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(Talking Points Memo)   Karl Rove: How dare the Democrats use the stupid crap we Republicans stirred up to appease our stupid base for their own fundraising   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 207
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2014-07-30 11:38:56 AM  
I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.
 
2014-07-30 11:39:10 AM  
Shame?

*SHAME*?

I thought that concept of shame was unknown to Karl Rove.
 
2014-07-30 11:40:34 AM  
Rove 101 is well-known at this point:  Take your own sins and cast them against the opposition.

But this manifestation is downright ridiculous.  And the No True Scotsman angle ain't cutting it either ("no serious Republican leader").

Clean up you own goddamned house if your 'unserious' members upset you so, you smarmy little douchebag.
 
2014-07-30 11:47:42 AM  

factoryconnection: I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.


So essentially Rove has said Palin is not a serious Republican leader.  I find that amusing.
 
2014-07-30 11:49:45 AM  
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2014-07-30 11:50:23 AM  
I laughed my ass off at this exchange between Robert Costa and Rep. Ted Yoho who notably posted on his own website back in 2011 six reasons why Obama should be impeached.

Yet on Tuesday, just a few days after the Breitbart story, Yoho was leaving another House Republican confab, carrying a cup of coffee, and being pelted with questions. Most of the questions came from the Washington Post's Robert Costa, who asked what Yoho thought of the Democrats now raising funds on the specter of impeachment. Costa then found himself drawn into an accidental Socratic dialogue.
"Why would you impeach a president?" Yoho asked the reporter. "What are the reasons?"
"You tell me," said Costa.
"I'm asking you," said Yoho.
"I'm trying to get a sense of what people think is an impeachable offense-perhaps his move on immigration," said Costa.
"I think that's one of many. Again, go back to why you impeach a president."
"Can you inform me a little more?" asked Costa.
"You asked me," said Yoho. "And I'm asking you a question."
The congressman and the reporter went several more rounds until Costa chose not to answer the hypothetical question about why a president should be impeached.
"Then I guess I don't know either," said Yoho. "I mean, come on, you know-it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Not following the Constitution. Has he violated those oaths? Has he not faithfully executed the laws of our land?"
"So he should be impeached?" asked Costa.
"I'm not saying that," said Yoho.
 
2014-07-30 11:50:46 AM  
hahahahaha

I am loving this.
 
2014-07-30 12:05:13 PM  

Serious Black: I laughed my ass off at this exchange between Robert Costa and Rep. Ted Yoho who notably posted on his own website back in 2011 six reasons why Obama should be impeached.

Yet on Tuesday, just a few days after the Breitbart story, Yoho was leaving another House Republican confab, carrying a cup of coffee, and being pelted with questions. Most of the questions came from the Washington Post's Robert Costa, who asked what Yoho thought of the Democrats now raising funds on the specter of impeachment. Costa then found himself drawn into an accidental Socratic dialogue.
"Why would you impeach a president?" Yoho asked the reporter. "What are the reasons?"
"You tell me," said Costa.
"I'm asking you," said Yoho.
"I'm trying to get a sense of what people think is an impeachable offense-perhaps his move on immigration," said Costa.
"I think that's one of many. Again, go back to why you impeach a president."
"Can you inform me a little more?" asked Costa.
"You asked me," said Yoho. "And I'm asking you a question."
The congressman and the reporter went several more rounds until Costa chose not to answer the hypothetical question about why a president should be impeached.
"Then I guess I don't know either," said Yoho. "I mean, come on, you know-it's high crimes and misdemeanors. Not following the Constitution. Has he violated those oaths? Has he not faithfully executed the laws of our land?"
"So he should be impeached?" asked Costa.
"I'm not saying that," said Yoho.


My god -- Nathan Thurm is serving in Congress!!!

i.bnet.com
 
2014-07-30 12:08:23 PM  

Diogenes: Rove 101 is well-known at this point:  Take your own sins and cast them against the opposition.

But this manifestation is downright ridiculous.  And the No True Scotsman angle ain't cutting it either ("no serious Republican leader").

Clean up you own goddamned house if your 'unserious' members upset you so, you smarmy little douchebag.


THIS.

/Are there any serious Republican leaders left at this point?
 
2014-07-30 12:15:32 PM  
So am I correct in assuming that the Republicans realized they were in too deep with the impeachment talk that the only way out of it was to use the "I know you are, but what am I?" tactic?
 
2014-07-30 12:17:02 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: So am I correct in assuming that the Republicans realized they were in too deep with the impeachment talk that the only way out of it was to use the "I know you are, but what am I?" tactic?


[waiting for smart button to be enabled]
 
2014-07-30 12:19:59 PM  

factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.


You have to admit, St. Sarah has been one of the most effective double-agents the liberals have ever inserted into Republican ranks.  They even managed to set it up so Larry Flynt could make a good bit of money off her.
 
2014-07-30 12:28:58 PM  
Karl Rove's life has been a net negative to humanity. From a purely perspective we should grind him up and feed him to pets.
 
2014-07-30 12:29:38 PM  
post fails without the inclusion of the word "utilitarian" before perspective

dammit.
 
2014-07-30 12:52:46 PM  
Let them impeach. Obama has nailed his name into history. He presided over one of the greatest economic comebacks in American history, ended a divisive and costly war and helped bring health coverage to millions of previously uninsured Americans. Not too shabby for someone working virtually alone.

President Biden...f*ck yeah
 
2014-07-30 01:29:39 PM  

factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.


Remember when the Republicans were known for their party unity and strict message control?
 
2014-07-30 01:46:58 PM  
Ha ha ha. Fu*k you, Karl.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-07-30 02:13:16 PM  
nmrsnr:
Remember when the Republicans were known for their party unity and strict message control?

They wanted the Southern Democrats, so good luck with that.
 
2014-07-30 02:22:27 PM  

nmrsnr: factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.

Remember when the Republicans were known for their party unity and strict message control?


back then, the inmates weren't running the asylum.  for the most part.
 
2014-07-30 02:25:23 PM  

factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.


Sarah Palin doesn't hold an elected office.

Steve King, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, on the other hand, all do.
 
2014-07-30 02:46:36 PM  

vpb: nmrsnr:
Remember when the Republicans were known for their party unity and strict message control?

They wanted the Southern Democrats, so good luck with that.


I'm not sure where you're going with that. The Southern Strategy was in the 70's, and they were known for their iron clad grip on their messaging up until they pumped money into the Tea Party in 2010.
 
2014-07-30 02:48:54 PM  

timujin: factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.

Sarah Palin doesn't hold an elected office.

Steve King, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, on the other hand, all do.


How many of those three are in The Family?
 
2014-07-30 02:49:03 PM  
I got about to the part of the article where he gets mad that Obama capitalizes on their stupidity and had to close the window.

Hey, um, maybe, stop being stupid and saying stupid things and believing stupid things and Obama won't use it against. Just a thought.
 
2014-07-30 02:50:08 PM  
against you.


/seriously? maybe I should start using preview
//nahhhhhhhhhh
 
2014-07-30 02:51:13 PM  
Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.
 
2014-07-30 02:51:18 PM  
FTA : "That's what the president wants. Just like he wanted people to step forward on the birther issue, because he knew it undermined the credibility of the Republicans and conservatives and served his, President Obama's, purposes."

So ... Rove is saying that Obama has been playing them like a fiddle.  For nearly 7 years.

/this. is. frickin. hilarious
 
2014-07-30 02:53:38 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.


So do you think what Karl Rove is saying is correct?
 
2014-07-30 02:53:48 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.


Thank you walking conservative echo point, but I see no retort from you on the truth of this topic.

Sorry that the side you pretend to parade around is ignorant to how the internet saves information.

See also: the thread from yesterday where MANY examples were given of recent I-word mumblings from Republicans, some of whom hold office now or are vying for a seat this fall.
 
2014-07-30 02:54:05 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.


God, how cute you are!
 
2014-07-30 02:54:13 PM  
I've noticed the fark right wing trolls and "independents" have been pushing the shiat out of this the last week.

They really expect anyone, especially their base, to believe no conservative NO WHERE hasn't been talking about impeachment non-stop since 2009?
 
2014-07-30 02:54:19 PM  
Well, I was informed by Fark posters yesterday that just because members of the GOP mention impeachment, they aren't actually in the process of it, therefore it is terribly dishonest to say that they are trying to impeach Obama.  Apparently it is a terrible thing to call people out on dumb shiat they say.
 
2014-07-30 02:54:40 PM  

factoryconnection: I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.


I'm glad you didn't remember, because quoting a Republican's actual words is a lie, and very probably a direct violation of their First Amendment rights.
 
2014-07-30 02:54:47 PM  
Why won't you let us rile up our base in peace?  They love this stuff, but if you keep bringing up what we've said you'll scare away the moderates and BSABSVR types that haven't been scared off by our actual policy making plans or lack thereof.
 
2014-07-30 02:55:26 PM  
Does this guy have any credibility left?
 
2014-07-30 02:55:48 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: They really expect anyone, especially their base, to believe no conservative NO WHERE hasn't been talking about impeachment non-stop since 2009?


we've *always* been at war with Eastasia.
 
2014-07-30 02:56:58 PM  
The entire GOP is one giant false flag organization
 
2014-07-30 02:57:26 PM  
The only people who are going to believe this "All this impeachment talk started with democrats" bullshiat is the knuckleheads, who were already going to vote for whatever mental midgets the GOP was going to nominate.

Republicans: Still don't understand that all the retarded things they say/write are recorded and can be looked up long after they've been said or written.


The Democrats would have been foolish not to use the GOP's own nonsense as a tool to raise money.
 
2014-07-30 02:59:21 PM  
Hey, Rove, you know what would have kept the Democrats from fundraising on this issue? Not talking about impeachment.
 
2014-07-30 02:59:28 PM  

keylock71: The only people who are going to believe this "All this impeachment talk started with democrats" bullshiat is the knuckleheads, who were already going to vote for whatever mental midgets the GOP was going to nominate.

Republicans: Still don't understand that all the retarded things they say/write are recorded and can be looked up long after they've been said or written.


The Democrats would have been foolish not to use the GOP's own nonsense as a tool to raise money.


Wouldn't it be the opposite, though?  Shouldn't claims like this PISS OFF the knuckleheads?  They're been demanding impeachment, they keep getting promised impeachment to stop the LAWLESSNESS, and now major Republican are saying otherwise?
 
2014-07-30 02:59:31 PM  
No no no guys. You got it all wrong. The protest signs and stickers really said "I'm Peachy Obama" but as per usual they spelled some things wrong. The Republicans love Obama and always have. You guys need to check your sources.
 
2014-07-30 02:59:35 PM  

muck1969: FTA : "That's what the president wants. Just like he wanted people to step forward on the birther issue, because he knew it undermined the credibility of the Republicans and conservatives and served his, President Obama's, purposes."

So ... Rove is saying that Obama has been playing them like a fiddle.  For nearly 7 years.

/this. is. frickin. hilarious


But Rove said "Shame on them!". That totally makes it a bad thing. Shame on the Democrats for playing their opponents blood lust against them.
 
2014-07-30 03:00:21 PM  

Triple Oak: Tricky Chicken: Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.

Thank you walking conservative echo point, but I see no retort from you on the truth of this topic.

Sorry that the side you pretend to parade around is ignorant to how the internet saves information.

See also: the thread from yesterday where MANY examples were given of recent I-word mumblings from Republicans, some of whom hold office now or are vying for a seat this fall.


So you have noticed it too.  But there were two threads yeaterday.
 
2014-07-30 03:00:47 PM  
GOP: We're going to snap all the rules about money in politics so we can get all the funds we need!

GOP: Obama will be a one-term president; we will oppose everything he does; he should be impeached.

Dems: Can you believe Republicans want to impeach the president? Send us money and show them they're wrong!

GOP: HOW DARE YOU RAISE MONEY AND SAY WE WANT TO IMPEACH OBAMA! WE NEVER WANTED THAT!

Google: lol
 
2014-07-30 03:01:08 PM  
I had the misfortune of listening to Rush today for a short time -- thank God the ride was short.  He claimed that the only people that have ever mentioned impeachment was the White House and "liberal" media and that no Republicans have said they wanted it.  He informed the caller that she should get ready for a Democrat onslaught of using it as a fund raising rally.

My only thought was -- damn his listeners are stupid.  They've only been calling for his impeachment for 6 years and something like 87% of Republicans want him impeached....and now it's the left that's trying to rally the base using impeachment?  Christ.
 
2014-07-30 03:01:56 PM  

nmrsnr: factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.

Remember when the Republicans were known for their party unity and strict message control?


I do. I remember envying their ability to march in lockstep. Watching what it has turned into just warms my heart.
 
2014-07-30 03:02:12 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Triple Oak: Tricky Chicken: Oh is it THIS false daily talking point thread again?

Well, it is your obligatory TPM post. It isn't news, it's TPMshill.com! All the news that's left.

Thank you walking conservative echo point, but I see no retort from you on the truth of this topic.

Sorry that the side you pretend to parade around is ignorant to how the internet saves information.

See also: the thread from yesterday where MANY examples were given of recent I-word mumblings from Republicans, some of whom hold office now or are vying for a seat this fall.

So you have noticed it too.  But there were two threads yeaterday.


Still haven't said it's wrong. Keep flailing though, one of you brave Fark IndependentsTM needs to do it every thread.
 
2014-07-30 03:02:50 PM  
Karl Rove: republican crybaby.  I'd like to see him get arrested (I don't care for what)and Mirandized.  Then maybe he'd learn anything you say can and will be used against you, especially if it's stupid.
 
2014-07-30 03:02:50 PM  
The "hours away from lawsuit" banner is really what elevates that pic to the next level.
 
2014-07-30 03:03:06 PM  

timujin: factoryconnection: I was baffled by Speaker Boehner's remarks that the impeachment drumbeat was coming from the White House strictly to get Democratic dander up, when I certainly remember Sarah Palin getting tons of screen time for calling for impeachment explicitly.  I also remember the topic being raised by Boehner's own caucus in the house, although I can't remember which Reps said it.

What a load of sh*t.

Sarah Palin doesn't hold an elected office.

Steve King, James Inhofe and Tom Coburn, on the other hand, all do.


Don't forget Steve Scalise, #3 in the House hierarchy. He's also not "a true Republican leader" according to Rove, despite the House GOP having elected him to that post just 41 days ago (he doesn't technically start until tomorrow, though).
 
2014-07-30 03:03:16 PM  
Everyone understands that the Tea Partiers want to impeach the President. The Republican leadership knows it cannot accomplish and that it would seriously damage the party, but it cannot refuse the Tea Partiers or make them understand why their wants are irrational.  So, instead they file this lawsuit which will either get thrown out, in which case they get to rail against liberal judges (even if they're Republican appointees) or it gets to grind through the legal system for years thus chilling any executive order the President might make.  It would be the perfect political maneuver if it weren't so transparently cynical.
 
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