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(Chicago Trib)   "Last fall, Obama did nearly everything he could to be thrown into the briar patch of a government shutdown in order to denounce the Republicans for shutting down the government." Helpful analysis of the GOP's decision to sue the President   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 177
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2014-07-31 10:40:05 AM  
Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?
 
2014-07-31 10:48:00 AM  
"You encouraged us to do a stupid thing in order to point out to everyone else that we did a stupid thing!"

...that's not their defense, right?  Right??
 
2014-07-31 11:03:29 AM  

Chariset: "You encouraged us to do a stupid thing in order to point out to everyone else that we did a stupid thing!"

...that's not their defense, right?  Right??


Don't make me hit you...
 
2014-07-31 11:15:15 AM  
As usual, Jonah Goldberg is a day late and a dollar short.
 
2014-07-31 11:23:26 AM  
It's been a long time since I've seen it, but isn't Song of the South fairly racist?
 
2014-07-31 11:38:02 AM  
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!
Stop throwing yourself in the briar patch!

/yea, i so stole that
 
2014-07-31 11:39:49 AM  
No matter what, it's Obama and the Democrats' fault. This is the party of responsibility. It's down to branding at this point, and it's this sort of rigorous intellectual honesty that caused my break with the party.

I reiterate that the concept of karma needs to be taught far wider. Karma. Action. That's all it means. Actions have consequences. Not some Cosmic Balancing Force. Not good will come from good and bad will follow bad, but actions have consequences. Words spoken and words withheld have consequences. Blaming others for your own actions, your own words is pretty much an abdication of any sense of responsibility. "They made us do these things!" is just an excuse. And excuses are like assh*les, everyone has 'em, and pretty much to the last, they all stink...
 
2014-07-31 11:48:35 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: It's been a long time since I've seen it, but isn't Song of the South fairly racist?


Not really any more or less than any other human written Song and Dance Movie.
All humans are racists and so much more.
You would not be here if, at the core, humans were not ultra competitive and locked into "knowing" they are "better" than every other human with any distinguishing difference. Sometimes not even a visible or aural difference, but entirely perceived.
You are born hard wired to be what we call "racist". Then you are raised racist by a society passing along it's collective distinctions.
At some point in maturing you may intellectually, as a higher order process, alter your behavior, your speach, successfully cover up your knee jerk Weeners.
Not all humans make this switch successfully.

Like beauty, racism is ALL in the mind of the beholder/offended.
 
2014-07-31 11:50:59 AM  
apparently "weeners" is weeners.
Who knew?
 
2014-07-31 11:58:41 AM  

ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?


Indeed. Looks like someones been reading Hope N' Change Cartoons, the worst political Webcomic since Day by Day.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-31 11:58:45 AM  
*reads headline* "WTF?"
*clicks link* "By Jonah Goldberg"

*closes tab*

This is painfully stupid stuff, subby.
 
2014-07-31 12:02:32 PM  

hubiestubert: No matter what, it's Obama and the Democrats' fault. This is the party of responsibility. It's down to branding at this point, and it's this sort of rigorous intellectual honesty that caused my break with the party.

I reiterate that the concept of karma needs to be taught far wider. Karma. Action. That's all it means. Actions have consequences. Not some Cosmic Balancing Force. Not good will come from good and bad will follow bad, but actions have consequences. Words spoken and words withheld have consequences. Blaming others for your own actions, your own words is pretty much an abdication of any sense of responsibility. "They made us do these things!" is just an excuse. And excuses are like assh*les, everyone has 'em, and pretty much to the last, they all stink...


They've previously blamed the Democrats for not stopping them from breaking stuff, so personal responsibility* wins again.


*personal responsibility doesn't mean actual responsibility, it only applies as far as saying "my bad" and does not mean accepting actual consequences of actions. Conservatives, Republicans in particular, don't believe in consequences of actions or words. If they did, they wouldn't be conservatives and they certainly wouldn't subscribe to their stupid failed ideology.
 
2014-07-31 12:12:36 PM  
He's wasted so much of his presidency demonizing political opponents as deranged radicals who need to shut up and get in line.

1. He hasn't.
2. They are.
 
2014-07-31 12:17:08 PM  
Because they're perpetual sniveling, whining, puerile victims of their own stupidity?
 
2014-07-31 12:21:06 PM  
Jonah Goldberg is as dumb as his readers
 
2014-07-31 12:25:17 PM  

Heliovdrake: ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?

Indeed. Looks like someones been reading Hope N' Change Cartoons, the worst political Webcomic since Day by Day.

[i.imgur.com image 503x877]


That's...WTF is that?
 
2014-07-31 12:32:36 PM  
I would have paid good money to watch Christopher Hitchens beat Jonah Goldberg with a claw hammer back when the crotchety old genius was still alive.
 
2014-07-31 12:39:15 PM  
"By: Jonah Goldberg"

Oh goddammit, but I already clicked the link, so...

"But what is interesting about these emails is the transparent glee. Far more than Republicans, Democrats love talking about impeachment."

Yes, because Republicans would never make hay out of something their opponent said and try to spin its meaning and use it for political/fundraising purposes:

i2.cdn.turner.com

"Even now [Obama] is thumping the podium about "economic patriotism," as if loyalty to his views on taxation is the only proof of 100 percent Americanism."

Because no Republican would ever opine about what is and is not truly American:

www.bobsamerica.com

"Last fall, Obama did nearly everything he could to be thrown into the briar patch of a government shutdown in order to denounce the Republicans for shutting down the government."

I seem to recall someone saying that the shutdown was "exactly what we wanted" I'm not sure I can remember which party she belongs to:

s2.hubimg.com

TL;DR - STFU you disingenuous hack.
 
2014-07-31 12:41:19 PM  
A briar patch?

Im not touching *this* tar baby!
 
2014-07-31 01:07:22 PM  

Heliovdrake: ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?

Indeed. Looks like someones been reading Hope N' Change Cartoons, the worst political Webcomic since Day by Day.

[i.imgur.com image 503x877]


Dear God, it's painful. :/

I don't understand how so many conservatives ... I mean, even READING THE TEXT makes my brain hurt.  Just the way it's constructed.  The choice of words.  The cadence.  I'm half expecting spittle to fly out of my monitor.  Now, I can read stuff from (for example) Sen. Collins and former Sen. Snowe, and my brain's perfectly fine.  But THIS...

I guess I just don't "get it" because I don't operate on that wavelength.

/and that wavelength band is VLF.  If you're lucky.
 
2014-07-31 01:31:06 PM  

ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?


Saved me a click, I owe you one.
 
2014-07-31 01:31:55 PM  
Who's fault is it for Republican actions? - OBAMA!

"Republican responsibility" - we are not responsible for our own actions!!
 
2014-07-31 01:33:54 PM  

dr_blasto: They've previously blamed the Democrats for not stopping them from breaking stuff, so personal responsibility* wins again.


It's "Republican Personal Responsibilitytm" - where DEMOCRATS are personally responsible for Republican actions.
 
2014-07-31 01:36:36 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: It's been a long time since I've seen it, but isn't Song of the South fairly racist?


i.imgur.com

It's not really any more or less racist than any other human written Song and Dance Movie that includes stereotypical blacks in the "it's always sunny in the Reconstruction" South who live only to satisfy the casual whims of whites.
 
2014-07-31 01:36:55 PM  
So...Obama played the GOP like a fiddle? Again?
 
2014-07-31 01:37:31 PM  
The GOP sounds like my 5 year old when she is trying to get out of trouble for doing something she was told not to do.
 
2014-07-31 01:37:45 PM  
Personal responsibility applies to the following groups:

Poors
Blacks
Pregnant women
Browns

They don't mean their personal responsibility.
 
2014-07-31 01:38:38 PM  

ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?


Bit of a stretch to call that a "dog-whistle", though he should know by now that Br'er Rabbit references don't resonate very well outside of his echo chamber.
 
2014-07-31 01:39:11 PM  
I seem to recall the GOP taking turns telling Ted Cruz he was a farking buffoon for orchestrating the shut down.
 
2014-07-31 01:39:37 PM  

hubiestubert: No matter what, it's Obama and the Democrats' fault. This is the party of responsibility. It's down to branding at this point, and it's this sort of rigorous intellectual honesty that caused my break with the party.

I reiterate that the concept of karma needs to be taught far wider. Karma. Action. That's all it means. Actions have consequences. Not some Cosmic Balancing Force. Not good will come from good and bad will follow bad, but actions have consequences. Words spoken and words withheld have consequences. Blaming others for your own actions, your own words is pretty much an abdication of any sense of responsibility. "They made us do these things!" is just an excuse. And excuses are like assh*les, everyone has 'em, and pretty much to the last, they all stink...


According to the "Party of Personal Responsibility," it's always - always - somebody else's fault. And that somebody is always a boogeyman they've constructed to substitute for the real person.
 
2014-07-31 01:39:55 PM  
By Jonah Goldberg

Oh for goodness sakes
 
2014-07-31 01:40:24 PM  
So, if I'm getting this vibe correct, basically the right wing defense for the last 6 years (and coming two years) is going to be "well, we only did it because, well, HE DIDN'T TELL US NOT TO DO IT!"?  "Blame the President because we're asshats who have held no point of ignorance as too over the top to write on the wall in our own shiat?"

That's what they're going with?
 
2014-07-31 01:44:16 PM  
It doesn't matter that he said no, we know he really wanted it.
 
2014-07-31 01:45:14 PM  

Heliovdrake: ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?

Indeed. Looks like someones been reading Hope N' Change Cartoons, the worst political Webcomic since Day by Day.


Trying to wrap my head around the the fact that something as racist as that accuses Obama of playing the race card. How is is possible to be that lacking is self-awareness?
 
2014-07-31 01:45:37 PM  
 
2014-07-31 01:45:40 PM  
FTFA:Given Obama's famously low regard for the Clinton presidency, it's ironic that he keeps stealing from its playbook. Former President Bill Clinton benefited from a government shutdown and impeachment and from the general perception that his enemies were worse than his sins. The difference is that while Clinton was hardly immune to the charge of cynicism, he wasn't trying to shut down the government or get impeached for narrow political advantage.

I hear a lot of Republicans making this point a lot lately. Alzheimer's is not something to make fun of or laugh at. That's why it's more than a little more than concerning that it seems to be spreading at an alarming rate in the GOP. Apparently no one seems to remember that whole "party of no" thing, or the fact that the GOP's emergency plan for the last 20+ years has been "if the Dem's win fair and square, take out the player"
 
2014-07-31 01:45:50 PM  
In terms of whipped-up urgency aimed at low-information voters, there's nothing special about these importuning missives.

So true.
 
2014-07-31 01:46:37 PM  
Only Republicans are allowed to use impeachment in their fundraising appeals. Because reasons.
 
2014-07-31 01:46:44 PM  
Shut up and PASS THE tar baby
 
2014-07-31 01:47:06 PM  
Doughy Pant Load says what?
 
2014-07-31 01:48:06 PM  
Want to post IMAX projector picture, but I don't think it's big enough...
 
2014-07-31 01:48:29 PM  
In other words.

"Stop me from hitting myself!"
 
2014-07-31 01:48:58 PM  

qorkfiend: So...Obama played the GOP like a fiddle? Again?


No, Clinton played the GOP like a fiddle.  He crushed them and mocked them and many many things got done. And there was beautiful music.
President Obama is playing them like a kazoo.  He crushes and mocke them and absolutely nothing is getting done.  There is just discordant noise.
 
2014-07-31 01:49:02 PM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: So, if I'm getting this vibe correct, basically the right wing defense for the last 6 years (and coming two years) is going to be "well, we only did it because, well, HE DIDN'T TELL US NOT TO DO IT!"?  "Blame the President because we're asshats who have held no point of ignorance as too over the top to write on the wall in our own shiat?"

That's what they're going with?


If they think it'll stick -- and bear in mind, they  know their supporters have the memory of a hydrocephalic goldfish -- that's what they're going to go with.
 
2014-07-31 01:49:43 PM  

GoldSpider: ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?

Bit of a stretch to call that a "dog-whistle", though he should know by now that Br'er Rabbit references don't resonate very well outside of his echo chamber.


So, a dog-whistle.

thismomentinblackhistory: ginandbacon: Briar patch? Really? Dog-whistle much, Jonah?

Saved me a click, I owe you one.


I like gin. And bacon. Either would do. But I also like you so this one's on me.
 
2014-07-31 01:49:47 PM  
Obama encouraged me to lick doorknobs, and now I've got the Ebola! Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-07-31 01:50:02 PM  
What color is the sky in the Republicans' world?
 
2014-07-31 01:51:27 PM  
Was it because of this?

oi60.tinypic.com
 
2014-07-31 01:52:09 PM  

Mad Scientist: What color is the sky in the Republicans' world?


Definitely not brown
 
2014-07-31 01:52:29 PM  
i457.photobucket.com
 
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