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(CBS Philadelphia)   Gamestop moves to be proactive in game sales, requiring fingerprints for your purchase of a used automatic assault game   (philadelphia.cbslocal.com) divider line 36
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2014-08-01 06:22:34 PM
Poor console gamers. Lousy games, lousy tech, lousy service.
 
2014-08-01 06:48:11 PM
With Steam I never need to visit a Gamestop again.

Thank you, Steam.
 
2014-08-01 06:49:44 PM
I'd say I would stop going to Gamestop over this, but seeing as I can't remember the last time I went to Gamestop instead of Amazon anyway, it's kind of a meaningless statement.
 
2014-08-01 06:54:45 PM
Oh good. Another torrent of superiority from people who think that PC/console ownership is an either/or choice.
 
2014-08-01 06:56:04 PM
When they ask for your finger give them your middle finger....in their face....then walk out.
 
2014-08-01 07:00:20 PM
The conservative racist derp in the comments is incredible.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-01 07:01:46 PM
requiring fingerprints for your purchase of a used automatic assault game

By "your purchase" submitter means "your sale." Used stuff dealers have to have a plan for handling stolen stuff. Some buy it and move it out before anybody notices. Some scrap dealers only use traceable forms of payment to buy scrap. This shop asks for a fingerprint to prevent anonymous sales of stolen games.
 
2014-08-01 07:06:56 PM
PC gamers, let me know how playing red dead redemption, uncharted series, the last of us, mario kart, Dragons Dogma, newer zelda games, Bloodborne, etc on your pc works out. Most pc exclusives are mobas  and crappy mmos, but honestly the only thing Id fix my laptop for that I cant play on console is the new Diviniry.

Lately Ive been playing Brave Frontier on my kindle. It's like Dragon Quest and Pokemon had a child.
 
2014-08-01 07:07:15 PM
I was about to comment that this likely has more to do with Philly than Gamestop (in Georgia, Gamestop is legally classified as a pawnbroker, therefore all laws that apply to pawn shops also apply to Gamestop, so you have to show ID to trade in games, etc), but according to TFA the city isn't holding Gamestop to the law, they're doing it on their own.
 
2014-08-01 07:18:54 PM

BloodFireDeath: PC gamers, let me know how playing red dead redemption, uncharted series, the last of us, mario kart, Dragons Dogma, newer zelda games, Bloodborne, etc on your pc works out. Most pc exclusives are mobas  and crappy mmos, but honestly the only thing Id fix my laptop for that I cant play on console is the new Diviniry.

Lately Ive been playing Brave Frontier on my kindle. It's like Dragon Quest and Pokemon had a child.


Mario Kart?  No.

www.justpushstart.com 
More like Project CARS.

All the rest of those games?  Would rather play a Bethesda title with mods than bother with them.

And once we get GTA V?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
2014-08-01 07:19:33 PM

The Bestest: I was about to comment that this likely has more to do with Philly than Gamestop (in Georgia, Gamestop is legally classified as a pawnbroker, therefore all laws that apply to pawn shops also apply to Gamestop, so you have to show ID to trade in games, etc), but according to TFA the city isn't holding Gamestop to the law, they're doing it on their own.


Well, the lawyer (i.e. the person who knows the actual laws) says they don't need to do this.

But the police officer (i.e. the person who knows how to make your life suck, regardless of any laws) seems pretty happy about it.
 
2014-08-01 07:22:46 PM

BloodFireDeath: PC gamers, let me know how playing red dead redemption, uncharted series, the last of us, mario kart, Dragons Dogma, newer zelda games, Bloodborne, etc on your pc works out. Most pc exclusives are mobas  and crappy mmos, but honestly the only thing Id fix my laptop for that I cant play on console is the new Diviniry.

Lately Ive been playing Brave Frontier on my kindle. It's like Dragon Quest and Pokemon had a child.


Well, I'm convinced! I'm going to get an XBox One so I can play all those awesome games you just mentioned!
 
2014-08-01 07:51:31 PM

ZAZ: requiring fingerprints for your purchase of a used automatic assault game

By "your purchase" submitter means "your sale." Used stuff dealers have to have a plan for handling stolen stuff. Some buy it and move it out before anybody notices. Some scrap dealers only use traceable forms of payment to buy scrap. This shop asks for a fingerprint to prevent anonymous sales of stolen games.


that all makes sense if we forget the fact that one copy of one game is indistinguishable from another copy of the same game. That's where this whole thing runs out of gas and turns into a pr nightmare for them. When I was young I may have known people who would sell CDs, that they hadn't purchased, to used record stores, the store would ask for id and they would give it to them because there was no way to tell one cd from another. GameStop getting biometric data is just a step further down the road of pointlessness
 
2014-08-01 08:33:04 PM

ZAZ: requiring fingerprints for your purchase of a used automatic assault game

By "your purchase" submitter means "your sale." Used stuff dealers have to have a plan for handling stolen stuff. Some buy it and move it out before anybody notices. Some scrap dealers only use traceable forms of payment to buy scrap. This shop asks for a fingerprint to prevent anonymous sales of stolen games.


Read the article,  They don't meet the definition of a pawn shop used by the law.  Game stop is not required to do anything about tracking people who sell stuff.

There are so many things wrong in this article.  Why the inner city and not the suburbs,  Why is the government forcing pawn stores to store seller identification and how does that not violate multiple parts of the constitution.  Why the hell still uses gamestop.
 
2014-08-01 08:51:19 PM
OK, so you report your stolen game to the police. Your game has no serial number or anything uniquely identifiable. Police look at LeadsOnline and see a whole bunch of stores that bought copies of that game, and they all have similar descriptions. Even if the victim had uniquely marked his copies, the clerk entering descriptions might not have thought of describing those marks when they entered the item in the database, and the police officer's search terms might not find that anyway.

I'm trying to think of any purpose this has besides GameStop-performed security theatre and intimidation of sellers, but I'm drawing a blank. There's no way anybody is going to find their stolen games because of what GameStop is doing.
 
2014-08-01 08:57:17 PM

BloodFireDeath: PC gamers, let me know how playing red dead redemption, uncharted series, the last of us, mario kart, Dragons Dogma, newer zelda games, Bloodborne, etc on your pc works out. Most pc exclusives are mobas  and crappy mmos, but honestly the only thing Id fix my laptop for that I cant play on console is the new Diviniry.

Lately Ive been playing Brave Frontier on my kindle. It's like Dragon Quest and Pokemon had a child.


So, by your logic, I should rush out and buy:

1 PS3, 270$ (but hey, it includes The Last of Us, a 50$ savings)
1 Wii U, 300$ (that one includes Wind Waker, so I guess it's a savings)
1 Xbox 260 180$ (holy fark, it's 4gig...if you want a sane size of 250 (still tiny), that's 250$)
1 Xbone, 400$ (no game, no backwards compatibility, remember?)
1 PS4, 450$ (again, no games)

So...1600$, not including a TV.  Vs. about 1500$ for a computer+ huge monitor.  That total goes up if you want the 250 gig Xbox, and a Wii (since you mentioned classic wii games...) to about 1750.  But then you mentioned you were playing something on your kindle fire. We will assume you meant a Kindle Fire HD, 8 gig, with special offers, which adds 140$ to the price, bringing us to about 1890$. Before tax. With no games.

Then for games, your options are 'pawn shop', or amazon.

Whereas for computers, I can use steam, origin, amazon, GoG, and a handful of other sites.

Bear in mind, I've owned every console up till the current generation of ps4/xbone, at least 1-2 times, and I'll include every handheld except the nokia phone and the 3ds/vita.  I still use my PS3 for games like Last of Us (which is good, but not remotely good enough to justify purchasing a PS3 for, I don't get the love), and I have a love for the Atelier series, as well as odd ball RPGs like Resonance of Fate.  I've probably played an RPG in general if you can name it.

And while overall I do most of my gaming on my computer now, it's not because consoles are inferior or PCs are superior, it's because I can do 5 different things in the background while gaming.  If the sum total of your gaming life is 'adventure games' then yes, you probably should stick to consoles.

PS:
Let me know how playing WoW (or any MMO excluding FF14), Kerbal Space program, Minecraft (yes, I'm aware, but it's a knockdown version at best), any Elder Scrolls/Fallout game, Divinity: Original Sin, Starcraft, Civ anything, Baldur's Gate, Leisure Suit Larry, and Deponia goes for you.  Many/most console games get ported to PC eventually, because it's usually quite easy, and the hardware on the PC end vastly outshines the console stuff.  I could pull out an interesting PC game which is PC only for every one you could show me for consoles in the last few years. As much as I hate it, kickstarter and early access Steam has opened the gates for indy/odd developers.
 
2014-08-01 09:01:54 PM

Nem Wan: OK, so you report your stolen game to the police. Your game has no serial number or anything uniquely identifiable. Police look at LeadsOnline and see a whole bunch of stores that bought copies of that game, and they all have similar descriptions. Even if the victim had uniquely marked his copies, the clerk entering descriptions might not have thought of describing those marks when they entered the item in the database, and the police officer's search terms might not find that anyway.

I'm trying to think of any purpose this has besides GameStop-performed security theatre and intimidation of sellers, but I'm drawing a blank. There's no way anybody is going to find their stolen games because of what GameStop is doing.


Unless it is also quite literally all of your games and your consoles no one gives a shiat that you lost $40 - $60. There is more important shiat to spend time on.
 
2014-08-01 09:02:51 PM
if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.
 
2014-08-01 09:14:44 PM

Nemo's Brother: if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.


You have purchased a license to play the game.

You don't need to own a physical copy of the game because you can download as many times as you want, across all computers that you own.


If you wait for Steam sales, you can purchase games far, far below what the console versions cost so that any benefit you may have gotten from trading in used games is pretty much nullified.
 
2014-08-01 09:16:25 PM

Warlordtrooper: Why is the government forcing pawn stores to store seller identification and how does that not violate multiple parts of the constitution


It always has? Because pawn shops are commonly fences for stolen goods, so maintaining a verifiable source of 'where did this come from' helps track down someone who is serial breaking and entering places. It's low-rent theft.  A pawn shop can get shut down or heavily fined if they get caught receiving stolen goods, and at the very least the stolen goods get repossessed, meaning they're out whatever they paid for them.

Nemo's Brother: if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.


Oh, holy farking shiatballs, that's a totally new and revolutionary theory which hasn't been beaten to death like a stale whore.  Steam has earned trust. Steam hasn't farked the user base. Steam has said 'if we go out, games will be available to play somehow.

Show me a single instance of steam ever revoking a game license or otherwise not allowing users to access content they paid for which is not A) Server related, B) refund related (no, you don't get infinite refunds, but they do often refund games which are released and unplayable), C) A key-sale issue (i.e. they ran out of keys to sell, and have to wait for the developers to make more available), D) Valve's Anti-cheat system catching a dumbass, or a similar issue.  Just one.

You can, in fact, play offline. There's a checkbox. You can also disable your internet connection.  Once you download a digital copy of a game, you can back it up however you want, and it's not like you can't find cracks to remove the steam check from games. Or, with about half of them, you just edit the name of the .exe to have -steam or something so it doesn't run through steam.
 
2014-08-01 09:18:04 PM
I don't have time for pissing contests about whats better, why not just get a decent job like an adult and buy whatever the hell you want?  Buy a few consoles, build a gaming PC, what's the big friggin deal?
 
2014-08-01 09:28:59 PM

Nemo's Brother: if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.


When I buy a steam game for $9.99, I can use it whenever and wherever I want.

// Just like your mom.
 
2014-08-02 01:11:55 AM
Not worth the hoops they make you jump through.
 
2014-08-02 01:54:44 AM
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What's a "GameStop?"
 
2014-08-02 02:14:24 AM

Nemo's Brother: if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.


I was going to tell you that I'm pregnant and/or I live in my parent's basement, but then you got a wonderful bite.
 
2014-08-02 03:44:59 AM

kroonermanblack: Warlordtrooper: Why is the government forcing pawn stores to store seller identification and how does that not violate multiple parts of the constitution

It always has? Because pawn shops are commonly fences for stolen goods, so maintaining a verifiable source of 'where did this come from' helps track down someone who is serial breaking and entering places. It's low-rent theft.  A pawn shop can get shut down or heavily fined if they get caught receiving stolen goods, and at the very least the stolen goods get repossessed, meaning they're out whatever they paid for them.

Nemo's Brother: if you "buy" via Steam, you don't really own anything.

Oh, holy farking shiatballs, that's a totally new and revolutionary theory which hasn't been beaten to death like a stale whore.  Steam has earned trust. Steam hasn't farked the user base. Steam has said 'if we go out, games will be available to play somehow.

Show me a single instance of steam ever revoking a game license or otherwise not allowing users to access content they paid for which is not A) Server related, B) refund related (no, you don't get infinite refunds, but they do often refund games which are released and unplayable), C) A key-sale issue (i.e. they ran out of keys to sell, and have to wait for the developers to make more available), D) Valve's Anti-cheat system catching a dumbass, or a similar issue.  Just one.

You can, in fact, play offline. There's a checkbox. You can also disable your internet connection.  Once you download a digital copy of a game, you can back it up however you want, and it's not like you can't find cracks to remove the steam check from games. Or, with about half of them, you just edit the name of the .exe to have -steam or something so it doesn't run through steam.


A girl I know lost her entire Steam library (well, user) to some sort of glitch. Everything gone. Dozens of purchases just gone. Not hers anymore. No record. No chance of recovery. I'm as surprised as you. It does happen, not often enough to make me not use Steam but it does happen.
 
2014-08-02 07:34:08 AM

Frederf: A girl I know lost her entire Steam library (well, user) to some sort of glitch. Everything gone. Dozens of purchases just gone. Not hers anymore. No record. No chance of recovery. I'm as surprised as you. It does happen, not often enough to make me not use Steam but it does happen.


This just needed a FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:YOU WON'T BELIEVE!!!!!! from my mother before it.
 
2014-08-02 08:47:16 AM

kroonermanblack: Frederf: A girl I know lost her entire Steam library (well, user) to some sort of glitch. Everything gone. Dozens of purchases just gone. Not hers anymore. No record. No chance of recovery. I'm as surprised as you. It does happen, not often enough to make me not use Steam but it does happen.

This just needed a FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:YOU WON'T BELIEVE!!!!!! from my mother before it.


That girl was Marine Todd's girlfriend. All of the games that she lost were based on Marine Todd's life, such as "Super Killer Elite Superkiller", "Fine Moral Christian Crusaders against Heathen Musselmen", and "Marine Todd's Wholesome Apple Pie Adventure".

Then Marine Todd kicked Valve Software managing director Gabe Newell right in the face, and Gabe Newell promised that he would give a free copmuter to every Real American boy in the whole world, and that computer would include a free version the awesome game that Marine Todd wrote called "Marine Todd Beats Up Batman Because America".
 
2014-08-02 08:51:17 AM
PCs have steam sales, consoles have being finger printed before gamestop gives you pennies on the dollar for your original $60 purchase.  It all works out.  I've had my apartment broken into before, you know what didn't get stolen?  My steam account.
 
2014-08-02 09:03:38 AM

gopher321: Poor console gamers. Lousy games, lousy tech, lousy service.


Glitchwerks: With Steam I never need to visit a Gamestop again.

Thank you, Steam.


Last Man on Earth: I'd say I would stop going to Gamestop over this, but seeing as I can't remember the last time I went to Gamestop instead of Amazon anyway, it's kind of a meaningless statement.


That about sums it up nicely for me as well.

BloodFireDeath: PC gamers, let me know how playing red dead redemption, uncharted series, the last of us, mario kart, Dragons Dogma, newer zelda games, Bloodborne, etc on your pc works out. Most pc exclusives are mobas  and crappy mmos, but honestly the only thing Id fix my laptop for that I cant play on console is the new Diviniry.

Lately Ive been playing Brave Frontier on my kindle. It's like Dragon Quest and Pokemon had a child.


I guess we will just have to find something else to play.

Maybe we will find something among the 4,749 titles currently in the  "under 10 bucks" category

                                                        OR

The 2,784 titles in the "under 5 bucks" category.
                                                        OR

media.pcgamer.com
 
2014-08-02 09:50:04 AM
I see no way that GameStop still exists in 5 years.

But I'm going to end up losing a few hundred bucks betting it would have been sooner.
 
2014-08-02 09:55:33 AM

Dragonflew: The conservative racist derp in the comments is incredible.


You're not kidding. I could smell the cross burning from the other side of my monitor.
 
2014-08-02 11:35:31 AM

BMFPitt: I see no way that GameStop still exists in 5 years.

But I'm going to end up losing a few hundred bucks betting it would have been sooner.


They're still a good all-in-one stop for shopping for anything video game related.  Peripherals to branded gear like t-shirts, etc.  They'll be around until the economy just can't support them.
And they're embracing the whole download pc games for cheaper theme, to include sale prices, so that only adds to their longevity.

The problem with stores like Walmart or even Best Buy or what have you, is that they just don't have the selection.  They carry only some of the must have's.

Your claim is like the claim that desktop PC's are dead.
 
2014-08-02 04:32:12 PM
Somebody must have sent a Blockbuster Video operations manual to the head of Gamestop.
(Would that Rule #1 have been, "Disregard this manual".)
 
2014-08-02 06:24:53 PM

BMFPitt: I see no way that GameStop still exists in 5 years.


Radioshack managed to cling on well past complete irrelevance.  Perhaps GameStop will somehow manage the same feat.

(although Radioshack's days do indeed seem to be numbered.)
 
2014-08-02 07:20:54 PM

Glitchwerks: Radioshack managed to cling on well past complete irrelevance.  Perhaps GameStop will somehow manage the same feat.

(although Radioshack's days do indeed seem to be numbered.)


All the money I lost on GME I made on RSH.  And I took profits way to soon on that one.
 
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