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(ESPN FC)   A crowd of 109,318 watched Manchester United defeat Real Madrid at Michigan Stadium on Saturday, setting a record for the most fans to see a soccer game in the United States   (espnfc.us ) divider line
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2014-08-02 08:39:08 PM  
So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?
 
2014-08-02 09:08:48 PM  
See? That just proves immigration is out of control
 
2014-08-02 09:13:46 PM  

dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?


It was nationally broadcast. The place was packed and looked like a lot of fun.

The game was rather meaningless but the fans were behaving as though this was a world cup final.
 
2014-08-02 09:45:30 PM  
I can't believe every US soccer fan made the trek to Michigan.
 
2014-08-02 11:44:45 PM  
farking libruls....
 
2014-08-02 11:49:46 PM  

dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?


I believe it was on Fox Sports 1.

So, no.
 
2014-08-03 12:04:25 AM  

IlGreven: dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?

I believe it was on Fox Sports 1.

So, no.


Yankees/Sox was on FS1. This match was on the mothership.
 
2014-08-03 12:11:00 AM  
There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.
 
2014-08-03 12:26:16 AM  

iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.


Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.
 
2014-08-03 12:36:24 AM  
I love their fight song.

My baby takes the morning train...
He works from nine to five and then...
He takes another home again...
To find me waiting for him...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN239G6aJZo
 
2014-08-03 12:40:51 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.


Personally, I find soccer to be amazingly boring, but I understand it is a growing sport here and having 2 of the best teams in the world play an exhibition match is good for the 'industry'.

That being said, it won't represent nearly the quality of play US fans could expect to see, on a regular basis, for a long while. So, it's only natural that it would draw a huge crowd.
 
2014-08-03 12:42:11 AM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.




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2014-08-03 12:58:06 AM  
Is that a cumulative total?
 
2014-08-03 01:40:25 AM  
How much were the tickets? U2 sold tickets at $5 to fill Sun Devil Stadium to film "Rattle and Hum". It worked.
 
2014-08-03 01:55:14 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?

It was nationally broadcast. The place was packed and looked like a lot of fun.

The game was rather meaningless but the fans were behaving as though this was a world cup final.


Was a blast. Everyone was chill and having a good time, and the game was good even if it didn't matter.

BretMavrik: How much were the tickets? U2 sold tickets at $5 to fill Sun Devil Stadium to film "Rattle and Hum". It worked.


Face value was like $45 and up, but the UofM athletic department were a bunch of dickholes that sold most of the tickets in big batches (up to 50) on the first day of sales, so most people had to buy them off re-sellers for way over that. Not that I'm bitter about that...
 
2014-08-03 02:11:46 AM  

eas81: HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.

For $20 you can own a piece of MAN U.

enabling us to develop what we believe is one of the world's leading sports brands and a global community of 659 million followers

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/manu#ixzz39IiTWkiB


Lets see. If the world has 6 billion people and 659 million are Man U supporters that means that about one in 9 people are man ufans. Even in India and china and canada.
Heres where they double down on big fan numbers:


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My calculater tells me that 3 billion people divided by 54 games is 55,555,555 and a half people on average watch each Man U game


Heres  something that ManU wont mention except when trying to sell stock.



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also they are kinda facebook hoorish



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And despite wanting their stock traded in US markets they are ridiculously honest about being both untouchable by US jurisdiction should anny irregularity arise, but they are also a Caymen island tax dodge. That is very refreshing honesty in stock trading circles.

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2014-08-03 06:27:35 AM  
109K is a hell of a big crowd for soccer in any country. I thought it might be close to the record, but the internet says that 173K (officially) or thousands more than that (unofficially) or literally brazilians of people (farkly) packed in to watch Brazil lose at home in the 1950 World Cup.
 
2014-08-03 08:12:28 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: See? That just proves immigration is out of control


If anybody stuck around to see the post-game wrapup the commentators were gushing about how soccer has now made it in the US and the US fans understand and love the game.  Behind the were about 5000 people who came out of the stadium.  Most of them were waving flags from other countries.  In the front row was Lebanon, Turkey,....and Palestine.

Thanks Obama.
 
2014-08-03 08:17:34 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: 109K is a hell of a big crowd for soccer in any country. I thought it might be close to the record, but the internet says that 173K (officially) or thousands more than that (unofficially) or literally brazilians of people (farkly) packed in to watch Brazil lose at home in the 1950 World Cup.


I doubt we'll ever see anything close to that Brazil record. In the old days, before stadiums were all-seaters and crowd safety was taken less seriously, (and before TV was routinely an option for seeing the game, I guess), crowds were often much bigger.

The old Wembley used to hold 100,000 and was routinely at capacity for cup finals or England matches. Hampden Park was even bigger, between the Wars it had a nominal capacity of 150,000. The official attendance of 149,415, for a Scotland vs. England game in 1937, apparently is a European record. Both are significantly smaller now.

So yeah, for a modern-era game, in a country with proper safety laws, that's a huge crowd by any standard.

And TIL that there's half a dozen more US college football stadiums over 100,000 capacity, which is pretty amazing. AFAIK, no European soccer team has a stadium that large.
 
2014-08-03 08:33:37 AM  

czetie: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: 109K is a hell of a big crowd for soccer in any country. I thought it might be close to the record, but the internet says that 173K (officially) or thousands more than that (unofficially) or literally brazilians of people (farkly) packed in to watch Brazil lose at home in the 1950 World Cup.

I doubt we'll ever see anything close to that Brazil record. In the old days, before stadiums were all-seaters and crowd safety was taken less seriously, (and before TV was routinely an option for seeing the game, I guess), crowds were often much bigger.

The old Wembley used to hold 100,000 and was routinely at capacity for cup finals or England matches. Hampden Park was even bigger, between the Wars it had a nominal capacity of 150,000. The official attendance of 149,415, for a Scotland vs. England game in 1937, apparently is a European record. Both are significantly smaller now.

So yeah, for a modern-era game, in a country with proper safety laws, that's a huge crowd by any standard.

And TIL that there's half a dozen more US college football stadiums over 100,000 capacity, which is pretty amazing. AFAIK, no European soccer team has a stadium that large.


Part of the problem with making a stadium that size for footie is the fact that many of the big-name stadia are in the most packed parts of the city. The Bernabeu's in the middle of downtown Madrid.
 
2014-08-03 08:33:50 AM  
I believe the Big House now has the record for largest attendance at a Football game, the other Football game and an NHL game in the United States.
 
2014-08-03 08:38:07 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: MaudlinMutantMollusk: See? That just proves immigration is out of control

If anybody stuck around to see the post-game wrapup the commentators were gushing about how soccer has now made it in the US and the US fans understand and love the game.  Behind the were about 5000 people who came out of the stadium.  Most of them were waving flags from other countries.  In the front row was Lebanon, Turkey,....and Palestine.

Thanks Obama.


Could the burgeoning interest in soccer be a reaction by urban sports fans to redneck sports like NASCAR, hockey, and MMA/UFC, as well as the increasingly thuggish nature of football?

They've been playing these exhibition games all over the country this summer.  No doubt cities that dumped hundreds of millions into football-only stadiums will be glad to have a spring/summer sport available to get some use out of them.  That would also prevent the NFL from enacting a 6 month season like baseball.
 
2014-08-03 09:14:35 AM  

Great_Milenko: The Googles Do Nothing: MaudlinMutantMollusk: See? That just proves immigration is out of control

If anybody stuck around to see the post-game wrapup the commentators were gushing about how soccer has now made it in the US and the US fans understand and love the game.  Behind the were about 5000 people who came out of the stadium.  Most of them were waving flags from other countries.  In the front row was Lebanon, Turkey,....and Palestine.

Thanks Obama.

Could the burgeoning interest in soccer be a reaction by urban sports fans to redneck sports like NASCAR, hockey, and MMA/UFC, as well as the increasingly thuggish nature of football?

They've been playing these exhibition games all over the country this summer.  No doubt cities that dumped hundreds of millions into football-only stadiums will be glad to have a spring/summer sport available to get some use out of them.  That would also prevent the NFL from enacting a 6 month season like baseball.


The NFL already has a 12 month season. Games aren't being played, but they make sure free agency, the draft, training camps are timed in a way in which they are always getting press.
 
2014-08-03 09:22:19 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Most of them were waving flags from other countries. In the front row was Lebanon, Turkey,....and Palestine.


Never judge a crowd by the people who get behind the postgame show camera.
 
2014-08-03 09:51:42 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: Part of the problem with making a stadium that size for footie is the fact that many of the big-name stadia are in the most packed parts of the city. The Bernabeu's in the middle of downtown Madrid.


Also the huge stadia in the US are open air bowls while European stadiums are all covered stands. It's cheaper and easier to make a bowl style stadium than a covered one.

Plus yes most are right in the middle of old cities and town that make extending them a real issue along with traffic.
 
2014-08-03 10:11:35 AM  

Gosling: The Googles Do Nothing: Most of them were waving flags from other countries. In the front row was Lebanon, Turkey,....and Palestine.

Never judge a crowd by the people who get behind the postgame show camera.


I was at the game and can confirm that there were a lot of people from outside the US.  I saw a guy with a sign claiming he'd flown in from Dubai to see the game.  The entire row of people behind me said they'd come up from Mexico.  It's anecdotal, but it sure seemed like a very different "crowd" than the usual football Saturday.

CrazyWhiteBoy311: Was a blast. Everyone was chill and having a good time, and the game was good even if it didn't matter.


I was surprised to read in the paper today that the number of fans who were kicked out of the stadium was slightly lower than the average for a college football game.  In my (limited) field of view, I saw two people get escorted out by security, and I'd never personally witnessed anyone getting kicked out of the Big House before (and I've been going to games since the 90s).  I must have been in a rowdier-than-average section.

/anyway, it was fun to legally buy booze there, since I'll never be able to do that again
//even if they were charging $10 for a foamy pour
 
2014-08-03 10:18:20 AM  
I briefly caught the end of the Manchester City v Roma match, which is part of this money making tour they do every year in the US and Asia. Half full stadium, very few supporters in City or Roma gear (mostly national team shirts). I went online to look up tickets for the next one and available tickets were $145 and up. Obviously this one was different.

There are better crowds in the Champions League/Europa League qualifying rounds taking place now, which most people are unaware of. And I'd bet the comment up thread about Columbus/Colorado is true as well. Games which mean something bring out better crowds, and you don't necessarily need more fans to make a great atmosphere (but it helps).

These money games look to have the same feel as the NHL & NFL games in Europe. They charge a boatload for tickets, and you wear "your" team's jersey anyway because you didn't have a say in who would be playing. I've been lucky enough to get free tickets to the NHL in Europe and I can't see myself paying for future games. It was actually better when the Rangers played a local team, because then at least one side is vocal.
 
2014-08-03 10:20:58 AM  

LarryDan43: The NFL already has a 12 month season. Games aren't being played, but they make sure free agency, the draft, training camps are timed in a way in which they are always getting press.


I hope this was a joke. That's not a season.
 
2014-08-03 10:28:46 AM  

dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?


Man U has a pretty big following in the States.  I know the bar up the street plays all their games and is packed when they do.  I know they have a lot more fans than oh, just as an example, NFL Europa did.
 
2014-08-03 11:43:21 AM  

star_topology: IlGreven: dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?

I believe it was on Fox Sports 1.

So, no.

Yankees/Sox was on FS1. This match was on the mothership.


Yet take away the Spanish stations and the ratings still suck
 
2014-08-03 11:46:04 AM  

iron_city_ap: HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.

Personally, I find soccer to be amazingly boring, but I understand it is a growing sport here and having 2 of the best teams in the world play an exhibition match is good for the 'industry'.

That being said, it won't represent nearly the quality of play US fans could expect to see, on a regular basis, for a long while. So, it's only natural that it would draw a huge crowd.


Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.
 
2014-08-03 11:46:08 AM  
So with the the television ratings, that brings the total U.S. viewership to... just over 110,000!
 
2014-08-03 11:48:29 AM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: I believe the Big House now has the record for largest attendance at a Football game, the other Football game and an NHL game in the United States.


There is only one football the other is soccer which the lower class started using when their governing bodies didn't want the NFL to have global rights to the term 'football'.
 
2014-08-03 12:09:40 PM  

steamingpile: iron_city_ap: HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.

Personally, I find soccer to be amazingly boring, but I understand it is a growing sport here and having 2 of the best teams in the world play an exhibition match is good for the 'industry'.

That being said, it won't represent nearly the quality of play US fans could expect to see, on a regular basis, for a long while. So, it's only natural that it would draw a huge crowd.

Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.


In the sense that the most popular sport in the world can be described as a "niche sport".
 
2014-08-03 12:12:25 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: 109K is a hell of a big crowd for soccer in any country. I thought it might be close to the record, but the internet says that 173K (officially) or thousands more than that (unofficially) or literally brazilians of people (farkly) packed in to watch Brazil lose at home in the 1950 World Cup.


Those records won't ever be broken, because of regulations.
 
2014-08-03 12:14:30 PM  
steamingpile:

Yet take away the Spanish stations and the ratings still suck

The Republican Party strategy of dealing with the shifting demographics in America, ladies and gentlemen!  Denial, denial, blow a dog whistle, denial!
 
2014-08-03 12:16:16 PM  
steamingpile:

Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.

The most popular sports in America in 1954, just two generations ago:

Baseball, boxing and horse racing.
 
2014-08-03 12:44:42 PM  

steamingpile: IamKaiserSoze!!!: I believe the Big House now has the record for largest attendance at a Football game, the other Football game and an NHL game in the United States.

There is only one football the other is soccer which the lower class started using when their governing bodies didn't want the NFL to have global rights to the term 'football'.


You do know there are at least six different types of football and all of them are as old if not older than American football?

Of course you didn't. You watch an offshoot of Rugby football and call it the one true way while ignoring history.
 
2014-08-03 01:14:16 PM  

dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?


You loser, don't you have anything better to do than to threadshiat EVERY GODDAMNED SOCCER THREAD?

WE GET IT, YOU DON'T LIKE SOCCER!

Now go DIAF.
 
2014-08-03 01:50:56 PM  

czetie: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: 109K is a hell of a big crowd for soccer in any country. I thought it might be close to the record, but the internet says that 173K (officially) or thousands more than that (unofficially) or literally brazilians of people (farkly) packed in to watch Brazil lose at home in the 1950 World Cup.

I doubt we'll ever see anything close to that Brazil record. In the old days, before stadiums were all-seaters and crowd safety was taken less seriously, (and before TV was routinely an option for seeing the game, I guess), crowds were often much bigger.

The old Wembley used to hold 100,000 and was routinely at capacity for cup finals or England matches. Hampden Park was even bigger, between the Wars it had a nominal capacity of 150,000. The official attendance of 149,415, for a Scotland vs. England game in 1937, apparently is a European record. Both are significantly smaller now.

So yeah, for a modern-era game, in a country with proper safety laws, that's a huge crowd by any standard.

And TIL that there's half a dozen more US college football stadiums over 100,000 capacity, which is pretty amazing. AFAIK, no European soccer team has a stadium that large.


Not at the moment, although Barca are going to renovate the Nou Camp to seat something close to 105,000.
 
2014-08-03 01:57:23 PM  

mainstreet62: dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?

You loser, don't you have anything better to do than to threadshiat EVERY GODDAMNED SOCCER THREAD?

WE GET IT, YOU DON'T LIKE SOCCER!

Now go DIAF.


There are certain people who do that in every football thread. I dunno if they're just super-insecure about people who like things they don't like, or they're attempting to troll, but they've made up their minds, and their only contribution is threadshiatting.

Just put them on ignore, makes these threads readable.
 
2014-08-03 02:46:53 PM  

star_topology: IlGreven: dookdookdook: So did they bother putting it on TV, or did they air poker reruns instead to protect the ratings?

I believe it was on Fox Sports 1.

So, no.

Yankees/Sox was on FS1. This match was on the mothership.


So, I reiterate, no.
 
2014-08-03 03:57:34 PM  

steamingpile: Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.


Average attendance of the Big 4 + soccer in 2013
NFL: 68,397
MLB: 30,504
MLS: 18,594
NHL: 17,721
NBA: 17,407

niche indeed.
 
2014-08-03 04:24:04 PM  
Niche sport NASCAR average attendance 97,000 but down from 129000 in 2005
 
2014-08-03 04:29:05 PM  
And, starting in September, a similar number will enter Michigan Stadium to see the Wolverines
repeat Real Madrid's performance each week (especially versus the Buckeyes).
 
2014-08-03 05:19:47 PM  
our country has gone to the pantywaists
 
2014-08-03 05:36:35 PM  

jso2897: steamingpile: iron_city_ap: HideAndGoFarkYourself: iron_city_ap: There is a big difference between Man U/ R Madrid playing an exhibition game and Columbus/ Colorado playing a late season match.

Agreed.  United is, by far, the most supported club world wide, and Real Madrid is probably #2, if not, they're #3 depending on where Barcelona falls.

Personally, I find soccer to be amazingly boring, but I understand it is a growing sport here and having 2 of the best teams in the world play an exhibition match is good for the 'industry'.

That being said, it won't represent nearly the quality of play US fans could expect to see, on a regular basis, for a long while. So, it's only natural that it would draw a huge crowd.

Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.

In the sense that the most popular sport in the world can be described as a "niche sport".


We were talking about the USA, try and keep up.
 
2014-08-03 05:41:25 PM  

OrangeFree: steamingpile: Growing is a relative term, its trendy right now but that's about it, people ignore that soccer was huge in the 70s as well but then died out. It will always be a niche sport.

Average attendance of the Big 4 + soccer in 2013
NFL: 68,397
MLB: 30,504
MLS: 18,594
NHL: 17,721
NBA: 17,407

niche indeed.


Yes and you're counting all the teams who regularly sell out and ignoring the ones who barely have any in the stands.

Also those are tiny stadiums since under 20k is nothing for outdoor sports.

And yes until it breaks a 1.0 nationally in the ratings on a regular basis they will be a niche sport. That's impossible since nobody broadcasts MLS games nationally.
 
2014-08-03 05:48:25 PM  

brap: I know they have a lot more fans than oh, just as an example, NFL Europa did.


That's the standard you're holding yourself to?


mainstreet62:You loser, don't you have anything better to do than to threadshiat EVERY GODDAMNED SOCCER THREAD?

What can I say? I'm a hater, I gotta hate.
 
2014-08-03 05:50:03 PM  
Oh and get back to us when MLS games have more viewers than WNBA games, the league that's been on death watch and would have been there already if not for NBA support.
 
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