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(New York Daily News)   An Amtrak train leaves New York City at 9AM, headed for Washington DC without its passengers. How long does it take before the conductor is fired?   ( nydailynews.com) divider line
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2014-08-03 03:50:06 PM  
A) Never, it was the porter's fault
B) Never, it was the dispatcher's fault
C) Never, the union's involved
D) Never, who the fark cares about passengers?
 
2014-08-03 03:59:46 PM  
So, take the next train in 20 minutes?

Oh wait, this is USA.
 
2014-08-03 04:00:08 PM  
The cattle-herding on Amtrak needs to end. It's time to open up those platforms, European-style, and allow riders to be responsible for catching their own trains. It works fine for commuter trains using the same station and tracks.
 
2014-08-03 04:03:05 PM  
Amtrak is a dumping ground of patronage jobs.  No one gets fired.
 
2014-08-03 04:03:07 PM  
Actually, it's more like 6 to 10 minutes.
 
2014-08-03 04:04:56 PM  
Are you sure there simply weren't any passengers?  (We are discussing Amtrak, you know.)
 
2014-08-03 04:05:00 PM  
that sooks but more importantly, what is the real key to preventing acne?
 
2014-08-03 04:05:40 PM  
Miano said he and the other abandoned travelers eventually returned to the main level, where a red-faced Amtrak manager explained what happened and passed out bags of Doritos.

'MURICA!
 
2014-08-03 04:06:18 PM  
Those passengers will know earlier than most trainloads that they'll be late thanks to Amtrak.
 
2014-08-03 04:14:18 PM  

BalugaJoe: Amtrak is a dumping ground of patronage jobs.  No one gets fired.


Is the unemployment rate not high enough already? Why do you hate America?
 
2014-08-03 04:14:21 PM  
Depends, is it a union gig?
 
2014-08-03 04:14:31 PM  
math?  not on Sunday
 
2014-08-03 04:14:31 PM  
At least they got Doritos. They deserved Fritos.
 
2014-08-03 04:14:57 PM  
However long it is, there's no doubt it will come late.
 
2014-08-03 04:17:16 PM  
OMG, the passengers were delayed a whole 2 hours. The horror.
 
2014-08-03 04:17:20 PM  

Chaminade: The cattle-herding on Amtrak needs to end. It's time to open up those platforms, European-style, and allow riders to be responsible for catching their own trains. It works fine for commuter trains using the same station and tracks.


Euro-style? Hell, every single other terminal format in the US works fine that way. Airport terminals a hundred times the size manage to run smoothly.
 
2014-08-03 04:17:46 PM  

Tax Boy: Miano said he and the other abandoned travelers eventually returned to the main level, where a red-faced Amtrak manager explained what happened and passed out bags of Doritos.

'MURICA!


If they were handing out just the Nacho Cheese flavor, I would be furious too.
If it were the Spicy Sweet Chili, I might let it slide.
 
2014-08-03 04:26:51 PM  
i4.bebo.com
 
2014-08-03 04:30:17 PM  

Chaminade: The cattle-herding on Amtrak needs to end. It's time to open up those platforms, European-style, and allow riders to be responsible for catching their own trains. It works fine for commuter trains using the same station and tracks.


The problem is that at Penn the platforms are very narrow and congested and the escalators are out of service frequently making lugging bags up stairs or waiting for the slow elevators a trial.

Because many trains use the same platform, allowing open access would be a crowd control and safety nightmare.
 
2014-08-03 04:30:46 PM  

foxyshadis: Euro-style? Hell, every single other terminal format in the US works fine that way. Airport terminals a hundred times the size manage to run smoothly.


If by "smoothly" you mean that you have to get to the airport an hour in advance to navigate all the fark'n checkpoints.  Then I guess that's "smooth".

/and no - not "every single other terminal format in the US works fine that way"
 
2014-08-03 04:33:29 PM  

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2014-08-03 04:33:55 PM  

dolphkhan: Depends, is it a union gig?


FTFA:

The manager said the conductor left without getting the okay, Miano said.

"He said that in all the years he was working there, something like this has never happened before," Miano said. "Those were his exact words."

This is why it's news. It's not happened before in the thousands of annual train departures from Penn.

OTOH, there's talk of demolishing MSG above Penn Station and I hope they redesign the station too. It's way too confusing with Subway, LIRR, NJT, and Amtrak all spread out with poor signage and ramp access for rolling luggage.
 
2014-08-03 04:34:36 PM  
The worst part of Penn Station is the vampire cosplayers who choose the *damndest* locations to play out their little scenarios.  I was trying to lug a huge duffel bag (it was full of human heads, but that had nothing to do with the rest of the story) up a flight of steps and the asshole wouldn't stop gnawing on the neck of this 40-year-old secretary-type that he was apparently the kink for.

I mean, Christ, it's not like there aren't 100 Duane Reades on every street in Manhattan if you need to get your fang thing on.
 
2014-08-03 04:38:12 PM  

spawn73: So, take the next train in 20 minutes?

Oh wait, this is USA.


This is an Acela train , which is faster because it makes fewer stops . So they can board another train later, but the delay will be major, not just a few minutes.

What is really stupid is that this is money maker for Amtrak,but I guess when you get bailed out periodically you stop paying attention to the lucrative routes as well.
 
2014-08-03 04:38:25 PM  
God damn it, Yukari!
 
2014-08-03 04:40:33 PM  
This conductor sounds like a KOOK-a-monga!
 
2014-08-03 04:42:13 PM  

lohphat: Chaminade: The cattle-herding on Amtrak needs to end. It's time to open up those platforms, European-style, and allow riders to be responsible for catching their own trains. It works fine for commuter trains using the same station and tracks.

The problem is that at Penn the platforms are very narrow and congested and the escalators are out of service frequently making lugging bags up stairs or waiting for the slow elevators a trial.

Because many trains use the same platform, allowing open access would be a crowd control and safety nightmare.


Yeah, Penn Station is the problem. It would be okay if the escalators were broken more often. On most days they're running down in the morning and up in the evening.
 
2014-08-03 04:48:48 PM  
They literally sent us to the wrong platform, and the conductor took off without any passengers," said Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea. "The right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. It was just so bizarre."

Yeah, reading is hard, subtard.
 
2014-08-03 04:52:16 PM  

Bslim: They literally sent us to the wrong platform, and the conductor took off without any passengers," said Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea. "The right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. It was just so bizarre."

Yeah, reading is hard, subtard.


THIS.

The conductor should have called dispatch when the platform was empty but really it's dispatch/announcement inside Penn which misdirected passengers.
 
2014-08-03 04:53:01 PM  
This happened at 3 pm.

/guess it was 9 am somewhere?
 
2014-08-03 04:54:37 PM  
This just in... Amtrak still sucks and needs to go out of business.

This headline is a repeat every year since 1971.
 
2014-08-03 04:55:10 PM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: This conductor sounds like a KOOK-a-monga!


ATTENTION, PLEASE! ATTENTION!
Train now leaving on track two.
Goes all the way to Kalamazoo.
Takes on water at Waterloo.
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com
/now cut that out!
 
2014-08-03 05:02:29 PM  
Customers shocked by conductor, offer fierce resistance.
 
2014-08-03 05:02:39 PM  
Coulda been worse, coulda been Cool Ranch.
 
2014-08-03 05:11:01 PM  
blog.adw.org
 
2014-08-03 05:12:57 PM  
Normally when Amtrack is in the news, it's a derailment. These people need to find something worse to complain about on Twitter.

Or take Greyhound. That will give you something to tweet about.
 
2014-08-03 05:16:48 PM  
Tries to explain the Daily News. Stumped.

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-03 05:17:58 PM  

gblive: This just in... Amtrak still sucks and needs to go out of business.

This headline is a repeat every year since 1971.


The reason it sucks is because the government is incompetent when it comes to public transportation.

The fail is the idea that public transportation is a moneymaker. It is not. Trains and busses in Europe do not make huge profits. The governments there realize the value of inexpensive transportation that is available to all.

We have the same issue with the postal service - it eas never intended to be profitable. It is a public service to have a cheap means of communication.
 
2014-08-03 05:22:52 PM  
No, it was a trainload of ninjas. OF COURSE you didn't see them
 
2014-08-03 05:23:45 PM  

gblive: This just in... Amtrak still sucks and needs to go out of business.

This headline is a repeat every year since 1971.


Sounds like someone complaining about the USPS when they deliver 40% of the developed world's mail for the lowest cost.

We'd have a proper, functional, modern rail system is we invested in one.
 
2014-08-03 05:26:33 PM  
How the fark does a train NOT undergoing scheduled maintenance runs pull away from a station without passengers and the train engineer/conductor not immediately realize it? Was the conductor planning to demand to see tickets from the occupants each empty car?
 
2014-08-03 05:27:30 PM  

Apos: How the fark does a train NOT undergoing scheduled maintenance runs pull away from a station without passengers and the train engineer/conductor not immediately realize it? Was the conductor planning to demand to see tickets from the occupants of each empty car?


Fixed
 
2014-08-03 05:52:30 PM  
Ah, yes, the famed no-eye express.
 
2014-08-03 05:54:37 PM  

lohphat: gblive: This just in... Amtrak still sucks and needs to go out of business.

This headline is a repeat every year since 1971.

Sounds like someone complaining about the USPS when they deliver 40% of the developed world's mail for the lowest cost.

We'd have a proper, functional, modern rail system is we invested in one.


USPS sucks, and have always sucked.

My parent met in Paris, she was an exchange student, he was doing whatever. So he returned to USA, and she to Denmark.

Letters from USA to Denmark arrived promptly. Letters from Denmark to USA, arrived, well, 1 week, 3 months, who knows.

30 years later, my mother mailed a card to my father who's on vacation (for a cheaper car rental), well guess what, the letter hasn't arrived after 2 weeks.

I gather all letters from abroad is sitting in a container somewhere, or wtf. else the USPS does to not actually just  deliver the mail.

---

Agree with you on the rail system. Build one, and you'd have it.

But you won't, so who cares.
 
2014-08-03 05:59:35 PM  
I know! Let's have MORE government run corporations!
 
2014-08-03 06:24:18 PM  

spawn73: USPS sucks, and have always sucked.

My parent met in Paris, she was an exchange student, he was doing whatever. So he returned to USA, and she to Denmark.

Letters from USA to Denmark arrived promptly. Letters from Denmark to USA, arrived, well, 1 week, 3 months, who knows.

30 years later, my mother mailed a card to my father who's on vacation (for a cheaper car rental), well guess what, the letter hasn't arrived after 2 weeks.

You provided no evidence whatsoever that USPS is to blame. The problem could be the Danish Post Office. Or maybe NSA intercepts all mail from overseas for analysis before handing it to USPS for delivery.

I have never - not once in my life - failed to receive a piece of mail that I was expecting. I routinely get mail from one coast to another in two days, at about 1/20th of what UPS or FedEx would charge for the same service. And unlike them, USPS doesn't throw my packages over a fence into a puddle and fail to tell me it's there.
 
2014-08-03 06:34:23 PM  
"They literally sent us to the wrong platform, and the conductor took off without any passengers," said Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea.

as opposed to "figuratively" sending you to the wrong platform?
Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea thinks he's smarter than he really is.
 
2014-08-03 06:37:52 PM  

meddleRPI: I know! Let's have MORE government run corporations!


Oh look. Someone who doesn't understand the difference between a business and infrastructure.

I assume you love the service you get from your privately run cable company.
 
2014-08-03 06:46:36 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: "They literally sent us to the wrong platform, and the conductor took off without any passengers," said Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea.

as opposed to "figuratively" sending you to the wrong platform?
Damien Miano, 60, of Chelsea thinks he's smarter than he really is.


Well, as long as you're figuratively on the right platform, you can still board the metaphorical train.
 
2014-08-03 06:55:35 PM  

ImpendingCynic: spawn73: USPS sucks, and have always sucked.

My parent met in Paris, she was an exchange student, he was doing whatever. So he returned to USA, and she to Denmark.

Letters from USA to Denmark arrived promptly. Letters from Denmark to USA, arrived, well, 1 week, 3 months, who knows.

30 years later, my mother mailed a card to my father who's on vacation (for a cheaper car rental), well guess what, the letter hasn't arrived after 2 weeks.
You provided no evidence whatsoever that USPS is to blame. The problem could be the Danish Post Office. Or maybe NSA intercepts all mail from overseas for analysis before handing it to USPS for delivery.

I have never - not once in my life - failed to receive a piece of mail that I was expecting. I routinely get mail from one coast to another in two days, at about 1/20th of what UPS or FedEx would charge for the same service. And unlike them, USPS doesn't throw my packages over a fence into a puddle and fail to tell me it's there.


That is true.

Danish mail always arrives just fine, just not to USA, or for 15-20 years ago, Southern Europe.

Just take my word for it. USPS is a joke. Though it doesn't rank as low as American banks.

My sister was an exchange student, and the Danish bank adviced that to get money to her was to /not/ use a bank transfer, as the banks would simply take the money (they did too, they got the advice after realising that the money just dissapeared).

So, back to mailing 100USD notes through the mail.

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You never wondered why it is USA that has numerous alternative parcel services, or money transfer systems? Like, you think that's normal?
 
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