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2014-08-02 01:51:16 PM  
"I am proud we will be able to continue to provide our Cast an industry-leading employment package that reflects the important role they play in our guests' most special memories," said George A. Kalogridis, president of Walt Disney World Resort, in a written statement.

Yeah. I'm going to need you to go ahead and climb to the top of Cinderella's Castle and jump the fark off. If you land onto the spires of Space Mountain, you get an extra 50 cents.
 
2014-08-02 02:38:49 PM  
$10/hour is pathetic.
 
2014-08-02 02:59:47 PM  
I bet the execs were all high fiving each other about how generous they are.
 
2014-08-02 03:03:20 PM  
They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.
 
2014-08-02 05:23:59 PM  

ms_lara_croft: They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.


While I agree that $8.03 is pathetic, it is ABOVE federal minimum wage (barely) and will grow faster than inflation for 3 years guaranteed. You cannot say the same for many other jobs, my previous one included. Granted that was from a much higher salary level, but I don't get *any* guaranteed raises *ever* as most employees.

Also, what talents or education do you need to be a disney employee that qualify you for money? Hell even if you are ugly as a baby giraffe you can wear a costume and dance around like you are the prettiest goofy ever.*

*Does not apply to the smokin' hot princesses
 
2014-08-02 05:27:21 PM  
That minimum is apparently for full-time employees.  Anyone know how many of those subject employees are full-time?
 
2014-08-02 05:27:39 PM  
Pretty much sucks for the skilled labor though, being denied annual percentage wages (based on a regular increase, or if COLA, I don't know). I know a guy who's a Disney Imagineer. I'll have to ask him.
 
2014-08-02 05:30:32 PM  
Christ, do not read the article comments, you'll lose all hope for our race.
 
2014-08-02 05:31:03 PM  

tiiger: Christ, do not read the article comments, you'll lose all hope for our race.


Yeah, too late. :/
 
2014-08-02 05:31:15 PM  
$10.00/hr. In Florida or California. Means you can upgrade your tent, in 3-6 months.
 
2014-08-02 05:31:59 PM  
Yeah I can understand why the hourly workers who werent making the minimum would be pissed that their wages only went up fifty cents while their minimum co workers went up almost $2.

/everyones hourly wages should move up equally imo if you are going to do it.
 
2014-08-02 05:35:06 PM  

ColonelCathcart: *Does not apply to the smokin' hot princesses


What about the Dwarves? How much do they get?
 
2014-08-02 05:36:23 PM  
$10 an hour to get heatstroke and barf in the head of your costume? Spiffy.
 
2014-08-02 05:36:37 PM  

ColonelCathcart: ms_lara_croft: They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.

While I agree that $8.03 is pathetic, it is ABOVE federal minimum wage (barely) and will grow faster than inflation for 3 years guaranteed. You cannot say the same for many other jobs, my previous one included. Granted that was from a much higher salary level, but I don't get *any* guaranteed raises *ever* as most employees.

Also, what talents or education do you need to be a disney employee that qualify you for money? Hell even if you are ugly as a baby giraffe you can wear a costume and dance around like you are the prettiest goofy ever.*

*Does not apply to the smokin' hot princesses


Nothing really. Can you put up with jackass kids tugging at you and punching you in the nuts in the 95 degree florida heat in July? Yeah? Youre hired!
 
2014-08-02 05:36:57 PM  
I might of missed it in the article. Did they mention what union dues work out to as a percentage of that wage? It seems like they're getting screwed if they have to pay dues and still get squat for pay. My company just raised our minimum wage to $12.50 with a 15% differential if you work night shift, but we don't have a union taking a cut of it.
 
2014-08-02 05:37:36 PM  

ColonelCathcart: Also, what talents or education do you need to be a disney employee that qualify you for money? Hell even if you are ugly as a baby giraffe you can wear a costume and dance around like you are the prettiest goofy ever.*


Well hazard pay for one thing. Unless you want to put on a 20 lb roach infested furry costume and dance around with screaming kids in 100 degree heat for an hour at a time. Plus I can't imagine how long it would take to even get into work, the park is in the center of its own country.
 
2014-08-02 05:40:08 PM  
This is MINIMUM pay, trust me, the skilled people get more.  Disney actually has some rather decent labor practices.  You know how some places are moving workers to part time to avoid having to pay insurance under Obamacare?

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/02/2716951/disney-world-obam ac are-promote-full-time/
 
2014-08-02 05:42:54 PM  
I don't think this covers the costumed workers.

The workers covered include janitors, housekeepers and bus drivers.

So, mostly those working the lodging it seems.
 
2014-08-02 05:43:40 PM  

Mugato: Plus I can't imagine how long it would take to even get into work, the park is in the center of its own country.


From the far south edge of property (Hwy 192 area) to the Magic Kingdom cast member lot, it takes about 10-15 minutes.
 
2014-08-02 05:44:45 PM  
Relax people, it's just the minimum. I'm sure people that are specialized like chefs and characters get more money. Also, the Disney benefits package is pretty impressive as a whole.
 
2014-08-02 05:46:55 PM  

ColonelCathcart: ms_lara_croft: They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.

While I agree that $8.03 is pathetic, it is ABOVE federal minimum wage (barely) and will grow faster than inflation for 3 years guaranteed. You cannot say the same for many other jobs, my previous one included. Granted that was from a much higher salary level, but I don't get *any* guaranteed raises *ever* as most employees.

Also, what talents or education do you need to be a disney employee that qualify you for money? Hell even if you are ugly as a baby giraffe you can wear a costume and dance around like you are the prettiest goofy ever.*

*Does not apply to the smokin' hot princesses


you are thinking too low on the totem there. In a place like that you are starting with cashiers, ticket takers, janitorial staff, food service, be it front of the house or back of the house. it's all the service type stuff that only really needs to be "unskilled" part time labor. .
I imagined that they don't just plop anybody into a fur suit to go dance with the kiddies, but that doesnt need to be full time or skilled either, but there is certainly training and performing going on, even in the fur suits, the live faces on the princesses are an entire different tier

Then you move along to ride operators, ride staff,
who do you think maintains all that crap anyways? elves? no.. there is a full time staff of folks running around keeping the magic running, even at the rinkydink amusement park up the road from me, maintence is full time and all year.  electritions, plumbers, IT, automation techs, hydrolic and pnuematic techs, PLC programers. and the guy who changes the light bulbs.

you have a full horticulteral staff maintaing all the green zones, rotating out floral displays in the cover of night.

carpenters and wood rites. jouneymen.

management staff for everthing envolved.

then you have all the hotel systems. that's hospitality management 101 right there, and yes, you can get a degree in hospitality management, even more specialized, you can get a degree in amusement park management.

Places like Disney are cities upon themselves. They have all types of tiers of labor and skills. from the base level worker drones to the top level management.
 
2014-08-02 05:48:12 PM  

The DBS: I might of missed it in the article. Did they mention what union dues work out to as a percentage of that wage? It seems like they're getting screwed if they have to pay dues and still get squat for pay. My company just raised our minimum wage to $12.50 with a 15% differential if you work night shift, but we don't have a union taking a cut of it.


15% skew? niiice.  I only get an extra 35 cents an hour for working 3rd shift.
 
2014-08-02 05:49:43 PM  

DrunkWithImpotence: This is MINIMUM pay, trust me, the skilled people get more.  Disney actually has some rather decent labor practices.  You know how some places are moving workers to part time to avoid having to pay insurance under Obamacare?

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/02/2716951/disney-world-obam ac are-promote-full-time/


They were one of the first companies to extend same sex couples benefits iirc. DNRTL
 
2014-08-02 05:51:21 PM  
The part people should be happy about is that the business itself is raising their minimum wage.  But the outrage is hilarious.  Far better they hold out for a federal/state mandate I guess.
 
2014-08-02 05:58:22 PM  
Hate all you want.  I've worked at Disneyland twice in different jobs at different times in my life.  Both times they were great to work for.  The first time I had a job that didn't pay all that well but it didn't take much skill and it was part time (security).  They were very flexible with my schedule and the managers were all really cool though.

The second time I made good money (and the insurance and other benefits were out. of. control. awesome.) but working graveyard was tough on my family (horticulture).

They treat their employees really well.
 
2014-08-02 06:00:08 PM  

QifutuWahuta: The DBS: I might of missed it in the article. Did they mention what union dues work out to as a percentage of that wage? It seems like they're getting screwed if they have to pay dues and still get squat for pay. My company just raised our minimum wage to $12.50 with a 15% differential if you work night shift, but we don't have a union taking a cut of it.

15% skew? niiice.  I only get an extra 35 cents an hour for working 3rd shift.


really?  From my experience, third and fourth shift manufacturing was the entry level tier, and payed the least
 
2014-08-02 06:00:54 PM  

ginandbacon: $10/hour is pathetic.


The shiat jobs at amusement parks are traditionally held by teenagers living with their parents.  $10 an hour is a good wage if you fit that description.

I knew several people who worked at the local amusement park in high school and they loved getting paid to do next to nothing.  I also knew kids who worked as bag boys at the local supermarkets.  How much do you think these people are worth?

If you want to make a career out of strapping people in roller coasters or dressing up as Mickey Mouse, don't expect to ever do anything but struggle with your finances.
 
2014-08-02 06:19:14 PM  

Billy Liar: That minimum is apparently for full-time employees.  Anyone know how many of those subject employees are full-time?


You could, oh I don't know, read the article.
 
2014-08-02 06:22:16 PM  
This thread needs Gyrfalcon. As a former Disneyland employee, I'm sure she'd have an interesting take on it.

/yeah, I know this is about Floriduh, but still.
 
2014-08-02 06:22:23 PM  

fusillade762: What about the Dwarves? How much do they get?


They get ménage à huit.
 
2014-08-02 06:28:09 PM  

tiiger: Christ, do not read the article comments, you'll lose all hope for our race.


Thanks had to go check them out.  Thought they were actually pretty mild compared to most websites.  This is my favorite though:

"Rank 81
So you get $10/hour, health benefits and a pension plan for scrapping bubble gum off the sidewalk at Downtown Disney....and we wonder if we're heading for socialism. These jobs were not meant to be lifetime careers folks. They are what you do when a) you're already retired, or, b) training yourself for a real career."


Isn't Disney an example of just about the most capitalist thing out there?  They offer nothing of substance other than pure consumption and people are willing to pay obscene amounts of money for it and so in order to get better than average help in a service oriented state and keep quality high, Disney gives them better working conditions, pay, and benefits than most.  Or did I miss socialism 101 in college?
 
2014-08-02 06:41:57 PM  
Unions are bad because a multi-billion dollar corporation vs. a single person is an even playing field ...

Don't like it? Go lobby a Congressman. Works for them.
 
2014-08-02 06:43:53 PM  
Orlando is relatively a cheap place to live.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/city_result.jsp?country=United+ St ates&city=Orlando%2C+FL
A 3 bedroom apartment for 1200, yes please.
 
2014-08-02 06:46:27 PM  

DrSansabeltNoShiatSlacks: $10.00/hr. In Florida or California. Means you can upgrade your tent, in 3-6 months.


Some of the workers live in the rv park down the street until is was closed by the city. Some now live in the roach motels on katrella and on harbor. With the whores and meth heads, Micky the Rat way to go buddy
 
2014-08-02 06:47:14 PM  
This may be off topic and irrelevant but Disney kind of sucks compared to Universal Studios now. I'm sure Disney still makes more money than Universal but having just been to the Harry Potter Land, as someone who isn't even a Harry Potter fan, I can say Disney had better step up their game if they're going to make a Star Wars land that can compete.

They had to close off Harry Potter land because of capacity, I've never seen that before at Disney. And there was like a half hour line to buy Harry Potter wands, like these little $45 plastic twigs.

And Universal Halloween Horror Nights is awesome.
 
2014-08-02 06:49:40 PM  

brandent: tiiger: Christ, do not read the article comments, you'll lose all hope for our race.

Thanks had to go check them out.  Thought they were actually pretty mild compared to most websites.  This is my favorite though:

"Rank 81
So you get $10/hour, health benefits and a pension plan for scrapping bubble gum off the sidewalk at Downtown Disney....and we wonder if we're heading for socialism. These jobs were not meant to be lifetime careers folks. They are what you do when a) you're already retired, or, b) training yourself for a real career."


Isn't Disney an example of just about the most capitalist thing out there?  They offer nothing of substance other than pure consumption and people are willing to pay obscene amounts of money for it and so in order to get better than average help in a service oriented state and keep quality high, Disney gives them better working conditions, pay, and benefits than most.  Or did I miss socialism 101 in college?


yes, that poster missed the point.
capitalism is about the needs of the few, and socialism is about the needs of the many. you need both of the systems working together to keep it all running.
just like I stated in upwards post, there are many jobs at Disney to be had and filled by everything from basic no/low skilled service all the way up to highly skilled and very specialized.

thing is.. you don't SEE those people.. you only really see the people that are the service people, and a lot of people are simply too ignorant, or arrogant to understand that what is usually in front of your face is not the big picture. the not seeing the forest from the trees aspect.

the trees are the people at the cashier stand, the farkers strapping you into the roller coaster, the farkers with the little brooms and dust pans. the bell hops, the maids turning over the rooms. etc The forest is the army of folks making sure the trees can do thier jobs, and the rest of your experience is seamless and with out conflict or obstruction.

that people far and wide think the average worker in a place like that is on par with a wallmart greeter is for one thing jarring, and on the other end jarring to consider that people think these places really do run on unicorn farts.
 
2014-08-02 06:54:39 PM  

ms_lara_croft: They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.


yeah, but, it's 50 cent AN HOUR

EACH AND EVERY HOUR
 
2014-08-02 07:25:53 PM  

assburp: ms_lara_croft: They're only getting $8.03 now? And what's with the 3 cents?

And extra 50 cents every year for three years. Wow, what generosity.

yeah, but, it's 50 cent AN HOUR

EACH AND EVERY HOUR


THAT'S ENOUGH FOR A EXTRA CAN OF SODA EVERY DAY (at disney prices)
 
2014-08-02 07:52:33 PM  
The last thing I need is a Snow White making enough money to not give serious consideration to my Pirate of the Utilidor ride.
 
2014-08-02 08:15:01 PM  

Mugato: They had to close off Harry Potter land because of capacity, I've never seen that before at Disney.


There are a few days each year (Christmas, Fourth of July, etc.) where the entire Magic Kingdom turns people away due to capacity issues.  On those days the line of traffic waiting to go through the toll plaza on World Drive can be close to a mile long.

They do it in a phased approach - first, those holding regular day tickets will be turned away, then eventually annual passholders, and finally resort guests staying at Disney hotels if it gets too full.  You absolutely don't want to be in the park on one of those days.
 
2014-08-02 08:36:14 PM  

The DBS: Did they mention what union dues work out to as a percentage of that wage? It seems like they're getting screwed if they have to pay dues and still get squat for pay. My company just raised our minimum wage to $12.50 with a 15% differential if you work night shift, but we don't have a union taking a cut of it.


They didn't mention it in the article that I saw, but IIRC, as of a couple of years ago when I last had any experience with it, the union took something like $8.00/week for dues for a new employee in my area.  Not a lot of money, but then Disney unions don't really do a lot either.  I think it's great the newer employees are getting a pay bump, but my experience was that the union dealt by and large with fighting for employees that had legitimate actions brought against them by management, and didn't do squat for anyone that wasn't a full-time employee.

If anyone's interested, the terms of the new full-time contract that was ratified can be found here: http://www.uniteherelocal362.org/wdw-ft/, and the terms for part-timers is available at the same site.  The 2010 contract that's in force currently is here: http://www.uniteherelocal362.org/wp-content/uploads/Final-FT-STCU.pdf .  (120+ pages of rather dry reading)
 
2014-08-02 08:52:28 PM  

cgremlin: Mugato: They had to close off Harry Potter land because of capacity, I've never seen that before at Disney.

There are a few days each year (Christmas, Fourth of July, etc.) where the entire Magic Kingdom turns people away due to capacity issues.  On those days the line of traffic waiting to go through the toll plaza on World Drive can be close to a mile long.

They do it in a phased approach - first, those holding regular day tickets will be turned away, then eventually annual passholders, and finally resort guests staying at Disney hotels if it gets too full.  You absolutely don't want to be in the park on one of those days.


Yeah, this was on a Wednesday in February. It was like the rise of the Berlin wall. I wish Disney the best, I'm a Star Wars guy and don't really care about Harry Potter. I hope Disney can rise to the challenge. They're completing an Avatar land that I doubt anyone gives a shiat about so whatever.
 
2014-08-02 09:24:09 PM  

Mugato: This may be off topic and irrelevant but Disney kind of sucks compared to Universal Studios now. I'm sure Disney still makes more money than Universal but having just been to the Harry Potter Land, as someone who isn't even a Harry Potter fan, I can say Disney had better step up their game if they're going to make a Star Wars land that can compete.

They had to close off Harry Potter land because of capacity, I've never seen that before at Disney. And there was like a half hour line to buy Harry Potter wands, like these little $45 plastic twigs.

And Universal Halloween Horror Nights is awesome.


Two different age groups really. Disney caters to kids to pre-teens with stuff thrown in for other age groups, Universal to teens on up, with small areas for the little ones. Which is how they coexist.

But Disney routinely has to shut down access to entire parks due to capacity during peak times of year. Not just areas, all of Magic Kingdom.
 
2014-08-02 09:46:49 PM  

Mugato: cgremlin: Mugato: They had to close off Harry Potter land because of capacity, I've never seen that before at Disney.

There are a few days each year (Christmas, Fourth of July, etc.) where the entire Magic Kingdom turns people away due to capacity issues.  On those days the line of traffic waiting to go through the toll plaza on World Drive can be close to a mile long.

They do it in a phased approach - first, those holding regular day tickets will be turned away, then eventually annual passholders, and finally resort guests staying at Disney hotels if it gets too full.  You absolutely don't want to be in the park on one of those days.

Yeah, this was on a Wednesday in February. It was like the rise of the Berlin wall. I wish Disney the best, I'm a Star Wars guy and don't really care about Harry Potter. I hope Disney can rise to the challenge. They're completing an Avatar land that I doubt anyone gives a shiat about so whatever.


They sure bet on the wrong horse when they picked up that intellectual property (Avatar). Disney's been investing heavily on back end things... while I know the My Magic + stuff is the source of much cursing for many Disney fans, it's made actual visits to the resort area much more pleasant. Their website and reservation system was horribly antiquated; now I can change reservations on the fly on my smartphone. Much easier.

They are in need of some major park investment- Hollywood Studios needs MOAR Star Wars, Epcot Future World needs an overhaul, that kind of thing. But New Fantasyland, although it isn't much for thrill ride seekers, is a hit with the kiddies. Agree Disney needs to up their game, but Universal, while they've been on a hit streak lately, it wasn't that long ago when they were crap by comparison. Five years can mean a lot.
 
2014-08-02 09:47:56 PM  

Billy Liar: That minimum is apparently for full-time employees.  Anyone know how many of those subject employees are full-time?


I predict the number of full-time employees is about to decline significantly.
 
2014-08-02 09:56:46 PM  

Boo_Guy: $10 an hour to get heatstroke and barf in the head of your costume? Spiffy.


Been there, done that.

Didn't barf tho'.
 
2014-08-02 10:10:19 PM  

akula: They sure bet on the wrong horse when they picked up that intellectual property (Avatar). Disney's been investing heavily on back end things... while I know the My Magic + stuff is the source of much cursing for many Disney fans, it's made actual visits to the resort area much more pleasant. Their website and reservation system was horribly antiquated; now I can change reservations on the fly on my smartphone. Much easier.


I take my nieces to Disney sometimes, and the fast pass plus thing sort of sucks. You have to make "reservations" for a ride like days in advance, which is fine but I don't think they took into account that people make reservations and just don't go, screwing everything up.

Avatar...I realize that it's the biggest grossing film (not counting for inflation) but is anyone really foaming at the mouth for an Avatar Land? They should have gone full on Star Wars.
 
2014-08-02 10:44:59 PM  

fusillade762: ColonelCathcart: *Does not apply to the smokin' hot princesses

What about the Dwarves? How much do they get?


Some people pay even more for that. Double if you are L-O-L-A....loooolllllaaaa
 
2014-08-02 10:57:19 PM  

Mugato: akula: They sure bet on the wrong horse when they picked up that intellectual property (Avatar). Disney's been investing heavily on back end things... while I know the My Magic + stuff is the source of much cursing for many Disney fans, it's made actual visits to the resort area much more pleasant. Their website and reservation system was horribly antiquated; now I can change reservations on the fly on my smartphone. Much easier.

I take my nieces to Disney sometimes, and the fast pass plus thing sort of sucks. You have to make "reservations" for a ride like days in advance, which is fine but I don't think they took into account that people make reservations and just don't go, screwing everything up.

Avatar...I realize that it's the biggest grossing film (not counting for inflation) but is anyone really foaming at the mouth for an Avatar Land? They should have gone full on Star Wars.


Disney is doing just fine with their own creations.  The line to see Anna and Elsa at Epcot was over 4 hours long when we went back in March.  If they were really smart, they'd forget about both Avatar and Star Wars and focus on their animated features since that's what appeals to most to their core fandom.
 
2014-08-02 10:59:33 PM  

Mugato: I'm a Star Wars guy and don't really care about Harry Potter.


Likewise.  With all of the stuff that Disney pushes regarding Star Wars, I was rather surprised that they didn't do something with the Orlando Science Center back in 2011/2012 when OSC hosted the "Where Science Meets Imagination" Star Wars exhibit.  It was *so* cool seeing the Millenium Falcon (from ESB), the Tantive IV, the Devastator, Luke's full-size landspeeder, and all the other stuff they had.
 
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