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(Wall Street Journal)   Easy A for a "Game of Thrones" college class? Not so, says UVA students   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 29
    More: Interesting, Game of Thrones, Sam Snead, Denny O'Neil, literary criticisms, depiction, Westeros  
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2014-08-01 07:51:40 PM  
Okay class, anyone want to make the honor role the hard way, raise your hand.

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2014-08-01 08:05:27 PM  
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2014-08-01 08:32:44 PM  
Extra credit question on the quiz: Where do whores go?
 
2014-08-01 08:34:17 PM  
They all die...
 
2014-08-01 08:34:50 PM  
What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.
 
2014-08-01 08:35:46 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Extra credit question on the quiz: Where do whores go?


Easy.

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2014-08-01 08:38:56 PM  

baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.


Eh, it's probably one of those courses that are only a couple of credits and generally used to get you up to 12 credit hours if you wind up with an odd number of hours because you are taking a 6 credit organic chemistry lab course or something. Back when I was at UVA I ran into a similar situation and wanted something fun to offset the science classes and labs, so I took a film class on Cold War cinema for 1 or 2 credits.
 
2014-08-01 08:41:01 PM  

baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.


While I can't speak to the actual content of this class, I think you could definitely make an interesting and challenging course if you treated it as a history course and looked at the material that GRRM was inspired by. The War of the Roses is an obvious choice, but there are plenty of disparate elements that could be examined. The way religion is treated by the different locales, how the issue of slavery is treated in different cultures, the role of women in political settings, etc. And of course, you could definitely also make it a literary course in terms of looking at symbolism and foreshadowing, the Power of Myth archetypes and how they are either used or subverted.

/obviously the books need to be the primary source material for what they're looking at, since the show cuts out so much
//no guarantee that the class won't be a vanity one to grab student attention, but it could work in the right hands
 
2014-08-01 09:17:26 PM  
What I got out of this is that there are some art and education majors with nice stems in that UVA class.
 
2014-08-01 09:25:40 PM  
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2014-08-01 09:41:02 PM  

Mad_Radhu: baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.

Eh, it's probably one of those courses that are only a couple of credits and generally used to get you up to 12 credit hours if you wind up with an odd number of hours because you are taking a 6 credit organic chemistry lab course or something. Back when I was at UVA I ran into a similar situation and wanted something fun to offset the science classes and labs, so I took a film class on Cold War cinema for 1 or 2 credits.


My school had a special status for courses like that. I can't remember if they were worth one credit or zero (regular classes were three and labs were, as people observed, two hours of credit for a six hour class), they didn't count toward any majors, and they often weren't taught by faculty, but they were explicitly designed to be a fun way to learn something offbeat. Since we paid by the semester, not by the credit hour, they were harmless, too, and they were a good break from 15 hours per week each of studying for orgo and biochem.

/the more offbeat regular classes were even better sometimes
/Lego Lab FTW!
 
2014-08-01 10:05:32 PM  

baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.


We all love pop-culture, endlessly talk about it, and countless newspapers and websites write about it, but how dare someone try to think about it in an academic setting.
 
2014-08-01 10:37:01 PM  
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GoT taught me lots of things.
 
2014-08-01 10:39:02 PM  
any english literature class that actually engages the students and makes them interested in the work they are reading is okay in my book.  i wish more colleges would offer courses like this.  but no, they have to teach whole classes about 16th century poems because that's "important."   hey educators, here's a hint:  you can teach the fundamentals of literature using popular modern works just as easily as with old books that your students hate.  the kind of garbage they made me read in school almost made me want to quit reading forever.  if you teach things your students will actually enjoy reading, then you'll inspire them to read more and they'll learn more in the class besides.
 
2014-08-01 10:57:36 PM  

enderthexenocide: any english literature class that actually engages the students and makes them interested in the work they are reading is okay in my book.  i wish more colleges would offer courses like this.  but no, they have to teach whole classes about 16th century poems because that's "important."   hey educators, here's a hint:  you can teach the fundamentals of literature using popular modern works just as easily as with old books that your students hate.  the kind of garbage they made me read in school almost made me want to quit reading forever.  if you teach things your students will actually enjoy reading, then you'll inspire them to read more and they'll learn more in the class besides.


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2014-08-01 11:13:40 PM  

baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.


It probably counts as an English credit. I took Canadian Literature and Native American Literature to fulfill some of my English credits. I also took History of Rock n' Roll to fulfill some of my history credits. It was an interesting class.
 
2014-08-01 11:21:29 PM  

thornhill: baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.

We all love pop-culture, endlessly talk about it, and countless newspapers and websites write about it, but how dare someone try to think about it in an academic setting.


This.  I'm not going to say that ASoIaF belongs in the pantheons of great literature, but it's still popular literature and the show is a critical success, so I see no reason why it wouldn't make a good subject for a seminar class.  If nothing else, to help students that normally shy away from literature classes to really use their critical thinking skills to learn how to break down a story.

/why yes, I've taught English
//love literature
 
2014-08-01 11:45:39 PM  
Wahoo-motherfarking-wa.
 
2014-08-02 12:12:16 AM  

bborchar: thornhill: baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.

We all love pop-culture, endlessly talk about it, and countless newspapers and websites write about it, but how dare someone try to think about it in an academic setting.

This.  I'm not going to say that ASoIaF belongs in the pantheons of great literature, but it's still popular literature and the show is a critical success, so I see no reason why it wouldn't make a good subject for a seminar class.  If nothing else, to help students that normally shy away from literature classes to really use their critical thinking skills to learn how to break down a story.

/why yes, I've taught English
//love literature


Thanks.


Martin certainly isn't Philip Roth, but I give him a lot of credit for how he's completely reinvented the fantasy genre, where he actually explorers what it takes to be a leader rather than just declaring someone a leader because they're a great warrior. Or to think of it another away, as Martin has described it, it's Lord of the Rings where instead of killing orcs Aragorn has to levy taxes and deal with famine.

If done right, with plenty of comparative lit, it could make for a very interesting class.
 
2014-08-02 12:22:16 AM  

biscuitsngravy: Wahoo-motherfarking-wa.


*lines up for the Good Old Song*
 
2014-08-02 12:22:27 AM  

Mugato: Okay class, anyone want to make the honor Hodor role the hard way, raise your hand.

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HODOR.
 
2014-08-02 12:54:44 AM  

baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.


You sound like one if those people that just make bad situations worse because you never learned how to think outside of very rigid and narrowly defined parameters.
 
2014-08-02 05:50:39 AM  
I'm sure the fact that the course is a bit difficult is making whomever is footing the bills, very happy.

/When you pay for school yourself, you tend not to fark around as much.
 
2014-08-02 07:50:32 AM  
How does this class translate to when you will be spending your days making pivot tables and graphs in Excel?
 
2014-08-02 08:54:20 AM  

thornhill: bborchar: thornhill: baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.

We all love pop-culture, endlessly talk about it, and countless newspapers and websites write about it, but how dare someone try to think about it in an academic setting.

This.  I'm not going to say that ASoIaF belongs in the pantheons of great literature, but it's still popular literature and the show is a critical success, so I see no reason why it wouldn't make a good subject for a seminar class.  If nothing else, to help students that normally shy away from literature classes to really use their critical thinking skills to learn how to break down a story.

/why yes, I've taught English
//love literature

Thanks.


Martin certainly isn't Philip Roth, but I give him a lot of credit for how he's completely reinvented the fantasy genre, where he actually explorers what it takes to be a leader rather than just declaring someone a leader because they're a great warrior. Or to think of it another away, as Martin has described it, it's Lord of the Rings where instead of killing orcs Aragorn has to levy taxes and deal with famine.

If done right, with plenty of comparative lit, it could make for a very interesting class.


*a little spoilery*

I was actually discussing the subversion of the hidden prince trope the other night with a friend.  Most fantasy stories start out with "Hey, you're the special one!" in the very beginning, and we then follow the hero through his trials and tribulations to prove himself a leader.  In a character like Jon Snow, we have that backwards...he goes through the trials and tribulations of becoming a leader long before he (or the reader) finds out who he is.  So it's interesting to see how Martin, while not being entirely original, has used a cliché in a new and different way.  It's definitely an interesting story to dissect, because there isn't just one overriding theme; there are many.
 
2014-08-02 09:15:55 AM  
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2014-08-02 09:18:42 AM  

Jizz Master Zero: baconbeard: What difference does it make? It's not like anyone taking the course is going to amount to anything. It's almost as useless as Gender Studies. Almost.

You sound like one if those people that just make bad situations worse because you never learned how to think outside of very rigid and narrowly defined parameters.


Women's studies teaches you how to think inside the box.
 
2014-08-02 11:08:38 AM  
Kids shouldn't learn how to critically think. They should just shut up and let their masters rhino for them. Why do you think we have so many problems in this great nation.

Its sickening.
 
2014-08-02 11:38:33 AM  

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: Mad_Radhu: Extra credit question on the quiz: Where do whores go?

Easy.

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Ho Door!
 
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