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(KATU)   Woman is shocked, SHOCKED that a limo company that she booked a deal with using a coupon would cancel her ride and take a full paying customer instead   (katu.com) divider line 59
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2014-08-03 05:06:55 PM  
"My gut is telling me no, it's not true," said Town, who received a refund from LivingSocial.com but says G-Limos still owes her $80. "My gut is telling me they booked with someone else paying full payment, instead of the LivingSocial payment."

So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

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2014-08-03 05:18:06 PM  

Donnchadha: "My gut is telling me no, it's not true," said Town, who received a refund from LivingSocial.com but says G-Limos still owes her $80. "My gut is telling me they booked with someone else paying full payment, instead of the LivingSocial payment."

So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

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The limo company did something similar to another customer back in December.
 
2014-08-03 05:48:47 PM  
Small limo services can't absorb a breakdown, so it might be true.  G-Limos seem to have four unique cars, so the one she wants may be out of action.

And BTW, the whole "pick ups forbidden within city limits" is protectionist BS.  If I want to call up a service in Oshkosh, WI to come to my house in Oregon and take me somewhere, I should be able to.  How can they know the local geographical/legal minutiae for every area to which they are summoned?
 
2014-08-03 05:57:16 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Donnchadha: "My gut is telling me no, it's not true," said Town, who received a refund from LivingSocial.com but says G-Limos still owes her $80. "My gut is telling me they booked with someone else paying full payment, instead of the LivingSocial payment."

So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

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The limo company did something similar to another customer back in December.


That's still not evidence that it happened here as well. I mean, it might have happened again, but it's not evidence.
 
2014-08-03 05:58:30 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Small limo services can't absorb a breakdown, so it might be true.  G-Limos seem to have four unique cars, so the one she wants may be out of action.

And BTW, the whole "pick ups forbidden within city limits" is protectionist BS.  If I want to call up a service in Oshkosh, WI to come to my house in Oregon and take me somewhere, I should be able to.  How can they know the local geographical/legal minutiae for every area to which they are summoned?


If only there were some way you could look up a map of the city limits...
 
2014-08-03 06:29:04 PM  

fusillade762: If only there were some way you could look up a map of the city limits...


It's just so preposterous, though.  If I make arrangements to be picked up at the train station, (for example), why should the "City" even be involved?

I understand that the City doesn't want out-of-town cabs trolling for fares, but this rendezvous could be set up in advance, outside of the City's purview.
 
2014-08-03 06:51:39 PM  
I got back today from an airport ride that I got via Groupon.  Ride to the airport was great.  Driver texed me about half an hour before pickup saying he was on his way, texted again when he arrived and said to come out when I was ready, nice shiny suburban, got there in plenty of time.

Ride back was horrible.  Plane landed on time, then wound up waiting an hour for the car while the driver had no idea what spot we were talking about where we were waiting.  Beat-to-shiat Crown Vic with a golf club in the trunk.  Threw our bags on top of it.

/still slightly less expensive than parking at Logan
 
2014-08-03 07:09:38 PM  
LoL, submitter lives in a shiathole corrupt country where this is expected.
 
2014-08-03 07:10:31 PM  
Unsure how this is the woman's fault.
 
2014-08-03 07:14:39 PM  

Donnchadha: "My gut is telling me no, it's not true," said Town, who received a refund from LivingSocial.com but says G-Limos still owes her $80. "My gut is telling me they booked with someone else paying full payment, instead of the LivingSocial payment."

So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

[i1297.photobucket.com image 245x285]


To be fair, it's not like they are suing. They have the right to shake their heads and speculate and be annoyed.
 
2014-08-03 07:17:25 PM  
Limos and wine tasting.

Sure don't git much classier than that, Cletus.
 
2014-08-03 07:22:23 PM  

Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?


A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.
 
2014-08-03 07:34:43 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.


Yeah, I can definitely tell you have no idea how airline operations work.
 
2014-08-03 07:35:07 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: Limos and wine tasting.

Sure don't git much classier than that, Cletus.


I'm not sure why you're insinuating that she's a redneck for that. It was probably a girls' night out attending a restaurant for the wine tasting. The city I live in has restaurant wine/food dinners and microbrewery beer/food dinners every few months at typically $50-$75 per person and they sell out weeks in advance. If it was a dozen women, with a coupon, it was probably around the same price as them all getting cabs to their destination to avoid drinking and driving afterwards.
 
2014-08-03 07:39:12 PM  
Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.
 
2014-08-03 07:39:48 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.


you certainly live up to your name.
I mean, I can't remember a time where a town 50 miles away from me hasn't had EXACTLY the same weather that I'm having.
 
2014-08-03 07:40:53 PM  

joness0154: Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.

Yeah, I can definitely tell you have no idea how airline operations work.


Wait, you mean the pilots can't just put more money into the meter at the gate and wait a few hours for the plane to fill up with more fares?
 
2014-08-03 07:54:24 PM  

MaritimeGirl: I'm not sure why you're insinuating that she's a redneck for that


I have my reasons, damn it.
 
2014-08-03 07:55:38 PM  
Like I'm going to take the word of some lush who was only using the limo to drive around and drink wine.
 
2014-08-03 07:56:12 PM  
I've noticed that a lot of women are shocked and outraged at a lot of things nowadays. The Snowflake Generation is growing up, it seems.
 
2014-08-03 07:56:23 PM  
As someone who's worked as a dispatcher for limousine services in L.A., I'm getting a kick ...

Seriously, in L.A. the biggest limo problems come on the big award show days. You want to book a limo or town car for a trip to the airport on the day of the Oscars, Emmy's or Grammy's? Forget it. Booking for cars on those days is usually a 10-hour minimum, and EVERYTHING in town is booked.

If you're a frequent client who gives the limo company business throughout the year, then you might get a ride to the airport, maybe, provided you only need a town car and not an SUV or stretch limo. If you're just Joe Schmoe calling in off the street, do yourself a favor and call a cab company. You ain't getting a limo.
 
2014-08-03 08:04:54 PM  

baconbeard: I've noticed that a lot of women are shocked and outraged at a lot of things nowadays. The Snowflake Generation is growing up, it seems.


Boy it seems like every news story about a shocked person contains a shocked person. That's, like, 100% obviously. I am shocked about this statistic.
 
2014-08-03 08:45:12 PM  
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2014-08-03 09:00:40 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.


Totally. Obviously nobody on my completely booked flight was paying enough so they cancelled it due to "lavatory issues". It also happened to be the last flight of the night and the crew clearly wanted to party in the big city instead of the small town a half-hour flight away. Yep, that must be the reason.
 
2014-08-03 09:02:46 PM  

Feel_the_velvet: Limos and wine tasting.

Sure don't git much classier than that, Cletus.


I agree.  I only take my helicopter to wine tastings.  Limos are for disgusting poor white trash.
 
2014-08-03 09:20:51 PM  

Tobin_Lam: Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.

Totally. Obviously nobody on my completely booked flight was paying enough so they cancelled it due to "lavatory issues". It also happened to be the last flight of the night and the crew clearly wanted to party in the big city instead of the small town a half-hour flight away. Yep, that must be the reason.


I'm unsure if the 3 people mocking this individual are just trolling or really that naive and stupid.  It is well known that the standard operating procedure for certain budget airlines (cough, Spirit, cough) to cancel underbooked flights at the last second but chalk it up to "maintenance".
 
2014-08-03 09:32:22 PM  
Using a coupon for a limo ride? Classy.

"I'll have the steak, and my lady friend here will have something of equal or lesser value."
 
2014-08-03 09:40:09 PM  
They use limo to transport Taliban.
 
2014-08-03 09:40:15 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.

you certainly live up to your name.
I mean, I can't remember a time where a town 50 miles away from me hasn't had EXACTLY the same weather that I'm having.


You realize it's fairly easy to check both actual and forecasted weather?  It was a clear and calm day for both cities.  Hell, it was a clear and calm day for pretty much the entire midwest.
 
2014-08-03 09:43:25 PM  
"Ma'am, you've got a coupon.  Okay?  This is a paying customer.  Now, now, don't start that.  Okay, okay, fine.  We can strap you to the luggage rack."
 
2014-08-03 09:59:01 PM  
A classy agency would have, after asking if it was okay, called around and found them another limo company and eaten the cost.  (A classy and smart company might actually make arrangements with some of their rivals to do this on  a quid pro quo sort of basis.  It would help small limo companies compete with larger ones.)

It seems that there should be some transparency to prevent this sort of thing from happening (if it did happen).  The two things that come to mind is requiring companies to publish their cancellation rates, and a little oversight so that they can't cancel for mechanical problems (or no driver or whatever) and then send the limo out on the same night.

For those complaining about the limitations on cabs from other municipalities not being allowed in, while cities can sometimes be worried about collecting the most fees, sometimes, particularly in industries with less than great track records for keeping everything above board, it's got to do with, you know, making sure that those companies do things above board.
 
2014-08-03 10:21:38 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Using a coupon for a limo ride? Classy.

"I'll have the steak, and my lady friend here will have something of equal or lesser value."


I don't get people like you.  What's wrong with coupons?  Why would you not spend less money for something you're already going to purchase if you are able to?
 
2014-08-03 10:28:24 PM  

rhiannon: Unsure how this is the woman's fault.


This is Fark.
 
Ral
2014-08-03 10:30:27 PM  

poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.


I work in car rental, and I don't encounter scumbags among my coworkers.  What particular sort of scummy behavior do you experience with car rental services?
 
2014-08-03 10:51:47 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Small limo services can't absorb a breakdown, so it might be true.  G-Limos seem to have four unique cars, so the one she wants may be out of action.

And BTW, the whole "pick ups forbidden within city limits" is protectionist BS.  If I want to call up a service in Oshkosh, WI to come to my house in Oregon and take me somewhere, I should be able to.  How can they know the local geographical/legal minutiae for every area to which they are summoned?


Google extortion. These days, government's primary job is extortion.
 
2014-08-03 11:14:59 PM  

poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.


Because normal, non-car people are morons who think that everything which happens in, under, and around cars is farking magic. It's easy to put one over on people who are more interested in "reality" than reality.

Or, if you prefer, morality costs money and the poor people who learned about cars by being poor don't necessarily have the highest moral standards.

Some combination of those things.
 
2014-08-03 11:32:40 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Using a coupon for a limo ride? Classy.

"I'll have the steak, and my lady friend here will have something of equal or lesser value."


Yeah no kidding.... some people are trolling you already for the comment, but I totally agree with you. I wouldn't be giving a limo driver a coupon... that just seems so ghetto and they don't have limos in the ghetto.  Not even the pimps use limos!
 
2014-08-03 11:34:13 PM  

Ral: poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.

I work in car rental, and I don't encounter scumbags among my coworkers.  What particular sort of scummy behavior do you experience with car rental services?


"Sorry, we're all out of cars".
 
2014-08-03 11:44:25 PM  

nickerj1: Tobin_Lam: Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.

Totally. Obviously nobody on my completely booked flight was paying enough so they cancelled it due to "lavatory issues". It also happened to be the last flight of the night and the crew clearly wanted to party in the big city instead of the small town a half-hour flight away. Yep, that must be the reason.

I'm unsure if the 3 people mocking this individual are just trolling or really that naive and stupid.  It is well known that the standard operating procedure for certain budget airlines (cough, Spirit, cough) to cancel underbooked flights at the last second but chalk it up to "maintenance".


Well known? Great googly moogly...
 
2014-08-03 11:55:10 PM  

nickerj1: Tobin_Lam: Sum Dum Gai: Donnchadha: So... you have absolutely no evidence other than "your gut"?

A lot of companies do well at skirting plausible deniability.

Like how half-full flights gets canceled for "mechanical", "crew", or "weather" reasons.  My favorite was when the airline tried to sell the "weather" reason to me recently.  They had another flight departing at almost exactly the same time and landing only 50 miles away, and mysteriously that full flight wasn't canceled, but the half full flight certainly was.  The weather, by the way, was perfect the whole way.

Totally. Obviously nobody on my completely booked flight was paying enough so they cancelled it due to "lavatory issues". It also happened to be the last flight of the night and the crew clearly wanted to party in the big city instead of the small town a half-hour flight away. Yep, that must be the reason.

I'm unsure if the 3 people mocking this individual are just trolling or really that naive and stupid.  It is well known that the standard operating procedure for certain budget airlines (cough, Spirit, cough) to cancel underbooked flights at the last second but chalk it up to "maintenance".


you do know that the FAA has a problem with this, right? If it were SOP they would be shut down
 
2014-08-04 12:15:21 AM  

HoratioGates: A classy agency would have, after asking if it was okay, called around and found them another limo company and eaten the cost.  (A classy and smart company might actually make arrangements with some of their rivals to do this on  a quid pro quo sort of basis.  It would help small limo companies compete with larger ones.)

It seems that there should be some transparency to prevent this sort of thing from happening (if it did happen).  The two things that come to mind is requiring companies to publish their cancellation rates, and a little oversight so that they can't cancel for mechanical problems (or no driver or whatever) and then send the limo out on the same night.

For those complaining about the limitations on cabs from other municipalities not being allowed in, while cities can sometimes be worried about collecting the most fees, sometimes, particularly in industries with less than great track records for keeping everything above board, it's got to do with, you know, making sure that those companies do things above board.


That, and some cities - Portland included - have strict licensing, insuring, maintenance and territory regulations. It costs cab and limo owners more to stay in compliance; it would be stupid to let unlicensed drivers in underinsured, undermaintained vehicles come in and undercut local drivers. Portland livery regulators invest all their stupidity in perpetuating the century-old feud between cabs (unscheduled pick-up) and limos (scheduled pick-up), and trying to stop cab or limo drivers from tipping hotel and condo doormen. Doorpersons. Concierges.
 
2014-08-04 12:29:30 AM  

poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.


Pro tip; if you get in a cab in the us and the driver is an American, get out if the cab if you want to live.
 
2014-08-04 12:59:42 AM  

Mr. Ekshun: poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.

Because normal, non-car people are morons who think that everything which happens in, under, and around cars is farking magic. It's easy to put one over on people who are more interested in "reality" than reality.

Or, if you prefer, morality costs money and the poor people who learned about cars by being poor don't necessarily have the highest moral standards.

Some combination of those things.


If you want that level of frustration, but prefer to sit down, I would highly recommend IT as a career choice.
 
2014-08-04 02:40:26 AM  
lol, reading the comments, one of the comments was by Winking Mare.

I am not surprised the name was ok'ed, that station is ran by a bunch of city boys.
 
2014-08-04 02:41:32 AM  

The Angry Hand of God: Mr. Ekshun: poorjon: Why is it that anyone who has anything to do with automobiles professionally is a complete scumbag? Taxi services, mechanics, car rentals, car salesmen, towing companies, etc, all awful.

Because normal, non-car people are morons who think that everything which happens in, under, and around cars is farking magic. It's easy to put one over on people who are more interested in "reality" than reality.

Or, if you prefer, morality costs money and the poor people who learned about cars by being poor don't necessarily have the highest moral standards.

Some combination of those things.

If you want that level of frustration, but prefer to sit down, I would highly recommend IT as a career choice.


What do you think I did before I started restoring cars :D? Then I became a watchmaker, which is either better or worse depending on which direction your perspective blows. Eventually I hope to get Anthrax back together.
 
2014-08-04 03:17:34 AM  
enry: I got back today from an airport ride that I got via Groupon.  Ride to the airport was great.  Driver texed me about half an hour before pickup saying he was on his way, texted again when he arrived and said to come out when I was ready, nice shiny suburban, got there in plenty of time.
Ride back was horrible.  Plane landed on time, then wound up waiting an hour for the car while the driver had no idea what spot we were talking about where we were waiting.  Beat-to-shiat Crown Vic with a golf club in the trunk.  Threw our bags on top of it.
/still slightly less expensive than parking at Logan

Thank you for this interesting story with not just wonderful narrative value, but also deep general applicability.
 
2014-08-04 04:19:09 AM  
To be fair, limos ARE incredibly trashy. Bonus trashy if it's an SUV. Double bonus points if it's white. Limos are what poor people think of as classy and sophisticated. Dark cars all the way.
 
2014-08-04 04:57:56 AM  
I would take her and her girlfirends for a "ride" IF you know what I mean.

Seems like a pretty crappy thing to do though.
 
2014-08-04 05:18:52 AM  

sharphead: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Using a coupon for a limo ride? Classy.

"I'll have the steak, and my lady friend here will have something of equal or lesser value."

Yeah no kidding.... some people are trolling you already for the comment, but I totally agree with you. I wouldn't be giving a limo driver a coupon... that just seems so ghetto and they don't have limos in the ghetto.  Not even the pimps use limos!


Paying $500 to rent a car that includes free alcohol for their friends is exactly what ghetto people do, of course. Obviously, any reasonable person would pay at least twice that for the privilege. Or three times, I'm not sure where the arbitrary limit is today.
 
2014-08-04 06:14:50 AM  

HungLow: I would take her and her girlfirends for a "ride" IF you know what I mean.



Come again?
 
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