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(The Raw Story)   Teenager in Aurora, Colorado trots around town carrying a shotgun, says he's free to do what he wants and to hell with everyone still concerned about the theater shooting; he has the Second Amendment on his side   (rawstory.com) divider line 142
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2014-08-04 03:13:09 AM
12 votes:
i2.photobucket.com
2014-08-04 06:37:11 AM
11 votes:
i.ytimg.com
Gimme a case of shells and a case of them Little Debbie snack cakes,
2014-08-04 09:27:59 AM
10 votes:
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
media.giphy.com
2014-08-04 06:34:18 AM
10 votes:

kim jong-un: fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.

Most shotguns are very precise. They fire different types of shells, and if its loaded with a slug its as accurate as any other firearm.

But you would know that if you had any experience with firearms other than what you learned in videogames.

www.memelets.com
2014-08-03 10:42:23 PM
10 votes:
He was actually trotting?
2014-08-04 06:22:09 AM
9 votes:
This kid is so goddamn lucky he's white.
2014-08-04 12:01:31 AM
9 votes:
He should convert one hand to a chainsaw to complete the ensemble.
2014-08-04 06:31:57 AM
8 votes:

August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?


No. You should be feeding your unicorn some New York City salsa!
2014-08-04 12:38:47 AM
8 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com
2014-08-04 08:12:28 AM
7 votes:
img.fark.net

www.slantmagazine.com
2014-08-04 06:38:02 AM
7 votes:

August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?


SSSHHut uuup! You're not supposed to let the nutjobs know liberals have guns too. Weren't you at the meeting last week?
2014-08-04 08:58:16 AM
6 votes:

scarbachi: Oh thank god some fat teenager in Aurora is attention whoring for his own safety, and those around him. That dude needs to touch some boobies and STFU.


If he wants to touch boobies, all he needs to do is take a shower.
2014-08-04 06:56:22 AM
6 votes:
Needing to show ID when buying alcohol if you look under 21? Fine.
Needing to show ID when buying cigarettes if you look under 18? Fine.
Needing to show ID when buying R-rated movie tickets if you look under 17? A-OK.
Needing to show ID when voting if you...well, I don't know what? Patriotically combatting voter fraud.

Needing to show ID when carrying a shotgun if you look under 18? HITLER!
2014-08-04 08:18:41 AM
5 votes:

heavymetal: it will not go off unless you pull the trigger but is always ready to go if an emergency need arises.


Just curious, has the need ever actually arisen?

Like, have you ever been walking down the aisle at walmart with your shootin' iron on your hip and suddenly a race riot broke out in Housewares or a gay rapist jumped at you from behind the paper towels and you found you suddenly needed to distribute a few Freedom Holes at a split second's notice?
2014-08-04 06:18:12 AM
5 votes:
Gun thread?

stream1.gifsoup.com
2014-08-03 10:18:52 PM
5 votes:
What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.
2014-08-04 11:16:45 AM
4 votes:
Trolls are funny in these kind of threads:

"So what it's legal"
"Yeah, we know.. he's still a twat"
"But it's legal nngg!"
"Uuh, yeah.. Anyway, look at the stupid fat virgin haha"
"fhhhssssgggg 2nd Amendment!"
"Dude, we know .. Check it out, he's even called Loner! hahaha"
"PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!"

/and scene
2014-08-04 08:21:32 AM
4 votes:

I alone am best: I am glad everyone in this thread is OK with stopping people and asking for ID based on their appearance. Just to make sure they are not breaking the law.

This should help us to clear up our immigration problem a little faster.


24.media.tumblr.com
2014-08-04 08:13:20 AM
4 votes:

zamboni: You must show me your papers before you are allowed to use your Constitutional rights... just like voting, speaking, writing, congregating etc.

Scary


Or like being brown and living in Arizona, or being black and living in NYC. If you don't want to suffer from these draconian "white people problems", you can choose to leave the gun at home.

Some liberal group should start an outreach program where they facilitate black and latino youths with transportation and large firearms so they can LEGALLY wander the streets of nice white neighborhoods. Then you can watch the NRA lobby themselves into a knot.
2014-08-04 07:13:25 AM
4 votes:
These douchenozzles would do their cause much better service by inviting a friend who never held a gun to the range. Parading around visibly armed while claiming it's so he could defend himself and others from some vaporous "enemy" smacks of dumbass comic book heroics.

Was he walking around some dodgy neighborhood escorting fair maidens home from a kegger?
2014-08-04 06:36:20 AM
4 votes:

Czechzican: You know this kid isn't doing it to exercise his whatever ammendment right. He is just doing to to be a little snot-rag. He's doing it to get a rise out of people that are still upset about a mass shooting. Negative attention is better than no attention.


Looks like he doesn't exercise at all.

/Listen fattie, drop the gun, drop 40 pounds, and pick up a guitar if you want to get laid.
2014-08-04 06:36:06 AM
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: When I was growing up, there were only three reason to leave the house without a gun, and two of those were church and school.


The third is a trip to the post office.
2014-08-04 02:19:41 AM
4 votes:
We hit peak wank in this thread pretty quickly.
2014-08-04 12:48:10 AM
4 votes:

Yaw String: Insert token masturbation reference here.


Nut-Rubbing Anuses
2014-08-03 11:43:08 PM
4 votes:
Lohner then proceeds to argue with the officers, refusing to show them ID or hand over the shotgun insisting he hasn't committed a crime before being cited by the officer on a misdemeanor obstruction charge for refusing to show his identification


According to Lohner, who says he's been stopped multiple times and never had to show ID, he's on a mission to make people more comfortable about guns.


Mission Accomplished!

/for values of "accomplished" which include 'creeping people out and reinforcing the idea that gun owners rank somewhere between "registered sex offender" and "kettle drum designer" as neighbors.'

Nice work, asshat.
2014-08-04 10:02:02 AM
3 votes:

www.rawstory.com


I do not avoid women.  But I... I do deny them my essence.

2014-08-04 09:42:41 AM
3 votes:
Has nobody else noted the resemblance

i.chzbgr.com
2014-08-04 09:35:09 AM
3 votes:

Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.


img.fark.net

it's also legal to walk around dressed up as hitler.
2014-08-04 09:32:02 AM
3 votes:

lilbjorn: Drop what charges?  What do you imagine he is charged with?


My money is on "village idiocy without a permit".
2014-08-04 09:04:13 AM
3 votes:

kim jong-un: fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.

Most shotguns are very precise. They fire different types of shells, and if its loaded with a slug its as accurate as any other firearm.

But you would know that if you had any experience with firearms other than what you learned in videogames.


Irony defined.
2014-08-04 09:00:24 AM
3 votes:

Englebert Slaptyback: Really? HIs last name is Lohner? So he's a Lohner with a gun?

(See, 'cause 'Lohner' sounds like 'loner'.)

[img.fark.net image 615x345]


So a cop stops him, and he refuses to give any information , so the cop radios in th HQ, says: "I have the strangest loner right now."
2014-08-04 08:35:26 AM
3 votes:
"You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole!"
2014-08-04 07:58:55 AM
3 votes:
Brown people show ID to vote: Perfectly reasonable, and prudent.
White teenaager show ID to tote firearm around populated areas: 1984! 2nd Amendment!! Hitler! Waaaaaaah!!
2014-08-04 07:51:52 AM
3 votes:
Kid looks like:
mlpchan.net

/m'lady
2014-08-04 07:06:33 AM
3 votes:
Lorelle:  Why are they always so white and pasty??

Because some basements are not equipped with sun lamps and tanning beds.
2014-08-04 07:06:14 AM
3 votes:
Christ, what an asshole.
2014-08-04 06:25:29 AM
3 votes:
Kid needs to find a girlfriend.
2014-08-04 03:07:02 AM
3 votes:
Sorry kid but the gun doesn't make you look cooler.
You still look like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
2014-08-04 10:40:58 AM
2 votes:

PreMortem: If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city. The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.
And if you had a lick of sense you would know most liberals are against stop and frisk, police checkpoints, voter ID laws, illegal searches and seizures, etc... . Conservatives have the market cornered on the desire for a police state.
It seems to me you have a lot more concern for his right to carry a shotgun than the cops demanding an ID. I wonder how you feel about stopping brown people and asking for their papers. Well, not really.


You could have stopped right there where he thinks that cops are liberals.
2014-08-04 10:35:46 AM
2 votes:
How many wolf t-shirts does this kid own?
A) 2 to 3
B) 4 to 5
C) 6 or more
2014-08-04 10:05:25 AM
2 votes:
Yay Gun Thread!!


Found a quick easy way to refinish the furniture on an AK for all you combloc fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeQeP3a8aXc


You are welcome.
2014-08-04 09:18:46 AM
2 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.

He wasn't cited for carrying the gun, he was cited for refusing to provide identification, which was a valid request as by his appearance it was not clear whether or not he was old enough to be legally carrying the weapon.

He has no grounds to stand on to sue.


But I heard  Trailltrader has a GED in law.  How could he possibly be wrong?
2014-08-04 09:06:37 AM
2 votes:
Penis.
2014-08-04 08:34:20 AM
2 votes:
Now take a good look at this punk. What we have here is a prime example of why you need to beat your kids.
2014-08-04 08:04:30 AM
2 votes:
We're missing the main point here, and it is by far the saddest.

At 18 years of age this guy's dick doesn't work. At least I'm assuming since he feels the need to carry around a substitute with him out in public. He needs a doctor or a girlfriend or both.
2014-08-04 08:04:15 AM
2 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com

Second amendment! Second amendment! Second amendemeeeeeeeeeeent!

I guess I'd be an angry, recalcitrant nutjob too if I were eighteen years old and looked like a two hundred pound toddler...
2014-08-04 07:20:37 AM
2 votes:

Rhaab: Christ, what an asshole.


Even lots of pro-gun folks think Open Carry assholes are assholes because they're bright enough to realize it's hurting their own cause. NOBODY is coming away with a more positive view of guns after interacting with that pasty sack of asshole-flavored walrus blubber.

As someone who is in favor of more firearms regulation, this shiat is great. If you're an asshole gun owner who's gonna turn the public towards gun regulation, by all means; parade up and down sites where shooting sprees occurred while holding a shotgun, loudly braying about how what you're doing is legal. Please; try your best to upset and terrify as many people as possible.
2014-08-04 07:18:27 AM
2 votes:
If you believe that:

* a black guy walking down the street minding his own business is fair game for stop and frisk because he "might" be packing heat, but
* a white guy openly toting a shotgun in public must be left alone,

then you might be a wingnut.
2014-08-04 07:13:56 AM
2 votes:

FightDirector: Sometimes, you have to break one of the rules of gun safety (usually the "consider it always loaded", but sometimes the "never put your finger on the trigger until ready to shoot" - thank you Glock takedown procedure).  However, when you do so, you have to triple-check each of the other three safety rules.

To reference the "Glock" comment above - the procedure to field-strip a Glock pistol requires that you pull the trigger to release the slide&barrel assembly from the frame.  Therefore, you need to triple-check that the firearm is pointed in a safe direction, that you're aware of what is behind what it's pointed at, and that the firearm has been unloaded.  Triple-check each of those, and *then* it's safe to put your finger on that trigger.


So, educate me a little here:  Is there some innate reason why guns need to be such touchy, unstable things that will blow your hand off if you look at them wrong, or is it just that it would be freedom-destroying tyranny to try to encourage a little bit of a redesign?  We build cars that run perfectly fine for years without needing an untrained mechanic tinkering around with them constantly and accidentally blowing up the gas tank; why should guns need so much more attention?

Or is the constant cleaning and tinkering and fondling part of the attraction in the first place?
2014-08-04 07:13:13 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.


It appears that he has a reflex sight mounted on the shotgun, so of course he is not going to hit anyone but his target!

/sarcasm
2014-08-04 06:59:37 AM
2 votes:
When asked to provide ID proving his age, Lohner refused to do so, while videotaping the encounter (seen below) on his phone.

Oh he's one of those assholes.
2014-08-04 06:55:58 AM
2 votes:
Behold a future spittle flecked arsehole. Bet his hero is Ted Nugent.
2014-08-04 06:43:29 AM
2 votes:

Mentat: We hit peak wank in this thread pretty quickly.


Drew has been corrupted by the wankery-industrial complex.

Delay: Maybe they are just compensating or something.


Careful, you're coming close to violating Malarkey's Law, or something.

charlesmartel11235: [beta.img.cbsnews.com image 640x480]


He really does have a Ted Cruz-level of punchable face.

ScaryBottles: kim jong-un: fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.

Most shotguns are very precise. They fire different types of shells, and if its loaded with a slug its as accurate as any other firearm.

But you would know that if you had any experience with firearms other than what you learned in videogames.
[www.memelets.com image 769x595]


Something something you have been banned from r/pyongyang.
2014-08-04 06:42:05 AM
2 votes:

whitman00: zamboni:

You must show me your papers before you are allowed to use your Constitutional rights... just like voting, speaking, writing, congregating etc.

Scary

So, if the MS13 street gang came to your street and were open carrying, you are on record that the police have no right to ask them anything unless.  Good to know.


Homeboy there in the pic might be a hair safer with a gun, as it's likely he knows someone who got the business end of one.

Pasty McWobblecheeks will likely never encounter a similar situation, unless he starts shiat himself.
2014-08-04 06:27:01 AM
2 votes:
As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?
2014-08-04 06:22:26 AM
2 votes:
I now believe that these protests are started with:
"Betcha I can make tha news."
2014-08-04 06:05:13 AM
2 votes:
dl.dropboxusercontent.com
Um, I hope it wasn't loaded during the filming of this.

/ Gun is always loaded...
2014-08-04 02:00:00 AM
2 votes:
Didn't you guys watch the damn Lego Movie?
2014-08-04 01:24:49 AM
2 votes:

zamboni: feckingmorons: Well it is legal isn't it?

Sounds like a legislative concern if you don't like it.

This.

And if you have no problem with the government stopping you from doing something that is completely legal...go ahead and stop him from doing something that's completely legal... just because it's something that you don't happen to support.


Nothing wrong with making fun of him though, it is our right. I strongly support gun rights, but attention whores out and about with the longer guns in populated, developed areas deserve a wordy jab.
2014-08-04 12:32:40 AM
2 votes:

Lorelle: Cewley: Nuts Ruining America.

Nutty Raving Assholes.


Naive retarded asshats.
2014-08-04 12:29:16 AM
2 votes:
I love the part of the video at about 1:00 where he's pointing the thing directly at his own face for like 10 seconds.

Fat, ugly, no-doubt-virgin white trash high schooler looking for a sense of empowerment through guns.  Hopefully he can work through enough of his bitterness and self-hate by being a public asshat that he won't end up shooting up his school.
2014-08-04 12:13:40 AM
2 votes:

Cewley: Nuts Ruining America.


Nutty Raving Assholes.

Why are they always so white and pasty??
2014-08-04 12:09:33 AM
2 votes:

Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.



i253.photobucket.com

2014-08-03 11:52:09 PM
2 votes:
Have you seen the kid? Tipping intensifies.
2014-08-04 05:27:27 PM
1 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Brainsick: Lenny_da_Hog: Fart_Machine: It's not unusual for the police to get calls about some guy stumbling around drunk in public. The can and will investigate if they find the guy. Likewise if someone is wandering around with a shotgun they'll probably do the same thing.

Not the same scenario.

I said I saw you with alcohol.  I didn't say I saw you stumbling around exhibiting signs of drunkenness.

The latter is reasonable suspicion. It's an actual behavior you're engaging in that makes it *reasonable* to suspect you're breaking a law.

The former is just you possessing something which sometimes leads to a crime, but most often doesn't, just because I don't like alcohol based on my experience with people who use it.

If they had seen the guy with the shotgun creeping around behind buildings, stalking someone, threatening someone, that would a reason to suspect he was up to no good. He was just walking down the street with a possession.

So if I'm 'just walking down the street' with, say, a chainsaw in hand (not running, of course, but fueled up and ready), two machetes in my belt, a hunting knife in a shoulder holster, a loaded 30-06 slung on my back, and a propeller beanie on my head, you wouldn't see any reason to alert someone?


/good to know

If I saw you walking out of a head shop with legally purchased items, should I be able to stop you for doing what is of course inevitable -- smoking crack and meth?

Obviously possession of a glass flower vase should be reasonable suspicion, since flower vases are sometimes easily converted to glass pipes or bongs.

Shouldn't you have to prove you smoke tobacco if I see you with papers? Shouldn't those papers be enough cause to stop you and demand to run warrant checks and criminal background checks on you?


Len baby, I say this with love. You're losing it. Go have a beer and sit on your porch for awhile
2014-08-04 03:44:51 PM
1 votes:
1. kidd was a trolling asshole
2. People freaked out because someone was carrying a weapon.
3. Police were called.
4. Police engage in a voluntary conversation with the small peckered tot wielding the shotgun.
5.Tot tells police to STFU, because he's not breaking the law, and he's right.
6. Police tell him he is required to present ID
7. Tot tells them to STFU...he has broken no laws, and this isn't nazi germany where he has to produce papers for no legal reason.
8. cops lie, telling him he has to
9. Cops get pissed due to his lack of respect and not buying their bullshiat, and write him a obstruction charge that wont hold up. due to no law being broken.
10. kid posts vid on youtube. and masturbates wildly, one hand on his sub standard virgin pecker, the other lovingly stroking his shotgun while he imagines its his boyfriends cock.
11. Gets posted to fark, where everyone makes fun of his little chubby cheeks and obvious penis envy issues.
12. profit?
2014-08-04 03:15:02 PM
1 votes:

R.A.Danny: You're wishing a violent end on someone. You're sick.


Oh my god sweetheart, should I grab the fainting-couch so you can sashay over to it in time?

I'm not strutting around town carrying the tool used to bring that violent end to a person.  Save your faux outrage for the person who deserves it, or at the very least, for someone who cares.
2014-08-04 02:57:53 PM
1 votes:

Halli:

Somehow these guys always look like that. Just needs a fedora to be extra douchy.

semiotix: .

Let's all tip our fedoras in respect to a game well played.


I don't wear either, but at least get the damn name of the hat right...

static.fjcdn.com

... for Dr. Jones' sake, if nothing else.

www.thegreenhead.com
2014-08-04 01:50:07 PM
1 votes:

Shepherd: I believe that asshats like this are legally allowed to carry their weapons.

However, if he ever points it at anyone, even as a joke, I believe that I am legally allowed to treat that as a threat with a deadly weapon.  That means running, calling police, taking legal action, or even violence if I'm drunk enough to punch a guy with a shotgun.

As long as these weapons are holstered or otherwise properly carried, it's fine.  But I'm seeing video of these people swinging their assault weapons around the room past bystanders, and that's not okay.


If you are close enough to punch him, you can probably disarm him. Just punch (or palm strike) him in the nose with one hand and grab the shotgun with the other. That kid doesn't look like he would put up much of a fight.
2014-08-04 01:33:13 PM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
2014-08-04 01:32:21 PM
1 votes:
i61.tinypic.com
2014-08-04 01:31:20 PM
1 votes:
Why is it always greasy skinned white fat fark with non existent muzzle control that parade around with weapons in public for the sole purpose of asshattery and starting shiat in the name of exercising their right s?I may have answered my own question.
2014-08-04 01:03:08 PM
1 votes:

Thunderpipes: Baz744: jshine: fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.

His fantasy was to stir people up and cause a confrontation where he was technically in the right, and it played out *exactly* as he intended.

No, it didn't. Law enforcement couldn't determine his age. They had probable cause to suspect he was a minor criminally in possession of a firearm. He did not have a legal right to refuse to show his ID.

He is not technically in the right.

He is until proven guilty. There is a very strong burden to prove by the state here. State has to show very clear evidence that the cop thought he was breaking the law, period. "he looked young" doesn't fly unless he truly looked like a child.


he does, farkhead.
2014-08-04 12:46:16 PM
1 votes:
Forever a Lohner
2014-08-04 12:34:00 PM
1 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com
That boy is one successful attention whore.
2014-08-04 12:14:15 PM
1 votes:

tarkus1980: He has the right to do this, yes, but if your primary motivation for doing something is "I have a right to do this," you're probably an asshole.


Fartbongo, is that you bro?
2014-08-04 12:07:42 PM
1 votes:

Jackpot777: In a completely unrelated note, most gun deaths are suicides.


Reminds me of this:

Zombie Survival Strategies

Zombie | Strategy
Slow + Dumb | Walk past them / baseball bat
Slow + Smart | Stay mobile / baseball bat
Fast + Dumb | Hole up in a secure location with food and a sniper rifle
Fast + Smart | Sort shotguns by barrel flavor
2014-08-04 11:54:07 AM
1 votes:

Nutsac_Jim: cryinoutloud: How come these open carry nuts don't carry around their guns in a sleeve or case? It would make the same point, if their point is that they should be allowed to carry guns openly. And it would protect the guns too, from all those accidental things that sometimes happen to valuable possessions.

How many crimes are committed annually by people while open carrying?


I'm going to go ahead and guess... all of them?  The ones involving guns?
2014-08-04 11:52:47 AM
1 votes:
Who he is trying to impress:

www.summitdaily.com
2014-08-04 11:44:47 AM
1 votes:

BlindRaise: Hilter loved gun control.


More than anything Hitler loved white guys blindly listening to fear mongers broadcasting nationalistic messages across the country.
2014-08-04 11:43:26 AM
1 votes:
For you Christian gun enthusiasts struggling with the concept of "should," here's a little something from the book you claim to revere.

"I have the right to do anything," you say--but not everything is beneficial. "I have the right to do anything"--but not everything is constructive. 1 Corinthians 10:23 (NIV)
2014-08-04 11:37:31 AM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: I would have said, "first of all, I'm under no obligation to explain myself to you. I have committed no crime, and exercising my state and constitutional rights is not a crime the last i heard. Do you often harass citizens who are just walking down the street doing nothing and ask them for their papers? The public's ignorance of the laws and unfounded panic does not vitiate my rights. Why do YOU carry a gun?" Ah..for the defense of yourself and others...hmmm...


i58.tinypic.com
/suuuuuuuuuurrrrrre you would
2014-08-04 11:35:25 AM
1 votes:

Jackpot777: Five bucks says he posts on a Red Pill forum. Because, let's face it, he's not carrying the gun because he wants to impress women. He knows THAT ship has sailed.


Not really. Four years of a better diet, an exercise regimen, and training in a career with earning potential would do wonders for his ability to impress a woman. He might even gain enough confidence and self esteem that he doesn't have to attention whore. The problem is that diet, exercise, and career take hard work and commitment which are probably like Kryptonite to this kid.
2014-08-04 11:00:10 AM
1 votes:
img.fark.net
www.wearysloth.com

Shame about Hitler.. Those moustaches are just the thing to divert attention from the acreage of jowel.
2014-08-04 10:59:05 AM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: Theaetetus: Well, yes... People are allowed to walk to the bank, even with friends.

What exactly are you arguing for here? Everyone who even thinks about going to a bank should immediately be stopped by the police?

Are you okay? Are you not getting enough oxygen or do you have any numbness in your limbs or face? If you think you might be having a stroke, call 911 immediately to prevent additional brain death.


31.media.tumblr.com
2014-08-04 10:43:55 AM
1 votes:

Theaetetus: Both of these complaints apply to pistols too - people don't know your intent with a handgun strapped to your hip, and "something could go wrong" - so why is your post only limited to "long firearms"?


Because people who want to draw attention to themselves and cause a ruckus tend to carry them because they are more obvious and obtrusive and completely out of place at the mall or a restaurant?  They've sort of become the calling card of the extreme "open carry" community who, not content with having the right to bear arms, need to scream at all times LOOK AT ME! I HAVE A LARGE GUN! THE LARGEST GUN I COULD FIND! AND I CAN CARRY IT HERE! AND HERE! AND STAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU WITH MY HAND ON THE TRIGGER OF THIS LOADED LARGE GUN BECAUSE I HAVE RIGHTS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO AND DON'T DARE SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE... LIBERALS... JESUS... GOD... RIGHTS... SECONDFOURTHFIFHTSEVENHUNDREDTH AMENEDMENT!!!!

A gun in a hip holster, while the person goes about their business, isn't perceived the same way as a large, long rifle is, should someone walk into a store with one in their hand or slung over their shoulder.  Odds are, a guy walking down the street with a hip or ankle holster will not garner the attention of the same guy with a rifle or a shotgun. The latter is larger, more visible, and far more out of place in non-hunting, non-range scenarios. But of course, you and especially these "activists" know that.
2014-08-04 10:39:08 AM
1 votes:
Hey there, Chubby, you're only 18, so right now, you still think your voice matters.  Mommy and daddy made you feel that way, that you were special, that you were important, that you had valid opinions on things.

But this is the real world.  You've gone from being 1/3 of a household to 1/500,000,000th of a population.  Your opinions and preferences have gone from High Priority to Completely Irrelevant.

Life will beat this truth into you.  You can fight it as long as you want, maybe clench those doughy fists into balls and cry about it, but you will lose.

You are nothing special.  You are not a crusader.  You are a dumb kid with a latent sense of parentally-granted importance and an idealist's rainbow goggles.

I can't wait to watch you fall.
2014-08-04 10:21:46 AM
1 votes:

stonelotus: fusillade762: "For the defense of myself and those around me."

Sure, because a shotgun is such a precise weapon and could never hit a bystander by accident. And that's in the astronomically remote chance this idiot's fantasy played out.

if Hamas is using innocent bystanders as human shield I should not have a right to protect myself?


Okaaaaaay.
i18.photobucket.com
2014-08-04 10:17:58 AM
1 votes:

trappedspirit: Why do these threads always contain mention of pants pissing and penises?


i180.photobucket.com

What do you mean "these threads"?

/Pretty much any Fark thread involves pants pissing and penises. Even the food threads
2014-08-04 10:15:39 AM
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Required in school?


Yes.  You learn about the way the other amendments function, so why not the 2nd?  More specifically, I'm tired of idiots shooting themselves or other people because they find a gun and don't know how to do something simple like "check if it's loaded". 

Barring a massive sea change in public opinion (ie, getting rid of the 2nd) guns are here to stay.  Guns are a part of US society.  Guns can kill you or others if they're mishandled.  Since gun safety clearly isn't being taught at home, it's a public service and in the best interests of EVERYONE to ensure that US society is instructed on gun safety.  Best way to do that is through the schools.

Let me reiterate.  This is not about firearm proficiency.  This is not teaching you how to accurately and precisely hit a target, nor how to perform quick reloads, and so forth.  This is stuff like "this is a magazine, bullets go in it", "this is the muzzle, bullets come out of it so don't point the thing at other people", and "here's how to check if a revolver, a semi-auto, or a bolt-action weapon is loaded".  That level of stuff.

/I work with adult actors, teaching stage combat - which includes guns - on a theatrical stage or set
//I'm tired of 30-year olds putting the muzzle of a gun up to their eye to "see if it's loaded".
2014-08-04 10:05:16 AM
1 votes:

I alone am best: He  She looks over 18 to me


Famous last words...

Seriously, that kid still has baby fat. They card people buying beer until they look 30 but we're supposed to believe that the kid that shaves once a week is old enough to publicly carry firearms.

I don't have a problem with people owning guns. What I have a problem with is the shiat stupid culture that has grown up around them here in the US.
2014-08-04 09:58:39 AM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: Has nobody else noted the resemblance

[i.chzbgr.com image 401x271]


Yes. Grumble.
2014-08-04 09:48:52 AM
1 votes:
Someone should paint the signers of the Constitution all holding weapons as they sign the Constitution.  Some rifles, some pistols stuck in their waists.  Maybe
Alexander Hamilton holding two pistols gangsta style.  That way, in fitty years, the 2nd Amendment people can point to the painting and say "See?  This is what they intended!"
2014-08-04 09:41:27 AM
1 votes:
One more stupid point:  A shotgun is worth how much to a criminal?  Would such a criminal be inclined to relieve this teen of his weapon thus THUS putting another untraceable stolen weapon on the street.  Whether the teen is fatally ventilated during this transaction or merely damaged is consequential only to relatives, loved ones and the local heath care system.
2014-08-04 09:38:33 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: it's also legal to walk around dressed up as hitler.


iruntheinternet.com
2014-08-04 09:35:38 AM
1 votes:
Eh, at least the kid is walking around getting some exercise for a change.  I don't care about guns for the most part, but if I see someone carrying around a rifle/shotgun around town and it's not hunting season, I'd call the police as well.

I don't really expect great reasoning from a teenager, but it sure seems to me, that these "protester" types are just inviting legislation that ruins it for the average hunter, who gets back from a hunt and carries their rifle into a donut shop rather than leaving it unattended in their pickup truck.
2014-08-04 09:31:00 AM
1 votes:
See??? No one got shot.
I feel much more comfortable about guns now.
Thanks, kid!
2014-08-04 09:28:46 AM
1 votes:

Hawnkee: imfallen_angel: gotta love the dickless 'muricans with their guns.

Close enough. DRINK!!


I think we're up to four penis references and a Godwin - pretty impressive for a Monday morning.
2014-08-04 09:19:39 AM
1 votes:

dookdookdook: PunGent: You don't HAVE to clean your gun after you use it, and you don't HAVE to change your oil every few thousand miles...but your gun and your car will each last longer if you do those things...or pay someone else to do them.

The point is a car engine will run for months with no maintenance without any particular increased risk of failure, yet something that basically does nothing but smack a small piece of metal with another small piece of metal not only needs constant TLC to stay safe and functional, but will blow off body parts if not done with maximum care and attention.


Powder residue is sticky, filthy, corrosive, and the exhaust gasses are used to operate the mechanism in many semiautomatic firearms (which means the stuff in question is getting all up in the fiddly bits.). Hence the need for frequent cleaning vs. cars. (Gas burns relatively cleanly, and cars are designed in such a way that they're largely self cleaning anyway, although that adds to complexity and expense.) Older cars still get carbon buildup in their nether regions, and there are procedures for that.

Firearms also do not have pumps actively circulating oil through them, hence the need for manual lubrication.

The blowing up body parts thing occurs when you try to take apart a loaded weapon. Performing maintenance on a running car is also discouraged.

Personally, as a paranoid, i do things like disconnecting the battery before doing engine work, unplugging the garbage disposal before sticking my hand down there (and looking nervously at the wire while doing so) and measuring wood three times (!) before cutting it, with my hands as far away from the saw blade as possible, and making sure that I'm holding the saw such that I am not in the potential flight path of a blade or blade fragments. (Yes, there's a guard, but let's pretend it's not there.)

Living in fear is a terrible curse.
2014-08-04 09:16:33 AM
1 votes:

StopDaddy: And here I thought apes with guns was the most worrying thing I've seen lately. That kid will never have consensual sex.


Technically, prostitution is consensual.  I think.


Then again, any hooker worth a used condom behind a shady furniture store on RT 13 south of Wilmington, DE wouldn't take fatty's cash....
2014-08-04 09:10:44 AM
1 votes:

Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.


A Constitution attorney?
2014-08-04 09:10:18 AM
1 votes:

Evil Twin Skippy: LazyMedia: MagSeven: August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?

No. You should be feeding your unicorn some New York City salsa!

Many Southern liberals own guns or have friends who do. We're just not dicks about it.

Dicks about guns, or dicks about being liberal?


Both.
2014-08-04 09:06:58 AM
1 votes:

BlindRaise: Hilter loved gun control.


www.noz.de

He was also a big fan of cars.
2014-08-04 09:05:15 AM
1 votes:

Monkeyhouse Zendo: serpent_sky: My point is the kid is an idiot, could easily get shot by someone else, and should not be doing what he's doing because clearly, he is frightening and intimidating people (hence, multiple calls to get the police out there when he's wandering with his gun), as opposed to merely expressing his right to bear arms and being harassed for doing so. I'm fairly certain we agree on all of this?

I noticed that one of the local restaraunts had posted a "no firearms" notice on their door as well as one of the local movie theaters which is, I think, a great response. If these idiots want to walk into a business I'm patronizing like a high plains drifter then I'll take my business elsewhere.


Some drifters had very impeccable reputations in the old west, and that just doesn't seem to apply to open-carry protesters.

I prefer to call them "Red Dawn LARPers."
2014-08-04 09:01:54 AM
1 votes:
What's his Fark handle?
2014-08-04 09:00:25 AM
1 votes:
Hilter loved gun control.
2014-08-04 08:58:24 AM
1 votes:
The 4th amendment states fairly clearly that it related to militia

So treat people like they should be training for militia with regards to gun ownership

Inspect their weapons. Make sure they are trained in their proper use
2014-08-04 08:49:54 AM
1 votes:
Did all the trolls wake up at the same time or something? It's unique to see a cluster of poorly spelled, ill-informed opinions suddenly pop up in a green thread that had already hit the main page.

I should have figured this was too civil and sane for a gun thread.
2014-08-04 08:37:28 AM
1 votes:
Punchable face?
www.rawstory.com

Yep.

Regarding stop and identify in CO

And I'm not surprised this kid's being a douche. It's something only some teenage males grow out of. The idea that one needs to carry guns around people to help them feel more comfortable around them is asinine. Take your ass to a place where guns are actually necessary: Somalia, South Sudan, Nigeria. Otherwise, shut up and enjoy your clean streets, running water and 30-day return on purchases.
2014-08-04 08:30:19 AM
1 votes:
This asshat could not be happier.  In his little mind he leveled up from Internet Tough Guy to Cable News Tough Guy.
2014-08-04 08:27:04 AM
1 votes:
Lumpy's back.
www.gannett-cdn.com
2014-08-04 08:21:02 AM
1 votes:

jso2897: Calm down. No one really wants to see anything bad happen to this dumb kid


Speak for yourself.  It would've been farking hilarious if he'd blown his own face off during a news interview about his being a massive cockbagproud second amendment advocacy.
2014-08-04 08:18:17 AM
1 votes:

austin_millbarge: the bystanding family of 4 just out for an ice cream stroll will end up dead


Not if they each had their own gun!
2014-08-04 08:04:36 AM
1 votes:

sycraft: Lots of jackass awards to go around here. Kid is a grade A jackass for walking around with a big gun strapped to his back. Yes you CAN do it, but there is no reason to, and plenty of reasons not to. He was looking to start trouble, and he got trouble. I have zero sympathy for him.

However the people calling 911 are also jackasses. Seriously people need to stop wetting their pants every time someone without a uniform has a gun.


Exactly. That's why all teachers should be trained and armed at all times. Then we won't have to worry about the crazies.
2014-08-04 07:47:21 AM
1 votes:

PunGent: You don't HAVE to clean your gun after you use it, and you don't HAVE to change your oil every few thousand miles...but your gun and your car will each last longer if you do those things...or pay someone else to do them.


The point is a car engine will run for months with no maintenance without any particular increased risk of failure, yet something that basically does nothing but smack a small piece of metal with another small piece of metal not only needs constant TLC to stay safe and functional, but will blow off body parts if not done with maximum care and attention.
2014-08-04 07:34:51 AM
1 votes:
Too bad self-righteousness isn't a felony, that would get a lot of loons off the street.
pla
2014-08-04 07:32:42 AM
1 votes:
serpent_sky : People like this are going to ensure that open carry laws are changed or severely curtailed, if they keep it up.

Any "right" you can't actually act on - doesn't exist in the first place. We need more... Thousands more, Millions more, to start open carrying; not for protection but simply to make it normal again. You know what has changed between 1914 and 2014? in 1914, virtually everyone had seen and used a gun from an early age for both hunting and varmint-killing. In 2014, most people have only seen guns in movies, which adhere to Chekhov's rule: If you see a gun in the first act, it will get fired by the fourth act. Guns have gone from a tool to a prop for many (particularly urban, which I don't mean as a euphemism for "black") people; meanwhile, the other 50% of the country that lives outside the cities still uses them for hunting and varmint killing.


MagSeven : show me any shotgun as accurate as a rifle

You can effectively hunt deer with a slug out to around 50 yards. No, not as accurate as a rifle, but then, you wouldn't use a rifle for self defense, either! And, I'll let you in on a little secret - That legendary "spread" of pellets doesn't become the size of an SUV within just a few feet - More like 12-18in at 25 yards.  For comparison, you'd consider it a great day to pull off a 12in cluster at 25 yards from a carry-style (short barreled) pistol.
2014-08-04 07:32:23 AM
1 votes:

CRtwenty: These open carry guys are doing more to support new gun restrictions than any politician ever could.

And they don't even realize it.


I'm going to don my tinfoil hat and cleave to the idea that these so-called "open carry nuts" taking long guns into public venues to exercise their 2nd amendment rights are really undercover operatives for gun-grabbing libs running false-flag operations to promote public support for the restriction of gun rights.

I mean, they can't *really* be what they say they are.  They can't *really* think that they are helping.
2014-08-04 07:32:18 AM
1 votes:

LazyMedia: MagSeven: August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?

No. You should be feeding your unicorn some New York City salsa!

Many Southern liberals own guns or have friends who do. We're just not dicks about it.


Dicks about guns, or dicks about being liberal?
2014-08-04 07:30:16 AM
1 votes:
If you feel threatened by this semi-retarded little fatso and his shotgun, are you allowed to shoot him?
If no, why not?

/feeling a bit cranky today
2014-08-04 07:23:50 AM
1 votes:
By the way, used to ride my bike through town to go hunting when I was in 5th grade, with a shotgun or a .22 across the handlebars. Not a single eyebrow was raised. The horrors.....
2014-08-04 07:21:40 AM
1 votes:
I don't need you to defend me, fat boy.
2014-08-04 07:13:29 AM
1 votes:
I look forward to this kid's blog and will keep a close eye for links through American Thinker and Breitbart.
2014-08-04 07:11:36 AM
1 votes:
He has the right to do this, yes, but if your primary motivation for doing something is "I have a right to do this," you're probably an asshole.
2014-08-04 07:04:26 AM
1 votes:

August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?


Yeah, we can be here... it's just impossible for us to post anything and expect any traction from it. Being the most sensible of the gun-owning segment of the USA, our rational thought doesn't have any opportunity to take hold before the weirdos chime in. Just have a look at Weeners by Trailltrader and the Boobies made by Dramboxf a dozen or so after it.

Now, I'm pretty sure based on his profile that Trailltrader is a troll. I mean, he's weighing in on the discussion before there is any discussion taking place, and he doesn't even have the details correct. On the other hand, that's pretty much exactly how the NRA works: they don't understand the 2nd Amendment, and they love to argue and debate things that don't need to be argued and debated.

Dramboxf, on the other hand, apparently just invents narratives to prove unimportant points. Really... his dad hired a "first amendment attorney" to discuss why the student newspaper wouldn't publish his opinion poll about sex. *big farking roll-eyes.*  Riiiiight. His girlfriend in Canada was super-supportive of it too. ANyhow, that type of story is great because on the 0.00001% chance that it is actually true, it shows how he was raised to believe that normal expectations of people living in society were to be interpreted as affronts to god-given rights.
2014-08-04 07:03:35 AM
1 votes:

Yaw String: Insert token masturbation reference here.


I'm just waiting for the firearm-to-penis size correlation drinking game to begin.
2014-08-04 07:01:53 AM
1 votes:

Bonzo_1116: Could they have got the kid on "brandishing"? Not sure if that delightfully vague charge is an option in Colorado....


The easiest way to do it would be a disorderly conduct charge. The gun is merely tangential to the fact that the defendant was trying to cause a public disturbance and incite civil unrest. While his carrying a gun was not in and of itself unlawful, his behavior in attempting cause a disturbance was. Same deal as you have a right to free speech, but if cops find you screaming in an apartment complex late at night, they're gonna haul your ass to jail.
2014-08-04 06:58:10 AM
1 votes:
Could they have got the kid on "brandishing"? Not sure if that delightfully vague charge is an option in Colorado....
2014-08-04 06:55:04 AM
1 votes:

LazyMedia: balisane: That kid would be a lot better served by a couple if hours in the gym every week than by trotting a shiatgun around. Not that he's overweight- he just has that "I never move an inch further than necessary to survive" look, aka cardiac face.

The fark he isn't overweight. That kid's at least 30 pounds overweight; borderline obese. Man, Americans really have no idea what normal is supposed to look like any more.


I basically don't make assumptions about someone's body composition until they've swanned around me in something form-fitting. Nevertheless, I stand by my assessment of his "gonna have congestive heart failure in 20 years" pre-edema face.
2014-08-04 06:55:02 AM
1 votes:

ghare: August11: As a gun-owning liberal, should I even be in this thread?

SSSHHut uuup! You're not supposed to let the nutjobs know liberals have guns too. Weren't you at the meeting last week?


My bad.
2014-08-04 06:52:22 AM
1 votes:

LazyMedia: Georgia law already does that


Indeed.  However, other places do not.

serpent_sky: Damn... it's just an all around hairy issue. Like I said, I see these people, more than anything, ultimately leading to the repeal or restriction of open carry laws because they're just too much trouble to deal with under the current laws.


Yup, it's largely a matter of intent.  "Intent to walk around with a firearm in a safe, controlled, and nonthreatening** manner" should be legal, while "intent to attention whore with a gun" should not.   However, it's next to impossible to actually enforce or write legislation based on intent.  One can DO it...but it tends to simply become a de facto prohibition on even the legal facet of the activity.

A similar example is the ban of torrent programs on college campuses (utorrent, etc).  There's absolutely free, legal, torrent downloads out there (Microsoft released Mechwarrior 4:Mercs and all the expansions as a torrent a few years ago, for example), but because there's no way to tell the intent behind having that program installed on your computer, the whole thing ends up getting banned.


**I'm aware there are some people who consider being able to see a gun whatsoever as "threatening".  I remember having somebody in my apartment who saw a completely disassembled pistol on a table in an unocccupied side room and wanted to know if it was "going to suddenly go off".  Those people are stupid, and should be ignored.
2014-08-04 06:40:06 AM
1 votes:

FightDirector: serpent_sky: I also can't see how open carry laws (regarding walking down city streets just holding a shotgun or what-have-you) don't somewhat contradict laws against inciting a panic or the used to cover anything we don't like "makingterroristic threats". It could just be the raised in NY, living in CT me, but I'd be pretty panicked if I headed out to the stores later and a guy was walking down Post Road with a shotgun, and I imagine most people would.

On a tangental note, does a a right that people are too afraid to exercise actually mean anything?

If you have the right to open carry, but are put off of doing it because you're afraid of public outcry and/or the potential criminal penalties you mention, does that right really mean anything in a practical sense?

Among other things, open-carry laws help protect folks who are lawfully carrying concealed, but have their shirt ride up accidentally (bend over or reach for something high).  In many states, that accident - of which you may not be aware - can instantly move you from "concealed carry" to "open carry" status.  I would very, VERY much like to have a law banning open carry as per "intent to attention whore", while leaving people like hunters (who do, in fact "open carry" their weapons), but I'm pretty sure that it's an impossible law to write and an even more impossible law to enforce.

/this is why we cannot have nice things


Georgia law already does that. You can't wander around with a shotgun, unless you're hunting (and you can get a ticket for doing it without a hunting license). Thank goodness, because suburban Atlanta is Ground Zero for some of your more virulent wingnuts; they'd be stomping around Wal-Mart and Chipotle with ARs on their backs in a heartbeat if they could.
2014-08-04 06:37:54 AM
1 votes:
That kid would be a lot better served by a couple if hours in the gym every week than by trotting a shiatgun around. Not that he's overweight- he just has that "I never move an inch further than necessary to survive" look, aka cardiac face.
2014-08-04 06:35:37 AM
1 votes:
zamboni:

You must show me your papers before you are allowed to use your Constitutional rights... just like voting, speaking, writing, congregating etc.

Scary


So, if the MS13 street gang came to your street and were open carrying, you are on record that the police have no right to ask them anything unless.  Good to know.

cdn.gunaxin.com
2014-08-04 06:24:11 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: ok, this reporter needs to learn how to pronounce the word "records" in this context.


With a rack like that, she could pronounce it any way she wants.
2014-08-04 06:24:10 AM
1 votes:
It's legal (and warm enough to be comfortable) for me to walk around naked where I live. I don't be I assume that the rest of the people around me don't want to see me naked. Walking around with a gun makes you an asshole, regardless of whether or not you have a legal right to.
2014-08-04 06:14:54 AM
1 votes:

serial_crusher: [dl.dropboxusercontent.com image 625x431]
Um, I hope it wasn't loaded during the filming of this.

/ Gun is always loaded...


"If enough people were to lawfully open carry in those areas and do it in a safe and lawful manner then these people would end up feeling comfortable around it," he explained.

Why is it that the people who are the loudest proponents of how safe open carry is, are actually the people who do so in the least safe manner?
Seriously, I've never seen an article on open carry protesters where they weren't hanging a rifle off their shoulder while flagging a few aisle at Target, or walking around with their fingers on the trigger, or this case, holding the weapon in such a way that dropping it could blow the front of his face off.

www.liveforfilms.com
2014-08-04 04:35:24 AM
1 votes:

Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.


And if you had a lick of sense you would know most liberals are against stop and frisk, police checkpoints, voter ID laws, illegal searches and seizures, etc... . Conservatives have the market cornered on the desire for a police state.

It seems to me you have a lot more concern for his right to carry a shotgun than the cops demanding an ID. I wonder how you feel about stopping brown people and asking for their papers. Well, not really.
2014-08-04 01:17:15 AM
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Trailltrader: What people are missing here is- this teenager is 1: obeying he law  2: has committed no crime  3: and if you persecute him you are in violation of his 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, 4th Amendment, and 5th Amendment.

If you liberals had a lick of sense you'd drop those charges before a Constitution Attorney shows up on his doorstep, files a HUGE (relatively speaking) lawsuit against the city.  The police will have to show just cause to believe he was committing a crime- and the video doesn't show that.

He wasn't cited for carrying the gun, he was cited for refusing to provide identification, which was a valid request as by his appearance it was not clear whether or not he was old enough to be legally carrying the weapon.

He has no grounds to stand on to sue.


You must show me your papers before you are allowed to use your Constitutional rights... just like voting, speaking, writing, congregating etc.

Scary
2014-08-04 12:38:45 AM
1 votes:
Insert token masturbation reference here.
2014-08-03 11:51:31 PM
1 votes:
When I was growing up, there were only three reason to leave the house without a gun, and two of those were church and school.
2014-08-03 10:37:24 PM
1 votes:
Nuts Ruining America.
 
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