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(The New York Times)   CIA admits its agents improperly searched Senate computers. Don't worry, though, they'd never illegally monitor ordinary civilians, that would be wrong   (nytimes.com) divider line 80
    More: Asinine, Senate, Saxby Chambliss, Democrat Party, intelligence, George W. Bush Administration  
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2014-07-31 05:12:26 PM  
And also don't worry, even though they "improperly penetrated" the Senate computers and then lied about it, no on is going to face any charges. Or be fired. Or any meaningful consequences at all. So everyone goes home happy.
 
2014-07-31 05:26:41 PM  

TheOmni: And also don't worry, even though they "improperly penetrated" the Senate computers and then lied about it, no on is going to face any charges. Or be fired. Or any meaningful consequences at all. So everyone goes home happy.


The Jedi Council has been disbanded and their leaders placed under house arrest.
 
2014-07-31 05:51:20 PM  
They don't have to. That's why the NSA was created, as a semi-covert op. And they would have gotten away with the covert part if it wasn't for that meddling Snowden.

/nothing changed though
 
2014-07-31 06:18:02 PM  
Of course not. That's the FBI's job.
 
2014-07-31 07:47:22 PM  
Y'know how we got along just fine for 171 years without a CIA? Yeah, about that...
 
2014-07-31 07:47:42 PM  
where can I get a job snooping (ie perving) through people's email accounts? specifically women with exhibitionistic tendencies and a good camera? bie? eip


/asking for a fiend
 
2014-07-31 07:50:33 PM  
I don't see why the Culinary Institute of America is sticking their nose in the Senate's business. They should stick to teaching the culinary arts.
 
2014-07-31 07:52:06 PM  

Omahawg: where can I get a job snooping (ie perving) through people's email accounts? specifically women with exhibitionistic tendencies and a good camera? bie? eip


/asking for a fiend


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-31 07:52:30 PM  
Anyone want to revisit the fallout effects of the Patriot Act NOW?
 
2014-07-31 07:58:28 PM  

Fano: TheOmni: And also don't worry, even though they "improperly penetrated" the Senate computers and then lied about it, no on is going to face any charges. Or be fired. Or any meaningful consequences at all. So everyone goes home happy.

The Jedi Council has been disbanded and their leaders placed under house arrest.


But are the younglings safe?
 
2014-07-31 07:59:51 PM  
How does the CIA do a proper search of Senate computers. I thought they had no domestic jurisdiction
 
2014-07-31 08:01:12 PM  
Spying is only legal, domestically, if authorized by the attorney general. Holder needs to bring charges. If not it appears he authorized it.
 
2014-07-31 08:01:14 PM  
It's time

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2014-07-31 08:01:31 PM  
They're hoping that over the course of their bi-monthly vacation (which starts now and goes until after Labor Day) that it will have blown over.  It probably will have, too....
 
2014-07-31 08:03:23 PM  
This reminds me of the HP search scandal. Investigate the flunkies and cleaning staff? No problem. Investigate the board? Outrage!!

/all the CIA found were Craislist meet up accounts and receipts for Mexican viagra.
 
Ehh
2014-07-31 08:04:02 PM  
Remember there were noises in the Senate after the USSR fell that maybe we didn't need the CIA anymore? Then Bin Laden came along, and those noises stopped.
 
2014-07-31 08:04:12 PM  

Billy Liar: They're hoping that over the course of their bi-monthly vacation (which starts now and goes until after Labor Day) that it will have blown over.  It probably will have, too....


Hey did you guys hear that Britney Spears did something wacky to Kim Kardashian's ass?
 
2014-07-31 08:04:36 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: It's time

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It's time too late

 
2014-07-31 08:06:00 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: It's time

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Every time I think the national security state has gone to far, I look at the alternative -- libertard Ayn Rand readers -- and I figure, eh, it's not so bad.
 
2014-07-31 08:06:15 PM  

Aar1012: How does the CIA do a proper search of Senate computers. I thought they had no domestic jurisdiction


It's cute that you think they follow rules/law.
 
2014-07-31 08:07:00 PM  

Aar1012: Billy Liar: They're hoping that over the course of their bi-monthly vacation (which starts now and goes until after Labor Day) that it will have blown over.  It probably will have, too....

Hey did you guys hear that Britney Spears did something wacky to Kim Kardashian's ass?


Yeah, but who hasn't?
 
2014-07-31 08:07:48 PM  

LazyMedia: Y'know how we got along just fine for 171 years without a CIA? Yeah, about that...


This. I learned all I need to know about the CIA in 1953.

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/ohgodhowdowefixthis
 
2014-07-31 08:14:39 PM  

LazyMedia: Y'know how we got along just fine for 171 years without a CIA? Yeah, about that...


Oh I think we still need them, but I suggest a scheme to help keep them in line. Any time they are found to have engaged in or facilitated any sort of domestic intelligence gathering - without prior approval by the AG as they're supposed to get - they have 5% of their annual budget split between the National Highway Fund and NPR. Have the penalty for each infraction.

NPR's team of highly professional reporters will watch them like a farking stalker, and we'll get some roads fixed when the CIA is caught behaving badly.
 
2014-07-31 08:19:03 PM  

mongbiohazard: LazyMedia: Y'know how we got along just fine for 171 years without a CIA? Yeah, about that...

Oh I think we still need them, but I suggest a scheme to help keep them in line. Any time they are found to have engaged in or facilitated any sort of domestic intelligence gathering - without prior approval by the AG as they're supposed to get - they have 5% of their annual budget split between the National Highway Fund and NPR. Have the penalty for each infraction.

NPR's team of highly professional reporters will watch them like a farking stalker, and we'll get some roads fixed when the CIA is caught behaving badly.


That'll just give them more incentive to not get caught
 
2014-07-31 08:22:55 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: It's time

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it's way past time....
 
2014-07-31 08:27:05 PM  
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2014-07-31 08:27:33 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: It's time

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For a religious zealot to gain complete power over our government through violence?  I think that time has come, gone, and sold the t-shirt.
 
2014-07-31 08:31:51 PM  
It's not like the other side of the fence has never intentionally farked around with the CIA or similar intelligence agencies.

Paging Wheeler, paging Rep. Wheeler....
 
2014-07-31 08:34:35 PM  
At last there investigating real criminals.
 
2014-07-31 08:43:38 PM  
selfdeprecate.com
 
2014-07-31 08:51:35 PM  
Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
 
2014-07-31 08:53:29 PM  

ferretman:


John O. Brennan, this is John O. Brennan of the CIA, now I know I'm in there if I don't come out with my hands up in five minutes I'm coming in after me.
 
2014-07-31 08:53:52 PM  

Odoriferous Queef: It's time


Nope. Fark the Papacy, and fark Spain.
 
2014-07-31 09:13:41 PM  

TheOmni: And also don't worry, even though they "improperly penetrated" the Senate computers and then lied about it, no on is going to face any charges. Or be fired. Or any meaningful consequences at all. So everyone goes home happy.


Actually, I doubt that very seriously. I expect that quick action will be taken to ensure that Senators are exempted from the program entirely. They won't stop the program, of course. Just exempt themselves from it. That's technically a consequence.
 
2014-07-31 09:17:41 PM  
I think we all should be able to see what's on their computers. They work for us.
 
2014-07-31 09:28:13 PM  

marksman: I think we all should be able to see what's on their computers. They work for us.


You funny.
 
2014-07-31 09:30:58 PM  

marksman: I think we all should be able to see what's on their computers. They work for us.


I own stock in Harley Davidson. Does that mean I should be able to help myself to corporate emails whenever I feel like it?
 
2014-07-31 09:33:15 PM  

marksman: I think we all should be able to see what's on their computers. They work for us.


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2014-07-31 09:41:50 PM  
Well, the Senate includes a heck of a lot of people who voted in favour of building the post 9-11 police state.

So that's sweet, sticky justice for those guys.
 
2014-07-31 09:56:05 PM  
This country is in the last throes of entropy.
 
2014-07-31 10:01:34 PM  

MyRandomName: Spying is only legal, domestically, if authorized by the attorney general. Holder needs to bring charges. If not it appears he authorized it.




Holder was ordered not to bring any charges in the CIA torture investigation. He has yet to bring any charges. No way he will grow a backbone now and follow the law.
 
2014-07-31 10:05:22 PM  
 
2014-07-31 10:05:27 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: It's not like the other side of the fence has never intentionally farked around with the CIA or similar intelligence agencies.

Paging Wheeler, paging Rep. Wheeler....


What "other side?" We have *one* federal government. When you give the government power, you give *all* of it power, regardless of who is in office.

The idea of "sides" is ridiculous, and illustrates how government is now an "enforcement agency" in the eyes of the voter. Too many people see it as "us against them," which is exactly how the clowns in government get elected year after year. All that is necessary to win votes today is the promise to fark over voters' political enemies. A candidate need not deliver anything else.

The federal government was never supposed to be so powerful, so pervasive that the people could use it as a weapon against those they disagree with. Now that's all it is: an elected thug to push partisan agendas and steam-roll anyone in the path of "progress."
 
2014-07-31 11:01:29 PM  
Actually...

The CIA spied on the Senate body in charge of overseeing the CIA, the Senate Intelligence Committee, while it's members were investigating and writing a report on the CIA's illegal torture program.

The stunning admission follows a scathing, 40-minute speech by Senate Intelligence Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein on the Senate floor back in March, in which she accused the CIA of secretly accessing her panel's computers that were used to review documents related to the government's torture, detention, and rendition policies deployed during George W. Bush's presidency. The powerful California Democrat lacerated the CIA for attempting to impede her panel's investigation and charged the agency with possibly violating the Constitution.

At the time, CIA director Brennan denied Feinstein's accusations, telling NBC News reporter Andrea Mitchell, "As far as the allegations of the CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth.... That's beyond the scope of reason."


Meanwhile, the CIA came up with false charges that the members of the Intelligence Committee had illegally removed documents from a secure facility. Then they referred those false charges to Holder.

MyRandomName: Holder needs to bring charges.


Holder has already announced that he is not bringing charges, which should shock absolutely nobody who has looked at his record of prosecuting the rich and powerful.

What we need is a special investigator outside of the Justice Department. This shiat is a serious threat to the Constitution.
 
2014-07-31 11:03:20 PM  
Now here is a money quote from the ACLU:

"These latest developments are only the most recent manifestations of a CIA that seems to believe that it is above and beyond the law," Christopher Anders, ACLU's senior legislative counsel, said in a statement. "An uncontrolled-and seemingly uncontrollable-CIA threatens the very foundations of our Constitution."
 
2014-07-31 11:04:58 PM  
It's only illegal if you get caught.
 
2014-07-31 11:07:35 PM  
This whole sordid affair reminds me of reading about the Soviet political power structure during the Cold War. Essentially, it came down to this: power was shared more or less equally by the Party, the KGB and the Military. Any two could gang up on the third to ensure it didn't get too powerful, but each held its own power, controlled its own budget and was immune to attacks from any other single leg of the triad.

In our present scenario, we have Congress, the Administration, and the Security Organs (not-obscure Cold War reference). The Courts and Military are staying out of this one so far. CIA has been caught red-handed stirring the shiat over at the Senate, who are now demanding accountability. The Senate is demanding blood, but they won't have the send in the Spetsnaz to arrest and shoot BeriaBrennan. A few low level functionaries will be reprimanded...possibly fired, but no one will go to prison, and the Senate will get assurances it won't happen again.

Not even the President can control the NSA and CIA. Sure, Brennan had to personally apologize to Feinstein and what's-his-face, and for that a few heads will roll, but it's not like Congress is actually going to curtail the NSA and CIA's activities, cut their budget or "reign them in". LOL...don't make me laugh.
 
2014-07-31 11:21:18 PM  
Imagine this thread in 2006. There would be a little infinity symbol. Holder is refusing to bring charges. He refuses to do his job. Liberals just hide.
 
2014-07-31 11:22:31 PM  
Are you a troll or just butthurt?
 
2014-07-31 11:27:03 PM  
I remember when this sort of thing was a paranoid conspiracy theory.

Of course there will be no apologies issued to people who have been saying the CIA spies on the legislative branch for decades.
 
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