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(ABC)   Hillary Clinton prepares for the Democratic primaries by not visiting Iowa for 2,401 days and not visiting New Hampshire for 2,397 days   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 61
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2014-08-01 11:00:59 AM
Good.  Give those poor people a break.
 
2014-08-01 11:54:30 AM
Smart strategy. Don't over-saturate the market.
 
2014-08-01 12:29:08 PM
It may help them forget how much they hated her in 2008.
 
2014-08-01 12:42:22 PM
...or maybe she's actually not running? Nah, that couldn't be it.
 
2014-08-01 12:42:29 PM
I still think she's intentionally screwing with the republicans.
 
2014-08-01 12:43:12 PM

Mentat: Good.  Give those poor people a break.


true

quatchi: Smart strategy. Don't over-saturate the market.


Very smart....dont be like Christie and Perry

abb3w: It may help them forget how much they hated her in 2008.


And we are done here folks
 
2014-08-01 12:44:58 PM
New Hampshire votes blue. Iowa loves that Koch money, so they're a "swing state". Point already stated, why visit so much anyway?
 
2014-08-01 12:45:25 PM
I bet there's a CNN reporter punching himself right now for not thinking of this story first.
 
2014-08-01 12:46:55 PM
There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.
 
2014-08-01 12:47:17 PM
That's funny because ALL the GOP Pres.hopeful asshats have been here multiple times, and the standard reaction from like 80% of NHers is Whatthefarkisthatguydoin'here...again.
 
2014-08-01 12:47:28 PM
I feel like HIllary is Lucy holding the football for the Repubs. There's a couple real candidates out there somewhere getting groomed right now for the fall. We're going to start seeing them more and more as the election cycle moves on but HIllary is still going to be receiving most of the Repubs attention. Once the real candidates are announced the Repubs will have spent so much time snarling and trolling HIllary that they'll have nothing prepared to launch against the real candidates. Scramble scramble like a cat covering a turd on a tile floor.
 
2014-08-01 12:48:47 PM
2,401 days, huh?  How many fortnights is that?
 
2014-08-01 12:49:07 PM
Democratic primaries that are still 1.5 years away
 
2014-08-01 12:49:39 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.


But then how will the media present a horse-race narrative for months on end while pundits dissect every swing in the polls within the margin of error based on the most recent "gaff" committed by a candidate?

It's like you don't even care about the talking heads.
 
2014-08-01 12:49:49 PM

HMS_Blinkin: ...or maybe she's actually not running? Nah, that couldn't be it.


That would be quite a troll job on the media.  And the GOP.
 
2014-08-01 12:50:22 PM

Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.


Thereby ensuring that only the candidates with the funds to advertise in all the states simultaneously can win
 
2014-08-01 12:50:47 PM

Butterflew: I feel like HIllary is Lucy holding the football for the Repubs. There's a couple real candidates out there somewhere getting groomed right now for the fall. We're going to start seeing them more and more as the election cycle moves on but HIllary is still going to be receiving most of the Repubs attention. Once the real candidates are announced the Repubs will have spent so much time snarling and trolling HIllary that they'll have nothing prepared to launch against the real candidates. Scramble scramble like a cat covering a turd on a tile floor.


So...sorta like what happened in '08?
 
2014-08-01 12:52:15 PM
Why would she?  NH and Iowa are mainly primary targets, no?  What's the benefit of kissing up to them, when she has no viable primary challengers?
 
2014-08-01 12:53:25 PM
So what...she's known. She hasn't officially announced. And she doesn't want to rock the boat before the elections.
 
MFK
2014-08-01 12:54:23 PM

Lost Thought 00: Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.

Thereby ensuring that only the candidates with the funds to advertise in all the states simultaneously can win


THIS.

You'd basically be ensuring that our elections would be filled with nothing but Mitt Romneys.
 
2014-08-01 12:54:38 PM

chionophile: 2,401 days, huh?  How many fortnights is that?


171.5.  Your computer probably has a calculator, and if not, there are several on-line.
 
2014-08-01 12:55:06 PM

Wendy's Chili: I bet there's a CNN reporter punching himself right now for not thinking of this story first.


They're all too busy writing some form of "Size 12 - Is it Really Plus Size?"

You know, the important things.
 
2014-08-01 12:55:26 PM
As if Hillary Clinton needs Iowa or New Hampshire.
 
2014-08-01 12:57:33 PM

MFK: Lost Thought 00: Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.

Thereby ensuring that only the candidates with the funds to advertise in all the states simultaneously can win

THIS.

You'd basically be ensuring that our elections would be filled with nothing but Mitt Romneys.


We have the choice now between Mitt Romney and not Mitt Romney... And we still choose Mitt Romney.
 
2014-08-01 01:00:03 PM

DrD'isInfotainment: That's funny because ALL the GOP Pres.hopeful asshats have been here multiple times, and the standard reaction from like 80% of NHers is Whatthefarkisthatguydoin'here...again.


NH is busy watching Scott Brown slowly, but surely, solidify the need for his third run in one of the Carolina's.
 
2014-08-01 01:00:26 PM
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"Mitt Romney, these Mitt Romneys want to change your Mitt Romney. They don't want Mitt Romney or any of these Mitt Romneys to live here because it's bad for their Mitt Romney. They use Mitt Romney to try and force Mitt Romneys to believe they're Mitt Romney. If you let them stay here, they will build Mitt Romneys and Mitt Romneys. They will take all your Mitt Romneys and replace them with Mitt Romney. These Mitt Romney have no good Mitt Romney to live on Mitt Romney, so they must come here to Mitt Romney. Please, let these Mitt Romneys stay where they can grow and prosper without any Mitt Romneys, Mitt Romneys, or Mitt Romneys. "

-Mitt Romney
 
2014-08-01 01:04:14 PM

wxboy: HMS_Blinkin: ...or maybe she's actually not running? Nah, that couldn't be it.

That would be quite a troll job on the media.  And the GOP.


How would it be trolling (on Hillary's part I mean)?  She's been pretty consistent in saying publicly that she's not running.  She's not visiting primary states.  The only evidence she's running is that everyone (especially the media) says she is---and the GOP are preparing to run against her.  Her statements and actions do not yet give any indication that she plans to run.

Felgraf: I still think she's intentionally screwing with the republicans.


I would love to be able to screw with Republicans as much as she can.  All she has to do is tweet something  vague like "Something big will be happening in 2 years!" and she can watch Fox literally shiat themselves on air over it for 3 or 4 days.

Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.


Agreed.  This overemphasis on the early primary states is totally unhelpful.  It sucks for Iowans and New Hampshire-ites (?) because they have to deal with a deluge of derp.  It sucks for other states because their voices are comparatively less important in the process.  It's unfair all the way around.
 
2014-08-01 01:06:03 PM
She has proven herself to be a pretty inept politician.  Look up her 2000 Senate run, and you won't exactly read about a political genius.
 
2014-08-01 01:07:53 PM

bronyaur1: She has proven herself to be a pretty inept politician.  Look up her 2000 Senate run, and you won't exactly read about a political genius.


And yet she is more favorable than any GOP candidate. Hmm.
 
2014-08-01 01:08:05 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.

Agreed. This overemphasis on the early primary states is totally unhelpful. It sucks for Iowans and New Hampshire-ites (?) because they have to deal with a deluge of derp. It sucks for other states because their voices are comparatively less important in the process. It's unfair all the way around.


They should have staggered primaries, but only announce the results to the candidates, then the public finds out on one date.

Or, a more equitable choice, staggered primaries in an order based on a rota or by lottery, with the option to trade dates with another state for whatever incentives you can devise.

New Hampshire and Iowa shouldn't always get to go first.
 
2014-08-01 01:08:27 PM

HMS_Blinkin: She's been pretty consistent in saying publicly that she's not running


Watch her Daily Show interview. That was pretty far from saying she is not running
 
2014-08-01 01:09:45 PM

LordJiro: Butterflew: I feel like HIllary is Lucy holding the football for the Repubs. There's a couple real candidates out there somewhere getting groomed right now for the fall. We're going to start seeing them more and more as the election cycle moves on but HIllary is still going to be receiving most of the Repubs attention. Once the real candidates are announced the Repubs will have spent so much time snarling and trolling HIllary that they'll have nothing prepared to launch against the real candidates. Scramble scramble like a cat covering a turd on a tile floor.

So...sorta like what happened in '08?


Yes, exactly. I don't think Hillary will run in the primary though. I feel like it's going to be 2 unknowns and the GOP won't be prepared for that.
 
2014-08-01 01:09:50 PM

worlddan: As if Hillary Clinton needs Iowa or New Hampshire.


Oh, she needs them all right...if only to take the early wins and head off any talk about a surprise serious Democratic challenger detracting from her run to the nomination. That said, I think her current tactic of staying mostly below the radar screen is a sound plan. There will plenty of time after this fall's election for her ground troops to wrap things up for her.

At least she's not following the lead of the yapping dog GOP would-be candidates taking this approach:

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2014-08-01 01:10:16 PM
You know the election system is farked up when more attention is paid to states with nothing but cornfields then to cities with bigger populations then those states.
 
2014-08-01 01:11:49 PM

Triple Oak: New Hampshire votes blue. Iowa loves that Koch money, so they're a "swing state". Point already stated, why visit so much anyway?


Primaries.

Iowa and New Hampshire hold the first Caucus and Primary votes for each party. While the actual number of delegates at stake is small, the winner of each election tends to get a massive boost in fundraising and a bump up the polls in other states with later primaries. Basically because a lot of people want to vote for and donate to the person they think will win so their vote/cash wasn't for a loser.

If you win both you're in a very good position to win the nomination. If you're a close second you can make up the difference, but it's going to be tough. If you're not in the top two for either primary then you need to work out a way to siphon as much money from your campaign war chest into your personal accounts as you can before you're down to single digit polling levels.
 
2014-08-01 01:12:12 PM

HMS_Blinkin: How would it be trolling (on Hillary's part I mean)? She's been pretty consistent in saying publicly that she's not running.


As far as I can tell, she's been consistent in not saying she's running, which is entirely different from saying she's not running.
 
2014-08-01 01:13:34 PM
Why won't Hillary be more considerate of and cooperative with the right wing's plans to destroy her?
 
2014-08-01 01:15:06 PM

palelizard: chionophile: 2,401 days, huh?  How many fortnights is that?

171.5.  Your computer probably has a calculator, and if not, there are several on-line.


Oh, really, that seems like a lot of fortnights.  Can you tell me how many hours it is too?
 
2014-08-01 01:15:17 PM
"But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of woman who would run for president again? Now, a clever woman would say she's not running, because she would know that only a great fool fall for that. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly say you are running for president. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not count on you running for president."

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2014-08-01 01:23:33 PM
As a New Hampshire resident, this may be the first move on her part I approve of in years.
 
2014-08-01 01:24:42 PM

palelizard: HMS_Blinkin: Jaden Smith First of His Name: There should just be one primary date and we all vote at the same time.

Agreed. This overemphasis on the early primary states is totally unhelpful. It sucks for Iowans and New Hampshire-ites (?) because they have to deal with a deluge of derp. It sucks for other states because their voices are comparatively less important in the process. It's unfair all the way around.

They should have staggered primaries, but only announce the results to the candidates, then the public finds out on one date.

Or, a more equitable choice, staggered primaries in an order based on a rota or by lottery, with the option to trade dates with another state for whatever incentives you can devise.

New Hampshire and Iowa shouldn't always get to go first.


I like the idea, except that you'd have to ban exit polling.  The media could make a pretty decent guess at who was winning, if they conducted decent exit polls.

wxboy: HMS_Blinkin: How would it be trolling (on Hillary's part I mean)? She's been pretty consistent in saying publicly that she's not running.

As far as I can tell, she's been consistent in not saying she's running, which is entirely different from saying she's not running.


That's true, but you have to admit that the media has been pouring quite a bit of fuel on that fire.  I mean, I have been consistent in not saying I'm running (and I haven't said I'm NOT running), but no one's doing opposition research on me.  I'd rather see the media keep quiet about an election that's more than 2 years away AT LEAST until some candidate publicly announces that they're running.
 
2014-08-01 01:24:55 PM
D135:

Truely, you have a dizzying intellect.
 
2014-08-01 01:26:39 PM
With the internet now, you don't need to physically travel to every damn state.  Even if she does go to Iowa and NH, what percentage of the population will actually get to be where she is, or listen to her speak?
 
2014-08-01 01:26:45 PM
So sometime in 2009-10 she presumably was supposed to show up in Iowa for...something, to make sure she would poll slightly better in 2016? Is that really the premise here?
 
2014-08-01 01:29:09 PM

WhackingDay: D135:

Truely, you have a dizzying intellect.


Wait 'till I get going!

/now where was I?
 
2014-08-01 01:29:36 PM
After the debacle in 2012, no one should trust anything out of Iowa, ever. The caucuses there are so distorted that 3 different people "won" the primary, depending on when it was counted and allocated.
/Santorum
 
2014-08-01 01:30:51 PM
... The primaries that won't occur for almost two more years?

GOOD.jpg.
 
2014-08-01 01:34:14 PM
Why bother?  Those states won't matter.  I am sure they've already boiled it down to 2 to 3 states and she'll visit those about 4,000 times.
 
2014-08-01 01:35:09 PM

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"Mitt Romney, these Mitt Romneys want to change your Mitt Romney. They don't want Mitt Romney or any of these Mitt Romneys to live here because it's bad for their Mitt Romney. They use Mitt Romney to try and force Mitt Romneys to believe they're Mitt Romney. If you let them stay here, they will build Mitt Romneys and Mitt Romneys. They will take all your Mitt Romneys and replace them with Mitt Romney. These Mitt Romney have no good Mitt Romney to live on Mitt Romney, so they must come here to Mitt Romney. Please, let these Mitt Romneys stay where they can grow and prosper without any Mitt Romneys, Mitt Romneys, or Mitt Romneys. "

-Mitt Romney



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2014-08-01 01:38:14 PM

chionophile: palelizard: chionophile: 2,401 days, huh?  How many fortnights is that?

171.5.  Your computer probably has a calculator, and if not, there are several on-line.

Oh, really, that seems like a lot of fortnights.  Can you tell me how many hours it is too?


Well, that's 2,401 x 24. You can figure it out from there.
 
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