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2014-08-03 02:36:47 AM  
I think the word that you are looking for is "gullible".
 
2014-08-03 03:55:22 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-03 04:04:35 AM  
People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*
 
2014-08-03 05:17:34 AM  
Fark you, Trekkie.
 
2014-08-03 06:32:07 AM  

Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*


That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.
 
2014-08-03 06:41:10 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.


Also, the young tend to be more open-minded than the old - and while the books were widely read by adults, I'm still pretty sure the majority of their market was children's and YA.
 
2014-08-03 06:43:27 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.


If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.
 
2014-08-03 07:12:19 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.


Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.
 
2014-08-03 07:20:52 AM  

Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*


And less likely to have parents who think that books about wizards are a tool of the Debbil.
 
2014-08-03 07:31:03 AM  

August11: B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.

Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.


I would say I agree with all of this to some degree. Reading anything does help strengthen your understanding of other people. But you also have to stray away from your comfort zone to expand your horizons. Read things that challenge your beliefs, or are about subjects you may not care for, to really soften up your walls. All writings both fictional and factual can help to teach insight and wisdom, but first there has to be the willingness to let it in.
 
2014-08-03 07:52:46 AM  

Krusty_the_Barbarian: August11: B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.

Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.

I would say I agree with all of this to some degree. Reading anything does help strengthen your understanding of other people. But you also have to stray away from your comfort zone to expand your horizons. Read things that challenge your beliefs, or are about subjects you may not care for, to really soften up your walls. All writings both fictional and factual can help to teach insight and wisdom, but first there has to be the willingness to let it in.


All good points. But where does that willingness come from? Do all children have it? And then it is augmented book by book?

I'm thinking we are all predisposed to seeing things in a new way. It is only an advatage. Books are the easiest way of increasing this shared experience.
 
2014-08-03 08:04:45 AM  
What if you only watched the movies?
 
2014-08-03 08:05:52 AM  

Krusty_the_Barbarian: August11: B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.

Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.

I would say I agree with all of this to some degree. Reading anything does help strengthen your understanding of other people. But you also have to stray away from your comfort zone to expand your horizons. Read things that challenge your beliefs, or are about subjects you may not care for, to really soften up your walls. All writings both fictional and factual can help to teach insight and wisdom, but first there has to be the willingness to let it in.


While I do agree with you, one of the traditional strengths of science fiction and fantasy is the use of alternate cultures and civilizations. The best of both genres use them to hold a mirror up to our own. I don't think it's possible to read them without broadening your horizons. Hell, Star Trek was exceptionally good at it.
 
2014-08-03 08:11:43 AM  

real_headhoncho: Fark you, Trekkie.


You sound like a nerf herder...
 
2014-08-03 08:12:29 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.


Just because a magazine exists doesn't mean it has a significant readership.

How many page views does Conservopaedia have? 50 million ever? How long does it take for Fark to rack up that many?

/ that long? Oh... Never mind
 
2014-08-03 08:23:59 AM  

August11: All good points. But where does that willingness come from? Do all children have it? And then it is augmented book by book?

I'm thinking we are all predisposed to seeing things in a new way. It is only an advatage. Books are the easiest way of increasing this shared experience.


I absolutely believe we are born with it. Then environment either encourages or discourages the behavior. Either way, I think a little rebelliousness is needed as well. It starts with the first time we are told "This is the way things are." and the young mind questions "Why?" That starts the inner monologue that reading adds vocabulary to. If the books are available, and the child has the capability to read them, they are not contained by such statements.
 If they continue on that path, they are less likely to seek out an echo chamber that only re-enforces what they believe they already know.
 
2014-08-03 08:38:04 AM  
Hey subby, we can play a fun game. I can grow a goatee, grab a baseball bat, and demonstrate the Federation's attitude towards Vulcan in the Mirror Universe.

:)
 
2014-08-03 09:54:45 AM  

BMFPitt: And less likely to have parents who think that books about wizards are a tool of the Debbil.


I think you hit the nail on the head, almost. The study has it backwards.

It's not that folks who read Harry Potter are more likely to be open to other cultures. It's that folks who refuse to read Harry Potter (on religious grounds) are almost certainly also going to be similarly closed to real world cultures that differ in some way from their own (and maybe some that don't appreciably differ from their own in any discernible way.)

It certainly isn't true of _all_ non-readers of Harry Potter, but I'm certainly not surprised in the slightest that the derp contingent shows up in the stats.
 
2014-08-03 09:58:52 AM  

ChubbyTiger: While I do agree with you, one of the traditional strengths of science fiction and fantasy is the use of alternate cultures and civilizations. The best of both genres use them to hold a mirror up to our own. I don't think it's possible to read them without broadening your horizons. Hell, Star Trek was exceptionally good at it.


"[...] after all, if one's imagination readily grants full human rights to future AI programs, robots, dolphins, and extraterrestrial aliens, mere color and gender can't seem very important any more." -ESR
 
2014-08-03 10:14:28 AM  

MooseUpNorth: ChubbyTiger: While I do agree with you, one of the traditional strengths of science fiction and fantasy is the use of alternate cultures and civilizations. The best of both genres use them to hold a mirror up to our own. I don't think it's possible to read them without broadening your horizons. Hell, Star Trek was exceptionally good at it.

"[...] after all, if one's imagination readily grants full human rights to future AI programs, robots, dolphins, and extraterrestrial aliens, mere color and gender can't seem very important any more." -ESR


While seeming corny and downright cheesy on a MST3K level today, Star Trek was pretty controversial and important in it's day, taking on some major themes of gender, class, and color through it's stories that are lost on the younger and new generation of viewers.
 
2014-08-03 10:21:35 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.


1) The effect is on the average.  There will still be bigots that read in general and read Harry Potter in particular.

2) While good material can and does have an effect, the majority of the effect is simply reading.  If you read a lot, unless there been a huge censorship of what you have read, you will have encountered people unlike yourself who can be seen as people.  Plus, you will see some of the dogmas of your own community challenged.
 
2014-08-03 11:57:29 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.


Oh bullshiat, there's nothing enlightened about the medium. People read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter, too.
 
2014-08-03 12:31:32 PM  

moothemagiccow: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

Oh bullshiat, there's nothing enlightened about the medium. People read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter, too.


Dumb-farking idiots read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter and Mein Kampf, too.   FTFY
 
2014-08-03 02:23:27 PM  
PEOPLE, CALM DOWN!

We read Fark. Who are we to judge intelligence and openmindedness?
 
2014-08-03 03:50:17 PM  

Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*


THIS!
 
2014-08-03 04:43:50 PM  

strangeluck: real_headhoncho: Fark you, Trekkie.

You sound like a nerf herder...


A scruffy nerf herder.
 
2014-08-03 04:58:56 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: strangeluck: real_headhoncho: Fark you, Trekkie.

You sound like a nerf herder...

A scruffy nerf herder.


Who are you calling scruffy?
 
2014-08-03 05:05:40 PM  

Ghost Roach: PEOPLE, CALM DOWN!

We read Fark. Who are we to judge intelligence and openmindedness?


I damn near spit soda laughing, you have an excellent point.
 
2014-08-03 05:21:29 PM  

strangeluck: real_headhoncho: Fark you, Trekkie.

You sound like a nerf herder...


HEY! That's OUR word!
 
2014-08-03 06:50:55 PM  

August11: B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.

Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.


Satan, You Can't Have My Children.

Arming Yourself Against The Weapons of the Devil

Old Testament Prophecy In Your Life

Check out the selection at any truckstop and weep at the "inspirational books" section. Usually those are the only books I see out here on the road. A lot of crap that promotes closemindedness and fear of the world around us.
 
2014-08-03 07:12:51 PM  

BolloxReader: August11: B.L.Z. Bub: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

If that were true, then why are there newsletters, magazines and blogs for all kinds of mindsets, including the "narrowminded"?

You say "People who read anything" as if just reading will grant you wisdom. No, it depends on WHAT you read. Obviously.

Actually I'm not sure about this. I sometimes think the act of reading, which is often thinking with someone else's brain, or at least seeing through another set of eyes, is enough to create a more reflective or thoughtful person.

Satan, You Can't Have My Children.

Arming Yourself Against The Weapons of the Devil

Old Testament Prophecy In Your Life

Check out the selection at any truckstop and weep at the "inspirational books" section. Usually those are the only books I see out here on the road. A lot of crap that promotes closemindedness and fear of the world around us.


I'm no stranger to truck stops on 80, but one thing I am sure of, humans are mobile. Move away from bad people and move toward good people. I have a massive library. People can borrow. Most. But not all.
 
2014-08-03 07:38:59 PM  

PaulRB: moothemagiccow: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

Oh bullshiat, there's nothing enlightened about the medium. People read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter, too.

Dumb-farking idiots read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter and Mein Kampf, too.   FTFY


But they're geniuses because they READ
 
2014-08-03 07:43:59 PM  

August11: I'm no stranger to truck stops on 80, but one thing I am sure of, humans are mobile. Move away from bad people and move toward good people. I have a massive library. People can borrow. Most. But not all.


Oh stuff it. Bad and good people don't draw borders between each other and refuse to cross them. You make it sound like a comic book. There's no Legion of Doom in the southwest part of town. People are complex and people of all stripes are everywhere. Labelling and categorizing people as "good" and "bad" doesn't work and doesn't make sense.
 
2014-08-03 07:57:36 PM  

moothemagiccow: August11: I'm no stranger to truck stops on 80, but one thing I am sure of, humans are mobile. Move away from bad people and move toward good people. I have a massive library. People can borrow. Most. But not all.

Oh stuff it. Bad and good people don't draw borders between each other and refuse to cross them. You make it sound like a comic book. There's no Legion of Doom in the southwest part of town. People are complex and people of all stripes are everywhere. Labelling and categorizing people as "good" and "bad" doesn't work and doesn't make sense.


I enjoy your rational behavior on the internet. You live in a comic book, though you have failed to grasp this. You are the forty second on the library's uninvited list. Sir.
 
2014-08-03 09:12:23 PM  

moothemagiccow: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

Oh bullshiat, there's nothing enlightened about the medium. People read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter, too.


I was speaking on averages.  Obviously not everyone who reads is open-minded, nor do they necessarily read things that expand their worldview.

But I would wager that the population of people who read, on average, is probably more open-minded than the population of people who don't read books at all.
 
2014-08-03 09:21:42 PM  

Doc Daneeka: moothemagiccow: Doc Daneeka: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

That's what I was going to say.

People who read anything are probably more likely to be open-minded compared to people who don't read.

Oh bullshiat, there's nothing enlightened about the medium. People read Ayn Rand and Ann Coulter, too.

I was speaking on averages.  Obviously not everyone who reads is open-minded, nor do they necessarily read things that expand their worldview.

But I would wager that the population of people who read, on average, is probably more open-minded than the population of people who don't read books at all.


Because books, be they novels, biographies, instruction manuals or the coloring type automatically make you smart and good. What's your threshold for "people who read?" Book a year? Month? Day? This makes as much sense as "people with glasses are eggheads" or "Asians - good at math ..or great at math?"
 
2014-08-03 10:56:30 PM  
There was a  really strong fundamentalist Christian backlash to the Harry Potter books.

Therefore, if you've read the entire series, you're significantly less likely than average to be Christian, and almost guaranteed not to be a fundie.

Since all of the bigotries and biases in TFA have almost no source  other than Christianity (and to a lesser extent Islam) in the first world... chances are that statistically if you're an HP reader you're less likely to have them just because of the above.
 
2014-08-03 11:15:47 PM  

BMFPitt: Grahor: People who READ are more likely...

*sigh*

And less likely to have parents who think that books about wizards are a tool of the Debbil.


I am the right age and southern enough to have met kids in my elementary/ middle school years who had parents that not only wouldn't let them read Harry Potter, but also wouldn't let them play Pokemon Blue/Red because it encouraged Darwinist beliefs.......so those kids were left out of probably the two biggest pop culture events of their childhood because their parents had a toddler level undestanding of the difference between fantasy and reality.
 
2014-08-04 07:06:43 AM  

Krusty_the_Barbarian: If they continue on that path, they are less likely to seek out an echo chamber that only re-enforces what they believe they already know.


www.doctorwhotv.co.uk
 
2014-08-04 09:37:00 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
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