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(NBC News)   Just in case you were wondering, John Kerry picked up some cool rugs while he was in the Middle East failing to broker a ceasefire in Gaza   (nbcnews.com) divider line 48
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2014-07-31 09:35:51 AM  
I was really hopeful that was a euphemism.
 
2014-07-31 09:52:24 AM  
Fun fact: India is not in the Middle East.
 
2014-07-31 09:59:42 AM  
This means Obama is impeached and Romney is automatically emperor.
 
2014-07-31 10:00:17 AM  
The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?
 
2014-07-31 10:30:34 AM  
John Kerry cant fix the Arab Israeli conflict, therefore he is consigned to a room at the Howard Johnson's in Calcutta and may eat only porridge.
 
2014-07-31 10:36:23 AM  

SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-31 10:46:50 AM  

SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?


It goads the Israelis into Hulk Smash mode, garnering sympathy for the Pawnestinians at the UN and whatnot, which is reasonable.  Of course it also is encouraging more arms support from sympathetic Muslim states and outside groups, so that they can keep Israel's dander and resolve up.

It is such an antithetical-to-Western strategy of just pushing out your civilians to slaughter as a bargaining chip, it is really difficult to wrap my head around it.  But it seems to work.
 
2014-07-31 10:48:55 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I was really hopeful that was a euphemism.


Believe it or not, many of my fellow servicemen, shipped to the area to blow up the locals and whatnot also took advantage of the retail opportunities.  Gold jewelry, rugs, tailored suits, definitely-not-Cuban cigars, stuff like that.  The world kept spinning somehow.
 
2014-07-31 11:01:46 AM  

factoryconnection: Believe it or not, many of my fellow servicemen, shipped to the area to blow up the locals and whatnot also took advantage of the retail opportunities. Gold jewelry, rugs, tailored suits, definitely-not-Cuban cigars, stuff like that. The world kept spinning somehow.


I picked up my share in various souks, and have a small "real-real fake' collection that I named after the conversation with scouts in the market in Dubai, who would wander through the crowds approaching white folk.
Scout - "You want Rolex? You want Gucci?"
Me: "Is it real?"
Scout : "Yeah, yeah. Real real fake Rolex. Real real fake Gucci. Come on."

90 per cent of the stuff in the souks is overpriced crap, but if you have a local guide, you can either find high-quality versions of whatever you want at a remarkably good price or have something made to order if they don't have it on hand.

/CSB
 
2014-07-31 11:12:38 AM  

SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?


Some people just want to watch the world burn.
 
2014-07-31 11:20:42 AM  
SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state. I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?

I think they ideally want Israel to NOT be a state.  Which is unreasonable, but not too different from how the Israelis feel about a Palestinian state.
 
2014-07-31 11:24:41 AM  
i.imgflip.com
 
2014-07-31 11:26:13 AM  
Good, the one he wears now isn't convincing at all.
 
2014-07-31 11:29:44 AM  
Lindsey Graham: "If Kerry paid more than 5 bucks for 5 rugs he got ripped off."
 
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2014-07-31 11:46:37 AM  

SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?


They must just be idiots because the fact that what the Israelis say they were planning to do makes no sense couldn't possibly mean that the whole plot is made up propaganda.
 
2014-07-31 12:33:24 PM  
More transparent partisanship from the media.  Why, it's a well-known fact that Henry Kissinger habitually spent several thousand dollars at Victoria's Secret after each trip to the Middle East, and Richard Nixon personally approved the purchase of a pair of Montenegrin child prostitutes after meeting with Anwar Sadat.  The secretary of state under George W. Bush, Condoleezza Rice, was also said to have picked up several kilograms of Turkish Hashish on each trip to the area, although she claimed this was strictly for official use by the office of the President.  Of course, you'll never see this on the mainstream news.
 
2014-07-31 01:00:22 PM  

quatchi: Lindsey Graham: "If Kerry paid more than 5 bucks for 5 rugs he got ripped off."


What would Graham know about rugs, beyond McCain's merkin?
 
2014-07-31 01:00:48 PM  
Were they nice rugs?
 
2014-07-31 01:02:09 PM  

AeAe: Were they nice rugs?


They do tie the whole room together, so....
 
2014-07-31 01:09:01 PM  
Those are nice rugs. I especially like the blue one.
 
2014-07-31 01:14:34 PM  

JerseyTim: Fun fact: India is not in the Middle East.


Are they brown? Then it's the middle east according to most americans.
 
2014-07-31 01:16:03 PM  

JerseyTim: Fun fact: India is not in the Middle East.


Fun Fact: They don't farking care anymore. , they never have.

Whew! FTFM...
 
2014-07-31 01:17:37 PM  

exparrot: AeAe: Were they nice rugs?

They do tie the whole room together, so....


Kinda smells like pee
 
2014-07-31 01:20:19 PM  
I am no fan of John Kerry, but what the Hell is he supposed to do?  There's no way you can successfully negotiate in this situation.  The goals of both sides are diametrically opposed to each other.  On top of that, both sides have shown numerous times they aren't negotiating in good faith.

The only way you ever get peace between Israel and Palestine is a huge societal shift and a complete restructuring of both governments, something the US can't do.
 
2014-07-31 01:20:40 PM  
So he's a better shopper than he is a secretary of state?
 
2014-07-31 01:21:58 PM  

B.J. Cummings: exparrot: AeAe: Were they nice rugs?

They do tie the whole room together, so....

Kinda smells like pee


Was it a chinaman?
 
2014-07-31 01:26:25 PM  
Damn I hate NBC's site on a desktop.  Mobile design should stick to those devices.
 
2014-07-31 01:34:26 PM  

AeAe: B.J. Cummings: exparrot: AeAe: Were they nice rugs?

They do tie the whole room together, so....

Kinda smells like pee

Was it a chinaman?


Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian, please.
 
2014-07-31 01:34:50 PM  
Dear Palestinian, stop clinging to your rockets and korans and accept that the government (of Israel) knows what is best for you.
 
2014-07-31 01:40:01 PM  
I hope they were Smiling Carpet rugs.

He should know better, considering.
 
2014-07-31 01:45:28 PM  
This is Kerry's Benghazi!
 
2014-07-31 01:49:39 PM  
He could have bought some Indian rugs in Arizona.
 
2014-07-31 01:54:19 PM  

dryknife: He could have bought some Indian rugs in Arizona.


Dot, not feather.
 
2014-07-31 01:56:03 PM  
Rugs.... or seekrit muslin prayer carpets?
 
2014-07-31 02:01:41 PM  

vpb: SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.  I get that.  But exactly how does their foiled plot to sneak into Israel through those tunnels and murder a bunch of Israeli civilians on Rosh Hashanah advance that agenda?  How does that terror attack help them get their own state?

They must just be idiots because the fact that what the Israelis say they were planning to do makes no sense couldn't possibly mean that the whole plot is made up propaganda.


Implying that Israel would ever lie about such things means you are exactly the same as Hitler.
 
2014-07-31 02:32:30 PM  

sign_of_Zeta: I am no fan of John Kerry, but what the Hell is he supposed to do?  There's no way you can successfully negotiate in this situation.  The goals of both sides are diametrically opposed to each other.  On top of that, both sides have shown numerous times they aren't negotiating in good faith.

The only way you ever get peace between Israel and Palestine is a huge societal shift and a complete restructuring of both governments, something the US can't do.


Yeah, blaming somebody for not achieving peace in the Middle East is like blaming somebody for not being a supermodel/rocket scientist/Grammy winning musician/discoverer of a cure for cancer.
 
2014-07-31 02:52:39 PM  

Geotpf: sign_of_Zeta: I am no fan of John Kerry, but what the Hell is he supposed to do?  There's no way you can successfully negotiate in this situation.  The goals of both sides are diametrically opposed to each other.  On top of that, both sides have shown numerous times they aren't negotiating in good faith.

The only way you ever get peace between Israel and Palestine is a huge societal shift and a complete restructuring of both governments, something the US can't do.

Yeah, blaming somebody for not achieving peace in the Middle East is like blaming somebody for not being a supermodel/rocket scientist/Grammy winning musician/discoverer of a cure for cancer.


Are you kidding me? Both sides are intransigent. It will take several generations before any real progress happens there. Hopefully they don't kill each other off before that happens.
 
2014-07-31 02:58:00 PM  

SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.


Israel will not let that happen.

"I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan." - Netanyahu
 
2014-07-31 04:01:52 PM  

AeAe: Geotpf: sign_of_Zeta: I am no fan of John Kerry, but what the Hell is he supposed to do?  There's no way you can successfully negotiate in this situation.  The goals of both sides are diametrically opposed to each other.  On top of that, both sides have shown numerous times they aren't negotiating in good faith.

The only way you ever get peace between Israel and Palestine is a huge societal shift and a complete restructuring of both governments, something the US can't do.

Yeah, blaming somebody for not achieving peace in the Middle East is like blaming somebody for not being a supermodel/rocket scientist/Grammy winning musician/discoverer of a cure for cancer.

Are you kidding me? Both sides are intransigent. It will take several generations before any real progress happens there. Hopefully they don't kill each other off before that happens.


Um, that was my exact point, unless you know lots of people who are supermodels/rocket scientists/Grammy winning musicians/discoverers of a cure for cancer.  Heck, most supermodels can't even spell "cancer".
 
2014-07-31 04:02:40 PM  

balthan: SlothB77: The Palestinians want a state.

Israel will not let that happen.

"I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan." - Netanyahu


So, the net result is war forever and ever amen.

Fark all the farking farkers (on both sides).
 
2014-07-31 04:30:49 PM  

Geotpf: AeAe: Geotpf: sign_of_Zeta: I am no fan of John Kerry, but what the Hell is he supposed to do?  There's no way you can successfully negotiate in this situation.  The goals of both sides are diametrically opposed to each other.  On top of that, both sides have shown numerous times they aren't negotiating in good faith.

The only way you ever get peace between Israel and Palestine is a huge societal shift and a complete restructuring of both governments, something the US can't do.

Yeah, blaming somebody for not achieving peace in the Middle East is like blaming somebody for not being a supermodel/rocket scientist/Grammy winning musician/discoverer of a cure for cancer.

Are you kidding me? Both sides are intransigent. It will take several generations before any real progress happens there. Hopefully they don't kill each other off before that happens.

Um, that was my exact point, unless you know lots of people who are supermodels/rocket scientists/Grammy winning musicians/discoverers of a cure for cancer.  Heck, most supermodels can't even spell "cancer".


I was agreeing with you. I should have phrased the first part better, but it sounded good in my head.  It was more of an incredulous statement.
 
2014-07-31 05:12:00 PM  
Hard to believe he didn't get that whole thing settled in a few hours. He's so weak and ineffective that he couldn't even resolve a centuries old conflict in a week! What a loser.

Probably Obama's fault. If he was a better President, the Middle East situation could have been resolved in 30 minutes INCLUDING commercials.
 
2014-07-31 07:56:47 PM  
Oh, wow, SlothB77, really?!

/this thread got shiat on early and hard
 
2014-07-31 08:32:58 PM  
You mean the just-announced 72-hour ceasefire announced by Kerry and the UN?
 
2014-07-31 08:46:22 PM  

LockeOak: You mean the just-announced 72-hour ceasefire announced by Kerry and the UN?


That doesn't count because shut up that's why.
 
2014-08-01 08:35:39 AM  

LockeOak: You mean the just-announced 72-hour ceasefire announced by Kerry and the UN?


Shocking it lasted like 2 hours.  Though again that's not really Kerry's fault.  Neither side was ever going to abide by it.
 
2014-08-01 09:10:11 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: Oh, wow, SlothB77, really?!

/this thread got shiat on early and hard


as far as shiatting on threads go, that is about as mild as i get.

LordJiro: Implying that Israel would ever lie about such things means you are exactly the same as Hitler.


then what are those tunnels there for?  why so many tunnels into Israeli territory.

vpb: They must just be idiots because the fact that what the Israelis say they were planning to do makes no sense couldn't possibly mean that the whole plot is made up propaganda.


but the whole 'Israel is blowing up UN schools' {which we are launching rockets out of} isn't.

Lionel Mandrake: I think they ideally want Israel to NOT be a state. Which is unreasonable, but not too different from how the Israelis feel about a Palestinian state.


Well, that's my point.  It is more important to them that Israel is not a state then that they have their own state.

Finally, I have a challenge for everyone:

Can you find a news piece about the *current* Gaza fighting - televised or print, doesn't matter - that shows images of Hamas/ Palestinian fighters/ soldiers/ militants. I can find news pieces that show IDF in uniform. I can find news pieces that show Palestinian women and children. I haven't seen one image of a Hamas militant in televised or print media. It is like they don't exist.  It must be from the current conflict.

If you can't find an image or video that show Hamas militants in news coverage, then one has to conclude the coverage has been biased.   that is a clear indication there is a media blackout on anything that puts the Palestinians in a negative light.

If you can, i'll admit I was wrong.  I can't find one.  But I am sure you farkers out there can.  Right?
 
2014-08-01 09:15:44 AM  
We know they're there: Someone's got to be launching those rockets into Israel (more than 2,800) and firing at invading Israeli troops. But so far the only images we've seen (or even heard about) are the Israel Defense Forces' videos of Hamas fighters using hospitals, ambulances, mosques and schools (and tunnels) to launch attacks against Israeli targets or ferry arms around Gaza.

Why haven't we seen journalists' photographs of Hamas fighters inside Gaza?

We know Hamas doesn't want the world to see images of Palestinian fighters launching rockets or using civilian havens like hospitals as bases of operation. But if we're able to see images from both sides of practically every other war - in Syria, in Ukraine, in Iraq - why is Gaza an exception?


IDF videos of Hamas don't count either.
 
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