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(Israel National News)   Jewish visitors arrested at Auschwitz for singing "the song of hope" that Jews in the camps sung to defy the Nazis. Is it 1943 again?   (israelnationalnews.com) divider line 191
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2014-08-03 12:03:46 PM  
"It is totally unacceptable that the camp administration treats Jewish groups as if we are tourists to the site like any other group. They have to be considerate and compassionate to Jewish groups. We are not visiting there out of curiosity. It is a journey to the depths of our souls.


You had my sympathies til you demanded special treatment.
 
2014-08-03 12:49:29 PM  
I guess I could sing Lee Greenwood at Arlington Cemetery, but I'd be an asshole, primarily because Greenwood blows.
 
2014-08-03 01:09:22 PM  
Translation, please.
 
2014-08-03 01:09:48 PM  
www.booksatruestory.com
 
2014-08-03 01:39:21 PM  
I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.
 
2014-08-03 01:41:04 PM  

Fano: [www.booksatruestory.com image 592x320]


dammit!
 
2014-08-03 01:45:28 PM  
Fined == arrested?
 
2014-08-03 01:47:30 PM  
*scans headline*


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-03 01:47:45 PM  
They did Nazi that coming.
 
2014-08-03 01:51:58 PM  
The museum responded regarding the incident in the comments below the article:

The whole situation was a problem of far too loud and inappropriate behaviour at the Memorial of the group. That become a problem for guides and other visitors who were on the site at that moment. Other visitors were disrupted even in such a sensitve place as the building of the crematorium at Auschwitz I. The group blocked it and did not let in any other visitors. Only after they security intevened, they reacted.

When the group was asked to quiet down on the site of former Auschwitz II-Birkenau camp, as they were not only singing very loud, but also running around the site, there was no response. Numerous requests of the security were left with no reaction. The leader of the group refused to give his name and produce documents. That is why the police was called. He was asked for documents. He told the police he had any. And the documents were found on him. The police gave him a ticket for disrupting public order and refusal to cooperate with the police. No one was arrested.

All situation that had nothing to do with the songs that were sung and the origin of the group. There are many groups visiting the site and singing in the way that is respectful to other people who visit the Memorial. There are different ways of commemoration but none of them can disrupt other people visit. Such bad behaviour arrouses many critical comments from other visitors. Yet, we should emphasise that great majority of visitors, including numerous groups coming from Israel, know very well what are right and appropriate ways of behaviour at the Memorial Site.

Thole situation is recorded and has been analysed. The reaction of the Museum Security was correct in this particual situation.
 
2014-08-03 01:52:10 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.


Freemasons? Really?

/ I did not know that
// off to Wikipedia I go....
 
2014-08-03 01:52:19 PM  
Horrible old bad joke time!

My grandpa died at a concentration camp. He fell out of a guard tower.
 
2014-08-03 01:52:56 PM  

grumpfuff: "It is totally unacceptable that the camp administration treats Jewish groups as if we are tourists to the site like any other group. They have to be considerate and compassionate to Jewish groups. We are not visiting there out of curiosity. It is a journey to the depths of our souls.


You had my sympathies til you demanded special treatment.


I will go as far as to say if your MOTHER OR FATHER were in the camp or you were there YOURSELF, you might get a brief respite - though if that was the case, you would most likely bow your head in reverence fighting back (or streaming) tears in memory of those who died there.

Attention whore (even if you are the only one looking at your) is still an attention whore - no matter the reason.

(World War II is a lot more interesting in the "why" things happened than school textbooks ever let on)
 
2014-08-03 01:53:16 PM  

grumpfuff: "It is totally unacceptable that the camp administration treats Jewish groups as if we are tourists to the site like any other group. They have to be considerate and compassionate to Jewish groups. We are not visiting there out of curiosity. It is a journey to the depths of our souls.


You had my sympathies til you demanded special treatment.


Yeah, the audacity of Jewish visitors to Auschwitz demanding a bit leeway.
 
2014-08-03 01:53:18 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.


The holocaust was exclusively about the elimination of European Jews, you anti-Semite. Those other groups weren't exterminated, they were fed punch and pie and sent on their way.
 
2014-08-03 01:54:04 PM  
Considering how popular the notion of genocide seems to be in Israel right now, maybe it is 1943 again.
 
2014-08-03 01:54:53 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.


Don't forget about the Methodists.

/ I think my grandma might have been a nazi; she kept doing this strange wave thing every time somebody said Fürher

// I keed
 
2014-08-03 01:56:58 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.


Not as effective lobby groups.
 
2014-08-03 02:01:38 PM  

RoyBatty: grumpfuff: "It is totally unacceptable that the camp administration treats Jewish groups as if we are tourists to the site like any other group. They have to be considerate and compassionate to Jewish groups. We are not visiting there out of curiosity. It is a journey to the depths of our souls.


You had my sympathies til you demanded special treatment.

Yeah, the audacity of Jewish visitors to Auschwitz demanding a bit leeway.


Yea, I figured they would have learned by now.
 
2014-08-03 02:02:31 PM  

Elegy: InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.

The holocaust was exclusively about the elimination of European Jews, you anti-Semite. Those other groups weren't exterminated, they were fed punch and pie and sent on their way.


Methinks you are trolling big time or are very, VERY ignorant.

I'm all for arresting a$$holes...and this 'singer' was plainly being one.
 
2014-08-03 02:05:31 PM  
I was there a few years ago.  When we were in the oven rooms there was this woman from Italy (speaking italian and wearing a jacket with the flag on it) who was getting her picture taken in front of it.  She was posing like she was out on the town at the Jersey Shore.  Complete with duck face, shampoo commercial hair flinging and...just horribly distasteful.
 
2014-08-03 02:06:07 PM  
Out of curiosity I Googled the Rabbi leading the group and found something heartening.

Jews and Palestinians together condemning their homicidal neighbors.

"A Jewish anti-racism group has arranged to visit the mourning tent of the Abu Khdeir family in East Jerusalem later on Tuesday to offer condolences over the killing of Israeli Arab teenager Muhammed Abu Khdeir, allegedly by Jewish extremists..."

"...Also on Sunday two Palestinians from the Hebron area paid a visit to the grieving Fraenkel family. The Palestinians, from the Gush Etzion area, were accompanied by the head of the Gush Etzion religious council, Rabbi Rafi Ostroff, to the Fraenkels' Nof Ayalon residence, where the family was in the midst of the traditional seven-day mourning period.

"In a statement last week the Fraenkels condemned the murder of [Palestinian teen] Abu Khdeir, saying that 'there is no difference when it comes to blood. Murder is murder; there is no justification, forgiveness or atonement for any murder.'"


Link
 
2014-08-03 02:07:33 PM  

RoyBatty: grumpfuff: "It is totally unacceptable that the camp administration treats Jewish groups as if we are tourists to the site like any other group. They have to be considerate and compassionate to Jewish groups. We are not visiting there out of curiosity. It is a journey to the depths of our souls.


You had my sympathies til you demanded special treatment.

Yeah, the audacity of Jewish visitors to Auschwitz demanding a bit leeway.


Yes. They were douchebags.
 
2014-08-03 02:07:50 PM  
They should've just taken their selfies and been on their way.
 
2014-08-03 02:08:46 PM  

fastfxr: Methinks you are trolling big time or are very, VERY ignorant.


Am I witnessing Poe's law, or am I being meta-Poed?
 
2014-08-03 02:11:01 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.

Freemasons? Really?

/ I did not know that
// off to Wikipedia I go....


You forgot about those damn Gypsies.
 
2014-08-03 02:11:26 PM  

fastfxr: Methinks you are trolling big time or are very, VERY ignorant.


Tap your sarcasm meter a few times, it's on the fritz again. And your troll detector is giving off false positives, probably going to need to replace that one.
 
2014-08-03 02:13:59 PM  

Guilty_plea_bargain: Forbidden Doughnut: InterruptingQuirk: I always forget about those millions of ethnic Poles, Belarusians, and Roma along with the tens and hundreds of thousands each of Serbs, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses, African descent, Mentally Handicapped, Homosexuals, Bosnians, Albanians, Freemasons, and Slovenes persons that were also killed in the camps with the same purpose of eradication as the Jews experienced, probably because we don't hear about them asking for special treatment at these sites.

Freemasons? Really?

/ I did not know that
// off to Wikipedia I go....

You forgot about those damn Gypsies.

 
2014-08-03 02:14:59 PM  
The Poles were damn near as anti-Semitic in a lot of cases as the Nazis. Many still are.
 
2014-08-03 02:15:52 PM  

cynicalbastard: The Poles were damn near as anti-Semitic in a lot of cases as the Nazis. Many still are.


That makes it ok to kill them then.
 
2014-08-03 02:16:06 PM  

slotz: They should've just taken their selfies and been on their way.


img.fark.net

Best vacation spot ever; these hotels look funny though!
 
2014-08-03 02:16:24 PM  

Someothermonkey: Considering how popular the notion of genocide seems to be in Israel right now, maybe it is 1943 again.


Muslims seem to be more efficient in exterminating other Muslims than Jews are at exterminating Muslims.

Muslims have also killed more Christians during Israels Operation Protective Edge than Jews have killed Muslims.

You are the Nancy Grace of this issue.
 
2014-08-03 02:18:01 PM  

cwheelie: Fano: [www.booksatruestory.com image 592x320]

dammit!


...and that's what ye'll get, lad. The strongest concentration camp in the Ostreich.
 
2014-08-03 02:18:10 PM  
Given the current attitude of Jews in Israel towards undesirables in their own land; I'm going to have trouble mustering any sympathy for Jews being treated like everyone else when they are visitors in someone else's country.

The visitors at Auschwitz are expected to maintain a level of decorum, obey instructions of security, and be considerate of other visitors. If anyone cannot do that, they should anticipate being treated according to local laws.
 
2014-08-03 02:20:21 PM  

iheartscotch: Horrible old bad joke time!

My grandpa died at a concentration camp. He fell out of a guard tower.


It is an old bad joke and the first time I heard it the set up went:  "Did you know that Patrick Buchanan lost an uncle at Auschwitz?"
 
2014-08-03 02:21:18 PM  
That Jewish people would demand preferential treatment anywhere is highly unusual.
 
2014-08-03 02:24:26 PM  
a7.org

What?  Was I off key or something?
 
2014-08-03 02:25:25 PM  
In the guards' defense, they were just following orders.
 
2014-08-03 02:26:54 PM  
Attention whores get attention, parlay it in to more attention by demanding special treatment.
 
2014-08-03 02:26:59 PM  

Giltric: Someothermonkey: Considering how popular the notion of genocide seems to be in Israel right now, maybe it is 1943 again.

Muslims seem to be more efficient in exterminating other Muslims than Jews are at exterminating Muslims.

Muslims have also killed more Christians during Israels Operation Protective Edge than Jews have killed Muslims.

You are the Nancy Grace of this issue.


And many of the only successful, as in 100%, recorded instances of genocide in history were carried out by Jews.
 
2014-08-03 02:27:28 PM  

Delay: Translation, please.


Have sommmme tequila
Have sommmme tequila
Have sommme tequila
I'm gonna eat the worm

/may not be an accurate translation
 
2014-08-03 02:28:47 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: [a7.org image 455x809]

What?  Was I off key or something?


img.fark.net

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
 
2014-08-03 02:28:53 PM  

Giltric: Muslims seem to be more efficient in exterminating other Muslims than Jews are at exterminating Muslims.


Well then, Israel is absolved, everyone knows two things can't be bad.
 
2014-08-03 02:32:18 PM  
Hey Rabbi, you want to cut to the front of the line to see the ovens? You're fishing for the wrong attention.
 
2014-08-03 02:32:26 PM  
I guess the idea of planning ahead and asking for permission instead of randomly disrupting everybody else's day didn't occur to them.
 
2014-08-03 02:33:50 PM  

Giltric: Someothermonkey: Considering how popular the notion of genocide seems to be in Israel right now, maybe it is 1943 again.

Muslims seem to be more efficient in exterminating other Muslims than Jews are at exterminating Muslims.

Muslims have also killed more Christians during Israels Operation Protective Edge than Jews have killed Muslims.

You are the Nancy Grace of this issue.


Okay, Sean Hannity.
 
2014-08-03 02:35:40 PM  

Fano: cwheelie: Fano: [www.booksatruestory.com image 592x320]

dammit!

...and that's what ye'll get, lad. The strongest concentration camp in the Ostreich.


The first camp was strafed by the allies and burned down. The second camp was strafed by allies, blown up with phosphorus bombs, and then burned down. This one was strafed by the allies, evacuated, then served as a hospital for allied soldiers.
 
2014-08-03 02:38:13 PM  

Fano: Fano: cwheelie: Fano: [www.booksatruestory.com image 592x320]

dammit!

...and that's what ye'll get, lad. The strongest concentration camp in the Ostreich.

The first camp was strafed by the allies and burned down. The second camp was strafed by allies, blown up with phosphorus bombs, and then burned down. This one was strafed by the allies, evacuated, then served as a hospital for allied soldiers.


"Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who..."
 
2014-08-03 02:39:01 PM  
OK, this thread is just plain wrong.

This is a non-event.  A guy got a ticket.  Move along.
 
2014-08-03 02:39:18 PM  

brapbrapbrap: Jews DID actually declare war on Germany back in 1933 - a fact that has long since been swept under the carpet, although there is a brief wikipedia article that touches on it here:


Yes, declaring boycott on buying goods is just like bombing cities with thousands of rockets/mortars. Identical.
 
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