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(Talking Points Memo)   "Why setting up state exchanges was so impossible in 36 states" Because they had mentally-challenged governors and state legislators 'governing' those states   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2014-07-31 07:53:09 AM  
Stop talking about Governor Kitzhaber that way!

/Oracle might be evil, but the state is clearly incompetent.
//Sad Oregonian.
 
2014-07-31 08:41:49 AM  
Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?
 
2014-07-31 08:56:00 AM  

DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?


No, actually, because it reinforces their perception that ACA was horrible legislation even though they did their darndest to make sure it COULDN'T work in their state.
 
2014-07-31 09:01:35 AM  

Ambivalence: DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?

No, actually, because it reinforces their perception that ACA was horrible legislation even though they did their darndest to make sure it COULDN'T work in their state.


Except now they will be subsiding it in the Blue states and not getting anything back. They pay and no play.
 
2014-07-31 09:05:30 AM  
Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.
 
2014-07-31 09:10:47 AM  
I think it has to do in some ways with a reversal of the "All politics is local" idea.

Rather than deciding what is in the best interest of the people in their state, these Red State governors can't be seen as siding with Obama.  Their citizens are paying the same tax rates as everyone else, they are just getting less in return.  But that's OK, as long as they aren't seen as supporting Obama's initiative.  And it's not necessarily just Obama.  They keep running against Pelosi, too.  I think the latest one I saw was the GOP guy that just won the primary in Georgia talking about how GA can't elect Sam Nunn's daughter to go to Washington to enact Nancy Pelosi's agenda.

And if all politics are now national, even those that should be local, I blame two things.  First, the 24-hour news cycle that has to inject bitterness, and has to do so mainly at the national level.  And money.  Why the fark would some Red State governor, who may not have national ambitions, care if he is labelled as supportive of an Obama initiative?  Because his reelection is going to cost money, and he needs a lot of it from the national party.
 
2014-07-31 09:12:29 AM  
He usually has a helmet and a juice box.

blogs.rj.org
 
2014-07-31 09:14:27 AM  

SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.


So, you're saying states not run by "far-left wackos" could've done a bang-up job, embarassing everyone else, but purposefully broke Federal law and chose not to?

Hmm, come to think of it, shouldn't someone be suing the states for not setting up exchanges?
 
2014-07-31 09:25:02 AM  

SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.


okay, you've named two. Congrats, you get a gold star for effort. Now name the other 12 states that are super duper farkups.

/hint: 1 isn't liberal and it did one of the best state exchanges
 
2014-07-31 09:34:59 AM  

SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.


Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.
 
2014-07-31 10:09:23 AM  
Virginian, can confirm.
 
2014-07-31 10:43:12 AM  

Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.


North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.
 
2014-07-31 10:47:36 AM  

bdub77: The GOP in NC is awful.

 
2014-07-31 10:51:49 AM  
TPM

Because maybe they realize that paying to maintain an exchange makes no sense when the program is actually federal?

TPM
 
2014-07-31 10:53:25 AM  
the bill didn't have a grandstanding provision that allowed the governors to take all the credit while wearing hair that is perfect
 
2014-07-31 10:57:23 AM  

Serious Black: TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.


Only libs make mistakes.  Real Americans get it right the first time!  And you know it's right because that's what God wants.

Haha, game point, libtards!
 
2014-07-31 11:03:16 AM  
Yeah, not everybody can be like them ivory tower elitist rocket scientists in Kentucky.
 
2014-07-31 11:04:00 AM  

bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.


And when people complain about the budget, they get to blame the greedy teachers holding the children and the state hostage.
 
2014-07-31 11:04:21 AM  

Serious Black: Good governments Democrats admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments Republicans refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.


When Obama said "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." and was proven wrong, Obama apologized. Meanwhile, Dick Cheney and every Iraq War architect is still spewing the same bullshiat about Iraq long after it's been disproven.
 
2014-07-31 11:05:19 AM  
Because obstinately opposing Obama has become the entirety of the GOP platform.
 
2014-07-31 11:05:38 AM  
Do you really need an article to explain to you why outright red states or states with gerrymandered GOP leadership might want to tank healthcare reform?

Really???
 
2014-07-31 11:06:11 AM  

bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.


You speak like they didn't do that shiat on purpose.
 
2014-07-31 11:06:54 AM  
They came up with a way to get the law passed -- known as "budget reconciliation," which avoided the filibuster in the Senate -- but it came with a price.

Your clever plan . . .
 
2014-07-31 11:07:04 AM  

bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.


Yes they are.  In their new budget proposal

Provides $201,000 for "three new positions to investigate fraud in elections, discrepancies in voter registration information, including duplicate registrations, and to pursue prosecution for violations of election law."
Read more at http://www.wral.com/budget-deal-trims-spending-on-social-programs-boo s ts-teacher-pay/13855284/#BkjEl2sZGqfwFqH4.99
 
2014-07-31 11:08:48 AM  

DeaH: Ambivalence: DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?

No, actually, because it reinforces their perception that ACA was horrible legislation even though they did their darndest to make sure it COULDN'T work in their state.

Except now they will be subsiding it in the Blue states and not getting anything back. They pay and no play.


Which is a great talking point to get your population to vote GoP, not that they were going to do anything other than that no matter what happened.

Hey, idiots in red states: Thanks for helping to pay our subsidies and for our medicare! I mean, we are all in this together but it is mighty kind of you to pay into the system and take nothing in return. Love you! -Colorado
 
2014-07-31 11:08:51 AM  
What none of them seem to have considered is that their residents would lose access to financial help under the law.

What TPM seems to have not considered is that not one Republican politician is going to lose his or her HC over this just the poor, stupid suckers who were dumb enough to vote for them.

Yeah, and even those who did vote for Dems and HC reform as well as those dumb enough to not vote.

Anyone who watches the modern GOP and still thinks they give a flying fark for their constituents hasn't really been paying attention.
 
2014-07-31 11:11:55 AM  

balthan: Because obstinately opposing Obama has become the entirety of the GOP platform.


Well, that's what it comes across as.
What it really is, is obstinately opposing any change from the status quo.

They cry about the debt? They LOVE IT.
That's taxpayer money going to the people that turn around and lobby them.
It sustains them. Gives them power and influence.

The American people are getting farked in the ass to profit some very powerful people.

The anti-obama ruse is just the mechanic with which they make their useful idiots useful.

/"I don't know why we need healthcare reform when we have a system that works perfectly well already."
//"Those fevers your running from your symptomatic stage 3 cancer can get taken care of at the ER."
///its only going to get better when they lose yet another shot at the white house
 
2014-07-31 11:12:32 AM  
Only five years? The Republicans created a cottage industry opposing this at the beginning of the Clinton administration. All the Hillary Hate© was invented because Hillary was stumping for Healthcare as the First Lady.  Entire right wing think tanks were conceived and most others benefited from the enormous inflow of money to oppose healthcare.

The whole "We have to be Obstructionist because Scandals" machine was designed to thwart healthcare, and watch the Euro € from $0.80 to $1.60.

The primary reason Republican politicians opposed healthcare was their own disappointment at not receiving therapy for various emotional, mental, and ethical conditions and certainly not wanting the poors to later get stuff for free. That, and they were paid money to obstruct.
 
2014-07-31 11:12:42 AM  
50 exchanges fits in well with 50 insurance commissions and set of rules on how insurance can be sold in each state.
 
2014-07-31 11:16:55 AM  
It wasn't hard to predict at all.

If congressional Democrats were not so naively optimistic ("we'll set up state-exchanges and all the states will go for it as long as we give them leeway to do it themselves") and instead recognized Republicans for what they are (i.e. petulant children who would cut off their own nose if doing so with spite the "libs"), then it would have been clear as day to see this problem coming.

Congressional Democrats need to take off their rose-colored glasses about current-day governance.  Stop regarding Republicans as your colleagues.  They are your enemies.  That is certainly how they regard you.  They will not work with you.  They will not lift a finger.  They will fight you tooth-and-nail every step of the way on anything you try to do.  You must respond in kind.
 
2014-07-31 11:18:17 AM  
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look at this malformed waterhead
 
2014-07-31 11:21:08 AM  

Doc Daneeka: It wasn't hard to predict at all.

If congressional Democrats were not so naively optimistic ("we'll set up state-exchanges and all the states will go for it as long as we give them leeway to do it themselves") and instead recognized Republicans for what they are (i.e. petulant children who would cut off their own nose if doing so with spite the "libs"), then it would have been clear as day to see this problem coming.

Congressional Democrats need to take off their rose-colored glasses about current-day governance.  Stop regarding Republicans as your colleagues.  They are your enemies.  That is certainly how they regard you.  They will not work with you.  They will not lift a finger.  They will fight you tooth-and-nail every step of the way on anything you try to do.  You must respond in kind.


I don't think it had anything to do with being naively optimistic. I don't think they foresaw John Roberts gutting their ability to force the states onto the exchanges, but since health insurance is already regulated at the state level, making the states set up their own exchanges makes a lot more sense than having a single federal exchange that has to conform to 50 separate constantly changing insurance guidelines. Of course, thanks to Roberts, we now have a crazy hodgepodge of the two, but that will sort itself out. Eventually.
 
2014-07-31 11:25:39 AM  

DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the a courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?


Fixed.
 
2014-07-31 11:32:06 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.

Yes they are.  In their new budget proposal

Provides $201,000 for "three new positions to investigate fraud in elections, discrepancies in voter registration information, including duplicate registrations, and to pursue prosecution for violations of election law."
Read more at http://www.wral.com/budget-deal-trims-spending-on-social-programs-boo s ts-teacher-pay/13855284/#BkjEl2sZGqfwFqH4.99


You gotta give them credit....they've remained true to their narrative that since a black man was elected President then there has.....just....GOT...to be some sort of voter fraud going on.....and if there isn't then were going to make it so difficult for folks to vote that it will never.....EVER.....happen again.
 
2014-07-31 11:33:17 AM  

Ambivalence: DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?

No, actually, because it reinforces their perception that ACA was horrible legislation even though they did their darndest to make sure it COULDN'T work in their state.


I really think that there is some perverse enjoyment that the far right gets when they get screwed by the ACA.  Even if it is because their governor is the cause it of it.  They don't want the ACA to succeed (or really anything Obama does) and they in some way consider themselves front line warriors when they have a story that their healthcare costs more or has other problems.  It's like a farked up, masochistic version of schadenfreude.   The ultimate goal is to get interviewed by some hot blond on foxnews to tell their tale of government abuse.
 
2014-07-31 11:34:19 AM  

DeaH: Except now they will be subsiding it in the Blue states and not getting anything back. They pay and no play.


Except that the blue states are subsidizing them anyway, because most of the red states are mooching basket cases.
 
2014-07-31 11:35:02 AM  

DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?


It's dumber than that. The law is exactly the same in all 50 states. It's a requirement to build 50+ redundant storefronts.
 
2014-07-31 11:36:51 AM  

Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.


I think here in Maryland we do a decent job. But I'm a horrible liberal. A no-good-do-nothing-bleeding-heart-mooc her-enabler.
Yeah, our taxes are high. We have infrastructure that has been built, and more that will need to be built-
Got our brother his first insurance through our state exchange.


I'm living in the reddish purple sort of Maryland, though. Teabiscuits everywhere.
I saw a bumper sticker set this am that describes down here pretty well-
1) FREE THE SOUTH
2)Confederate national flag

/gave me someone to flip off in traffic though, so I got that goin' for me
 
2014-07-31 11:36:53 AM  
GOP: "We don't care how many poor people have to suffer in order for us to push our farked up ideology!"
 
2014-07-31 11:38:01 AM  

keylock71: GOP: "We don't care how many poor people have to suffer in order for us to push our farked up ideology!"


I believe that's the new state motto of the State of Kansas.
 
2014-07-31 11:40:12 AM  
There was a shiat-storm in Arizona when professional Muppet and Cryptkeeper Jan Brewer defied the GOP and let federal AHCCCS (Arizona Health-Care Cost Containment System) funding go through. That woman has had some awful ideas, but thanks to her act of defiance, I have health insurance. Taking the Medicaid funding took so much stress off the system that formerly-ineligible single people like me were allowed back.

When I quit teaching full-time I had COBRA, which was great, but I paid through the nose for it, and I could only be covered for 18 months. I spent at least 1/3 of my retirement fund on it. Then I was without insurance for almost 4 years. It is scary as hell not to be covered. Nobody should have to live with the indignity of being without health care. Seriously -- who are we as a society when health care is a political bargaining tool? My sister had a kidney transplant a few years ago, but even after all the expense and finding a donor, she could lose it if she misses a payment for the anti-rejection meds. Again -- WTF?

People who don't see health care as a human right have a screw loose in their noggin.
 
2014-07-31 11:40:25 AM  

Doc Daneeka: keylock71: GOP: "We don't care how many poor people have to suffer in order for us to push our farked up ideology!"

I believe that's the new state motto of the State of Kansas.


Heh... The "Red State Model".

Working out about as well as everyone with half a brain thought it would.
 
2014-07-31 11:41:18 AM  
www.theweedstreetjournal.com
 
2014-07-31 11:42:22 AM  

BMFPitt: DeaH: Fifty states enacting (or not) the same law in 50 ways? Yeah, that does seem sort of dumb. Of course, this has resulted in the courts saying that only the states who bothered setting up their own exchange get tax subsidies. Hey, Red States, don't you just hate it when you get hit by your own monkey wrench?

It's dumber than that. The law is exactly the same in all 50 states. It's a requirement to build 50+ redundant storefronts.


Insurance regulations aren't the same in all 50 states. The 50+ redundant storefronts already exist.
 
2014-07-31 11:44:54 AM  

bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.



The NC legislature essentially gutted the rest of state government to pay for those teacher and state employee raises; they also eliminated teacher longevity pay by rolling it into the 'raise' so that experienced teachers got hardly any raise at all. Several environmental programs were cancelled altogether while other agencies had their budgets cut drastically, and some of the raises used non-recurring funds to pay for them, a tactic called "let the next group of politicians take the heat for cutting salaries".

/NC state employee
 
2014-07-31 11:57:04 AM  

Serious Black: TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.


Try telling that to someone who's been told that there's no such thing as "good government" for at least the last 30 years.
 
2014-07-31 11:57:46 AM  
Soon he'll be gone. Hopefully not to be replaced by another TeaTard.

i651.photobucket.com
 
2014-07-31 12:01:59 PM  

Doc Daneeka: keylock71: GOP: "We don't care how many poor people have to suffer in order for us to push our farked up ideology!"

I believe that's the new state motto of the State of Kansas.


Sane people: It's better to let 100 guilty men go free than to let 1 innocent man get convicted.
Republicans: It's better to let 100 innocent men get convicted than to let 1 guilty man go free.
 
2014-07-31 12:02:18 PM  

qorkfiend: I don't think they foresaw John Roberts gutting their ability to force the states onto the exchanges


What did John Roberts have to do with the exchanges?
 
2014-07-31 12:04:14 PM  

Bendal: bdub77: Serious Black: SlothB77: Because the other 14 states did such a bang-up job.  Especially the ones run by far-left wackos.  Like Oregon.  Or Maryland.

Oregon is switching to the healthcare.gov technical platform for their exchange starting this year. Maryland has purchased the technology from Connecticut's stunningly successful exchange to use for theirs starting this year. Their governments saw they farked up, they admitted it, and they made moves to fix the problems for the future. That's how good governments should handle screw-ups that inevitably will happen to every government. In contrast, Kansas's tax cut package has plunged the budget into a massive deficit from revenue shortfalls, and the surplus is rapidly dwindling as a result. What's the government's response to this failure? Governor Brownback thinks it's a success and wants to accelerate the future tax cuts!

TL;DR: Good governments admit when they farked up and correct their mistakes. Bad governments refuse to admit they farked up and double down on their mistakes.

North Carolina does this crap too. They just provided teacher pay raises that total $282 million. They only did this after some massive teacher protests and in light of teachers leaving the state. Of course that's on the backs of a tax cut that reduces state revenue by 700 million and 5.3 billion over five years. Oh and because they can't balance the budget because of their tax cut, they are reducing Medicaid and other educational expenditures even further.

The GOP in NC is awful.


The NC legislature essentially gutted the rest of state government to pay for those teacher and state employee raises; they also eliminated teacher longevity pay by rolling it into the 'raise' so that experienced teachers got hardly any raise at all. Several environmental programs were cancelled altogether while other agencies had their budgets cut drastically, and some of the raises used non-recurring funds to pay for them, a tactic called "let the ne ...


The older I get the more I want to vote GOP in Federal elections.

I think it's because I am becoming wiser.

No, I don't agree with the GOP's platform in ANY way.......

I am sick of the fact that us states that don't have our head in our ass having to subsidize all the idiot Red States. My State is very Liberal, it has tons of industry, top schooling, etc.

The Federal Government taxes everything my state, and distributes it mostly in idiot Red States.

If the Federal Government got small enough to "drown in a bathtub", I would be fine. My Blue State attracts plenty of business...... we would just have more money.
 
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