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2014-07-30 06:43:40 AM
Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.
 
2014-07-30 08:13:44 AM

flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.


That's true, except it isn't

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."
 
2014-07-30 08:21:51 AM
Isn't McDonald's pretty much trans fat free now?
 
2014-07-30 08:21:55 AM
Even if he had died of a heart attack, at age 72 that's natural causes.  Anything that kills you at age 72 is natural causes.  Septuagenarian gets hit by a bus?  If he were younger, he would have jumped out the way.
 
2014-07-30 08:24:58 AM

YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't. 

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."


And why was he out on icy pavement the day after a major snowstorm? Because he was having a heart attack and needed to get to the hospital, duh
 
2014-07-30 08:40:55 AM
So this is a dumb article.  All it needs to say is, "sugars, processed carbs, simple starches, and MSG make you hungrier" and leave it at that.  The entire reason for the "whole grain" craze is because eating processed flour is like pouring nitrous into your tank.
 
2014-07-30 08:48:17 AM

YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't. 

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."


and if you scrolled up just 2 inches you could have read:

"Atkins suffered a cardiac arrest in April 2002 ..."
 
2014-07-30 08:50:08 AM
HFLC rocks for controlling hunger. Can go 24 hours+ without food, no crashes, and no grumbling, and that's while working and exercising, not sitting on a matt meditating.
 
2014-07-30 08:51:38 AM

moistD: YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't.
"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."

And why was he out on icy pavement the day after a major snowstorm? Because he was having a heart attack and needed to get to the hospital, duh


the heart attack effect, starring ashton kutcher
 
2014-07-30 08:52:02 AM
 
2014-07-30 08:52:28 AM

NakedDrummer: HFLC rocks for controlling hunger. Can go 24 hours+ without food, no crashes, and no grumbling, and that's while working and exercising, not sitting on a matt meditating.


But when you have to go to the bathroom... man, I feel sorry for you.
 
2014-07-30 08:52:49 AM

Muta: YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't. 

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."

and if you scrolled up just 2 inches you could have read:

"Atkins suffered a cardiac arrest in April 2002 ..."


Keyword champ.He didn't die from a heart attack, although he had plenty of opportunities. He hit his head on the pavement.
 
2014-07-30 08:53:02 AM

NakedDrummer: sitting on a matt

Go on. . .
 
2014-07-30 08:54:16 AM

NakedDrummer: HFLC


High Fructose Lobster Codgers?
 
2014-07-30 08:59:39 AM

reillan: NakedDrummer: HFLC rocks for controlling hunger. Can go 24 hours+ without food, no crashes, and no grumbling, and that's while working and exercising, not sitting on a matt meditating.

But when you have to go to the bathroom... man, I feel sorry for you.


Why? Vegans are the ones you want to avoid anywhere near a bathroom.
 
2014-07-30 09:00:37 AM
Pizza shouldn't be on that list. It takes much longer to digest and your sugar goes up over a much longer amount of time than simple carbs starches and sugars do
 
2014-07-30 09:01:08 AM

reillan: NakedDrummer: HFLC rocks for controlling hunger. Can go 24 hours+ without food, no crashes, and no grumbling, and that's while working and exercising, not sitting on a matt meditating.

But when you have to go to the bathroom... man, I feel sorry for you.


With enough water, going is no problem... the only real problem is the HF-rated stomach without HF (when you don't eat it for some reason)... everything is Chinese food to that insatiable collection of cardboard-eating tapeworms. I feel sorry for the drains in office buildings, and the poor cleaning staff that has to deal with the consequences of my healthy gut.

/people cut corners on that too
//WCs and drains made for people on white-bread diets
///I have a Drano bottle in my office drawer
////No whole-grain like fresh-baked, traditional German whole grain. The bread in this country is positively sinful ^_^
//Der Vollkorn-Slashie für Sie!
 
2014-07-30 09:02:57 AM

dragonchild: NakedDrummer: sitting on a matt
Go on. . .


Yeah, a guy with no arms and no legs..
 
2014-07-30 09:03:20 AM
Alcohol?   Who thinks alcohol fills you up? I always understood a glass of wine  (or beer) with dinner helped to enhance your appetite and the food....


/silly
/water. water doesn't really fill you up either......
 
2014-07-30 09:08:29 AM

Muta: YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.
That's true, except it isn't.
"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."
and if you scrolled up just 2 inches you could have read:
"Atkins suffered a cardiac arrest in April 2002 ..."


He had a heart attack for a year? That must have been painful. It's a mercy that he hit his head and died when he did, then.
 
2014-07-30 09:08:48 AM

Muta: YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't. 

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."

and if you scrolled up just 2 inches you could have read:

"Atkins suffered a cardiac arrest in April 2002 ..."


What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger! :P
 
2014-07-30 09:11:39 AM
Sushi
You may think that you're being healthy by choosing a mixed box of this Japanese specialty but the truth is that sushi is more white rice than protein. A California roll has over 30 grams of carbohydrates that is the equivalent of three slices of white bread. Cue the blood sugar highs.


I thought we were talking about sushi.

/Always order sashimi.
 
2014-07-30 09:12:15 AM

happydude45: Pizza shouldn't be on that list. It takes much longer to digest and your sugar goes up over a much longer amount of time than simple carbs starches and sugars do


Pizza? Gotham city's not even known for it. How does this conform with your new years' resolution? Carbohydrates, sugary tomato paste, processed dairy. I expected more from you.
 
2014-07-30 09:13:28 AM
Alcohol
There's nothing better than kicking back with a cold beer or a deliciously shaken cocktail at the end of the day, but it's not going to fill you up.


The author has obviously never drank his dinner before.
 
2014-07-30 09:14:50 AM

dragonchild: Go on. . .

NakedDrummer: Yeah, a guy with no arms and no legs..

Uh. . . I came?  No, wait, that's racist.

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2014-07-30 09:26:53 AM

Epicedion: NakedDrummer: HFLC

High Fructose Lobster Codgers?


i.imgflip.com
 
2014-07-30 10:04:35 AM

Strik3r: Alcohol?   Who thinks alcohol fills you up? I always understood a glass of wine  (or beer) with dinner helped to enhance your appetite and the food....


/silly
/water. water doesn't really fill you up either......


Your not drinking enough. Down a fifth of cheap vodka followed by a bottle of wine and it will kill your appetite for the next 48 hrs.
 
2014-07-30 10:06:35 AM

happydude45: Pizza shouldn't be on that list. It takes much longer to digest and your sugar goes up over a much longer amount of time than simple carbs starches and sugars do


That's pretty much the problem with the glycaemic index in general. When you combine foods as in, say, a meal humans might eat then the glycaemic index of individual parts stop mattering much. A meal of roast chicken, a green salad, and green beans has a similar glycaemic load to a meal of roast chicken, a green salad, and a white bread roll. There's also been other research that messes with it like the the  Satiety Index which showed that boiled potatoes, despite having a high GI, were best at satisfying people beating out low GI foods like eggs and beef.
 
2014-07-30 10:27:03 AM
I've always been a guinea pig for cholesterol studies, even after I quit an official study program at the Baylor College of Medicine 16 years ago. I've been on Fark over eight years. I must have described that at some point. Too lazy to look.

I happen to be fairly susceptible to carbohydrates affecting my triglycerides, which add to the cholesterol count.
Yes, some carbs are slightly better than others, but volume makes a difference.

TL;DR: Carbs are evil
 
2014-07-30 10:36:23 AM
Obvious tag on a snack break because it ate too many carbs?
 
2014-07-30 11:08:54 AM

YodaBlues: flucto: Or would if he hadn't died of the World's easiest to predict heart attack.

That's true, except it isn't. 

"On April 8, 2003, at age 72, a day after a major snowstorm in New York, Atkins slipped on an icy pavement, suffering severe head trauma. He spent nine days in intensive care before dying on April 17, 2003, from complications from his head injury."


"A shame, to go so sudden like that."

"He was in intensive care for eight weeks!"

"No, but I mean at the very end, when he actually died - that was extremely sudden!"
 
2014-07-30 11:16:27 AM

SVenus: I've always been a guinea pig for cholesterol studies, even after I quit an official study program at the Baylor College of Medicine 16 years ago. I've been on Fark over eight years. I must have described that at some point. Too lazy to look.

I happen to be fairly susceptible to carbohydrates affecting my triglycerides, which add to the cholesterol count.
Yes, some carbs are slightly better than others, but volume makes a difference.

TL;DR: Carbs are evil


"Carbs are evil" is a blanket statement people might think applies to everyone and all carbs. However you previously said "I happen to be fairly susceptible to carbohydrates affecting my triglycerides", which indicates the problem lies with you, not with all carbs.

Carbs are essential. Quality and quantity or carb rich foods can be debated, but they're not evil.
 
2014-07-30 11:20:39 AM

sprawl15: happydude45: Pizza shouldn't be on that list. It takes much longer to digest and your sugar goes up over a much longer amount of time than simple carbs starches and sugars do

Pizza? Gotham city's not even known for it. How does this conform with your new years' resolution? Carbohydrates, sugary tomato paste, processed dairy. I expected more from you.


I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't make new years resolutions.
 
2014-07-30 11:35:32 AM
Pastries may be bad for you, the the French breakfast isn't fill your gob with half a dozen half baked pastries Billy from accounting brought in.  A croissant, coffee, and juice sounds good right about now, if I hadn't already had breakfast.

And yes, they may make you feel hungry, but you still have to make the decision to stuff more food in your face and couple it with a sedentary lifestyle to get American Fat.
 
2014-07-30 11:48:16 AM

big pig peaches: Strik3r: Alcohol?   Who thinks alcohol fills you up? I always understood a glass of wine  (or beer) with dinner helped to enhance your appetite and the food....


/silly
/water. water doesn't really fill you up either......

Your not drinking enough. Down a fifth of cheap vodka followed by a bottle of wine and it will kill your appetite for the next 48 hrs.


A man drink like that and he don't eat, he is going to die.
 
2014-07-30 12:07:28 PM

Victoly: big pig peaches: Strik3r: Alcohol?   Who thinks alcohol fills you up? I always understood a glass of wine  (or beer) with dinner helped to enhance your appetite and the food....


/silly
/water. water doesn't really fill you up either......

Your not drinking enough. Down a fifth of cheap vodka followed by a bottle of wine and it will kill your appetite for the next 48 hrs.

A man drink like that and he don't eat, he is going to die.


When?
 
2014-07-30 01:14:41 PM
A better example of this is described in the South Beach Diet book, by cardiologist Arthur Agatston. Following the south beach diet helped me lose weight and I didn't feel hungry. It also improved my cholesterol levels. It's like a healthy "atkins" that allows you to eventually eat most foods again. This sounds like an ad, but basically the science is there in the book to back it up. The diet was designed for people in danger of a heart attack, not specifically to lose weight.

/though they did get gimmicky with the bars and meals, like all popular diets
 
2014-07-30 06:36:17 PM
All I know is that when I cut down on starchy type carbs (bread/rice mainly), my heartburn gets a lot better.
 
2014-07-31 01:00:27 AM

Disaster Transport: A better example of this is described in the South Beach Diet book, by cardiologist Arthur Agatston. Following the south beach diet helped me lose weight and I didn't feel hungry. It also improved my cholesterol levels. It's like a healthy "atkins" that allows you to eventually eat most foods again. This sounds like an ad, but basically the science is there in the book to back it up. The diet was designed for people in danger of a heart attack, not specifically to lose weight.

/though they did get gimmicky with the bars and meals, like all popular diets


After the weight loss phase the atkins diet has plenty of fruits and veggies iirc.
 
2014-07-31 01:49:31 AM
Um, most of what's on that list fill me up just fine, you have to be some serious fat ass if pizza doesn't fill you up.

"A lot of Asian food uses the flavour enhancer MSG."

Very few Chinese restaurants us MSG anymore, most the ones I know if stopped back in the 80s.
 
2014-07-31 01:43:43 PM

NakedDrummer: reillan: NakedDrummer: HFLC rocks for controlling hunger. Can go 24 hours+ without food, no crashes, and no grumbling, and that's while working and exercising, not sitting on a matt meditating.

But when you have to go to the bathroom... man, I feel sorry for you.

Why? Vegans are the ones you want to avoid anywhere near a bathroom.


You must be referring to the myth of vegan farts...

True story: your intestinal bacteria changes depending on your diet.  If you eat a diet of only veggies, it produces bacteria that handle those veggies.  If you eat any meat at all, it produces bacteria to handle those meat.  The problem is, you can only have one or the other - so the moment you eat any meat, your whole system is screwed up for veggies.  That's what makes veggies give off horrible flatulence.  A vegan, however, will not have that problem.
 
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