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(BBC)   Local government taking too long to repair damaged road? Just rent a farmer's field and build your own toll road   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 33
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2014-08-02 11:54:40 PM  
They'll probably make him pay the cost of tearing it up again once the old road is fixed.
 
2014-08-03 12:25:34 AM  
TONIGHT, on Top Gear.
 
2014-08-03 01:16:28 AM  
Ah the brutal, cut-throat capitalist environment of Great Britain...
 
2014-08-03 04:04:15 AM  
I like the cut of this guy's jib.
 
2014-08-03 05:37:03 AM  
There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.
 
2014-08-03 05:55:32 AM  

violentsalvation: TONIGHT, on Top Gear.


Exactly what I came here for.
 
2014-08-03 06:16:19 AM  

rev. dave: There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.


He is farked if someone has an accident. Better hang some sign your rights away TOS signs,
 
2014-08-03 06:21:40 AM  

Theory Of Null: rev. dave: There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.

He is farked if someone has an accident. Better hang some sign your rights away TOS signs,


People have accidents in parking lots every day.  No one ever sues the owners.
 
2014-08-03 06:26:10 AM  

rev. dave: There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.


Yeah don't steal... the government hates the competition.
 
2014-08-03 06:28:42 AM  

rev. dave: Theory Of Null: rev. dave: There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.

He is farked if someone has an accident. Better hang some sign your rights away TOS signs,

People have accidents in parking lots every day.  No one ever sues the owners.


Wat? Just Google "parking lot lawsuit". You'll find plenty of law firms eager to help you sue, baby, sue.
 
2014-08-03 06:29:44 AM  
New York's DOT would've come in, re-done just the shoulders on behalf of bicyclists (even though the road is out in the sticks and gets more tractor traffic than bike traffic), left the rest to decay for another decade because they had to go resurface another road nearby that had nothing wrong with it, put up two miles of traffic cones reducing traffic to a crawl then disappeared for six weeks during the height of construction season, then done a half-assed resurfacing of the first road that would come in 50% over budget and need patching by the next spring, then torn up the remaining smooth parts to lay sewer pipe and put in a new road for the developer who bought himself friends on the town council.

The developer would then build half of three McMansions before his project fizzled due to lack of buyer interest in $600,000 impossible-to-heat Chinese-drywall shiatbox mold magnets, but the DOT put up a traffic signal at the intersection anyway, after the project was abandoned and the new road blocked off.
 
2014-08-03 07:07:11 AM  

violentsalvation: TONIGHT, on Top Gear.


I mean, just how hard can it be?
 
2014-08-03 07:32:01 AM  
I've never seen retrospectively used in place of retroactively, is that a cromulent usage?
 
2014-08-03 07:37:29 AM  
He said although the road did not have planning permission he would be applying for this retrospectively.

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Now that I think of it, perhaps I should have gotten permission to build the road.
 
2014-08-03 07:41:13 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: He said although the road did not have planning permission he would be applying for this retrospectively.

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Now that I think of it, perhaps I should have gotten permission to build the road.


Yeah, it would be a real shame to be charged with highway robbery, in this day and age.
 
2014-08-03 07:47:20 AM  
They'll shut it down for $aftey reasons
 
2014-08-03 07:58:35 AM  

Gulper Eel: New York's DOT would've come in, re-done just the shoulders on behalf of bicyclists (even though the road is out in the sticks and gets more tractor traffic than bike traffic), left the rest to decay for another decade because they had to go resurface another road nearby that had nothing wrong with it, put up two miles of traffic cones reducing traffic to a crawl then disappeared for six weeks during the height of construction season, then done a half-assed resurfacing of the first road that would come in 50% over budget and need patching by the next spring, then torn up the remaining smooth parts to lay sewer pipe and put in a new road for the developer who bought himself friends on the town council.

The developer would then build half of three McMansions before his project fizzled due to lack of buyer interest in $600,000 impossible-to-heat Chinese-drywall shiatbox mold magnets, but the DOT put up a traffic signal at the intersection anyway, after the project was abandoned and the new road blocked off.


You guys are hiring your planners from Michigan now?  A couple years ago they had every East-West artery in a 4 mile radius under heavy construction all summer.  This year it has been the North-South ones.  Traffic has brutally sucked in the Metro Detroit area every summer.  Commute times have literally doubled.  It's faster to take residential streets than freeways.
 
2014-08-03 08:00:55 AM  

abhorrent1: They'll shut it down for $aftey reasons


The day before the other road opens back up. That way they can max out the fines.
 
2014-08-03 08:09:19 AM  

rev. dave: There are a lot of places, especially in the US, where that would cause all sorts of legal trouble.   You need to grease the right palms here before you can get away with that.


When things are illegal only until you bribe someone, that there is the sign of a good system.
 
2014-08-03 08:50:24 AM  

Gulper Eel: New York's DOT would've come in, re-done just the shoulders on behalf of bicyclists (even though the road is out in the sticks and gets more tractor traffic than bike traffic), left the rest to decay for another decade because they had to go resurface another road nearby that had nothing wrong with it, put up two miles of traffic cones reducing traffic to a crawl then disappeared for six weeks during the height of construction season, then done a half-assed resurfacing of the first road that would come in 50% over budget and need patching by the next spring, then torn up the remaining smooth parts to lay sewer pipe and put in a new road for the developer who bought himself friends on the town council.

The developer would then build half of three McMansions before his project fizzled due to lack of buyer interest in $600,000 impossible-to-heat Chinese-drywall shiatbox mold magnets, but the DOT put up a traffic signal at the intersection anyway, after the project was abandoned and the new road blocked off.


There ar 49 states that would give you a run for your money.  I lived in Boston for five years and walked across a bridge over the Mass pike every day.  They divided the bridge into 1/8ths an would jack hammer the cement, cut out the rebar and then lay new rebar and cement.  For five years I watch them redo each section three or four times.  They used to say if you want a job with guaranteed life time employment, no heavy lifting and a commute less than 10 miles work for Mass DOT.
 
2014-08-03 08:53:03 AM  

CruJones: I've never seen retrospectively used in place of retroactively, is that a cromulent usage?


It means now that you mention it, I should have thought about that.
It's for the best in this case. Keep claiming you'll do it next week. It's not legal, but everyone is happier.
 
2014-08-03 08:55:25 AM  
It looks like the road has proper lines and signage so unless the actual road surface fails and causes an accident I don't understand how the owner could be held liable for accidents on the road. Could he be sued? Yes.  Would liability be established? Probably not. I don't get the sue the DOTPW if I wreck my car on their road.
 
2014-08-03 09:24:26 AM  
Anybody find it odd a private citizen can build a road mich faster than government... I wonder why...
 
2014-08-03 09:38:56 AM  

Cheron: Gulper Eel: New York's DOT would've come in, re-done just the shoulders on behalf of bicyclists (even though the road is out in the sticks and gets more tractor traffic than bike traffic), left the rest to decay for another decade because they had to go resurface another road nearby that had nothing wrong with it, put up two miles of traffic cones reducing traffic to a crawl then disappeared for six weeks during the height of construction season, then done a half-assed resurfacing of the first road that would come in 50% over budget and need patching by the next spring, then torn up the remaining smooth parts to lay sewer pipe and put in a new road for the developer who bought himself friends on the town council.

The developer would then build half of three McMansions before his project fizzled due to lack of buyer interest in $600,000 impossible-to-heat Chinese-drywall shiatbox mold magnets, but the DOT put up a traffic signal at the intersection anyway, after the project was abandoned and the new road blocked off.

There ar 49 states that would give you a run for your money.  I lived in Boston for five years and walked across a bridge over the Mass pike every day.  They divided the bridge into 1/8ths an would jack hammer the cement, cut out the rebar and then lay new rebar and cement.  For five years I watch them redo each section three or four times.  They used to say if you want a job with guaranteed life time employment, no heavy lifting and a commute less than 10 miles work for Mass DOT.


I've actually been quite impressed with the Alaska DOT. They don't mess around when it comes to construction season.
 
2014-08-03 10:00:33 AM  

SecretAgentWoman: I like the cut of this guy's jib.


Yeah.
But it's like ultimate government-trolling.


/that never ends well.
 
2014-08-03 10:11:50 AM  

MyRandomName: Anybody find it odd a private citizen can build a road mich faster than government... I wonder why...


It might have something to do with that 3.5 ton weight limit on the private toll road.  I bet they simply bulldozed the dirt and slapped a thin layer of asphalt on top.
 
2014-08-03 10:16:57 AM  

MyRandomName: Anybody find it odd a private citizen can build a road mich faster than government... I wonder why...


A private citizen doesn't have to worry about rules and regulations regarding the safety of motorist. Any schmuck can rent an asphalt laying machine to lay 400m of road over a corn field over a weekend.
 
2014-08-03 11:39:24 AM  
Asphalt?

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"A temporary toll road made of rolled chippings ..."
 
2014-08-03 11:56:14 AM  

CruJones: I've never seen retrospectively used in place of retroactively, is that a cromulent usage?



It's a legal term so yes is the correct usage. Our planning (zoning in American English) laws allow for you to apply after the fact in case of honest mistakes. The problem with applying for permission retrospectively is that if you don't get permission you have to undo what you did. For a road that's just some gravel and tarmac it's not an issue but if you built a house then you must tear it down.
 
2014-08-03 07:32:06 PM  

MyRandomName: Anybody find it odd a private citizen can build a road mich faster than government... I wonder why...


That's the story behind the Paul Ricard F1 track. Ricard wanted to prove to the French government how quickly and cheaply you could build a modern wide highway, so he built a racetrack with the longest straight in F1.
 
2014-08-03 10:00:29 PM  
WTH is a "rolled chipping"? Is it a leftover snack food?
 
2014-08-03 11:14:19 PM  

brachiopod: WTH is a "rolled chipping"? Is it a leftover snack food?


It's what we call tar and chip in the US.
 
2014-08-04 03:49:59 AM  

brachiopod: WTH is a "rolled chipping"? Is it a leftover snack food?


My guess is crushed rock that's been worked over with a roller.
 
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