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2014-08-01 12:09:12 PM  
Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.
 
2014-08-01 12:15:00 PM  
Is this a trick question?
 
2014-08-01 12:21:29 PM  
Well I sure as hell don't waste my time on Fark, that's for sure...
 
2014-08-01 12:22:41 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Well I sure as hell don't waste my time on Fark, that's for sure...


That's because you're a paid shill for the Obama administration, trolling fark with disinformation at $30/hr.
 
2014-08-01 12:33:06 PM  
The Internet is really really great (for porn)
I have a fast connection so I don't have way to wait (for porn)
 
2014-08-01 02:21:33 PM  

vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.


Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.
 
2014-08-01 02:41:34 PM  
Said the Moonie Times, a rag dedicate solely to wasting people's time.
 
2014-08-01 02:42:48 PM  

ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.


This.
 
2014-08-01 02:44:10 PM  
If you're going to green a Washington Times article, at least keep it on the politics tab.  People over here might not know any better and take it seriously.
 
2014-08-01 02:45:02 PM  

ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.


The banks you bailed out for billions of dollars would like a word.
 
2014-08-01 02:45:17 PM  
People ask for more work? Is subby from space?
 
2014-08-01 02:46:22 PM  

vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.


Must be nice to work somewhere where you can get paid to surf porn...especially if it is on a company machine.

NSFW? Hah!
 
2014-08-01 02:46:40 PM  

ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.


Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!
 
2014-08-01 02:47:41 PM  

MilesTeg: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Must be nice to work somewhere where you can get paid to surf porn...especially if it is on a company machine.

NSFW? Hah!


Personally, I want a job with Vivid Video or Evil Angel. But I'm on the East Coast so I will just have to satisfy myself (ha!) with government service.
 
2014-08-01 02:48:58 PM  
I never understood the whole "watching porn at work" thing. The last place I want to be stuck with a boner is at my desk at work.
 
2014-08-01 02:52:16 PM  
Government employees are the laziest bastards around. Having worked around both state & feds, they are useless. No work, biatch about money, biatch about lake of pensions. They are trash.
 
2014-08-01 02:52:44 PM  

neongoats: I never understood the whole "watching porn at work" thing. The last place I want to be stuck with a boner is at my desk at work.


No shiat! One time I saw a guy watching porn on the metro during rush hour.
 
2014-08-01 02:56:31 PM  

groppet: neongoats: I never understood the whole "watching porn at work" thing. The last place I want to be stuck with a boner is at my desk at work.

No shiat! One time I saw a guy watching porn on the metro during rush hour.


Porn magazines at airports always surprised me. I guess some people join the mile-high club solo?
 
2014-08-01 02:59:32 PM  

vygramul: groppet: neongoats: I never understood the whole "watching porn at work" thing. The last place I want to be stuck with a boner is at my desk at work.

No shiat! One time I saw a guy watching porn on the metro during rush hour.

Porn magazines at airports always surprised me. I guess some people join the mile-high club solo?


For the hotel room that evening.
 
2014-08-01 03:05:42 PM  

ferretman: Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.


Your ass would still be fired tho.
 
2014-08-01 03:07:02 PM  
It's pretty sad that a primary complaint of federal workers is boredom and lack of work -- when it takes FOREVER to get anything done by the government.
 
2014-08-01 03:07:14 PM  

MilesTeg: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Must be nice to work somewhere where you can get paid to surf porn...especially if it is on a company machine.

NSFW? Hah!


My wife has a friend who works for Hustler in their quality control department, so his job is to watch porn all day and make sure it is properly tagger and labeled, so run of the mill anal sex doesn't get mixed in with gaping porn.
 
2014-08-01 03:07:50 PM  

miscreant: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

The banks you bailed out for billions of dollars would like a word.


How much did we lose on those bank bailouts again?
 
2014-08-01 03:11:31 PM  

vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!


His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.
 
2014-08-01 03:13:32 PM  

ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.


So what?  If they didn't surf porn, would your taxes go down?
 
2014-08-01 03:17:12 PM  

miscreant: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

The banks you bailed out for billions of dollars would like a word.


Those banks that Obama, Libs and Dems said they would do something about?
 
2014-08-01 03:20:07 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.


Pay them better salaries and maybe they'll work harder.

I've looked into federal and state jobs before, as I'm near the capital where there are a large number of federal and state buildings. To move from my current position to an equivalent one at the Social Security office I'd have to take a nearly $15,000 pay cut.

Fark that.

Working around a lot of them, I don't disagree with the conclusion that a lot of public employees are kind of lazy (and whiny), but you get what you pay for. The competent people all took better jobs that pay more in the private sector.
 
2014-08-01 03:27:31 PM  
though memos show the employees rarely face criminal prosecution for time and attendance fraud.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, sounds pretty BS to me.
 
2014-08-01 03:30:02 PM  
8 hours _per_week_?

Amateurs.
 
2014-08-01 03:31:26 PM  
Too bad he wasn't a union employee.  Then he could continue surfing porn with no threat of consequences.
 
2014-08-01 03:34:16 PM  

skozlaw: Debeo Summa Credo: Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

Pay them better salaries and maybe they'll work harder.

I've looked into federal and state jobs before, as I'm near the capital where there are a large number of federal and state buildings. To move from my current position to an equivalent one at the Social Security office I'd have to take a nearly $15,000 pay cut.

Fark that.

Working around a lot of them, I don't disagree with the conclusion that a lot of public employees are kind of lazy (and whiny), but you get what you pay for. The competent people all took better jobs that pay more in the private sector.


That's the thing about public jobs.   You can't offer  the stick or the carrot.     That's why I laugh at people who talk about how sweet government workers have it.   There's no shortage of positions open, go take a huge paycut and forego any opportunity of a promotion or bonus in the next 20 years and get you one.        If you're a manager in the private sector and you lower your department costs, you get a Christmas bonus and a corner office.    If you're a manager in the public sector and you lower your department costs, you get even less money next year and some full time positions stripped away because you obviously are working with a lot of budget padding.
 
2014-08-01 03:39:55 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.


In one case we pay taxes to a government, which then distributes pay to workers; in the other, consumers pay owners, who then distribute pay to workers. How come we can remove the middleman in the first set of transactions and claim we pay Federal workers, but we can't apply the same reasoning in the second set?
 
2014-08-01 03:40:17 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.


If you are a customer of said company, technically you are paying the employees' salaries when you buy the product. Inefficiencies caused by the workers lollygagging raise the cost of the product, so even in private industry you kind of foot the bill in a similar manner.
 
2014-08-01 03:43:21 PM  
Yeah.

I'm getting a kick.


At the old job, it would take IT/HR about 48 hours to suspend your ass for porn. It's a little harder to actually fire someone, though. But we were small and the Director was a hard ass about it.

Now,there was an agency head I was aware of that surfed both adult and child porn for years and wasn't busted until he choked his cache out one night. THAT got all over the evening news.
 
2014-08-01 03:49:07 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.


If private industry can't get rid of it, why the fark waste time fretting over it in government? It ain't happening. Move on to a solvable problem and let this one go its usual way. Shiat - the problem is the lack of work for them, not what they're doing when we as taxpayers aren't giving them work.
 
2014-08-01 03:58:15 PM  

Publikwerks: though memos show the employees rarely face criminal prosecution for time and attendance fraud.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, sounds pretty BS to me.


The porn thing isn't a big deal as long as you correctly report the hours under the appropriate project (Project #64212b : Booze, Drugs, Sex) on your timesheet.  Incorrectly reporting it as (Project #78234q : Angry Birds, Fark.com, TV Watching) is grounds for dismissal and possibly even prosecution.
 
2014-08-01 04:03:37 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

In one case we pay taxes to a government, which then distributes pay to workers; in the other, consumers pay owners, who then distribute pay to workers. How come we can remove the middleman in the first set of transactions and claim we pay Federal workers, but we can't apply the same reasoning in the second set?


Simple: you can choose not to consume at a company whom you think overcharges due to overpaid employees.

You can't choose to not pay taxes.
 
2014-08-01 04:08:54 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

In one case we pay taxes to a government, which then distributes pay to workers; in the other, consumers pay owners, who then distribute pay to workers. How come we can remove the middleman in the first set of transactions and claim we pay Federal workers, but we can't apply the same reasoning in the second set?


I have always viewed myself as a shareholder in the government, not a customer of it.

For companies that I'm a customer of, I look at the product or service they provide, and whether I think I'm paying a fair price for what I get.  I couldn't care less how they spend that money.

As a shareholder, I have a stake in the success and profitability of the company, so if the CEO is decorating his yacht with company funds that could otherwise be reinvested or paid to me as dividends, I'm going to have a problem with that.

With the government, I'm way more deeply invested than just "I pay taxes and get services in exchange."
 
2014-08-01 04:24:46 PM  

skozlaw: Debeo Summa Credo: Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

Pay them better salaries and maybe they'll work harder.

I've looked into federal and state jobs before, as I'm near the capital where there are a large number of federal and state buildings. To move from my current position to an equivalent one at the Social Security office I'd have to take a nearly $15,000 pay cut.

Fark that.

Working around a lot of them, I don't disagree with the conclusion that a lot of public employees are kind of lazy (and whiny), but you get what you pay for. The competent people all took better jobs that pay more in the private sector.


Well, there's an element of truth to what you are saying, that if we paid higher salaries we could hire better public workers away from the private sector and let go of the lazy public sector workers.

That said, if his or any other public sector worker's attitude is "if you paid me more if work harder", then he can fark right off and should be shiat canned.

At the same time we are paying for a task to be accomplished, and if public sector workers can goof off and still get that task done to our satisfaction it is an indicator that we need fewer public sector workers.

Now, practically speaking the guy in TFA might be superman and getting a job that takes a normally efficient person 8 hours done in 5, in which case I don't begrudge the 3 hours of porn. Or, his task could be such that there is peak demand for his services and truly nothing to do at other times - if that is actually the case then fap away. Neither of these scenarios are likely but they are possible.
 
2014-08-01 04:30:22 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: You can't choose to not pay taxes.


Sure you can. Just say you're a Sovereign Citizen, and all laws cease to apply to you. True story. Study it out.
 
2014-08-01 04:39:03 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: rumpelstiltskin: Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

In one case we pay taxes to a government, which then distributes pay to workers; in the other, consumers pay owners, who then distribute pay to workers. How come we can remove the middleman in the first set of transactions and claim we pay Federal workers, but we can't apply the same reasoning in the second set?

Simple: you can choose not to consume at a company whom you think overcharges due to overpaid employees.

You can't choose to not pay taxes.


You can choose to move if you think our government employees are overpaid. Go somewhere where they aren't.

serial_crusher:

I have always viewed myself as a shareholder in the government, not a customer of it.

For companies that I'm a customer of, I look at the product or service they provide, and whether I think I'm paying a fair price for what I get.  I couldn't care less how they spend that money.

As a shareholder, I have a stake in the success and profitability of the company, so if the CEO is decorating his yacht with company funds that could otherwise be reinvested or paid to me as dividends, I'm going to have a problem with that.

With the government, I'm way more deeply invested than just "I pay taxes and get services in exchange."


That's a more sensible argument, because what you're claiming is along the lines that you "are" the government, and therefore there is no middleman. If that's the case, why are you paying your lazy employees? You should fire them.
 
2014-08-01 04:45:07 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: Debeo Summa Credo: rumpelstiltskin: Debeo Summa Credo: vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!

His point is we have every right to complain about lazy overpaid govt workers surfing porn on the clock, as we are paying their salaries.

Whereas in private industry, the owners are paying the salaries.

In one case we pay taxes to a government, which then distributes pay to workers; in the other, consumers pay owners, who then distribute pay to workers. How come we can remove the middleman in the first set of transactions and claim we pay Federal workers, but we can't apply the same reasoning in the second set?

Simple: you can choose not to consume at a company whom you think overcharges due to overpaid employees.

You can't choose to not pay taxes.

You can choose to move if you think our government employees are overpaid. Go somewhere where they aren't.

serial_crusher:

I have always viewed myself as a shareholder in the government, not a customer of it.

For companies that I'm a customer of, I look at the product or service they provide, and whether I think I'm paying a fair price for what I get.  I couldn't care less how they spend that money.

As a shareholder, I have a stake in the success and profitability of the company, so if the CEO is decorating his yacht with company funds that could otherwise be reinvested or paid to me as dividends, I'm going to have a problem with that.

With the government, I'm way more deeply invested than just "I pay taxes and get services in exchange."

That's a more sensible argument, because what you're claiming is along the lines that you "are" the government, and therefore there is no middleman. If that's the case, why are you paying your lazy employees? You should fire them.


So you are suggesting we vote for the party that would hire fewer public sector workers than the other political party? And we should lobby incumbent politicians to reduce the number of public sector employees?

Pretty good ideas, I'll consider them.
 
2014-08-01 04:50:19 PM  

neongoats: I never understood the whole "watching porn at work" thing. The last place I want to be stuck with a boner is at my desk at work.


I believe it's men who are less afraid of their bosses finding out, than their wives finding out.

Fortunately Mrs. Anomaly knew I was a man before we got married...
 
2014-08-01 05:12:06 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: So you are suggesting we vote for the party that would hire fewer public sector workers than the other political party? And we should lobby incumbent politicians to reduce the number of public sector employees?Pretty good ideas, I'll consider them.


Just because I'm a communist doesn't mean that I think your primitive government should be run wastefully. You guys should do the best you can given your level of social and economic development.
 
2014-08-01 05:40:50 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-08-01 05:43:55 PM  
Did you know if you type "moonies" into their comments they put it under review and then never review it?
 
2014-08-01 05:56:16 PM  

vygramul: Sin_City_Superhero: Well I sure as hell don't waste my time on Fark, that's for sure...

That's because you're a paid shill for the Obama administration, trolling fark with disinformation at $30/hr.


I know this is a lie, as we all know government does not create jobs
 
2014-08-01 05:57:44 PM  

vygramul: ferretman: vygramul: Government is so wasteful. No one in private industry ever surfs porn instead of working.

Private industry employees are not paid by Federal tax dollars.

Good point - we should only hire from a separate pool of people than private industry has access to - a pool of people who do not have the same foibles and flaws as the rest of us. We have to create this new pool because one would otherwise expect the free market to snatch them all up.

Genius!


This sounds like something the Grand Nagus from DS9 would say, though Zek would be somewhat serious.
 
2014-08-01 06:14:02 PM  
How hard is it to not watch porn at work?  I manage to not watch porn at work.  Am I some sort of guru of self control?  Should I start a religion?  Or are the workers watching porn at work the bottom of the barrel?  And should they be fired because they are likely not up to the job any ways?


Is Backdoor Sluts #9 that tempting?  I know it is the most hardcore porn ever made. And it makes Crotch Capers 3 look like Naughty Nurses 2.  But really, cant a person wait to get home?  Maybe people want to watch 5 midgets spanking a man covered in thousand Island dressing, but don't want to bring that filth home.  Government is already filthy, so why not do it there?
 
2014-08-01 06:15:59 PM  
According to my freelancing IT friend, the most porn-addicted subset of corporate America is accountants.
 
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