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(Telegraph)   Media demands to know why there is no vaccine against Ebola   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 44
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2014-08-01 03:26:23 PM
The vaccine is written down in Pat Tillman's secret diary
 
2014-08-01 04:19:44 PM
But it contains thimerosal.
 
2014-08-01 04:21:02 PM
No profit in it.
 
2014-08-01 04:22:21 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.


Over in 3, see you guys in the next thread
 
2014-08-01 04:23:30 PM
Suffice to say that everything about the virus is extremely complicated and there has not been much chance to study it. First preliminary trials may actually be rolled out this year, but this research is in its infancy.

This is why the US is bringing at least one victim to our shores - we need data, and the virus attacks all organs and internal systems.

Hey media, if you see God please send him to the CDC in Atlanta, mmkay?
 
2014-08-01 04:24:08 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.


Is this you?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-01 04:24:40 PM
Rich white males don't get the disease.
 
2014-08-01 04:27:56 PM
Because Ebola doesn't cause autism.

/amidoingitriteguise?
 
2014-08-01 04:28:02 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.


This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

eccentriceclectic.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-01 04:29:18 PM
Jenny McCarthy told me it cured autism. cured autism. autism. cured. cured autism.
 
2014-08-01 04:31:25 PM

lohphat: Because Ebola doesn't cause autism.


It certainly cures it.
 
2014-08-01 04:34:16 PM
It doesn't make your dick hard or put hair back on your head?
 
2014-08-01 04:34:45 PM
Because before now, most of the people that got the disease weren't white men.
Same thing with HIV/AIDS... as long as those gays were the only ones dying, the straights didn't give a sh*t.
 
2014-08-01 04:34:59 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.


Although, it's less because "you black" and more because "you broke (because your culture was systematically devastated and resources systematically plundered because you aren't white)".
 
2014-08-01 04:40:30 PM

styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]


Your little snark is cute and all, but it doesn't invalidate the underlying truth of his statement: Profit, not altruism, drives the development of new medical treatments.
 
2014-08-01 04:44:21 PM

styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]


That was my cousin's argument when she convinced her husband to pursue alternative "cures" for his cancer.  After over a year of futility they decided to go the conventional route and he is thankfully in remission.  He is extremely lucky that his cancer was relatively slow progressing or else he would have probably ended up at stage 4 by the time they switched over.

Also see,

phdcomics.com
 
2014-08-01 04:45:24 PM

Prophet of Loss: styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]

Your little snark is cute and all, but it doesn't invalidate the underlying truth of his statement: Profit, not altruism, drives the development of new medical treatments.


So what happened with this guy?
a2.files.biography.com
 
2014-08-01 04:48:29 PM

cgraves67: Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

Although, it's less because "you black" and more because "you broke (because your culture was systematically devastated and resources systematically plundered because you lacked military might when whitey went looking for plunder and found you)".


FTFY

Let us not pretend that the problems in Africa are white people's fault. They farked up enough by themselves to own a lot of their current situation.
 
KIA
2014-08-01 04:51:28 PM
Because worldwide deaths from Ebola over the last ten years are still a fraction of what dengue fever or malaria kill in a week?
 
2014-08-01 04:56:06 PM

Ted_Crisp: styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]

That was my cousin's argument when she convinced her husband to pursue alternative "cures" for his cancer.  After over a year of futility they decided to go the conventional route and he is thankfully in remission.  He is extremely lucky that his cancer was relatively slow progressing or else he would have probably ended up at stage 4 by the time they switched over.

Also see,

[phdcomics.com image 600x1431]


What the "they're keeping the cure for cancer locked up because there's no money in it" crowd never seems to realize is that CANCER IS NOT A DISEASE THAT CAN BE ERADICATED. Unfortunately, due to some bugs in the systems that regulate cell growth and death, people will always get cancer. Outside of science fiction, there will always be a market for the (putative) cure.
 
2014-08-01 05:03:42 PM

KIA: Because worldwide deaths from Ebola over the last ten years are still a fraction of what dengue fever or malaria kill in a week?


And of course more than one disease can not be researched at a time.
 
2014-08-01 05:05:31 PM

cgraves67: Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

Although, it's less because "you black" and more because "you broke


I don't see anyone diving in to save the rich Africans (the few, but they exist) from this shiat either.

(because your culture was systematically devastated and resources systematically plundered because you aren't white)".

Africa was poor before all that it just wasn't a poor shiathole.
 
2014-08-01 05:12:09 PM
styckx

Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.


Is this you?


We weren't talking about cancer, we were talking about Ebola, stay on track.
 
2014-08-01 05:15:18 PM
Does ebola exist in animal form? Because it's kinda hard to prove a vaccine works when the outbreaks are so small (relative to other diseases).

Plus, it sounds like the people in Sierra Leone will not submit to a vaccine willingly.
 
2014-08-01 05:24:17 PM

beakerxf: Does ebola exist in animal form? Because it's kinda hard to prove a vaccine works when the outbreaks are so small (relative to other diseases).

Plus, it sounds like the people in Sierra Leone will not submit to a vaccine willingly.


Never mind. Googled it and vaccines can be created without animals.

Stand by my belief they'd have difficulty getting much compliance from some areas of Africa. Distrust of medical personnel is too high.
 
2014-08-01 05:30:42 PM
I thought, from the last Ebola scare, that prevention involved not eating undercooked monkeys. Has this changed?
 
2014-08-01 05:35:06 PM

Ted_Crisp: styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]

That was my cousin's argument when she convinced her husband to pursue alternative "cures" for his cancer.  After over a year of futility they decided to go the conventional route and he is thankfully in remission.  He is extremely lucky that his cancer was relatively slow progressing or else he would have probably ended up at stage 4 by the time they switched over.

Also see,

[phdcomics.com image 600x1431]


The relative ease in developing vaccines for viral diseases and antibiotics for bacterial diseases has given people false optimism towards curing diseases where the body is basically destroying itself. Viruses and bacteria are so easy to destroy because they are so different from our own cells. Cancer cells are too alike, this makes it difficult to administer high enough doses to kill cancer cells without killing the patient too.
 
2014-08-01 05:46:37 PM

styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]


She seems credible.
 
2014-08-01 05:47:13 PM
All the harshest truths are Sharpied on Scotch tape.
 
2014-08-01 05:51:18 PM
perhaps we can try creating a vaccine by almost killing the virus and injecting it into the press to see if their immune system forms antibodies
 
2014-08-01 05:52:35 PM
Has anybody else in the Farkverse noticed that the death toll seems to be climbing by about 20 people per day?
 
2014-08-01 06:12:05 PM
Before this summer is over they will demand a vaccine for Chikungunya
 
2014-08-01 06:14:56 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.


There's no profit in vaccines, period.
 
2014-08-01 06:16:52 PM
Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-08-01 06:25:12 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.


I thought Quincy secured funding from those greedy bastards, FARKERS, A**, BIATCH,
i.ytimg.com
years ago.
 
2014-08-01 06:27:13 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

[eccentriceclectic.files.wordpress.com image 160x133]


Don't be so silly. You are probably American, your news stations tailor news to be pertinent to you. They tell you about what's happening in America and some broader stuff on a global scale. Ebola spreading in west Africa was already headline stuff, but yes, once some Americans got it that did give the story extra legs, but that's natural. It's not a sign of no one caring, or racism. Perhaps, if anything, it's a sign of you not caring, because like I said, it was making headlines around the world, even in America, and I know this because it was on Fark, before the westerners died.
 
2014-08-01 06:44:21 PM
America hasn't even come up with a cure for bullets, and they've killed four Presidents.
 
2014-08-01 06:55:17 PM

Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

[eccentriceclectic.files.wordpress.com image 160x133]


This has been making the rounds on Fark for MONTHS. I remember 3 headlines just off the top of my head from when this current outbreak first sprouted up in Guinea back in FEBRUARY.

If you haven't heard about it yet it's because YOU don't think it's newsworthy until westerners start dying, or you just haven't been paying attention.
 
2014-08-02 12:24:43 AM
The Ebola Virus has been in the USA for 20 years.

Read a book called The Hot Zone by Richard Preston. Non-fiction.

Unlike Fox News.
 
2014-08-02 07:54:18 AM
 
2014-08-02 10:33:33 AM

DerAppie: cgraves67: Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

Although, it's less because "you black" and more because "you broke (because your culture was systematically devastated and resources systematically plundered because you lacked military might when whitey went looking for plunder and found you)".

FTFY

Let us not pretend that the problems in Africa are white people's fault. They farked up enough by themselves to own a lot of their current situation.


That's the thing about farking up other people's shiat: you can't really prove what would have happened had you not. African colonialism wasn't limited to just the slave trade (horrific genocide), manufactured tribal conflict (horrific genocide) or exploitation for resources. Europeans dicked Africa as hard and long as possible. The only thing Africa has going for it is the constant instability we caused is keeping us from efficiently extracting it's resources.
 
2014-08-02 11:02:55 AM

mccallcl: DerAppie: cgraves67: Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.  Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy.

Although, it's less because "you black" and more because "you broke (because your culture was systematically devastated and resources systematically plundered because you lacked military might when whitey went looking for plunder and found you)".

FTFY

Let us not pretend that the problems in Africa are white people's fault. They farked up enough by themselves to own a lot of their current situation.

That's the thing about farking up other people's shiat: you can't really prove what would have happened had you not. African colonialism wasn't limited to just the slave trade (horrific genocide), manufactured tribal conflict (horrific genocide) or exploitation for resources. Europeans dicked Africa as hard and long as possible. The only thing Africa has going for it is the constant instability we caused is keeping us from efficiently extracting it's resources.


I'm not talking about what could have been without colonisation. I'm talking about how things are and how there was a series of choices that caused them to be where they are now. After trillions in aid and decades of independence a lot of the countries are still shiatholes for one reason or another that has nothing to do with white people.
 
2014-08-02 02:51:48 PM

Tellurium: Ted_Crisp: styckx: Random Anonymous Blackmail: No profit in it.

Is this you?

[i.imgur.com image 600x800]

That was my cousin's argument when she convinced her husband to pursue alternative "cures" for his cancer.  After over a year of futility they decided to go the conventional route and he is thankfully in remission.  He is extremely lucky that his cancer was relatively slow progressing or else he would have probably ended up at stage 4 by the time they switched over.

Also see,

[phdcomics.com image 600x1431]

The relative ease in developing vaccines for viral diseases and antibiotics for bacterial diseases has given people false optimism towards curing diseases where the body is basically destroying itself. Viruses and bacteria are so easy to destroy because they are so different from our own cells. Cancer cells are too alike, this makes it difficult to administer high enough doses to kill cancer cells without killing the patient too.


One of the best descriptions of chemotherapy I've ever heard was "We are poisoning the patient and hoping the cancer dies first".  Which is pretty much accurate... you tweak the poison to target the cancer as much as possible but ultimately anything toxic to cancer is toxic to the rest of the body because the cancer is, quite literally, identical to you.
 
2014-08-03 04:33:10 AM

Opiate of the Lasses: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: Rich white males don't get the disease.

This.  If anybody "worth saving" had it, they'd have developed one.


Except there is no actual guarantee that a human vaccine is possible, regardless of how much money you pour into research. Have you had your HIV shots yet?
The good news is that there are promising results but it's not that easy to get permission or subjects for human testing.

Notice how 700+ Africans died and it was a peripheral/footnote story, but then once it came out a Westerner died/may have boarded a plane, it's become headline newsworthy

It's been global headline news for weeks.
 
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