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2014-07-30 08:35:26 AM  
Israel is a good bogeyman for the Iranian Theocracy to use, that's for sure.
 
2014-07-30 08:46:57 AM  
And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.
 
2014-07-30 08:51:54 AM  
Good luck getting a ship anywhere near Gaza.
 
2014-07-30 08:52:44 AM  

Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.


The Holocaust? Oh, and Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.
 
2014-07-30 08:54:24 AM  

real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.


last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas
 
2014-07-30 09:04:45 AM  

somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas


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2014-07-30 09:11:18 AM  

real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

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You sure?


Members or victims?
 
2014-07-30 09:11:47 AM  

real_headhoncho: Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.

The Holocaust? Oh, and Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.


Despite the misspelling, that's the key word there in your sentence. They WANT to do it. Israel actually IS wiping the Gaza Strip off the map and killing all the Palestinians with it.
 
2014-07-30 09:15:18 AM  

real_headhoncho: You sure?


nekom: Members or victims?


what nekom said.
 
2014-07-30 09:21:17 AM  

real_headhoncho: Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.

The Holocaust? Oh, and Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.


Also, what the fark does the Holocaust have to do with this situation? If anything, I'd say the evidence points towards Israel being the ones actually carrying out the genocide of an entire group of people.
 
2014-07-30 09:28:07 AM  
Send Gazans to Houston.
 
2014-07-30 09:31:08 AM  

real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

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They just want to be JUST LIKE mommy or daddy, like any good kid would want.

/that whole region is more farked up than hogan's goat.
 
2014-07-30 09:34:27 AM  
Iran and Qatar are the last two groups who still back Hamas to the point of supplying them with weapons.

And now the Supreme Leader of Iran is asking for other Muslim countries to kick in?

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2014-07-30 09:40:29 AM  

real_headhoncho: Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.

The Holocaust? Oh, and Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.


kind of the way that Israel has already wiped Palestine off of the map and is working on eliminating the people who are left?
 
2014-07-30 09:58:19 AM  

nekom: real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

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You sure?

Members or victims?


I actually feel too bad about this to use a [whynotboth.jpg].

It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.
 
2014-07-30 10:00:45 AM  
HAMAS is an evil terrorist organization.  Israel is a honey badger.  You do the math.
 
2014-07-30 10:02:46 AM  

real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x268]
[spagmonster.files.wordpress.com image 290x391]
[www.theblaze.com image 454x639]
You sure?


Sure! 3 year olds make their own theological and political decisions, don'tchaknow?
 
2014-07-30 10:06:22 AM  
Bloody William:
It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.

It really is.  The smart thing to do would be for the Palestinians to say "You know what, fark it.  You win, Israel.  We're going to go live somewhere else, because life absolutely SUCKS here and fighting you just makes it suck worse."  But you know, holy land and all that.  I suspect there is a tremendous brain drain in Palestine which can't be helping the situation either.  I feel bad for the Palestinians, but most of them aren't really helping the situation either.
 
2014-07-30 10:06:36 AM  

Bloody William: It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.


At this point, the Hamas / Israel fight has all the morality of the mob guys in Goodfella's whacking Tommy in revenge for his killing of the shoe-shine joke guy.  Sure, you're supposed to sympathize with Tommy's side, but only because his is the only one you've been shown, but in reality everyone in the entire movie is scum.
 
2014-07-30 10:09:13 AM  

nekom: real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

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[spagmonster.files.wordpress.com image 290x391]
[www.theblaze.com image 454x639]
You sure?

Members or victims?


Seriously, you people act as if a kid that age throwing a temper tantrum in a restaurant is just a kid, incapable of doing anything but blindly acting out... and simultaneously think these children have any idea what they are doing and actively signed on the dotted line and joined Hamas?  Are Palestinian children that much further advanced than American kids that they are fully aware of the complexities of inter-country war and have actively chosen a side and are lobbing rockets at Israeli soldiers?
 
2014-07-30 10:10:27 AM  

nekom: Bloody William:
It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.

It really is.  The smart thing to do would be for the Palestinians to say "You know what, fark it.  You win, Israel.  We're going to go live somewhere else, because life absolutely SUCKS here and fighting you just makes it suck worse."


That's a nice idea and all, but the sad reality is that there isn't somewhere else they can go live.  Israel pushed them off their land, and no one else wants them on theirs.
 
2014-07-30 10:12:13 AM  

serpent_sky: nekom: real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x268]
[spagmonster.files.wordpress.com image 290x391]
[www.theblaze.com image 454x639]
You sure?

Members or victims?

Seriously, you people act as if a kid that age throwing a temper tantrum in a restaurant is just a kid, incapable of doing anything but blindly acting out... and simultaneously think these children have any idea what they are doing and actively signed on the dotted line and joined Hamas?  Are Palestinian children that much further advanced than American kids that they are fully aware of the complexities of inter-country war and have actively chosen a side and are lobbing rockets at Israeli soldiers?


Sadly, they don't have t be aware to be deadly.
 
2014-07-30 10:13:06 AM  

Karac: nekom: Bloody William:
It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.

It really is.  The smart thing to do would be for the Palestinians to say "You know what, fark it.  You win, Israel.  We're going to go live somewhere else, because life absolutely SUCKS here and fighting you just makes it suck worse."

That's a nice idea and all, but the sad reality is that there isn't somewhere else they can go live.  Israel pushed them off their land, and no one else wants them on theirs.


Notice that Iran isn't saying "We sympathize with our brothers, oppressed by the horrible Israelis. We'd welcome any Palestinians who wish to flee the atrocities with open arms."

Palestinians aren't only victims of violence in Israel. They're convenient PR tools of every state in the area that hates Israel.
 
2014-07-30 10:15:59 AM  
Karac:
That's a nice idea and all, but the sad reality is that there isn't somewhere else they can go live.  Israel pushed them off their land, and no one else wants them on theirs.

I could spare a bedroom.

/yes I know immigration does not work that way
 
2014-07-30 10:18:11 AM  

serpent_sky: nekom: real_headhoncho: somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x268]
[spagmonster.files.wordpress.com image 290x391]
[www.theblaze.com image 454x639]
You sure?

Members or victims?

Seriously, you people act as if a kid that age throwing a temper tantrum in a restaurant is just a kid, incapable of doing anything but blindly acting out... and simultaneously think these children have any idea what they are doing and actively signed on the dotted line and joined Hamas?  Are Palestinian children that much further advanced than American kids that they are fully aware of the complexities of inter-country war and have actively chosen a side and are lobbing rockets at Israeli soldiers?


I suppose the next thing you'll expect us to believe is that this kid isn't actually on a SWAT team?
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2014-07-30 10:19:18 AM  
One weird trick?  Iran has an equivalent to World Net Daily?
 
2014-07-30 10:36:02 AM  

Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.


War is math!

That's definitely stretching the bounds of justification.

I said this yesterday in a thread, and I'll say it again -- The resentments in this war run so deeply, that nobody is thinking with their head. Anybody with any sense is standing on the outside, looking in. We can only grab popcorn and watch the tragedy unfold. The US government has the resources to stop this thing, but a handful of politicians won't let that happen. Sometimes, maybe we should be the world police. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Cervantes, and George Carlin couldn't have come up with something this stupid and tragic in their worst, most drunken hours -- yet here we are.

These assholes on both sides of the conflict are launching missiles at each other. Missiles. And they've been doing it for a long time.

What does it take before somebody says, "Look, we have a humanitarian crisis here, and it's not because the Cinnabon ran out of raisins."
 
2014-07-30 11:12:17 AM  
Does it involve humping a Persian rug?
 
2014-07-30 11:58:02 AM  

nekom: Members or victims?


That's not mutually exclusive.
 
2014-07-30 12:01:07 PM  

Serious Black: real_headhoncho: Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.

The Holocaust? Oh, and Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

Also, what the fark does the Holocaust have to do with this situation? If anything, I'd say the evidence points towards Israel being the ones actually carrying out the genocide of an entire group of people.


They took notes.
 
2014-07-30 12:01:44 PM  
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a bad guy with a gun.
 
2014-07-30 12:02:42 PM  

quatchi: Iran and Qatar are the last two groups who still back Hamas to the point of supplying them with weapons.

And now the Supreme Leader of Iran is asking for other Muslim countries to kick in?

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Pretty much this.  I mean, instead of making Israel the bad guy, you actually have people now saying "Yeah, nothing to see here.  Move along."
 
2014-07-30 12:04:06 PM  
How about we just stop funding the asshattery of both sides.
 
2014-07-30 12:04:23 PM  
This whole f*cking thing is basically Israel shelling Gaza, then saying "stop hitting yourself", over and over and over.

So I can understand "We need to arm the people of Gaza". I don't agree that more weapons will solve anything, but I understand.
 
2014-07-30 12:05:00 PM  
Ironically, maybe Iran arming Hamas more would help. I mean, Israel is on a tear, and doesn't seem to give a rats ass who they kill. If Hamas could inflict similar causalities on Israel, Israel would have to regard them as an equal, and stop killing people.
 
2014-07-30 12:05:59 PM  

Bloody William: Notice that Iran isn't saying "We sympathize with our brothers, oppressed by the horrible Israelis. We'd welcome any Palestinians who wish to flee the atrocities with open arms."


Well why would they?  It's not like they need a couple million refugees, and besides, it's 700 miles away, across several national borders, and a totally different culture.
 
2014-07-30 12:06:23 PM  

Serious Black: And on the flip side, why Israel should have zero outside sympathy, 232 Palestinian children have been killed in the three weeks of combat as compared to 54 Israeli soldiers. I'd love to hear a defense of this greater than 4:1 ratio of defenseless child to uniformed military deaths.


body counts shouldn't be considered because they don't matter except for the three dead Israelis that kicked this whole thing off
 
2014-07-30 12:07:34 PM  
Iran? Didn't we get them to chill?
 
2014-07-30 12:07:58 PM  

Fart_Machine: How about we just stop funding the asshattery of both sides.


Good idea, all we have to do is call our congressman.   HA!
 
2014-07-30 12:08:30 PM  

nekom: Bloody William:
It's a nasty, nasty situation, and no one here is the "good guy." You have two sides of zealous lunatics who can't back down from where they are. There is no option in the minds of either sides' leadership to change what they're doing, and they're too invested in hitting and hitting back and too certain of their moral superiority for any solution to actually work.

It really is.  The smart thing to do would be for the Palestinians to say "You know what, fark it.  You win, Israel.  We're going to go live somewhere else, because life absolutely SUCKS here and fighting you just makes it suck worse."  But you know, holy land and all that.  I suspect there is a tremendous brain drain in Palestine which can't be helping the situation either.  I feel bad for the Palestinians, but most of them aren't really helping the situation either.


Hey just abandon your homeland and anything you can't carry with you and well totally probably stop killing you. Seems fair, right?

I mean, you'd totally take that deal if someone cut Pennsylvania up into ghettos and started bombing them with white phosphorus every third Thursday, right?
 
2014-07-30 12:08:33 PM  

DarnoKonrad: Bloody William: Notice that Iran isn't saying "We sympathize with our brothers, oppressed by the horrible Israelis. We'd welcome any Palestinians who wish to flee the atrocities with open arms."

Well why would they?  It's not like they need a couple million refugees, and besides, it's 700 miles away, across several national borders, and a totally different culture.


I'm not saying it's realistic, I'm just saying it's pretty hypocritical for any of these Middle East states to decry what's happening and not offer any actual assistance or asylum for their brothers in faith who are being so abused by the horrible Zionists. "We'll send guns" isn't trying to help, it's trying to make sure they can keep using the Palestinians are a politically convenient banner to rally around when they want it.
 
2014-07-30 12:09:29 PM  
Arm Gaza? That's a great idea.  Do that.  Use the tunnels or air drop. Smuggle that shiat in.
 
2014-07-30 12:10:15 PM  
The only solution to this is a change of Israeli leadership, a change in Hamas leadership, and the US flatly telling Israel that their funding is over unless they return to the agreed 60s borders.
 
2014-07-30 12:12:23 PM  
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To help spin the good spin in its current stoush with Hamas, the Israeli Defence Force has launched a program called IDF Ranks. It's essentially a game about being a mouthpiece for the Israeli Defence Force.

It's aimed at young internet users, both inside Israel but especially internationally, who are told that by signing up they'll be joining "the ultimate virtual army", and be rewarded with promotions and medals for jumping on social media and spreading the good word about... well, war.

Enlisting the common man to do your dirty work is a trick as old as war itself, but this kind of candy-coloured "gamification" is certainly new. Regardless on your thoughts on the conflict at large, I'd hope most people could see the problems, or at least poor taste, in making a game out of "spreading the truth" about one side's role in a war in which real people are dyin
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2014-07-30 12:16:47 PM  

Bungles: The only solution to this is a change of Israeli leadership, a change in Hamas leadership, and the US flatly telling Israel that their funding is over unless they return to the agreed 60s borders.



A single state solution.  The whole farking area, needs a peace and reconciliation process with co-governance the way N. Ireland and S. Africa was dealt with.  That's the only long term solution to marginalize extremists on both sides -- it also happens to be least realistic at this point in time.
 
2014-07-30 12:18:49 PM  
A) Good luck moving large amount of armaments in to Gaza, asshat

B) IF you did manage to do so, you would simply be guaranteeing that Gaza would get even worse treatment. Israel has tanks, jets, well trained troops, and nukes.

C) Were you tired of not being the biggest asshats in the region or what?
 
2014-07-30 12:19:18 PM  
The Palestinians should be content to live on their reservations.  Continued encroachments by Israeli citizens on the land, and being literally walled in like zoo animals should not inform the Palestinians' actions in any way.
 
2014-07-30 12:19:25 PM  

somedude210: real_headhoncho: Hamas want's to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews with it.

last I checked, those children weren't members of Hamas


Then why did Hamas launch attacks while hiding behind them?
 
2014-07-30 12:20:36 PM  

Ned Stark: It really is. The smart thing to do would be for the Palestinians to say "You know what, fark it. You win, Israel. We're going to go live somewhere else, because life absolutely SUCKS here and fighting you just makes it suck worse." But you know, holy land and all that. I suspect there is a tremendous brain drain in Palestine which can't be helping the situation either. I feel bad for the Palestinians, but most of them aren't really helping the situation either.

Hey just abandon your homeland and anything you can't carry with you and well totally probably stop killing you. Seems fair, right?


It also assumes that people in abject poverty, who are landlocked, suffering, starving, and lacking resources have any means to pack up and leave.  In most cases, they'd have to even be allowed to travel through Israel to get to another country, assuming they'd be welcomed there.

And the United States cannot get on some high horse about other countries openly accepting refugees after Republicans had their repeated shiatfits about children coming to the US over the Mexican border... so that was smart.

Not that I think these people should have to leave their land - holy or otherwise. Israel's idea that they should have to is a lot of where this problem comes from to begin with.
 
2014-07-30 12:20:48 PM  
Ayatollah Assahola.

Bomb Iran.

Death to the Shah!
 
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