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(New York Daily News)   NYCHA is putting homeless families ahead of domestic violence victims on public housing waiting lists. It's probably too soon for another Tick reference, isn't it   (nydailynews.com) divider line 39
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2014-07-31 09:53:17 AM  
It's never too soon for a Tick reference.

/Ah...savory cheese puffs.  Made inedible by time and fate.
 
2014-07-31 11:13:50 AM  
Always strikes me how hosing is provided for people that show up to work on farms from other countries.
If only we could put the homeless and unemployed to work there.
 
2014-07-31 11:14:22 AM  
Tough choice.

I'd say giving those without a home a home is indeed a higher priority than giving someone who has a home a different home, especially since shouldn't the man or woman perpetrating the domestic violence be in jail?

//I know.  They don't want to testify against the person that beats them.
 
2014-07-31 11:15:01 AM  

vudukungfu: Always strikes me how hosing is provided for people that show up to work on farms from other countries.
If only we could put the homeless and unemployed to work there.


How else will they water the plants?
 
2014-07-31 11:16:15 AM  
Am I supposed to be outraged over this? A homeless family doesn't have anywhere else to live. A victim might have family they could stay with

/ten dollars says they only accept female victims of domestic abuse while male victims get ignored
 
2014-07-31 11:17:11 AM  
Well to be fair, the violence victims have houses. The homeless don't. Wait a second...I'm getting an idea. Why don't we let the abuse victim have the public housing, and the homeless get their homes. The abuse victims get new digs, the homeless get a home, and the abusers get someone new to abuse. It's a win-win-win.

How am I not Governor by now?
 
2014-07-31 11:18:25 AM  
sounds like making the best out of a bad situation.
 
2014-07-31 11:18:59 AM  
Sanity, you are a madman.
 
2014-07-31 11:20:33 AM  

Warlordtrooper: Am I supposed to be outraged over this? A homeless family doesn't have anywhere else to live. A victim might have family they could stay with

/ten dollars says they only accept female victims of domestic abuse while male victims get ignored


Pshaw!  You act like men can be abused.
 
2014-07-31 11:27:55 AM  
Beureacracies gonna bureaucracy.

I'd prefer the abuse victims get to live where they've been living and their abusers get dumped in a hole. But that's me.
 
2014-07-31 11:36:23 AM  

vudukungfu: Always strikes me how hosing is provided for people that show up to work on farms from other countries.
If only we could put the homeless and unemployed to work there.


I'm pretty sure the migrant workers are housed in those places only on the stipulation that they work in the fields. There's a reason migrant workers are brought in for those jobs. It's because not even the homeless and chronically unemployed are willing to do them.

And concentrating the homeless and chronically unemployed in isolated work camps sounds like it will invite considerable scrutiny and criticism to me. Maybe we can put up a sign that says "work can set you free" or something.
 
2014-07-31 11:40:34 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Well to be fair, the violence victims have houses. The homeless don't. Wait a second...I'm getting an idea. Why don't we let the abuse victim have the public housing, and the homeless get their homes. The abuse victims get new digs, the homeless get a home, and the abusers get someone new to abuse. It's a win-win-win.

How am I not Governor by now?


There might just be a flaw in your plan.
 
2014-07-31 11:43:29 AM  
So how does the domestic violence preference work? Most of the ones I've heard of give preference to victims who are living in shelters, I don't know why they wouldn't just classify those people as homeless as well.
 
2014-07-31 11:46:10 AM  

cgraves67: vudukungfu: Always strikes me how hosing is provided for people that show up to work on farms from other countries.
If only we could put the homeless and unemployed to work there.

I'm pretty sure the migrant workers are housed in those places only on the stipulation that they work in the fields. There's a reason migrant workers are brought in for those jobs. It's because not even the homeless and chronically unemployed are willing to do them.

And concentrating the homeless and chronically unemployed in isolated work camps sounds like it will invite considerable scrutiny and criticism to me. Maybe we can put up a sign that says "work can set you free" or something.


Plus the chronically homeless often have problems that would prevent them from working those kinds of jobs.  Wait, if we put the homeless kids to work picking fruit alongside their homeless parents, problem solved!
 
2014-07-31 11:51:10 AM  

ArkPanda: Wait, if we put the homeless kids to work picking fruit alongside their homeless parents, problem solved!


azakly.
Let's doo eet
 
2014-07-31 11:57:39 AM  

Gunny Highway: Sanity, you are a madman.


And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.
 
2014-07-31 12:00:39 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: So how does the domestic violence preference work? Most of the ones I've heard of give preference to victims who are living in shelters, I don't know why they wouldn't just classify those people as homeless as well.


Some do qualify as homeless too.  Apparently some victim advocates pushed for them to up the number of apartments reserved for the homeless, as it is easier for them to qualify (preference given if they have a child & job) than it is to qualify under the documentation for domestic violence victims.  70% of those in domestic violence shelters do not qualify for the domestic violence victim priority.

They're talking about 15% of the total yearly vacancies, and it's a capped number that get a higher priority, so it does not block the next priority group from getting in,  and both groups still have priority over any other groups.  It doesn't seem like much of a story, really.
 
2014-07-31 12:17:27 PM  
Yeah, there's no good answer here, I'd hate to be the person who has to make this decision.
 
2014-07-31 12:23:36 PM  
Yeah family trumps "victim."
 
2014-07-31 12:27:47 PM  
Los Angeles housing authority problems tomorrow before 6:00pm eastern.
/would it be a trifecta if it spanned over three days between 3 major cities?
 
2014-07-31 12:29:45 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Yeah family trumps "victim."


Hey asshole, what the fark are the quotes supposed to mean? Are you asking for some folks to go to town on you?
 
2014-07-31 12:39:51 PM  
Don't you hate it when you have to tell 'em twice?
 
2014-07-31 12:48:26 PM  
Spooon!!!
 
2014-07-31 01:26:09 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Am I supposed to be outraged over this? A homeless family doesn't have anywhere else to live. A victim might have family they could stay with

/ten dollars says they only accept female victims of domestic abuse while male victims get ignored


Sort of agree.

/you were this close to a sensible non-inflammatory post. You can do it.
 
2014-07-31 01:36:31 PM  
CHa
 
2014-07-31 01:39:48 PM  

moothemagiccow: ReverendJynxed: Yeah family trumps "victim."

Hey asshole, what the fark are the quotes supposed to mean? Are you asking for some folks to go to town on you?


i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-31 01:44:32 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Am I supposed to be outraged over this? A homeless family doesn't have anywhere else to live. A victim might have family they could stay with

/ten dollars says they only accept female victims of domestic abuse while male victims get ignored


The woman made a poor choice. She should learn how to make a man ahoy and not be a nagging biatch all the time and avoid getting told not to be a nagging biatch. Learn to act right and you won't get smacked around.
 
2014-07-31 03:14:52 PM  
N'cha!
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Bye'cha!
 
2014-07-31 04:32:09 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Warlordtrooper: Am I supposed to be outraged over this? A homeless family doesn't have anywhere else to live. A victim might have family they could stay with

/ten dollars says they only accept female victims of domestic abuse while male victims get ignored

The woman made a poor choice. She should learn how to make a man ahoy and not be a nagging biatch all the time and avoid getting told not to be a nagging biatch. Learn to act right and you won't get smacked around.


Equality means I'll hit you like a man too.
 
2014-07-31 05:39:19 PM  
I can't believe nobody has done this yet.  I guess it falls to me.

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2014-07-31 05:42:44 PM  
Welcome to 'Sanctuary City', where most of our homeless are now from other states or other nations. We've become a magnet to the worlds trash. But what else do you expect in a democratic stronghold city, looking to ensure the next wave of voters know to check the 'D' ticket.


Do you know a kid from a homeless family, even if they just got here from El Salvador or from Alabama, has 'first dibs' on enrolment in their local school? Yes, a kid from 2,000 miles away gets priority over that classroom seat from the kid who lives across the street.

Boss Tweed is alive and well. Soup and bread out on the docks.
 
2014-07-31 07:19:07 PM  
Shelter residents who have jobs will get top priority, officials said.

This is the only priority I agree with. Those people have just hit a real hard patch, and with a little bit of help, they can maintain employment and get back on their feet. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who need to stop breeding.
 
2014-07-31 07:28:38 PM  

Vector R: Shelter residents who have jobs will get top priority, officials said.

This is the only priority I agree with. Those people have just hit a real hard patch, and with a little bit of help, they can maintain employment and get back on their feet. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who need to stop breeding.


If I could take in homeless and have special eviction rights and homeowners theft protection I would do it.

The risk is too high so I settle for food bank donations.
 
2014-07-31 09:56:51 PM  

LemSkroob: Welcome to 'Sanctuary City', where most of our homeless are now from other states or other nations.



If it somehow makes you feel better, I can safely assure you that by far the vast majority of people in New York City shelters are indeed from New York City.
 
2014-08-01 10:56:47 AM  
Sorry to be so dense but what the bleep is a "Tick reference" ?
 
2014-08-01 11:28:07 AM  
Oh wow, so you're telling me with more needy people than resources hard choices have to be made and a deserving group will be left out in the rain? No way.
 
2014-08-01 03:22:56 PM  

strobis48z4: Sorry to be so dense but what the bleep is a "Tick reference" ?


I assume that subby was referring to the name of the agency, NYCHA.  In the animated series The Tick (and in the comic book as well) a character named Chairface Chippendale hatches an evil plot to write his name on the moon using a super-powerful laser he builds in his villainous lair.  The Tick manages to stop him, but not before he manages to get through most of "CHA."  In both the cartoon and the comic, they kept up the continuity after that - every time you saw the moon, it said CHA on it.  If you scroll back just a little way in this thread, you'll see I posted an image of it.

And that was more than you ever wanted to know, but dammit, I'm nothing if not thorough.
 
2014-08-01 04:38:08 PM  

tut0101: LemSkroob: Welcome to 'Sanctuary City', where most of our homeless are now from other states or other nations.


If it somehow makes you feel better, I can safely assure you that by far the vast majority of people in New York City shelters are indeed from New York City.


http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/many-homeless-seeking-shelter -i n-nyc-are-from-elsewhere/
 
2014-08-01 08:59:50 PM  

LemSkroob: tut0101: LemSkroob: Welcome to 'Sanctuary City', where most of our homeless are now from other states or other nations.


If it somehow makes you feel better, I can safely assure you that by far the vast majority of people in New York City shelters are indeed from New York City.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/many-homeless-seeking-shelter -i n-nyc-are-from-elsewhere/


Yes, just over 2,000 families from outside New York City came and applied for shelter last year.  Maybe you don't realize, but in a typical month, 3,000 to 4,000 families apply for shelter in New York City.  So, indeed, welcome to Sanctuary City, where as many as 5% of our homeless are now from other states or nations.
 
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