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(Some Guy)   Somebody had British people fill in all of their American stereotypes on maps of the US. Come for MS: "Named by a cat walking across a keyboard", stay for RI: "Tiny; Stoned Students; Not a real place; Not in Rhodes; Not an Island"   (liberalamerica.org) divider line 250
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2014-08-03 05:39:04 PM  

graeylin: Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: iheartscotch: Tornados and the wizard of oz? At least they aren't asking if we still get ambushed by Indians. I actually had a French girl ask me about Indians while I was in Ireland. The answer is: they usually just hang out, build casinos, sell whiskey, fireworks and meth.

To be far that's what most Americans think about Kansas when they think of it. Has anything worth while came from that sad state?

Dwight David Eisenhower, Leader of the combined Allied Forces, director of the D-day invasion, proponent of the US Interstate system.
Langston Hughes, artist, author, poet
Charlie Parker, jazz musician
Joe Walsh, musician of some fame
Gale Sayers, kind of a decent footballer
James Naismith, inventor of basketball
Amelia Earhart, aviatrix
Koch brothers, own much of the world
Walter Chrysler, of the same motor company
Russell Stover, candy maker
R Lee Ermy, Dennis Hopper, Buster Keaton, actors
Erin Brockovich, activist


And yet all anyone cares about is: Wizard of Oz, and shiatload of cornfields. And if they follow politics: about to go down in flames thanks to Brownback.
 
2014-08-03 05:39:29 PM  
I loled at fake Irish people and light inbreeding.
 
2014-08-03 05:40:40 PM  
Michigan is... Pretty damn accurate. At least "basically Canada" over the UP

/put your hands up for Detroit is adorable
 
2014-08-03 05:41:26 PM  

phamwaa: exvaxman: Terrible cheese? In my area?  No Farking way.
(well, to be honest there are a lot of processed cheese makers here, but there are some awesome places).
At least upstate they had "cheese".

I don't see how the fark Brits can rank food with a straight face.


There are actually a lot of British foods superior to what is in America. Cheese is definitely one of them.

British restaurants and pubs have terrible foods (in general) but there is good food to be had.
 
2014-08-03 05:42:42 PM  

CleanAndPure: Doctor Who is actually filmed in Cardiff. Not even in England!


And many TV shows or movies set in the US are actually filmed in Canada.
 
2014-08-03 05:44:21 PM  

CleanAndPure: phamwaa: exvaxman: Terrible cheese? In my area?  No Farking way.
(well, to be honest there are a lot of processed cheese makers here, but there are some awesome places).
At least upstate they had "cheese".

I don't see how the fark Brits can rank food with a straight face.

There are actually a lot of British foods superior to what is in America. Cheese is definitely one of them.

British restaurants and pubs have terrible foods (in general) but there is good food to be had.


There are more Michelin starred restaurants in the UK than the USA.
 
2014-08-03 05:44:50 PM  

CleanAndPure: British restaurants and pubs have terrible foods (in general) but there is good food to be had.


Loads of British restaurants and pubs serve plenty of great food, just as do loads of American restaurants and sports bars. It's just a matter of finding the right ones, not the masses that serve really shiat food -- but that's true in any country.

I hate sweeping generalizations like yours that are just plain wrong.
 
2014-08-03 05:48:39 PM  
Sadly more Britons equate Obama with Hawaii then Americans.
 
2014-08-03 05:54:03 PM  

dennysgod: Sadly more Britons equate Obama with Hawaii then Americans.


Correct, most American equate Obama with Kenya.
 
2014-08-03 05:54:51 PM  

casey17: Forbidden Doughnut: PNW: weed, rain, and hipsters...

/// they certainly know more about me than I do about them (eg. where do "Chavs" live?)

According to Yahoo Answers:

Moss Side - Manchester
Toxteth - Liverpool
Peckham or Tower Hamlets - London
Wyrley Birch/Newtown - Birmingham
Heath Town - Wolverhampton
Hartcliffe - Bristol

Huh. I thought they lived in Croydon, where Kate Moss is from.


Croydon has become too gentrified.

My GG lives in Shirley, a village next to East Croydon.

/and don't call me Croydon
 
2014-08-03 05:55:21 PM  

FatherDale: lindalouwho: Farms in Pittsburgh?
Guess they forgot about the industrial revolution. And know nothing of robotics, tech, and state of the art hospitals/research.

My wife grew up on a farm just East of Pittsburgh (labelled "Amish"). So yeah, they're there. W. of Moon Township, N. of Fox Chapel, S. of South Hills, East of Monroeville. Cuz Pittsburghers like to eat.


Murrysvillian reporting in...  Back in the day there were farms; we went to Rubright's every week for fresh whole milk and Carnahan's every week during the summer for fresh produce.  They're pretty much all long gone now.
 
2014-08-03 06:07:48 PM  
FTFA: BuzzFeed U.K. asked its staff...

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-03 06:08:04 PM  
"British People Have Even the REMOTEST Concept of What is Where in America."

I'm not seeing a problem here.
 
2014-08-03 06:08:17 PM  

lohphat: casey17: Forbidden Doughnut: PNW: weed, rain, and hipsters...

/// they certainly know more about me than I do about them (eg. where do "Chavs" live?)

According to Yahoo Answers:

Moss Side - Manchester
Toxteth - Liverpool
Peckham or Tower Hamlets - London
Wyrley Birch/Newtown - Birmingham
Heath Town - Wolverhampton
Hartcliffe - Bristol

Huh. I thought they lived in Croydon, where Kate Moss is from.

Croydon has become too gentrified.

My GG lives in Shirley, a village next to East Croydon.

/and don't call me Croydon


Croydon gentrified?

I dread to imagine the kind of shiat-holes you must frequent.
 
2014-08-03 06:15:00 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across:
Croydon has become too gentrified.

My GG lives in Shirley, a village next to East Croydon.

/and don't call me Croydon

Croydon gentrified?

I dread to imagine the kind of shiat-holes you must frequent.


The White Bear
 
2014-08-03 06:17:10 PM  

Land_of_the_Magic_Dragon: To be far that's what most Americans think about Kansas when they think of it. Has anything worth while came from that sad state?


The Eisenhower Interstate System?

/you're right
 
2014-08-03 06:25:11 PM  

12349876: tripleseven: Sliding Carp: About the only thing on there I'd disagree with is 'lakes' for Indiana.  Where did they get that?

I suspect that if we tried that with US people labeling the UK, if they gave us a big enough map to work with, we'd put London  in Scotland, Wales in Switzerland, call Ireland Greenland,  and every single label would be 'funny accent'.

This leads me to believe that the people who made this were not Brits. Not rank and file Brits anyway. Probably expats here for a long time, or Americans.

Fake Irish people for Boston was pretty funny though.

Brits get a lot more American media saturation than vice versa.  But there is a reason why there's responses like Where? and I Dunno and Empty.  A lot of the contestants on Pointless (a game show where contestants get several sort of related questions or a question with several answers and try to get the most obscure correct answer) seem to do a decent job on American questions.  Assuming they're not picking out the absolute best and brightest (I'm assuming they're not as strict as Jeopardy/Mastermind), they do a hell of a lot better than the average American would about similar things in Britain.


Not to the degree of accuracy portrayed in the map.

Unless their contributor pool is gigantic and they only listed the accurate ones on the map.

I find the avg Brit and the avg american just as dumb as each other.
Source: my dual us/UK citizenship.
 
2014-08-03 06:27:20 PM  

wax_on: Eh. I'm calling shenanigans. No way do British people know that much about the U.S. and it's geography/ethnology. Occams's razor. It's much more likely that some snarky American did this and is trying to sell it as the work of the Brits.

 
2014-08-03 06:48:22 PM  

Dimensio: firesign: Dimensio: As expected, Texas is known for "guns", which shows that many foreigners are wholly ignorant of Kentucky.

I don't think knowledge or not of Kentucjy has one damn thing at all to do with this stereotype, man:


/not foreign

Texas has developed the reputation through bluster. Kentucky, on the other hand, is a genuine den of gun nuttery.

/Kentucky resident and firearm owner.


I've noticed that Kentuckians are similar to Texans in temperment, only not as loud. Texas; the New York of the south. :)
 
2014-08-03 07:12:28 PM  

limboslam: Oh look, it's the Brits' monthly attempt at feeling better about themselves....next month, a stunning expose in some British rag about cousins marrying cousins in Kentucky.


Bits tend to have a good sense of humor, partly on account of being drunk most of the time, and they assume that other people can also take a bit of a lighthearted joke from time to time, this lapse in judgement may also be alcohol induced.
 
2014-08-03 07:18:10 PM  

lohphat: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across:
Croydon has become too gentrified.

My GG lives in Shirley, a village next to East Croydon.

/and don't call me Croydon

Croydon gentrified?

I dread to imagine the kind of shiat-holes you must frequent.

The White Bear


White Bear
 Fairchildes Lane,
Warlingham, Surrey, CR6 9PH


The White Bear is a beautiful 16th century country inn, full of character, nestling in the tiny hamlet of Fickleshole in the heart of the North Downs countryside, yet only seven miles from Croydon.


When people say Croydon, they usually mean the town, you're thinking of the borough, which consists of a lot of suburban and semi rural Surrey.

... and areas like that haven't really become gentrified, not unless you're still counting the Victorian era movement of the middle classes out of London.

As for the Croydon proper, it's been a noted dump for years now and since the credit crunch it's only gotten worse.

I do love the idea of you taking a stroll down Church Street and telling people how Croydon has become too gentrified; but please God don't ever actually try it. The ones who understand what gentrified means will think you're taking the piss and the ones who don't will probably just hit you on general principle.

Ans to answer the original question, yes, there are chavs in Croydon.
 
2014-08-03 07:26:29 PM  
I love that people think of Slipknot when they talk of Iowa.

/I have never heard any of their music
 
2014-08-03 07:32:57 PM  

lindalouwho: Farms in Pittsburgh?
Guess they forgot about the industrial revolution.


I think you mean the second (coal-based) industrial revolution. The first one was powered by water and took place in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

/I went to grad school in England and most of my (British) housemates could name all of the U.S. states. The weird thing is that while I do it by starting at Maine and working my way down in columns going west, they did it alphabetically.
 
2014-08-03 07:43:57 PM  
I'm an Egyptian!
2014-08-03 02:20:13 PM


Accurate overall, with some exceptions. But Swedish for Connecticut? Really? How the hell do the Swedish fit in?

------------------------------------------------------
Thats a Insult son, a dam rich one.
Check the history books.
LoL
 
2014-08-03 07:46:09 PM  
I live in the "massive hats" and "not to be messed with" part of Texas. Nailed it ...
 
2014-08-03 07:49:03 PM  

Fear the Clam: The weird thing is that while I do it by starting at Maine and working my way down in columns going west, they did it alphabetically.


I learned it this way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDrGnjacvA

/fifty nifty united states from thirteen original colonies
 
2014-08-03 07:51:32 PM  

Fear the Clam: lindalouwho: Farms in Pittsburgh?
Guess they forgot about the industrial revolution.

I think you mean the second (coal-based) industrial revolution. The first one was powered by water and took place in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

/I went to grad school in England and most of my (British) housemates could name all of the U.S. states. The weird thing is that while I do it by starting at Maine and working my way down in columns going west, they did it alphabetically.


Sure sounds less messy - also involve robber barons?

Yeah, my guess about naming the states is since we had to learn the 13 original colonies first, most US kids learned by columns.
 
2014-08-03 07:52:48 PM  
Atlanta got zombies and Outkast. Nice, and glad to see people don't automatically go with Scarlett O'Hara any more.
 
2014-08-03 07:57:19 PM  

12349876: Fear the Clam: The weird thing is that while I do it by starting at Maine and working my way down in columns going west, they did it alphabetically.

I learned it this way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDrGnjacvA

/fifty nifty united states from thirteen original colonies


Wow, I have never heard this!!
Thanks for the link.

/stands somewhat corrected
//old, but loves learning new stuff
 
2014-08-03 08:13:18 PM  

Empty H: North Carolina : bibles (check), grits (check), jazz music (what?)


NC is actually full of good jazz musicians, but basically no one outside a few cities wants to hear jazz.
 
2014-08-03 08:14:19 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.fark.net image 137x159]

Yup.  They nailed it.


That is fine by me, keeps out the riff raff...

/except during election time, then I wish I lived someplace not as important.
 
2014-08-03 08:18:30 PM  

phillydrifter: fastfxr: That was compiled by Americans posing as Brits. Every Brit I know understands little of the states--and these are PhDs--so I doubt they know minutiae about all 50 states.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 228x346]

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I used that book as one of my textbooks a few years back.
 
2014-08-03 08:18:50 PM  

Fissile: lindalouwho: Farms in Pittsburgh?
Guess they forgot about the industrial revolution. And know nothing of robotics, tech, and state of the art hospitals/research.

Google up the history of Paterson, NJ, that's were American industry began.  Paterson was founded as an industrial city, and was the first city in the new US of A to have its streets laid out on a grid pattern.


NJ was the high tech corridor well into the 50s. Most any new invention caught on there before it went anywhere.
 
2014-08-03 08:20:57 PM  
"Dexter"....niiiiiice
 
2014-08-03 08:27:31 PM  
"Not in Rhodes; Not an Island"

1) The state's name is "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations"
2) "Rhode Island" is/was Aquidneck Island which, in 1637, was renamed by Roger Williams with these words: "Aquethneck shall be henceforth called the Isle of Rodes or Rhode-Island."

/stupid Brits
 
2014-08-03 08:31:48 PM  

gweilo8888: CleanAndPure: British restaurants and pubs have terrible foods (in general) but there is good food to be had.

Loads of British restaurants and pubs serve plenty of great food, just as do loads of American restaurants and sports bars. It's just a matter of finding the right ones, not the masses that serve really shiat food -- but that's true in any country.

I hate sweeping generalizations like yours that are just plain wrong.


The "in general" was there to imply not true of all.

Of course there are good restaurants/pub eateries in Britain. However the vast majority are not very good.

Britain's best foods arnt from restaurants typically. It is the poor state of Britain's eat out places that give Britain the reputation of bad food because that is what foreigners experience.
 
2014-08-03 08:33:03 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: http://www.porterandsorterpub.co.uk/

As for the Croydon proper, it's been a noted dump for years now and since the credit crunch it's only gotten worse.

I do love the idea of you taking a stroll down Church Street and telling people how Croydon has become too gentrified; but please God don't ever actually try it. The ones who understand what gentrified means will think you're taking the piss and the ones who don't will probably just hit you on general principle.

Ans to answer the original question, yes, there are chavs in Croydon.


The http://www.porterandsorterpub.co.uk behind the station went from a smash a pint glass on yer mate's head to a somewhat clean and respectable pub.

The Crown http://www.emberinns.co.uk/the-crown-shirley/ is pleasant enough too.

My experience in the area is admittedly limited not being a local but the changes I've seen in 15 years is that it's not a shiathole, the tram system is popular and well liked, and it's a commutable and affordable suburb of London.
 
2014-08-03 08:33:13 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: "Not in Rhodes; Not an Island"

1) The state's name is "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations"
2) "Rhode Island" is/was Aquidneck Island which, in 1637, was renamed by Roger Williams with these words: "Aquethneck shall be henceforth called the Isle of Rodes or Rhode-Island."

/stupid Brits


No. Brits are correct.

The State isn't an island.
 
2014-08-03 08:41:03 PM  
lindalouwho:Sure sounds less messy - also involve robber barons?

Nope; too early for that. As a consolation, though, Slater Mill in Pawtucket (the first water-powered factory in the U.S.) was based on stolen intellectual property from the British. (Who says you never learn anything on school field trips?)

Yeah, my guess about naming the states is since we had to learn the 13 original colonies first, most US kids learned by columns.

I grew up in Rhode Island so it was easy to start with New England and just work out from that corner.
 
2014-08-03 08:45:56 PM  

I'm an Egyptian!: Accurate overall, with some exceptions. But Swedish for Connecticut? Really? How the hell do the Swedish fit in?

Take off their hats. Wait, wrong joke...
 
2014-08-03 09:00:30 PM  

tripleseven: 12349876: tripleseven: Sliding Carp: About the only thing on there I'd disagree with is 'lakes' for Indiana.  Where did they get that?

I suspect that if we tried that with US people labeling the UK, if they gave us a big enough map to work with, we'd put London  in Scotland, Wales in Switzerland, call Ireland Greenland,  and every single label would be 'funny accent'.

This leads me to believe that the people who made this were not Brits. Not rank and file Brits anyway. Probably expats here for a long time, or Americans.

Fake Irish people for Boston was pretty funny though.

Brits get a lot more American media saturation than vice versa.  But there is a reason why there's responses like Where? and I Dunno and Empty.  A lot of the contestants on Pointless (a game show where contestants get several sort of related questions or a question with several answers and try to get the most obscure correct answer) seem to do a decent job on American questions.  Assuming they're not picking out the absolute best and brightest (I'm assuming they're not as strict as Jeopardy/Mastermind), they do a hell of a lot better than the average American would about similar things in Britain.

Not to the degree of accuracy portrayed in the map.

Unless their contributor pool is gigantic and they only listed the accurate ones on the map.

I find the avg Brit and the avg american just as dumb as each other.
Source: my dual us/UK citizenship.


Corroboration: SOMEBODY is buying the Daily Mail and its ilk.
 
2014-08-03 09:06:56 PM  

Fano: tripleseven: Sliding Carp: About the only thing on there I'd disagree with is 'lakes' for Indiana.  Where did they get that?

I suspect that if we tried that with US people labeling the UK, if they gave us a big enough map to work with, we'd put London  in Scotland, Wales in Switzerland, call Ireland Greenland,  and every single label would be 'funny accent'.

This leads me to believe that the people who made this were not Brits. Not rank and file Brits anyway. Probably expats here for a long time, or Americans.

Fake Irish people for Boston was pretty funny though.

Almost certainly. Most foreigners would be incapable of doing such a thing for any other country. Anyway, I was glad to get away with only "light imbreeding"


Yeah, no kidding... Even people who live here don't know there are rehab centers in the southern part of Arizona.  Doubt you could find a single Brit who would say rehab centers are anywhere other than Beverly Hills.

Fake map is fake.
 
2014-08-03 09:40:07 PM  
Did the author really say "New Mexico has a reputation for meth.  Wow.  Who knew?"?
 
2014-08-03 09:43:13 PM  
I call shenanigans.

Some of these are too subtly close to reality to have come from anyone but locals (like "basically Canada").

I still laughed at the white walkers in Alaska though.
 
2014-08-03 10:03:54 PM  
London?

Yeah, London - bad food, worse weather... LONDON!
 
2014-08-03 10:19:08 PM  

CleanAndPure: ArcadianRefugee: "Not in Rhodes; Not an Island"

1) The state's name is "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations"
2) "Rhode Island" is/was Aquidneck Island which, in 1637, was renamed by Roger Williams with these words: "Aquethneck shall be henceforth called the Isle of Rodes or Rhode-Island."

/stupid Brits

No. Brits are correct.

The State isn't an island.


You're right. And it doesn't claim to be. It's name also isn't Rhode Island.
 
2014-08-03 10:24:14 PM  
Ahhh...Obama, Sufjan Stevens, corn, farms, bribes, trains, and a tall building....yep IL in a nutshell
 
2014-08-03 10:29:13 PM  

CleanAndPure: ArcadianRefugee: "Not in Rhodes; Not an Island"

1) The state's name is "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations"
2) "Rhode Island" is/was Aquidneck Island which, in 1637, was renamed by Roger Williams with these words: "Aquethneck shall be henceforth called the Isle of Rodes or Rhode-Island."

/stupid Brits

No. Brits are correct.

The State isn't an island.


Read it again.  There is no state called "Rhode Island."
 
2014-08-03 10:33:23 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: You're right. And it doesn't claim to be. It's name also isn't Rhode Island.


Persnickety: Read it again. There is no state called "Rhode Island."


A couple of Rhodes scholars.
 
2014-08-03 10:38:27 PM  
dnrtfa... was this covered?

i.imgur.com
 
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