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2014-07-31 08:13:51 PM  
Fiber is important for digestion.
 
2014-07-31 08:15:31 PM  
Terrible airline.
 
2014-07-31 08:25:58 PM  
Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?
 
2014-07-31 08:42:42 PM  

Gig103: Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?


Exactly.  She's right in that most people don't need 1Gbps speeds, but with Google offering 1Gbps broadband with no usage cap at $70 month, it effectively puts a price ceiling on anything that Frontier can come out with - if they want to offer lower tiered services, they have to offer them for savings that make it worthwhile for customers who have the option of what's essentially unlimited data at unlimited speed.
 
2014-07-31 09:06:18 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Gig103: Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?

Exactly.  She's right in that most people don't need 1Gbps speeds, but with Google offering 1Gbps broadband with no usage cap at $70 month, it effectively puts a price ceiling on anything that Frontier can come out with - if they want to offer lower tiered services, they have to offer them for savings that make it worthwhile for customers who have the option of what's essentially unlimited data at unlimited speed.


And, hopefully, puts a kick in their pants to upgrade their existing service, since they'd Comcast themselves if they could get away with it.
 
2014-07-31 09:10:33 PM  
Frontier will offer gigabit packages, too, Wilderotter promises, within "the next several quarters," as services emerge that justify such speeds.

Translation: I sh*t my pants whenever I hear the phrase Google Fiber.
 
2014-07-31 09:20:59 PM  
bdub77:Translation: I sh*t my pants whenever I hear the phrase Google Fiber.

That's fiber's purpose!

I'd take anything about now.  I use carrier pigeons transporting USB drives.  The speed bursts are impressive, the latency is awful.
 
2014-07-31 09:26:14 PM  
"We have to take the mystery and the technology out of the experience for the user because it's a bit disrespectful to speak a language our customers don't understand,"

I really hope Google's PR people latch onto that quote and rip her a new one.
 
2014-07-31 09:28:16 PM  

Lsherm: TuteTibiImperes: Gig103: Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?

Exactly.  She's right in that most people don't need 1Gbps speeds, but with Google offering 1Gbps broadband with no usage cap at $70 month, it effectively puts a price ceiling on anything that Frontier can come out with - if they want to offer lower tiered services, they have to offer them for savings that make it worthwhile for customers who have the option of what's essentially unlimited data at unlimited speed.

And, hopefully, puts a kick in their pants to upgrade their existing service, since they'd Comcast themselves if they could get away with it.



 Comcast charges me $90/month for 50Mbps service, which may or may not have a 'soft cap' of around 350GB depending on how Comcast is feeling that particular week.

If Google came into town, I have to think that they'd suddenly find themselves able to offer much more competitive pricing.
 
2014-07-31 09:41:11 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Lsherm: TuteTibiImperes: Gig103: Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?

Exactly.  She's right in that most people don't need 1Gbps speeds, but with Google offering 1Gbps broadband with no usage cap at $70 month, it effectively puts a price ceiling on anything that Frontier can come out with - if they want to offer lower tiered services, they have to offer them for savings that make it worthwhile for customers who have the option of what's essentially unlimited data at unlimited speed.

And, hopefully, puts a kick in their pants to upgrade their existing service, since they'd Comcast themselves if they could get away with it.


 Comcast charges me $90/month for 50Mbps service, which may or may not have a 'soft cap' of around 350GB depending on how Comcast is feeling that particular week.

If Google came into town, I have to think that they'd suddenly find themselves able to offer much more competitive pricing.


They put me on a package that had "Blast" internet (up to 105 Mbs!) that never, ever, ever got above 20 Mbs. And I'm not talking about busy parts of the day. I'm in an older neighborhood and they either don't have the infrastructure in place to support it or they are saving bandwidth for their cable On Demand services. I ran a test hourly for two weeks downloading incompressible data from two separate locations and the speed never got above 20Mbs.  The only way to get it above even 25 Mbs was to use Comcasts own "authorized speed test" - which involved compression from a Comcast hub to your modem. Even then they couldn't get anywhere near what they were claiming.

 Their cheapest internet plan goes "up to" 25 Mbs, so I canceled my old plan and told them I'd shiatcan all my service if they charged me a fee, so they didn't.  I still only get 20 Mbs, but at least I'm not paying extra for it.
 
2014-07-31 10:20:08 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: bdub77:Translation: I sh*t my pants whenever I hear the phrase Google Fiber.

That's fiber's purpose!

I'd take anything about now.  I use carrier pigeons transporting USB drives.  The speed bursts are impressive, the latency is awful.


IP over carrier pigeon is faster than my Verizon DSL.
/posted 2 days ago...
 
2014-07-31 10:22:54 PM  
I have frontier fios, they just LOVE to blast their frontier commercials at 10x the volume of everything else. You'll be watching something on TV and it goes to a commercial break and all the sudden COMING THIS JULY ON FRONTIER FIOS!! some jackass screaming their crap at you. Aholes.
 
2014-07-31 10:28:06 PM  
Considering that Frontier is also the ones who fraudulently enter secured buildings on "Work calls" to advertise door to door, as well as committing mail fraud by delivering mail without return addresses under false pretense, this is no big surprise that they would commit this sort of nonsense as well. 

Frontier knows they're garbage, here in OR. And to get around that, they act like assholes.
 
2014-07-31 10:28:47 PM  
I seriously hope that this isn't the "competition fiber optic service" they hope to win customers over with: Frontier FiOS offers 15 mbps for $30 a month.

15mpbs per sec? Really?

Lsherm: They put me on a package that had "Blast" internet (up to 105 Mbs!) that never, ever, ever got above 20 Mbs.


That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-31 10:30:39 PM  
Let me just CEOsplain this to you...
 
2014-07-31 10:34:55 PM  

RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).


I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.
 
2014-07-31 10:35:02 PM  
My choices are AT&T and Time Warner Cable.  Please google, come and put an end to my nightmare.
 
2014-07-31 10:35:11 PM  
640K is enough for everyone, right?
 
2014-07-31 10:38:54 PM  
I'd love to pile on Comcast, but we pay for 50meg service and constantly get that, and a bit more.  Am I the only one?

/Eugene
 
2014-07-31 10:39:26 PM  
The only thing people need to know about google fiber is that they need it right the fark now.

img.fark.net
 
2014-07-31 10:48:06 PM  

Lsherm: I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.


Sigh.... I'd like to say that there was some kind of law against that sort of advertising or charging for a service that they know they can't come close to providing, but I'm sure the first representative who drafted that bill either suddenly came across a large sum of money, or died on a fishing trip.

BadJazz: I'd love to pile on Comcast, but we pay for 50meg service and constantly get that, and a bit more.  Am I the only one?

/Eugene


I've rarely had issues with their service, speeds, etc, and their reps that they have in the actual service centers have always been nice whether dropping off a cable box or picking up a cable card. I pay my bill, and Comcast leaves me alone. From what it seems like here on Fark, I am in the absolute minority in my dealings with them, and Comcast is otherwise a company who curb stomps puppies and hires guys to just sit outside on the telephone poles with potentiometers throttling their internet for shiats and giggles all while pointing laser pointers at aircraft hoping they crash into residential buildings.
 
2014-07-31 10:51:20 PM  
I've got a company touting fiber to the home, 1G service.  They started advertising 6 months ago.  I can see the line on a pole inside my own fenceline on the easement.  I spoke to the lineman when they ran the lines last winter.

They still have yet to call me (or anyone in the area) back.  Shut up and take my money, indeed.
 
2014-07-31 10:55:43 PM  

Lsherm: RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.


Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

Anyway, not to defend Comcast, but speed is not one of my complaints with them. I also get 100+ down, 10-25 up. Price, their awful customer service, and their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.

Of course, my city does get major upgrades from them fairly regularly. Sucks if they are neglecting or overselling your area.
 
2014-07-31 10:59:58 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Sigh.... I'd like to say that there was some kind of law against that sort of advertising or charging for a service that they know they can't come close to providing, but I'm sure the first representative who drafted that bill either suddenly came across a large sum of money, or died on a fishing trip.


Nope, and they wanted to charge me an early termination fee for my first package because it was introductory and I was canceling it because I wasn't getting anywhere near the speeds they advertised.  Follow this logic: they wanted me to cancel, charge me a cancellation fee, and then re-sign me up as a new customer so I could get a new introductory plan that didn't have an extra $40 a month for bandwidth they couldn't deliver.

I had to raise a stink to get bumped down a notch on my plan. I'm still irritated I have to pay $10 a month for "HD service" since it is absolutely asinine to offer anything but in this day and age. After my year is up I'm planning on just canceling the TV plan altogether and keeping the internet since it's the only broadband option here. I can get a basic HD plan from one of the satellite companies for about $20 less a month, and I don't watch that much TV.
 
2014-07-31 11:03:06 PM  

Mnemia: their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.


If there's a solid reason that everyone across the board can hate them for, it is that.
 
2014-07-31 11:04:48 PM  

RoxtarRyan: Lsherm: I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.

Sigh.... I'd like to say that there was some kind of law against that sort of advertising or charging for a service that they know they can't come close to providing, but I'm sure the first representative who drafted that bill either suddenly came across a large sum of money, or died on a fishing trip.

BadJazz: I'd love to pile on Comcast, but we pay for 50meg service and constantly get that, and a bit more.  Am I the only one?

/Eugene

I've rarely had issues with their service, speeds, etc, and their reps that they have in the actual service centers have always been nice whether dropping off a cable box or picking up a cable card. I pay my bill, and Comcast leaves me alone. From what it seems like here on Fark, I am in the absolute minority in my dealings with them, and Comcast is otherwise a company who curb stomps puppies and hires guys to just sit outside on the telephone poles with potentiometers throttling their internet for shiats and giggles all while pointing laser pointers at aircraft hoping they crash into residential buildings.


You've been lucky, although I will say that things generally run okay for me in between dealings with them. My last move, within their same service area, with NO equipment owned by them other than a Cablecard involved, was an absolute nightmare. Took about 3 phone calls to get the cable modem working and 10+ for the cablecard. Their problem is that 90% of their call center staff are absolute cretins (seriously, some of the people who work there are the absolute dumbest people I've ever talked to on the phone in a customer service context). So you have to keep calling back until you get someone who isn't a water head. They obviously either a) have zero standards about who they hire, or b) don't pay well enough to attract or retain people capable of doing the job.
 
2014-07-31 11:07:23 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: bdub77:Translation: I sh*t my pants whenever I hear the phrase Google Fiber.

That's fiber's purpose!

I'd take anything about now.  I use carrier pigeons transporting USB drives.  The speed bursts are impressive, the latency is awful.


And the packet loss due to eagles and cats is a big killer too.
 
2014-07-31 11:08:36 PM  

Mnemia: Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.


I bought the most expensive modem they advised and/or offered to lease at the time. I even called them before I signed up and confirmed what was on their web site was current.  It's a Motorola SB6121, which is rated up to 172 Mbs down and DOCSIS 3.0 compatible. It never gets close to 172 Mbs, or hot, for that matter.  172 Mbs down isn't an ethernet limitation, it's a cable modem limit. My router is a Netgear Nighthawk, which has tested on the local network at way more than I'm (obviously) getting from the uplink to Comcast.
 
2014-07-31 11:15:00 PM  
She is correct, I don't need gigabit speeds. I won't literally die without it. Unless I someday need to contact emergency services by email.

/best currently available is up to 15
//I once saw it hit 3
 
2014-07-31 11:15:08 PM  

BadJazz: I'd love to pile on Comcast, but we pay for 50meg service and constantly get that, and a bit more.  Am I the only one?

/Eugene


I get on average between 48 and 64 megs to the door with what I'm getting through Comcast right now. Added to the fact that I'm on speed-dial to their ECR department, and I'm okay with them for now. If google can offer me better, I'll go with them, but until then, I'm good where I am. 

/PDX
 
2014-07-31 11:15:09 PM  

Mnemia: Lsherm: RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.

Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

Anyway, not to defend Comcast, but speed is not one of my complaints with them. I also get 100+ down, 10-25 up. Price, their awful customer service, and their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.

Of course, my city does get major upgrades from them fairly regularly. Sucks if they are neglecting or overselling your area.


Has nothing to do with the modem, has everything to do with the infrastructure. Unless you have a seriously old cable modem.

Wireless routers from 2002 could churn out 50 megs, but there were no network connections to handle it.  Not to mention their wired ports could easily do 100 megs.

DOCSIS 2.0 which came out in 2001 one can do 25 megs easily.

3.0 which was released in 2006 can run up to 160 megs.
 
2014-07-31 11:19:02 PM  

Gergesa: My choices are AT&T and Time Warner Cable.  Please google, come and put an end to my nightmare.


I love paying 57 dollars a month for 15/3*. Thanks TWC!

*offer excludes Netflix, Hulu, and YouTube.
 
2014-07-31 11:20:12 PM  
It's not about residential, it's about trying to differentiate their "business" services, which are stupid expensive and still worse than Google.
 
2014-07-31 11:22:03 PM  
You know, she doesn't need a car that can do more than 90 miles per hour, because you're not allowed to drive that fast anyway. So, a car with 50 horsepower or less is perfectly adaquate for her. And how often do people use the trunk, really? Once a week when grocery shopping? Once a year when they need to bury the hooker? That could just be put on the back passenger seats. And airbags? Probably will never need them. You can go without power everything too, use good old muscle power when steering, and the key like an actual key when opening the door. Speaking of doors, you only really need a rear door on one side, and if you made the front seats into a bench seat as well you could eliminate the front passenger door too! And why have a big gas tank when you rarely drive more than 50 miles at a time? Put a 3 gallon tank in there instead. Why have headlights when you drive during the day, and can hold a flashlight the rare times you drive at night? J
ust think of the savings!

//I wouldn't be surprised if such a car was built by the Soviet Union.
 
2014-07-31 11:22:32 PM  

Lsherm: Mnemia: Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

I bought the most expensive modem they advised and/or offered to lease at the time. I even called them before I signed up and confirmed what was on their web site was current.  It's a Motorola SB6121, which is rated up to 172 Mbs down and DOCSIS 3.0 compatible. It never gets close to 172 Mbs, or hot, for that matter.  172 Mbs down isn't an ethernet limitation, it's a cable modem limit. My router is a Netgear Nighthawk, which has tested on the local network at way more than I'm (obviously) getting from the uplink to Comcast.


You actually have the exact same router AND modem that I do, so obviously it is the infrastructure in your case. I only brought it up because I've recently helped a surprising number of friends who ARE still using some garbage old modem or router from 2003 or something and wondering why their Internet is slow (and in some cases paying Comcast a monthly fee for leasing that trash, which Comcast will happily keep accepting).
 
2014-07-31 11:23:40 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: It's not about residential, it's about trying to differentiate their "business" services, which are stupid expensive and still worse than Google.


So they want to apply the airline business model? Makes sense, since airlines are always so wildly profitable...
 
2014-07-31 11:23:44 PM  

theflatline: Mnemia: Lsherm: RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.

Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

Anyway, not to defend Comcast, but speed is not one of my complaints with them. I also get 100+ down, 10-25 up. Price, their awful customer service, and their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.

Of course, my city does get major upgrades from them fairly regularly. Sucks if they are neglecting or overselling your area.

Has nothing to do with the modem, has everything to do with the infrastructure. Unless you have a seriously old cable modem.

Wireless routers from 2002 could churn out 50 megs, but there were no network connections to handle it.  Not to mention their wired ports could easily do 100 megs.

DOCSIS 2.0 which came out in 2001 one can do 25 megs easily.

3.0 which was released in 2006 can run up to 160 megs.


Hmmmm....my provider (TWC) replaced my modem when they upgraded my speed from 50 to 300. Are you sure your information is correct?

"To access the faster speed, we'll replace your current modem with a new state-of-the-art modem. To make arrangements to get your new modem, please visit twc.com/speedincrease or call 1-844-273-6686."
 
2014-07-31 11:28:17 PM  
Where have I heard this before?  Oh right, Kansas City.
 
2014-07-31 11:28:24 PM  
Sorry, Frontier Lady.

I live in Frontier country (they bought out Verizon, and they do remarkably better than Verizon, but....) in the forest east of Portland. In the next several weeks, we'll be installing a municipally owned/operated fiber optic system.

For the same price Frontier charges for 1.0 DSL, we'll be getting 100 mbps glass, and for $20 more, we can have the gigabit service.

Frontier won't be able to touch that.
 
2014-07-31 11:29:23 PM  

Mr.Tangent: 640K is enough for everyone, right?


In a row?
 
2014-07-31 11:30:36 PM  

theflatline: Mnemia: Lsherm: RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.

Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

Anyway, not to defend Comcast, but speed is not one of my complaints with them. I also get 100+ down, 10-25 up. Price, their awful customer service, and their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.

Of course, my city does get major upgrades from them fairly regularly. Sucks if they are neglecting or overselling your area.

Has nothing to do with the modem, has everything to do with the infrastructure. Unless you have a seriously old cable modem.

Wireless routers from 2002 could churn out 50 megs, but there were no network connections to handle it.  Not to mention their wired ports could easily do 100 megs.

DOCSIS 2.0 which came out in 2001 one can do 25 megs easily.

3.0 which was released in 2006 can run up to 160 megs.


A lot of people have seriously old cable modems. Keeping up with the DOCSIS standards isn't something most people make a hobby of. All they know is that their Internet is slow, and they don't know why.

Also, although it's true that an 802.11g router from 2002 could pull 50 Mbps through the air under ideal conditions, that's less true for the same router now, probably, with how crowded the 2.4 GHz spectrum is in a lot of places like apartment complexes. You had to upgrade at some point just to maintain the same speed.
 
2014-07-31 11:30:44 PM  
According to wikipedia, the theoretical max throughput of DOCSIS 3.0 is 1029 mbps.  There's apparently a DOCSIS 3.1 that was released in October 2013 that achieves 10 Gbps.
 
2014-07-31 11:31:05 PM  
This?? From the sh^tbags that have a talking buffalo as a spokesperson?
 
2014-07-31 11:31:59 PM  

BadJazz: I'd love to pile on Comcast, but we pay for 50meg service and constantly get that, and a bit more.  Am I the only one?

/Eugene


I'm with Time Warner and I get maybe 60% to 70% of what I pay for. The fastest plan they sell is 50 Mb/s - except for cities with Google Fiber, where they magically can offer 100 Mb/s for *drum roll please* exactly the same price as the 50 Mb/s plan, which happens to be just a smidgen less than Google Fiber's price.

My biggest problem with Time Warner's service is that they have issues somewhere along the network that sometimes causes the connection to drop every 20 seconds, for periods of 10 to 15 minutes. And they have some strange setup that prevents some of my software from connecting to the online APIs that it needs to connect to - they invoke a timeout issue of some sort. I know it's not a problem with the software because I made the software and monitor it like a hawk.
 
2014-07-31 11:32:12 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: For the same price Frontier charges for 1.0 DSL, we'll be getting 100 mbps glass, and for $20 more, we can have the gigabit service.


I rather pay $36.99 I pay now for 15Mb/s Frontier. Honestly, I can't watch TV any faster, and free porn is not very high quality.
 
2014-07-31 11:32:52 PM  

Demodiki: theflatline: Mnemia: Lsherm: RoxtarRyan: That sucks, man. I routinely average 80-90 down, and even peaked a 120 one day (part of the the line graph that gets obscured by the number 3, I was too slow to screen cap it when I did it).

I'm sure they CAN offer it, but not in neighborhoods with 20-30 year old infrastructure. No matter to Comcast, they will sell it to you anyway.

Make sure you have a modem and router that can handle it. A lot of even slightly older ones can't, even if they have Ethernet or wireless theoretically capable of it.

Anyway, not to defend Comcast, but speed is not one of my complaints with them. I also get 100+ down, 10-25 up. Price, their awful customer service, and their evil scheming to destroy the Internet are my problems with them.

Of course, my city does get major upgrades from them fairly regularly. Sucks if they are neglecting or overselling your area.

Has nothing to do with the modem, has everything to do with the infrastructure. Unless you have a seriously old cable modem.

Wireless routers from 2002 could churn out 50 megs, but there were no network connections to handle it.  Not to mention their wired ports could easily do 100 megs.

DOCSIS 2.0 which came out in 2001 one can do 25 megs easily.

3.0 which was released in 2006 can run up to 160 megs.

Hmmmm....my provider (TWC) replaced my modem when they upgraded my speed from 50 to 300. Are you sure your information is correct?

"To access the faster speed, we'll replace your current modem with a new state-of-the-art modem. To make arrangements to get your new modem, please visit twc.com/speedincrease or call 1-844-273-6686."


It is, where do you see that i say any of those specs I mention go to 300...  I mean, call the IEEE and chew them out.
 
2014-07-31 11:39:24 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Gig103: Better prices for more modest speeds

So, Google has already helped and they haven't even solidified plans to move into Portland. Just imagine what prices will do when they do arrive?

Exactly.  She's right in that most people don't need 1Gbps speeds, but with Google offering 1Gbps broadband with no usage cap at $70 month, it effectively puts a price ceiling on anything that Frontier can come out with - if they want to offer lower tiered services, they have to offer them for savings that make it worthwhile for customers who have the option of what's essentially unlimited data at unlimited speed.


Whatever dude. Who the fark needs more than 640k?
 
2014-07-31 11:43:47 PM  

theflatline: It is, where do you see that i say any of those specs I mention go to 300... I mean, call the IEEE and chew them out.


They stopped taking my calls after complaining about the shiatty micro USB standard. "Yay, let's make a plug so thin that plugging in and removing cables even non-forcibly over a short period of time will cause it to break". WTF was wrong with mini-USB? Easier to tell when it was going in the wrong way, less prone to breaking on the female end, and it didn't make a whole helluva lot of difference in size for cell phone use.
 
2014-07-31 11:44:26 PM  

Harry_Seldon: Lenny_da_Hog: For the same price Frontier charges for 1.0 DSL, we'll be getting 100 mbps glass, and for $20 more, we can have the gigabit service.

I rather pay $36.99 I pay now for 15Mb/s Frontier. Honestly, I can't watch TV any faster, and free porn is not very high quality.


That's what they charge here for _1_ mpbs. Uno.

They can bump me up to 1.5 for like another 10 bucks/month.

That's why I'm going with the 100mbps for the same price. There are dozens of sites I can't watch -- Like Comedy Central -- without buffering, losing, etc. It takes forever to upload anything (upload is like .75).

Frontier hasn't tried to stay competitive. They haven't invested anything. Now that other people are, they're trying to say, "Hey, we've been there with you the whole time!" -- but they haven't made any investment to keep up with the times. This is the same DSL-in-the-woods options and pricing I had when I first moved here years ago.
 
2014-07-31 11:50:10 PM  

Farkenhostile: I have frontier fios, they just LOVE to blast their frontier commercials at 10x the volume of everything else. You'll be watching something on TV and it goes to a commercial break and all the sudden COMING THIS JULY ON FRONTIER FIOS!! some jackass screaming their crap at you. Aholes.


I didn't know that was legal anymore.
 
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