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(Huffington Post)   No-Labels, the "non-partisan" group dedicated to breaking through Washington gridlock, issues internal memo hoping for Republican victories and more gridlock   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 111
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2014-07-31 08:23:06 AM  
nice to see that they're really not better than anything else in D.C.
 
2014-07-31 08:36:20 AM  
This is a problem? Gridlock means neither party gets their stupidity codified. If they were hoping for Democratic victories and more gridlock, that would be fine by me also - seeing as virtually nobody ever asks the question "wait, is this even something Washington should be involved in?" before a bill starts on its road to nowhere. The indispensability of Washington hamhandedness is simply taken as a given.
 
2014-07-31 08:54:52 AM  

Gulper Eel: This is a problem? Gridlock means neither party gets their stupidity codified. If they were hoping for Democratic victories and more gridlock, that would be fine by me also - seeing as virtually nobody ever asks the question "wait, is this even something Washington should be involved in?" before a bill starts on its road to nowhere. The indispensability of Washington hamhandedness is simply taken as a given.


Gridlock for gridlock's sake is not a positive.  You might want Washington less involved, and we could certainly have a debate on the proper role and size of government in today's society.  But gridlock these days means things like not passing a budget, failing to raise the debt ceiling, not passing a highway bill, judicial vacancies, etc.  You may want government to be fixed, but breaking it is not the way to do it.
 
2014-07-31 09:11:29 AM  
It always shocks me when I find out a political group is in it just for the money. Where are my smelling salts?
 
2014-07-31 09:24:23 AM  
Their name is appropriate.  They have No Labels because they have No Product.
 
2014-07-31 09:30:55 AM  
So they're kind of like all the Tea Partiers saying they're independent?


img.fark.net
 
2014-07-31 09:43:07 AM  
I had high hopes for this group initially. I'm really disappointed to find out they're no different than anybody else in the Washington political circuit that just wants to make a buck by grifting from naive bastards.
 
2014-07-31 10:04:02 AM  

Serious Black: I had high hopes for this group initially. I'm really disappointed to find out they're no different than anybody else in the Washington political circuit that just wants to make a buck by grifting from naive bastards.


Behold the glory of capitalism.
 
2014-07-31 10:04:05 AM  

Gulper Eel: This is a problem? Gridlock means neither party gets their stupidity codified.


Gridlock means rough spots in existing laws and regulations do not get smoothed out. Gridlock means important officers of administrative agencies do not get approved and appointed, making it more difficult to execute and implement existing laws. Gridlock means courts around the country are woefully short on judges, adding tremendous time and cost to individuals and businesses seeking to enforce existing laws.

In other words, "herp derp no new laws!" is an ignorant and potentially deliberate misunderstanding of what the government actually does.
 
2014-07-31 10:05:50 AM  
Fark Independents?
 
2014-07-31 10:06:50 AM  
Why can't you all let go of your political prejudices, and make things better by doing 99% of what the GOP wants?
 
2014-07-31 10:07:54 AM  
So basically No Labels is hard at work doing press for No Labels, doing outreach for No Labels, doing branding for No Labels, running No Labels, paying No Labels' administrative costs, doing something called "digital growth," and also something called "Pop."

I actually respect a place that has a soda budget.  If I was there, the fridge will be full of:
vnamcafe.com
www.meltgourmetcheeseburgers.com


wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
1.bp.blogspot.com
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-07-31 10:08:15 AM  

Gulper Eel: This is a problem? Gridlock means neither party gets their stupidity codified.


It also means pointless government shutdowns which COST us money, or downgraded credit ratings which COST us money. Maybe you don't think that's a problem. I sure do.
 
2014-07-31 10:09:31 AM  

jayhawk88: Why can't you all let go of your political prejudices, and make things better by doing 99% of what the GOP wants?


because then they'd just get all pissy about that 1% you're unwilling to give and will take their proverbial ball and go home anyway
 
2014-07-31 10:10:19 AM  
If you are in favor of extending the Republican Denial of Service attack on the nation, you deserve nothing but public mockery and scorn.
 
2014-07-31 10:12:22 AM  
No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican
 
2014-07-31 10:13:28 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: So basically No Labels is hard at work doing press for No Labels, doing outreach for No Labels, doing branding for No Labels, running No Labels, paying No Labels' administrative costs, doing something called "digital growth," and also something called "Pop."

I actually respect a place that has a soda budget.  If I was there, the fridge will be full of:
[vnamcafe.com image 800x599]
[www.meltgourmetcheeseburgers.com image 850x637]


[wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 765x1024]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x1118]


Sorry to inform you, but I learned this week that Dublin Dr. Pepper is no longer made :(
 
2014-07-31 10:13:31 AM  
And just like no label underwear, they have a stinky job, shoot for the moon but end up near Uranus.
 
2014-07-31 10:14:39 AM  
Hey, I'm all for more Grimlock

static.comicvine.com
Ohhhh....gridlock.....yeah, no fark that.
 
2014-07-31 10:15:01 AM  
I'm shocked that an organization run by Republican strategists and funded by people who want to abolish Social Security and pensions isn't as independent and non-partisan as they claim to be.
 
2014-07-31 10:15:23 AM  

Alphax: If you are in favor of extending the Republican Denial of Service attack on the nation, you deserve nothing but public mockery and scorn.


haven't had my coffee yet and initially read that as "deserve nothing but a public monkey," and i thought, what's a public monkey and why should they get one? maybe i'd like a public monkey, oh wait is that some sexual term like santorum? maybe he said pubic monkey? let me reread that, and .... oh no there it is, public mockery, that makes more sense.

/cause i felt like sharing, that's why
 
2014-07-31 10:16:20 AM  
Well duh. If there's no gridlock, there's no reason for an organization fighting gridlock to exist. Who causes gridlock? Republicans.

This is like being shocked that police setting up a speed trap hope people will speed.
 
2014-07-31 10:16:46 AM  
No Child Left Behind
Patriot Act
Clear Skies Initiative

yeah, this isn't new.
 
2014-07-31 10:17:25 AM  

jayhawk88: Why can't you all let go of your political prejudices, and make things better by doing 99% of what the GOP wants?


We tried that.  That remaining 1% gets us labeled as "unwilling to cooperate."
 
2014-07-31 10:17:52 AM  
No Labels that might identify us as GOP stooges.
 
2014-07-31 10:18:24 AM  
Is it mere coincidence that "No Labels" is an anagram for "Nose Ball"?  I think not.
 
2014-07-31 10:19:12 AM  

physt: No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican


You know, we do have an acronym for that.
 
2014-07-31 10:19:15 AM  

i state your name: jayhawk88: Why can't you all let go of your political prejudices, and make things better by doing 99% of what the GOP wants?

because then they'd just get all pissy about that 1% you're unwilling to give and will take their proverbial ball and go home anyway


God, all you libs care about is the 1%.  Get over it!  Some people are better than others!
 
2014-07-31 10:20:40 AM  
"Conservatives" fund and create "non-partisan" group, never actually understand what non-partisan means.

This is Romero worthy.
 
2014-07-31 10:21:42 AM  

Diogenes: physt: No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican

You know, we do have an acronym for that.


Scurry Beaver?
 
2014-07-31 10:22:24 AM  
Yes... Gridlock is just wonderful.

Meanwhile, the roads and infrastructure deteriorate, Immigration reform is avoided like the plague, and rampant cronyism continues to transfer tax dollars to the wealthiest Americans at the expense of the poorest and most vulnerable.

Wonderful, indeed.

Honestly, the older I get, the happier I am the wife and I decided to never have children...
 
2014-07-31 10:24:13 AM  

asquian: "Conservatives" fund and create "non-partisan" group, never actually understand what non-partisan means.

This is Romero worthy.


Also, there is no such thing as right-wing bias.  There is only left-wing bias, and The Truth™.
 
2014-07-31 10:26:40 AM  
They are a "no-labels" group not a "no-common sense" group.
 
2014-07-31 10:28:47 AM  
The vault door is open

The customers are face down on the floor,
the bankers and the security guards are helping fill the thieves' bags..
the truck is getting loaded

It's been that way for years now and these assholes absolutely do not want that to change.
 
2014-07-31 10:29:17 AM  

asquian: Diogenes: physt: No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican

You know, we do have an acronym for that.

Scurry Beaver?



Scars Butt Pubes?
 
2014-07-31 10:30:32 AM  

palelizard: i state your name: jayhawk88: Why can't you all let go of your political prejudices, and make things better by doing 99% of what the GOP wants?

because then they'd just get all pissy about that 1% you're unwilling to give and will take their proverbial ball and go home anyway

God, all you libs care about is the 1%.  Get over it!  Some people are better than others!


philipjfryiseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
 
2014-07-31 10:30:42 AM  

MurphyMurphy: The vault door is open

The customers are face down on the floor,
the bankers and the security guards are helping fill the thieves' bags..
the truck is getting loaded

It's been that way for years now and these assholes absolutely do not want that to change.



Hey, shut up. Pretty soon that truck will overflow and prove trickle down economics works.
 
2014-07-31 10:31:29 AM  

kidgenius: Sorry to inform you, but I learned this week that Dublin Dr. Pepper is no longer made :(


If I had a Pop budget, it WOULD be made.

Not really a Dr. Pepper fan, though.
 
2014-07-31 10:32:59 AM  
But seating everyone boy-girl will fix things because comity!
 
2014-07-31 10:35:54 AM  
Wait 'til they find out about the Ain't My Son-in-Law Rand Paul Just the Greatest Thing Ever Insti-ma-tute on Eye Doctorin' Certificates & Stuff.
 
2014-07-31 10:37:15 AM  

kronicfeld: Gridlock means rough spots in existing laws and regulations do not get smoothed out.


Nor are they worsened - always possible, and often probable given the DC industry that thrives on creating regulatory complexities that serve as a lovely barrier to entry for competitors.

Gridlock means important officers of administrative agencies do not get approved and appointed, making it more difficult to execute and implement existing laws. Gridlock means courts around the country are woefully short on judges, adding tremendous time and cost to individuals and businesses seeking to enforce existing laws.

Ever since I can remember, somebody in DC's been biatching that they don't have enough judges. Here's Rehnquist in 1988. Here's more of the same complaining in 1997.

And somehow we lurch along regardless.

And here's the Nation pointing out that Obama shares blame for the shortage. They want Senate Democrats to tighten up the rules that result in blocked nominees...but do you think they're going to do that? A day will come (sooner than they think if things go badly for them in '14 and '16) when they'll find those rules quite handy.

All the above is assuming there's a horrible shortage in the first place. Is there?
 
2014-07-31 10:44:51 AM  
Republicans need 51 Senate seats to overcome gridlock, Democrats need 108. If defeating gridlock is your only concern then you would vote Republican, yes.
 
2014-07-31 10:45:37 AM  

keylock71: Meanwhile, the roads and infrastructure deteriorate


Here's a crazy idea - how about when we pay our various gas taxes, the governments who get that money actually spend road money on roads instead of diverting it to services drivers can't use? Hardly any of us have a home/work arrangement that makes mass transit practical:

"Transit receives about 20 percent of U.S. surface transportation funding but accounts for 2 percent to 3 percent of all U.S. passenger trips and 2 percent to 3 percent of all U.S. passenger miles."

So you want to increase the gas tax? Fine - long as the money actually does go to the roads and not to some asshat congressman's pointless light-rail pork project.
 
2014-07-31 10:46:41 AM  
It's nice that Fark Independents can get some paying work.
 
2014-07-31 10:50:00 AM  

Lord_Baull: asquian: Diogenes: physt: No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican

You know, we do have an acronym for that.

Scurry Beaver?


Scars Butt Pubes?


Fark IndependentTM
 
2014-07-31 10:57:32 AM  

Gulper Eel: keylock71: Meanwhile, the roads and infrastructure deteriorate

Here's a crazy idea - how about when we pay our various gas taxes, the governments who get that money actually spend road money on roads instead of diverting it to services drivers can't use? Hardly any of us have a home/work arrangement that makes mass transit practical:

"Transit receives about 20 percent of U.S. surface transportation funding but accounts for 2 percent to 3 percent of all U.S. passenger trips and 2 percent to 3 percent of all U.S. passenger miles."

So you want to increase the gas tax? Fine - long as the money actually does go to the roads and not to some asshat congressman's pointless light-rail pork project.


In Seattle there is no more room for more roads or cars.   I take the bus to work and and home every weekday.  The most difficult thing has been when the credit market defaulted because of the whole loan debacle the whole state had to cut budgets and one of the first places was bus service.   Traffic got worse and bus service decreased

Republican Victory!   No way for people to get to their Jerbs.
 
2014-07-31 11:00:25 AM  

whatsupchuck: Is it mere coincidence that "No Labels" is an anagram for "Nose Ball"?  I think not.


Or "bones all."
 
2014-07-31 11:03:19 AM  
Not agreeing 100% with all of our right wing, anti-poor, pro-rich proposals = OBSTRUCTIONISM!!!
 
2014-07-31 11:03:58 AM  

heavymetal: Lord_Baull: asquian: Diogenes: physt: No Labels = Stop calling us Republicans but vote Republican

You know, we do have an acronym for that.

Scurry Beaver?


Scars Butt Pubes?

Fark IndependentTM


Those aren't acronyms.
 
2014-07-31 11:04:14 AM  

kronicfeld: Gulper Eel: This is a problem? Gridlock means neither party gets their stupidity codified.

Gridlock means rough spots in existing laws and regulations do not get smoothed out. Gridlock means important officers of administrative agencies do not get approved and appointed, making it more difficult to execute and implement existing laws. Gridlock means courts around the country are woefully short on judges, adding tremendous time and cost to individuals and businesses seeking to enforce existing laws.

In other words, "herp derp no new laws!" is an ignorant and potentially deliberate misunderstanding of what the government actually does.


Grid lock (in my opinion) is an implied design in our constitution to force everyone to the middle in order to get things done.  The longer the gridlock, the better in my opinion, because politicians will be forced to learn to compromise.. or get voted out.
 
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