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(Short List)   The evolution of the computer from a large thing that crashes all the time, to a small thing that crashes all the time   (shortlist.com ) divider line
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2014-07-31 09:11:25 AM  
The list really falls apart at the end, the iPad and the rest of those tablets weren't evolutionary.

The smart phone should have made the list, probably should mention the ARM processor in there as well.
 
2014-07-31 09:32:55 AM  
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What a stupid infographic.
 
2014-07-31 01:36:27 PM  
MicroSoft set the standard early on. The rest is history...
 
2014-07-31 02:27:10 PM  
You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.
 
2014-07-31 02:36:55 PM  
They jump from 1985 to 2001.  Dafuq?
 
2014-07-31 02:43:47 PM  
Not mentioning video cards?
Not mentioning when Random Access Memory was invented?
Not mentioning Crysis which caused a massive surge in video card design to keep up with it?

/Okay that last one isn't that huge...
 
2014-07-31 02:54:06 PM  

way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.


You act like you're some sort of sagely neckbeard about unreliable computing, and then use Windows Me as your example? Fail.
 
2014-07-31 03:21:25 PM  
Clean for 5 years.
 
2014-07-31 03:24:47 PM  
No mention of the IBM 360?

Big fail.
 
2014-07-31 03:59:10 PM  

myrrh: way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.

You act like you're some sort of sagely neckbeard about unreliable computing, and then use Windows Me as your example? Fail.


My experience only goes back to the closing days of msdos, sorry if that's not neckbeardy enough :p

All of the floppy boot stuff in the 80's was slow, but generally stable. Windows 3 wasn't too bad, 95/98 were not great, but you could get by with regular reinstallation.   XP, after service packs, was probably peak microsoft.
I had few issues with Apple products, rarely dabbled with Linux or others.
Windows 7/8 and all these phone os's seem to run forever without issues.  I don't think my phone or game consoles have ever crashed on me.

/Windows ME could bsod just sitting on its own desktop.
/that is when it decided to boot without some shiat breaking.
 
2014-07-31 04:04:47 PM  
RexTalionis:
What a stupid infographic.

Yep.
 
2014-07-31 04:16:16 PM  

RexTalionis: What a stupid infographic.


The Antikythera device is not a general purpose computational machine. Everything in the list is (or would have been, had it been completed.)

=Smidge=
 
2014-07-31 04:40:29 PM  

way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.


Back then, everything sucked in different ways, so you had to pick your poison:

NT4: Stable as hell, but you couldn't use USB and it was a biatch to configure

Win 2000: Stable, but was a memory hog in an era when 256 MB was considered a lot and most games didn't work on it.

Win 98: Supported most software and accessories out there, but it would crash if you pushed it hard because there was no protected memory.

MacOS 8/9: No software for it, not a lot of games, no protected memory so it would also crash if you pushed it.

MacOS X: Even less software than the classic MacOS, big resource hog on the hardware of the day.

Linux: Have fun compiling the drivers for you bog-standard Linksys Ethernet card.

There really wasn't a good choice back then. WinMe was bad, but it wasn't THAT much worse than the crappy alternatives. You best option if you wanted to get something done with your PC and have some fun was to dual boot 98 and 2000. You had your headaches with that solution, but it gave you the best of both worlds if you wanted productivity and gaming in one machine.
 
2014-07-31 04:40:34 PM  

way south: myrrh: way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.

You act like you're some sort of sagely neckbeard about unreliable computing, and then use Windows Me as your example? Fail.

My experience only goes back to the closing days of msdos, sorry if that's not neckbeardy enough :p

All of the floppy boot stuff in the 80's was slow, but generally stable. Windows 3 wasn't too bad, 95/98 were not great, but you could get by with regular reinstallation.   XP, after service packs, was probably peak microsoft.
I had few issues with Apple products, rarely dabbled with Linux or others.
Windows 7/8 and all these phone os's seem to run forever without issues.  I don't think my phone or game consoles have ever crashed on me.

/Windows ME could bsod just sitting on its own desktop.
/that is when it decided to boot without some shiat breaking.


Windows 2000 was very good.
95/98 sucked-crashed daily.
 
2014-07-31 04:54:14 PM  
I like how we skip from 1985 to 2001. The 16 years that saw the worldwide adoption of the internet weren't really important in the grand scheme of things, I guess.

Nice to see my first machine, the Osbourne 1, getting some love. 27 pounds of CP/M power, with a 5-inch screen.
 
2014-07-31 05:18:56 PM  
myrrh: way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.

You act like you're some sort of sagely neckbeard about unreliable computing, and then use Windows Me as your example? Fail.


Agreed.  See my rant about the CMI hard drives used in the original IBM AT's in the 'IRS / Lois Lerner email' thread from Politics tab a few days ago, and the replies I got.
 
2014-07-31 05:25:00 PM  
way south: My experience only goes back to the closing days of msdos, sorry if that's not neckbeardy enough :p

All of the floppy boot stuff in the 80's was slow, but generally stable. Windows 3 wasn't too bad, 95/98 were not great, but you could get by with regular reinstallation.   XP, after service packs, was probably peak microsoft.
I had few issues with Apple products, rarely dabbled with Linux or others.
Windows 7/8 and all these phone os's seem to run forever without issues.  I don't think my phone or game consoles have ever crashed on me.

/Windows ME could bsod just sitting on its own desktop.
/that is when it decided to boot without some shiat breaking.


Don't worry, I wouldn't take it personal.  I think tech threads just tend to get this way.  If it's any comfort, you'll probably live to see *way* more cool stuff than I ever will.

"Windows ME could BSOD just sitting on its own desktop."  Heh.  Yeah, I remember when it came out that there was some variable or counter in Win 95 that was too small, and if you booted a Win 95 system and just let it sit there idling, it would *guaranteed* crash after - what was it, 47.9 days - when it hit this problem.
 
2014-07-31 05:56:38 PM  

LaBlueSkuld: Not mentioning video cards?
Not mentioning when Random Access Memory was invented?
Not mentioning Crysis which caused a massive surge in video card design to keep up with it?

/Okay that last one isn't that huge...


Yeah, I guess the invention of the mouse and the now ubiquitous GUI wasn't really that important either, let's just skip 16 years of development.  No biggie...
 
2014-07-31 07:59:14 PM  
Sunny must be retarded. I have 120 or so computers on the floor, and barring hardware failures, we have very few crashes.
 
2014-07-31 08:31:21 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: "Windows ME could BSOD just sitting on its own desktop."  Heh.  Yeah, I remember when it came out that there was some variable or counter in Win 95 that was too small, and if you booted a Win 95 system and just let it sit there idling, it would *guaranteed* crash after - what was it, 47.9 days - when it hit this problem.


ME was loaded with little IRQ bugs and dozens of other gems too. I had made my peace with 95, but ME was all around worse.
I think what stung me the most is I spent money to get a legitimate copy. I mean, its new, surely they've fixed all the bugs from 98?
Yea, no... not so much.

Somewhere in MS headquarters I always imagined them saying "now that we have this new operating system, lets pack it off to QA and have them send it down the stairs... HAHA! Naw, customers are waiting.Gas the delivery trucks and get the shrink wrap!"

/Is it me, or is that infographic missing the nineties?
/Oh well, I'm sure nothing important happened like TheInternetGraphicsCardsFPSgamesDotcomBubble or anything.
 
2014-07-31 09:51:49 PM  
way south: /Is it me, or is that infographic missing the nineties?
/Oh well, I'm sure nothing important happened like TheInternetGraphicsCardsFPSgamesDotcomBubble or anything.


Has anyone considered the possibility that maybe it was the *author* of the piece that missed the Nineties?  As in, 'did a little too much LDS back in the Sixties'?
 
2014-07-31 09:59:31 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: way south: /Is it me, or is that infographic missing the nineties?
/Oh well, I'm sure nothing important happened like TheInternetGraphicsCardsFPSgamesDotcomBubble or anything.

Has anyone considered the possibility that maybe it was the *author* of the piece that missed the Nineties?  As in, 'did a little too much LDS back in the Sixties'?


Farking Mormons.
 
2014-08-01 06:45:19 AM  

way south: You kids don't know what crashing is...

/seriously, Windows ME was going down every farking chance it got.
/8 is rock solid, compared.


So Windows ME is sort of the your mom of operating systems?
 
2014-08-01 10:24:12 AM  

RxtCrk: LaBlueSkuld: Not mentioning video cards?
Not mentioning when Random Access Memory was invented?
Not mentioning Crysis which caused a massive surge in video card design to keep up with it?

/Okay that last one isn't that huge...

Yeah, I guess the invention of the mouse and the now ubiquitous GUI wasn't really that important either, let's just skip 16 years of development.  No biggie...


16 years? Wikpedia says a rudimentary trackball was invented in the 1940s, and the GUI in the 1960s.
 
2014-08-01 10:27:28 AM  

Mikey1969: Sunny must be retarded. I have 120 or so computers on the floor, and barring hardware failures, we have very few crashes.


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Nah, I remember her being annoyingly cheerful, but not retarded.
 
2014-08-01 04:13:43 PM  

Twonk: No mention of the IBM 360?

Big fail.


Agreed! For the younger farkers, System/360 was the first time any company made a whole line of compatible computers. Before it, when you outgrew your current computer the one you "upgraded" to would have a completely different instruction set, different operating system, and usually you had to buy all new peripherals and rewrite all your programs. I mean even when you just bought the next bigger computer from the same manufacturer!

This (now blindingly-obvious) idea changed the whole industry overnight, and turned IBM from a mere "big company" into a near-monopoly as their competitors took years to catch up. And catching up wasn't easy. I read IBM's investment in creating the S/360 was around $5 billion 1960 dollars. It was the biggest tech project since the Manhattan Project, and the largest ever undertaken by private industry.

Want more? Here's a pdf copy of the 50th anniversary commemorative book:  http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/tw/resources/system_tw_360revolution_04 0 704.pdf
 
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