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(The New York Times)   So it turns out that Europe has been paying ransom money to Al-Qaeda for years now   (nytimes.com ) divider line
    More: Interesting, al-Qaeda, Europe, United States Department of the Treasury, Institutions of the European Union, Maghreb, Bamako  
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2014-07-30 04:04:27 PM  
What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.
 
2014-07-30 04:29:51 PM  

gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.


How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?
 
2014-07-30 04:51:05 PM  

Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?


Well, that certainly has worked out so well for everyone.
 
2014-07-30 05:07:18 PM  
What do you think much of US aid is?
 
2014-07-30 05:08:16 PM  
Meanwhile, Mali (and other countries where people generally are not being international asshats) get nothing, and they could use help.
 
2014-07-30 05:10:11 PM  
Europe has held me for ransom for decades with this earworm. http://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
 
2014-07-30 05:10:47 PM  
www.gutenberg.org
Not pleased
 
2014-07-30 05:11:25 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: What do you think much of US aid is?


ineffective and wasteful?
 
2014-07-30 05:14:58 PM  

gopher321: Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?

Well, that certainly has worked out so well for everyone.


If you're any variety of white person from Europe or North America it's probably best to not go anywhere in the middle east. Most folks should have enough sense to know when they are not wanted.
 
2014-07-30 05:15:05 PM  
Three suitcases full of cash? That's a rounding error.
i.imgur.com
 
2014-07-30 05:15:22 PM  
yes, yes, Al Qaeda and the global war on terr! The NY Times had to apologize to it's readers for being complicit in the lies that got us into Iraq so I wouldn't trust too much what they are saying here about these ransoms "underwriting" anything but who knows... they might be buying yellowcake with it!

media.giphy.com
 
2014-07-30 05:15:40 PM  

jaybeezey: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: What do you think much of US aid is?

ineffective and wasteful?


Well, besides the obvious!
 
2014-07-30 05:17:22 PM  
Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008

I'm guessing that ransom amount is just a drop in the bucket compared to what they get from the Saudis. Here's how you do it right.

www.tedellis.net

How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish
 
2014-07-30 05:18:27 PM  

gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.


Or: Pay up and have them use that money to kidnap MORE of your citizens.
 
2014-07-30 05:18:43 PM  
Hey that's life in the fast lane
 
2014-07-30 05:23:36 PM  
The article reads like these are tourists being kidnapped.

Couldn't pay me to vacation in those places.
 
2014-07-30 05:24:53 PM  
Anybody up for a fark party in Afghanistan?
 
2014-07-30 05:25:16 PM  

Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?


How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?

/Borders work both ways.
 
2014-07-30 05:27:07 PM  
the united states does not negotiate with terrorists.

...but sounds like europe haggles a little bit.
 
2014-07-30 05:28:52 PM  
So if you ever get kidnapped by terrorists, tell them you're French.
 
2014-07-30 05:29:01 PM  

Munchkin City Coroner: Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?

How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?

/Borders work both ways.


Muslims get pissed off by our very existence.
 
2014-07-30 05:31:14 PM  
Let's see if I go to some third world shiat hole I could get kidnapped.
Maybe I'll just stay home.
 
2014-07-30 05:38:17 PM  
America  first foreign war was to stop paying ransom to Mooslims.
 
2014-07-30 05:42:05 PM  
After all the sh*t Europeans gave us for spying on our "allies," it turns out we were right to bug theigovernment phones.

What a bunch of whiny treachorous cowards.

When someone kidnaps your citizens you kill them, watch Captain Phillips you don't give them money to do it again.
 
2014-07-30 05:44:27 PM  
America has a proud history of paying off terrorists: 

blog.al.com

We live in a glass house on this issue.
 
2014-07-30 05:45:35 PM  

Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?


Bomb the fark out of the whole situation. When they kidnap someone else, so it again. Eventually they will stop kidnapping.

/Only 50% kidding
 
2014-07-30 05:46:36 PM  
do* it again
 
2014-07-30 05:51:20 PM  
The most ridiculous "we're totally not paying a ransom to terrorists" story has got to be Gracia Burnham. Private individuals raise the money to give the US government so they could arrange to pay for the release of this missionary couple. We couldn't actually communicate with Abu Sayyaf itself, so we instead gave the money to a guy we knew wasn't a member of the group but had ties to them and asked him to pass it on to them to secure the release. Then we sat on our hands for a month or two as the hostages were still being held with no sign if the ransomers ever even got the money until the Philippine Army rolled in and attacked their compound, resulting in the death of the husband but the rescue of the wife.
 
2014-07-30 05:54:12 PM  
As a European, I am seriously considering becoming the local arm of Al-Qaeda and then kidnapping myself.
 
2014-07-30 06:02:13 PM  
operation swordfish.
kidnap one of ours, we kill 100 of yours.
bomb a bus, we bomb a city of yours.
9/11? we start a war...
 
2014-07-30 06:07:09 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Anybody up for a fark party in Afghanistan?


Come mistah Taliban, Tali da banana.
 
2014-07-30 06:09:06 PM  
There's a word for this sort of thing.
 
2014-07-30 06:09:22 PM  
Kidnapping Europeans for ransom has been a past-time in Northern Africa for hundreds of years.
 
2014-07-30 06:11:27 PM  

This text is now purple: There's a word for this sort of thing.


SOP?
 
2014-07-30 06:13:25 PM  

Need_MindBleach: Kidnapping Europeans for ransom has been a past-time in Northern Africa for hundreds of years.


THOUSANDS of years.
 
2014-07-30 06:15:02 PM  

borg: America  first foreign war was to stop paying ransom to Mooslims.


To the shores of Tripoliiiiii.......
 
2014-07-30 06:15:24 PM  

leevis: Munchkin City Coroner: Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?

How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?

/Borders work both ways.

Muslims get pissed off by our very existence.

being better off than them.

Let's be fair, if they still were the leading world power like during the Dark Ages, they'd probably be less psychotic.  They'll stop killing, kidnapping, and bombing when we agree to let them rob us blind.
 
2014-07-30 06:15:44 PM  

Pull the Plug on Grannie: Bomb the fark out of the whole situation. When they kidnap someone else, so it again. Eventually they will stop kidnapping.

That's worked out very well for Israel as we've seen recently.

Kraftwerk Orange: [www.gutenberg.org image 467x640]
Not pleased


I've always wondered who that street was named after when I was in school.  Now I know, and you are correct - he would not be pleased.
 
2014-07-30 06:16:31 PM  
So how soon can we incarcerate and kill their citizens at USA and Europe?  You know, their kids are receiving an education at our finest institutions, and their extended family is probably making a career here in the USA, probably as a 7-Eleven cashier or taxi driver.  How soon before we do an eye-for-an-eye?

/ And Mexico does the same s*t, don't be surprised the same comes your way.
 
2014-07-30 06:16:43 PM  

leevis: Munchkin City Coroner: Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?

How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?

/Borders work both ways.

Muslims get pissed off by our very existence.


I'd be interested to know by what scientific measure you determined this.  Proving your hypothesis would require some sort of control group that wasn't previously affected by his hypothesis.  As near as I can tell the only place you could possibly find data proving that would be Magic Rainbow Unicorn Land.

With that said, fark 'em anyway, there are right ways and wrong ways to be pissed off.  But you're still a farktard.
 
2014-07-30 06:16:58 PM  
In before moral relativism right wingers.....

Errrr i mean left wingers cause its bad when right wingers do it.
 
2014-07-30 06:22:38 PM  
Danegeld worked so well for the English and French years ago.

so now it alQuedaGeld ?

  Rudyard Kipling had it right :


It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay  any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"

// my emphasis on that last line
// not planning to vacation on that side of the earth anyway
// paying the Danes made no sense 1000 years ago, makes no sense now.
// because that money will come back to bite you in the most uncomfortable places sooner rather then later
 
2014-07-30 06:31:36 PM  
lt

Rhypskallion: Meanwhile, Mali (and other countries where people generally are not being international asshats) get nothing, and they could use help.


Detroit could use help, not to mention Martin O'Malley's Baltimore
 
2014-07-30 06:35:42 PM  

Munchkin City Coroner: Calmamity: gopher321: What a lousy farking choice: pay up and see those funds go to future terrorist operations (maybe against your own country) or don't pay and see someone's head sawed off on Youtube.

How about pay up then hunt the motherfu*kers down and assassinate them?

How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?

/Borders work both ways.


The US Border barely works at all.
 
2014-07-30 06:39:50 PM  
You guys. I just had a *really great idea* for a way to make big money, fast!
 
2014-07-30 06:40:17 PM  

TheWhoppah: America has a proud history of paying off terrorists:

[blog.al.com image 240x158]

We live in a glass house on this issue.



So...complete transparency?
 
2014-07-30 06:57:16 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Three suitcases full of cash? That's a rounding error.
[i.imgur.com image 372x192]


Dammit. Spent too much time finding a supporting article.
 
2014-07-30 07:06:07 PM  
the world is fukt up.

i'm leaving.
 
2014-07-30 07:29:46 PM  

Munchkin City Coroner: How about not meddle in other peoples' affairs and not piss them off in the first place?


The only way to not piss them off in the first place is to be Muslim.  But make sure you are the right kind of Muslim because the wrong kinds are an insult to allah.  Al-Qaeda isn't exactly the type of people to embrace diversity.
 
2014-07-30 07:43:32 PM  
No one wants to lose a loved one to a terrorist when they can pay and have them released. This isn't a simple matter at all. A grain of sand isn't' a sandstorm, and a raindrop isn't a flood. Therefore we can delay one anti-terrorist action because why not? One action isn't an operation.
 
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