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(Washington Post)   In 1999 Rep. Tony Schnell (R-OH) proposed a bill that caused the American people to rise up and protest and spurred Congress to pass laws against his proposal. Only problem was, neither Rep. Schnell nor his $0.05 tax on email ever actually existed   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 60
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2014-07-30 12:03:47 PM  
So, you're telling me that there are vast swaths of Americans, including multiple members of Congress, who are easily duped fools?

I...I don't know what to make of this...
 
2014-07-30 12:14:13 PM  
In the end, Congress passed a law to prohibit the Internet charges that were never even being considered in the first place.

I was prepared to mock here but now I'm thinking better safe than sorry.
 
2014-07-30 12:40:41 PM  
He never existed? I guess you can say that someone pulled a fast one when they had to make Schnell.
 
2014-07-30 01:30:40 PM  
It makes me want to create a Tony Schnell for President Super PAC
 
2014-07-30 01:41:20 PM  
Don't blame me, I voted for SCHNELL!
 
2014-07-30 01:42:21 PM  
But he was a uniter. I'd vote for him.
 
2014-07-30 01:43:02 PM  
Just think - this guy probably received hundreds of perfectly legal death threats.  Now that's FARK.
 
2014-07-30 01:43:27 PM  
I can only hope and pray to God that Rep. John Dingell was a berry farmer before being elected to Congress.
 
2014-07-30 01:45:27 PM  
My hunch is that the recent spate of
rumor-mongering has so sensitized the Internet community to the potential
for spreading myths, that it will now self-organize aggressively around
rumor-quashing, and myth-debunking
. The tale of Comet Hale-Bopp and the
SLO is, I think, an early indicator of this trend.

**Background: is a mystery object shadowing Hale-Bopp?!?...

On November 14th,an amateur astronomer in Houston named Chuck Shramek
captures a CCD image on his telescope of Comet Hale-Bopp and nearby, a
mysterious (to Mr. Shramek) "self-luminous Saturn-like Object" ("SLO" as
come to be known) that Mr. Shramek reported was following the comet.
Shortly thereafter, Mr. Schramek was interviewed on the Art Bell Show,
self-billed as "The #1 Late Night Talk Radio Program" (quote from Bell's
home page), offering a full serving of UFO conspiracy stuff


So, uh, I bet this Yale professor is embarrassed.
Link
/Art Bell was so god damned entertaining ...
//I want to believe
 
2014-07-30 01:46:17 PM  
That headline is Palinesque word salad. Can someone take out a couple words and turn this into English?
 
2014-07-30 01:47:17 PM  
It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?
 
2014-07-30 01:49:10 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


I'll never understand this either.  The government is supposedly inherently evil.  However, the government has nothing to gain by farking me over.  Corporations do, and consistently prove it.
 
2014-07-30 01:51:06 PM  

Triple Oak: That headline is Palinesque word salad. Can someone take out a couple words and turn this into English?


Let me explain. There is no time to explain. Let me sum up. USPS is charge everyone's email a little less than half a dime. So all we have to do is call Congress, break up the proposal, email the family, make our escape... after I kill Count Schnell.
 
2014-07-30 01:52:06 PM  

JerseyTim: He never existed? I guess you can say that someone pulled a fast one when they had to make Schnell.


What you did there...Ich sehe es.
 
2014-07-30 01:53:18 PM  
This reminds me of Rep Les Winan (R-Springfield).
 
2014-07-30 01:53:58 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


Because they're stupid.
 
2014-07-30 01:54:22 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


Because that's the narrative that's been put out there in the name of "capitalism" for the last thirty years or so.
 
2014-07-30 01:54:57 PM  
...or what Gryfalcon said.
 
2014-07-30 01:56:03 PM  
I think it was the mention of the politician in question being a republican that makes it sound plausible. If it's vile and wrong and completely detrimental against the will of the People, you can guarantee that it's a republican behind it.

Just look at all the other outrageous stuff that real republicans are actually trying to get pushed through. A tax on emails sounds exactly like something they would try to do.
 
2014-07-30 01:58:40 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


Because we don't have a say-so in a corporation unless we own stock in it.  Also, a corporation really doesn't care if we like them or not, as long as they are making money.
 
2014-07-30 02:00:11 PM  
R-OH R-OH!
 
2014-07-30 02:00:54 PM  

tnpir: I...I don't know what to make of this...


Well you'd probably know if the government wasn't putting genetically modified chemicals in toothpaste.
 
2014-07-30 02:06:43 PM  
Fairly easy to know its fake. It's a Republican proposing a tax increase.
 
2014-07-30 02:11:51 PM  

enry: Fairly easy to know its fake. It's a Republican proposing a tax increase.


But it's also a republican demonstrating zero knowledge of how the internet works.  Do they cancel out?
 
2014-07-30 02:12:27 PM  
So this is basically like the wackos I hear clamoring for a law banning the adoption of sharia law.
 
2014-07-30 02:12:35 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?

I'll never understand this either.  The government is supposedly inherently evil.  However, the government has nothing to gain by farking me over.  Corporations do, and consistently prove it.


That's what everybody in jail for drugs so the government could give handouts to private prisons believes too.
 
2014-07-30 02:14:17 PM  
I can't tell if the article was snark-trashing Reader's Digest or if the article understands Reader's Digest, but it can't be both. Reader's Digest never competes as a tastemaker or trend follower. It always competes for nostalgia and health news, and when it references contemporary politics and media, it contextualizes them in the shadow of the Good Old Days. That is their niche.
 
2014-07-30 02:19:02 PM  

JerseyTim: He never existed? I guess you can say that someone pulled a fast one when they had to make Schnell.


This. This ist gut.
 
2014-07-30 02:19:06 PM  
- People are stupid. They believe things because it sounds good to them and they want to believe it over rational arguments and facts.
 
2014-07-30 02:22:28 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


So far, no US corporations have committed mass genocide against American Indians, forced people to join the army and get shot at overseas, or dropped napalm/atomic bombs on anyone.

Also, one can opt out of many corps by not buying their crap (most of which we don't need anyway). To opt out of the system of govt, one tends to need a lot of guns and like-minded friends (and even then it doesn't always work. See: "US History, 1861-1865")
 
2014-07-30 02:26:23 PM  

JerseyTim: He never existed? I guess you can say that someone pulled a fast one when they had to make Schnell.




obsessedwithconformity.com
 
2014-07-30 02:26:24 PM  

YixilTesiphon: RedPhoenix122: Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?

I'll never understand this either.  The government is supposedly inherently evil.  However, the government has nothing to gain by farking me over.  Corporations do, and consistently prove it.

That's what everybody in jail for drugs so the government could give handouts to private prisons believes too.


You realize that supports the post you're responding to, right? The government doesn't gain anything by putting people in prison, but the private corporations that run the prisons do.
 
2014-07-30 02:26:37 PM  

lamecomedian: So far, no US corporations have committed mass genocide against American Indians, forced people to join the army and get shot at overseas, or dropped napalm/atomic bombs on anyone.


"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

Smedley Butler
 
2014-07-30 02:29:33 PM  
The U.S. Postal Service, hurting from the advent of the Internet, would get the revenue from the e-mail tax

Meanwhile, in real life, Republicans made it so the USPS doesn't even get to keep the revenue from its own operations.

The Federal government has no business being in business... even if it's in the Constitution.
 
2014-07-30 02:33:36 PM  

Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?


Because Socialisms.  No really.  Government is evil because government control = socialism in people's minds and corporations are good because corporations = capitalism.  On the bright side, as people who lived through the Cold War die off we may have a hope of changing this.

On a side note, if we ever invent time machines, every American should have to spend a year living back in the late 1800s so they can understand how evil businesses are.
 
2014-07-30 02:34:16 PM  

stonicus: enry: Fairly easy to know its fake. It's a Republican proposing a tax increase.

But it's also a republican demonstrating zero knowledge of how the internet works.  Do they cancel out?


But it was 1999, so a (likely older) politician not knowing how the internet works can be forgiven.
 
2014-07-30 02:36:39 PM  
It's a beautiful parable of Congress listening to the people who elected them. Until you learn that Tony Schnell didn't exist. And neither did the legislative proposal he "authored" that would have instituted a five-cent tax on every e-mail sent.

Um, the fact that this dude never existed doesn't change the fact that Congress acted in the interests of the taxpayers. It's STILL a "beautiful parable of Congress listening to the people".

A quick Google search -- which was heading toward ubiquity at this point -- could have resolved the fury quickly.

This is an easy thing to assume in 2014, but "heading to ubiquity" doesn't mean "ubiquitous". In 1999, there were plenty of people still figuring out how to use the internet, and search engines in particular.
 
2014-07-30 02:37:30 PM  

stonicus: enry: Fairly easy to know its fake. It's a Republican proposing a tax increase.

But it's also a republican demonstrating zero knowledge of how the internet works.  Do they cancel out?


I'm a registered Democrat and I can tell you that they don't know much about the Internet either.
 
2014-07-30 02:38:09 PM  

qorkfiend: You realize that supports the post you're responding to, right? The government doesn't gain anything by putting people in prison, but the private corporations that run the prisons do.


Police and prison guard unions, how do they work?

The one and only positive feature of the existence of private prisons is that people at least pretend to be outraged at the abuses of our insane "justice system".
 
2014-07-30 02:43:50 PM  

Mikey1969: Um, the fact that this dude never existed doesn't change the fact that Congress acted in the interests of the taxpayers. It's STILL a "beautiful parable of Congress listening to the people".


They passed a law that did absolutely nothing.  How is wasting time on that in the interest of the taxpayers?
 
2014-07-30 02:44:40 PM  

BMFPitt: qorkfiend: You realize that supports the post you're responding to, right? The government doesn't gain anything by putting people in prison, but the private corporations that run the prisons do.

Police and prison guard unions, how do they work?

The one and only positive feature of the existence of private prisons is that people at least pretend to be outraged at the abuses of our insane "justice system".


You are suggesting that the private organizations of police and prison guard unions somehow benefit the government as an entity?
 
2014-07-30 02:45:56 PM  

lamecomedian: Doc Daneeka: It's funny how Americans can rise as one to protest the federal government allegedly taxing internet usage, but meanwhile the giant cable/telecom monopolies can actively and continually screw them for a decade, and there is nary a peep.

Why are Americans so vigilant against governmental overreach, yet so willing to roll over and take it from corporations?

So far, no US corporations have committed mass genocide against American Indians, forced people to join the army and get shot at overseas, or dropped napalm/atomic bombs on anyone.

Also, one can opt out of many corps by not buying their crap (most of which we don't need anyway). To opt out of the system of govt, one tends to need a lot of guns and like-minded friends (and even then it doesn't always work. See: "US History, 1861-1865")


Big Business has been the impetus behind a majority of our military excursions throughout our history. Big Business has toppled governments in other countries specifically to write new constitutions exempting them from government regulations and authority in Central and South America. It was to protect a corporation, BP, that Churchill convinced a naive Kennedy administration to overthrow the democratically elected Iranian government and reinstall the Shah, which led directly to our problems with Iran today.

Simply because you only pay the hitman doesn't mean you aren't committing murder as though you pull the trigger yourself.
 
2014-07-30 02:48:50 PM  

Mikey1969: In 1999, there were plenty of people still figuring out how to use the internet, and search engines in particular.


Boy howdy. We were still 6-7 years away from "the Google" in 1999.
 
2014-07-30 02:56:44 PM  

qorkfiend: You are suggesting that the private organizations of police and prison guard unions somehow benefit the government as an entity?


So basically you're nullifying the corruption of anyone who works for the government by semantically separating the person from the job?

You should feel bad about yourself.
 
2014-07-30 02:57:18 PM  

BMFPitt: Mikey1969: Um, the fact that this dude never existed doesn't change the fact that Congress acted in the interests of the taxpayers. It's STILL a "beautiful parable of Congress listening to the people".

They passed a law that did absolutely nothing.  How is wasting time on that in the interest of the taxpayers?


Because they listened for once. Jesus, some people aren't happy unless they can complain.

Dr Dreidel: Mikey1969: In 1999, there were plenty of people still figuring out how to use the internet, and search engines in particular.

Boy howdy. We were still 6-7 years away from "the Google" in 1999.


That's hilarious... Jesus, by 2006 even babies in the womb were more informed than that. But 1999 was a baby formula and diapers time for Google...
 
2014-07-30 03:12:10 PM  
I find it quite amazing that a phantom congressman by the name of Schnell has more success in jump-starting the legislative process than those of us here by actual election of the people.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-07-30 03:14:36 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Mikey1969: In 1999, there were plenty of people still figuring out how to use the internet, and search engines in particular.

Boy howdy. We were still 6-7 years away from "the Google" in 1999.


In 1999,  while sipping a margarita in a motorized tiki lounge that was puttering across the desert floor at Burning Man, I somewhat drunkenly got into an argument witht he guy next to me about whether it was even POSSIBLE to accurately inventory the World Wide web enough to make any search engine truly comprehensive or meaningful.   That man, I later learned to my immortal embarrassment, was Sergey Brin
 
2014-07-30 03:18:39 PM  
cdn0.vox-cdn.com
 
2014-07-30 03:19:39 PM  

BMFPitt: qorkfiend: You are suggesting that the private organizations of police and prison guard unions somehow benefit the government as an entity?

So basically you're nullifying the corruption of anyone who works for the government by semantically separating the person from the job?

You should feel bad about yourself.


I honestly can't tell if you're serious or not with this post.
 
2014-07-30 03:31:00 PM  

enry: stonicus: enry: Fairly easy to know its fake. It's a Republican proposing a tax increase.

But it's also a republican demonstrating zero knowledge of how the internet works.  Do they cancel out?

I'm a registered Democrat and I can tell you that they don't know much about the Internet either.


True, but I'm willing to bet there's a chance that research would be done into how it works before the full retard comes forth.
 
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