teacher stuffs her bra and is sweaty. Another demanded a large package of paper towels - the big ones you see people wheel out of Costco. My favorite was one that also wanted parents to provide rolls of colored paper for bulletin boards.
 
2014-08-04 02:59:46 AM  

real_headhoncho: And this one because it is random and creepy.


Haha that's awesome. In a weird Wtf pedo-vibe way.

Tom Bombadil is one FU€KED up dude.
 
2014-08-04 03:02:58 AM  

TheLondonLook: FizixJunkee: TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.


In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.

Schools in California most certainly do *not* provide school supplies. It's possible that some schools do, but my child had never been given free school supplies from school ever.


I don't know how it is now in Michigan, but when I was still in school, the law there (state law) was that the school had to provide basic supplies such as paper and pencils and such as required by the course work.  There was a "within reason" threshold though.  I couldn't just go grab a ream of paper and a box of pencils whenever I liked.  Also, it only required providing the most basic resources required by the coursework.

If you needed folders or binders to hold your homework, additional pens, or other supplies beyond the basics, you were on your own.  IIRC, basic art supplies (tape, markers, poster board, etc.) were provided for the occasional activity that needed them.  But if you were in some extracurricular that needed them, then the school wasn't required to provide it.

In our particular district, we often oscillated between pay-to-play and school-funded extracurriculars (including band and choir) that depended on whether the most recent millage increase got approved.  Our district was always on the edge between the two.  They also played all sorts of crazy games with the length of the school day, class periods and lunch periods based on whether the millage passed.  In a good year everything was funded, we had 55 minute classes with 5 minutes passing time and a 35 minute lunch, giving a 6 1/2 hour day.  In a bad year, it was pay-to-play, 47 minute classes with 4 minutes passing-time, and a 28 minute lunch, giving a 5 1/2 hour day.  Or something like that.  That was over half a lifetime ago, so my memory is maybe a bit fuzzy.

Looking back, we had it fairly easy compared to the stories I hear these days.  Good grief.

Fund the dang schools!
 
2014-08-04 03:05:39 AM  

TheMysticS: FizixJunkee: TuteTibiImperes: If the school requires uniforms it should be required to provide uniforms for free or at  reduced cost for students on the free or reduced cost lunch program.


In California, schools provide all school supplies, including pencils and paper.  Not so in Georgia, apparently (as we found out).

Here in Atlanta, the mandatory school supply list includes red pens for the teacher to use for grading, Kleenex brand tissues (yes, they specified the brand), paper towels, Purell hand sanitizer, and other classroom supplies.  It's one thing for us parents to have to buy notebooks and crayons; it's another thing altogether to have to buy supplies that the school system should be providing.

Welcome to almost every school district in America.


Ha. My local district, here in the wealthiest few townships in Johnson County, KS faced having to lay off it's entire arts dept. The locals were all
"lol, no, we'll just pay for that shiat ourselves, it costs nothing". The state said no. Other towns, on both sides of the state line chimed in saying it was unfair that we could do so. We took it to court. The state lost. Hard. Now the arts dept. is funded, salaries and supplies for years. Good times.
 
2014-08-04 03:11:12 AM  

gadian: I'm completely neutral to the idea of school uniforms, wear them or don't, but don't make parents provide them without at least a semester's notice.  As for lists of school supplies, I refuse to buy any that aren't specific to my kid.  The teacher can buy his/her own red pens, markers, and kleenex. The teacher might as well be leaving a tip jar on the desk.

 Yeah, I know, underpaid teacher with no support, but it is an occupational cost at this point.  I'll volunteer time, but the teacher can take his/her supply issue up to the district and the district can bring it up to the parents and voters.  I've suggested several specific administrative positions be eliminated for cost savings, but no one listens to me, sorry teach.


Don't have kids, do ya?

Seriously, if you do, and you don't buy what is asked for, another parent has to pick up the slack.
Lots of parents bought very little on the lists- sometimes not enough for their own child's work.
They always count on others to pick up their slack-these types- and they don't care. I've had to buy cupcakes for a class of 20+ kids more than once (elementary kids) celebrating birthdays because the parent wouldn't do it, or told their kid no, or cancelled at the last minute. Poor babies, embarrassed and sad.
 
2014-08-04 03:20:30 AM  

TheMysticS: Don't have kids, do ya?


I do.  I'm just not going to provide a teacher's wishlist of supplies.  You can teach without fancy colored markers, multi-colored papers, 25 gigantor bottles of hand sanitizer, 25 economy sized boxes of kleenex and a million little tabs of velcro stickies all over the walls. If the teacher feels they need those to teach, they can purchase them.  I'll pay higher property taxes to purchase those things with, but I won't give personal handouts to teachers.
 
2014-08-04 04:07:07 AM  

gadian: TheMysticS: Don't have kids, do ya?

I do.  I'm just not going to provide a teacher's wishlist of supplies.  You can teach without fancy colored markers, multi-colored papers, 25 gigantor bottles of hand sanitizer, 25 economy sized boxes of kleenex and a million little tabs of velcro stickies all over the walls.


What's with all the hand sanitizer these days, anyway?  We never had that crap growing up.  Are they drinking it?

And Kleenex... that stuff's relatively expensive, even if you buy it in bulk, if you buy the name-brand Kleenex.  I bought the 48-pack of 125-tissue boxes, and even with the bulk discount it's about $1.70/box.  That really adds up quick!  If you buy individual boxes at the grocery store the prices are easily twice that or more per tissue.
 
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