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2014-07-31 10:07:25 AM  
Lester out
 
2014-07-31 10:13:31 AM  
Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.
 
2014-07-31 10:13:50 AM  
Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?
 
2014-07-31 10:16:14 AM  

regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?


Oh, the A's are going all in. And Lester is lighting it up.

I hope Lester picks up another ring.
 
2014-07-31 10:19:45 AM  
WIKI page aready updated:
Yoenis Céspedes Milanés (born October 18, 1985) is a Cuban professional baseball outfielder with the Boston Red Sox of Major League Baseball in the United States
 
2014-07-31 10:19:58 AM  

Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.


yes sir!  If Lester was never coming back, they got a LF with a gun for an arm and who has more HR this year than the entire Sox OF combined (let that sink in).  IF it's a rental, and Lester comes back and the Sox get Cespedes for next year as well (he's a FA after next, right?) then Ben C. looks pretty damn smart.
 
2014-07-31 10:20:46 AM  
You know, I know the Royals aren't going to do shiat. I know this because Dayton Moore says we don't need more hitting like every day, and maybe he's incapable of understanding stats and really means it, and he's extended through '16 anyway so why should he care?

But it still pisses me off.
 
2014-07-31 10:24:43 AM  
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11290302/jon-lester-traded-o a kland-athletics-yoenis-cespedes-boston-red-sox

A's got farked in that deal, holy crap.They already have an insane rotation, and Cespedes is under team control for a few more years. Not only that, he has a cannon for an arm and is really good offensively.
 
2014-07-31 10:27:41 AM  

regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?


My guess: the A's can afford to give up their 5th or 6th best bat (this year) and need the extra pitching to match up with Detroit.
 
2014-07-31 10:29:32 AM  

regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?


In the article (I know reading is for sissies), they said that Lester is great in the postseason, not Jeff Samalamadingdong that came from the Cubs hasn't been that good, and losing Cespedes' bat will not be devastating.

//Glad the Brewers didn't give up Jimmy Nelson for 10+ starts from Lester. Hope we can do something worthwhile though.
 
2014-07-31 10:30:08 AM  
As an O's fan, I'm torn. I would have loved to have added Lester to our pen, but not at the cost (both cash and players) it would have required.
 
2014-07-31 10:30:45 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?

My guess: the A's can afford to give up their 5th or 6th best bat (this year) and need the extra pitching to match up with Detroit.


For Cespedes, it's a boost to his numbers getting out of O.co and into Fenway.
 
2014-07-31 10:31:13 AM  
Damn, I am not a fan of this deal whatsoever. Didn't want Lester going to a team I like, didn't want Cespedes going to a team I don't like. Grr.
 
2014-07-31 10:32:42 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: pen


rotation
 
2014-07-31 10:33:15 AM  

idesofmarch: Damn, I am not a fan of this deal whatsoever. Didn't want Lester going to a team I like, didn't want Cespedes going to a team I don't like. Grr.


This.  The Yanks need a bat...and frankly getting Matt Kemp would've been ideal.

Doubt the Dodgers would part with him unless they get something vital in return.
 
2014-07-31 10:34:18 AM  

swankywanky: Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.

yes sir!  If Lester was never coming back, they got a LF with a gun for an arm and who has more HR this year than the entire Sox OF combined (let that sink in).  IF it's a rental, and Lester comes back and the Sox get Cespedes for next year as well (he's a FA after next, right?) then Ben C. looks pretty damn smart.


Lester even said he wants to come back to Boston. Oh, He'll be back.

Now Lacky, they better keep Lacky locked up.
 
2014-07-31 10:35:35 AM  

Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.


No chance.  Unless there's a really big hometown discount.  If the Sox "brain" trust wanted him, he'd be signed already.
 
2014-07-31 10:35:53 AM  

Rwa2play: The Yanks need a bat...and frankly getting Matt Kemp would've been ideal.


No way, do not want. The Yankees have enough players who are constantly on the DL.
 
2014-07-31 10:37:57 AM  

Publikwerks: swankywanky: Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.

yes sir!  If Lester was never coming back, they got a LF with a gun for an arm and who has more HR this year than the entire Sox OF combined (let that sink in).  IF it's a rental, and Lester comes back and the Sox get Cespedes for next year as well (he's a FA after next, right?) then Ben C. looks pretty damn smart.

Lester even said he wants to come back to Boston. Oh, He'll be back.

Now Lacky, they better keep Lacky locked up.


Lackey should be gone today as well.  He wants out.
 
2014-07-31 10:40:38 AM  

wooden_badger: Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.

No chance.  Unless there's a really big hometown discount.  If the Sox "brain" trust wanted him, he'd be signed already.


I think the ownership knows they blew it with their first offer, and once the season started to tank, both sides knew it made sense to table it until next year, because it left open the rental possibility.

I mean, they can still blow it, but I think they get it done in the offseason.
 
2014-07-31 10:42:02 AM  

roc6783: regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?

In the article (I know reading is for sissies), they said that Lester is great in the postseason, not Jeff Samalamadingdong that came from the Cubs hasn't been that good, and losing Cespedes' bat will not be devastating.

//Glad the Brewers didn't give up Jimmy Nelson for 10+ starts from Lester. Hope we can do something worthwhile though.


Same here with the Brewers. Try to find some good bench players and maybe a reliever and know that Brewers fans will burn down Miller Park if they trade Nelson
 
2014-07-31 10:46:55 AM  
I'm not so sure Lester goes back.  I know he had spent his whole career there, but he had been screwed over and slapped in the face time and time again.  I was hoping St Louis would have acquired him, but I'm glad they didn't at that cost.  I think Boston comes out smelling like a rose, and if they can get him back, even better.  I really thought Seattle would have found a way to get it done the way they've been throwing money around lately--and Lester is a Tacoma boy.
 
2014-07-31 10:46:58 AM  
Sad as it is now, I think I'll be disappointed if Lester comes back and gets that rumored 5 year / $140 million deal to be a 31-35 year old "good" pitcher in Boston.
 
2014-07-31 10:50:58 AM  
Now I'm curious to see what, if anything, Houston does.  They've got some good young starters, and veteran relievers all with some team control.  I was mildly surprised to see them throw Chris Carter out there as he is their second most valuable hitter on the active roster and Lunhow stating that he wants MLB ready hitting in exchange for pitching.
 
2014-07-31 10:53:57 AM  
Rwa2play:
For Cespedes, it's a boost to his numbers getting out of O.co and into Fenway.

It'll be good to see another strong right-handed bat out there.  They needed that badly.
 
2014-07-31 10:54:15 AM  

eagles95: roc6783: regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?

In the article (I know reading is for sissies), they said that Lester is great in the postseason, not Jeff Samalamadingdong that came from the Cubs hasn't been that good, and losing Cespedes' bat will not be devastating.

//Glad the Brewers didn't give up Jimmy Nelson for 10+ starts from Lester. Hope we can do something worthwhile though.

Same here with the Brewers. Try to find some good bench players and maybe a reliever and know that Brewers fans will burn down Miller Park if they trade Nelson


If they traded Nelson and got 3 years from Clayton Kershaw, I would be ok with it, but a few starts from Lester would make me want to grab a torch.

//Wonder what Jerry Hairston is up to? Anyone have his number?
 
2014-07-31 10:54:59 AM  
Phillies will be trading no one, and resigning Ryan Howard to an $Eleventy-Billion forever contract.
 
2014-07-31 10:58:59 AM  
If Hammel hadn't been terrible, this wouldn't have happened. It's too bad, really - now they've gotten rid of Milone, too, and dumping Hammel to bring up Milone probably would have made much more sense baseball-wise, but not in a trade-value sense.
 
2014-07-31 10:59:43 AM  
Sounds like the A's got caught up in a bidding war with Lester. Still, if they win it all or even just get to the WS, I think it's worth it.
 
2014-07-31 10:59:51 AM  
I heard mention of a dozen teams who might wind up getting Lester. The As weren't one of them. I'm a little surprised. I approve, but I'll miss Lester. I'm with the others saying he probably won't be going back to Boston, sadly.
 
2014-07-31 11:06:50 AM  

roc6783: eagles95: roc6783: regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?

In the article (I know reading is for sissies), they said that Lester is great in the postseason, not Jeff Samalamadingdong that came from the Cubs hasn't been that good, and losing Cespedes' bat will not be devastating.

//Glad the Brewers didn't give up Jimmy Nelson for 10+ starts from Lester. Hope we can do something worthwhile though.

Same here with the Brewers. Try to find some good bench players and maybe a reliever and know that Brewers fans will burn down Miller Park if they trade Nelson

If they traded Nelson and got 3 years from Clayton Kershaw, I would be ok with it, but a few starts from Lester would make me want to grab a torch.

//Wonder what Jerry Hairston is up to? Anyone have his number?


Maybe we can trade Weeks for a bag of balls. Then flip the bag of balls for a backup 1B
 
2014-07-31 11:07:14 AM  
Interesting move.

I wanna see how bad Cespedes demolishes Fenway.
 
2014-07-31 11:08:30 AM  
I think Beane is overestimating what that offense can do in the playoffs. They're an odd offense, they shouldn't have as many runs as they do by every other number they put up. Really awkward trade.
 
2014-07-31 11:09:21 AM  
Oakland knows pitching wins in the playoffs, they're amassing SP depth so they can be sure to have 3 front line starters to use. Lester, Samardz, Gray, and maybe Kazmir or Hammels if they're going good. The trade is worth it if they win the WS, and they are going for broke to do that. I don't blame them, the move makes sense at this point for a team like Oakland. Yes, they mortgaged their future a bit, but who knows when they'll have such a good chance to win a title again, best to go all out.
 
2014-07-31 11:10:31 AM  
I'm sure the Tigers will make a move today... and they'll probably send the A's packing this postseason.
 
2014-07-31 11:20:37 AM  

swankywanky: Publikwerks: Yoenis Cespedes for Lester(Rental)+Gomes? Yes please.

//Sox will get Lester back in a couple of months.

yes sir!  If Lester was never coming back, they got a LF with a gun for an arm and who has more HR this year than the entire Sox OF combined (let that sink in).  IF it's a rental, and Lester comes back and the Sox get Cespedes for next year as well (he's a FA after next, right?) then Ben C. looks pretty damn smart.


I think the Red Sox played their hand already. They are scared to pay anyone big $$ anymore after the Crawford and Gonzalez disasters. If the Red Sox offer him anything in the offseason, it will be mainly for PR.
 
2014-07-31 11:24:37 AM  

eagles95: Maybe we can trade Weeks for a bag of balls. Then flip the bag of balls for a backup 1B


How about trade Wooten for a 50% off a car wash coupon?
 
2014-07-31 11:30:37 AM  
Whether Lester comes back or not, this is a smart move for the sox. I'd love to see him and his sub 3 era back, but if not there are plenty of young pitchers in the system. Maybe if they don't get Lester back they can use all that extra money to send Buchholz to a psychiatrist so they figure out why a guy with the nastiest stuff on the team can't climb out of mediocrity.
 
2014-07-31 11:31:43 AM  
Holy cow! the A's got boned on that deal!
 
2014-07-31 11:35:52 AM  
I was finding it amusing that people in Pittsburgh were actually thinking the Pirates had any real shot at Lester. The Red Sox would have wanted our entire farm system.
 
2014-07-31 11:38:36 AM  

WhackingDay: I was finding it amusing that people in Pittsburgh were actually thinking the Pirates had any real shot at Lester. The Red Sox would have wanted our entire farm system.


I thought the Pirates were a farm system for the Yankees?
 
2014-07-31 11:39:46 AM  

mikaloyd: WhackingDay: I was finding it amusing that people in Pittsburgh were actually thinking the Pirates had any real shot at Lester. The Red Sox would have wanted our entire farm system.

I thought the Pirates were a farm system for the Yankees?


Yes, we were
 
2014-07-31 11:39:48 AM  

mikaloyd: WhackingDay: I was finding it amusing that people in Pittsburgh were actually thinking the Pirates had any real shot at Lester. The Red Sox would have wanted our entire farm system.

I thought the Pirates were a farm system for the Yankees?


Worse. The Cubs.
 
2014-07-31 11:40:28 AM  

eagles95: roc6783: eagles95: roc6783: regindyn: Admittedly dumb about baseball, but why would the A's trade Cespedes?  And how did the best team in baseball need 3 new starting pitchers for the stretch run?

In the article (I know reading is for sissies), they said that Lester is great in the postseason, not Jeff Samalamadingdong that came from the Cubs hasn't been that good, and losing Cespedes' bat will not be devastating.

//Glad the Brewers didn't give up Jimmy Nelson for 10+ starts from Lester. Hope we can do something worthwhile though.

Same here with the Brewers. Try to find some good bench players and maybe a reliever and know that Brewers fans will burn down Miller Park if they trade Nelson

If they traded Nelson and got 3 years from Clayton Kershaw, I would be ok with it, but a few starts from Lester would make me want to grab a torch.

//Wonder what Jerry Hairston is up to? Anyone have his number?

Maybe we can trade Weeks for a bag of balls. Then flip the bag of balls for a backup 1B


I hate your face.

/I just imagined a certain host on 1250am reacting to the Crew trading for a third 1B, and I cannot stop laughing.
 
2014-07-31 11:40:42 AM  

Richard Sauce: Oakland knows pitching wins in the playoffs, they're amassing SP depth so they can be sure to have 3 front line starters to use. Lester, Samardz, Gray, and maybe Kazmir or Hammels if they're going good. The trade is worth it if they win the WS, and they are going for broke to do that. I don't blame them, the move makes sense at this point for a team like Oakland. Yes, they mortgaged their future a bit, but who knows when they'll have such a good chance to win a title again, best to go all out.


From what I understand, there was little chance the A's were going to get to keep Cespedes when he went to free agency after 2015 anyway. Consider also that the A's offense is a good 80 R ahead of their main challenger - the Angels - and it's easy to see why they were willing to consider moving one of their big bats to shore up their pitching. Good pitching will both win you games and make a high-powered offense less necessary, and the three-ace firewall the A's have built up is going to be of enormous value come playoff time.
 
2014-07-31 11:41:29 AM  

qorkfiend: Richard Sauce: Oakland knows pitching wins in the playoffs, they're amassing SP depth so they can be sure to have 3 front line starters to use. Lester, Samardz, Gray, and maybe Kazmir or Hammels if they're going good. The trade is worth it if they win the WS, and they are going for broke to do that. I don't blame them, the move makes sense at this point for a team like Oakland. Yes, they mortgaged their future a bit, but who knows when they'll have such a good chance to win a title again, best to go all out.

From what I understand, there was little chance the A's were going to get to keep Cespedes when he went to free agency after 2015 anyway. Consider also that the A's offense is a good 80 R ahead of their main challenger - the Angels - and it's easy to see why they were willing to consider moving one of their big bats to shore up their pitching. Good pitching will both win you games and make a high-powered offense less necessary, and the three-ace firewall the A's have built up is going to be of enormous value come playoff time.


In run differential, that is, not runs scored.
 
2014-07-31 11:41:35 AM  

machoprogrammer: eagles95: Maybe we can trade Weeks for a bag of balls. Then flip the bag of balls for a backup 1B

How about trade Wooten for a 50% off a car wash coupon?


Throw in one of those pine tree air fresheners and we are golden.
 
2014-07-31 11:43:47 AM  

mikaloyd: Holy cow! the A's got boned on that deal!


You have to think they feel a lot better going toward the playoffs with a 3-man rotation of Kazmir (L)/ Gray (R) / Lester (L)
But you're right, in about 4 months they'll have nothing to show for it unless they win it all.

And don't forget about Jonny Gomes, man.  He's gritty.  Brings that lunch pail to work every day.  Team player.  Clubhouse guy!
/But seriously, he does mash left-handed pitching.
 
2014-07-31 11:44:25 AM  

roc6783: machoprogrammer: eagles95: Maybe we can trade Weeks for a bag of balls. Then flip the bag of balls for a backup 1B

How about trade Wooten for a 50% off a car wash coupon?

Throw in one of those pine tree air fresheners and we are golden.


HOLD UP!!! Basic wash or the one where they armor all the tires?
 
2014-07-31 11:47:52 AM  
And the Mariners will get nothing and like it!
 
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