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(KTVU Bay Area News)   Only in 'Merica could an attempt to serve an eviction notice lead to an intense standoff with the SWAT team   (ktvu.com) divider line 90
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2014-07-30 12:39:56 AM  
"Empty house" seems somehow relevant.
 
2014-07-30 02:33:19 AM  
Only in 'Merica are police wannabe rambos armed to the teeth and covered in armor but lacking the balls to do what police in most civilized countries would gladly attempt in a suit and tie.
 
2014-07-30 08:41:30 AM  
The more gun power you need, the more illigitimate your cause.
 
2014-07-30 08:42:02 AM  
Don't they have some road work to do?
 
2014-07-30 08:42:18 AM  
I guess subby hasn't seen the news about Israel and Gaza?
 
2014-07-30 08:43:35 AM  
Only in Murica will police engage in a standoff with an empty house.
 
2014-07-30 08:43:58 AM  
I thought "'murica" was the cool, hip word being used these days.
 
2014-07-30 08:44:19 AM  
Hopefully this is a followup to that AirBnB thread from the other day.
 
2014-07-30 08:44:25 AM  
I really farking hate "'Merica" or "Murica." A lot.
 
2014-07-30 08:46:45 AM  

Gunny Highway: I really farking hate "'Merica" or "Murica." A lot.


Do you hate it for its free dumbs?
 
2014-07-30 08:46:52 AM  
Isn't the name "SWAT" kind of localized to the US? So it makes sense that no other country would have a "standoff with a SWAT team".
 
2014-07-30 08:47:09 AM  
"We found a note" seems strangely vague.
 
2014-07-30 08:48:54 AM  
There were no notes, they're lying.
 
2014-07-30 08:49:07 AM  

abhorrent1: Only in Murica will police engage in a standoff with an empty house.


Where there was suspicion of explosives (people not required for bombs)
 
2014-07-30 08:49:11 AM  
so they entered his house, illegally, then seized his guns without a warrant, and are now trying to find a crime to pin on the guy?

/murrica, fark yeah.
 
2014-07-30 08:50:47 AM  
Actually subs, I know in France the Communist Party used to physically obstruct eviction efforts with barricades and bodies. Live ones. You know, their own.

Of course, I don't know if SWAT teams often got involved.

They might still do it, I don't know.
 
2014-07-30 08:51:08 AM  

Solty Dog: "We found a note" seems strangely vague.


No. That's perfectly cromulent evidence. Only evildoers leave notes that say, "Oh hai. I'm evil. I have da bombs!!!! hahaha".

It's in a cop manual somewhere, I'm sure. Or was that a comic book. What's the difference, again?

Ahh, sweet, sweet justice. Served SWAT style.
 
2014-07-30 08:55:35 AM  

Vertdang: so they entered his house, illegally, then seized his guns without a warrant, and are now trying to find a crime to pin on the guy?

/murrica, fark yeah.


They probably entered legally, but the rest is true.

Thank God we have rigorous requirements to be a cop in the US.
 
2014-07-30 08:55:58 AM  
There was a case in Jacksonville, Fl about 15 or so years ago where SWAT was called about a standoff deputies were having with a supposed armed man barricaded in a house, during the hours long standoff the news kept panning the small crowd of onlookers behind the barricade and there was always this one dude grinning and yelling for the guy to give up, after about 3 hours or so one of the cops finally realized that the dude who was standing behind em cheering em on was the dude they were allegedly in a standoff with...
 
2014-07-30 08:56:07 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Isn't the name "SWAT" kind of localized to the US? So it makes sense that no other country would have a "standoff with a SWAT team".




Special weapons and tactics. The idea isn't unique, although we pioneered it.

Most countries just wouldn't put up with the idea of a militarized civilian police force.
Then again the idea of using the military on domestic issues is oddly taboo in the US.

So the city hires armed men to do a paramilitary job.
 
2014-07-30 08:56:44 AM  

Wolf892: Who do they send when it's a member of SWAT that refuses to leave their house when being evicted?


Shoot the landlord's dog?
 
2014-07-30 08:58:04 AM  

Destructor: Only evildoers leave notes that say, "Oh hai. I'm evil. I have da bombs!!!! hahaha".


So they got signal. Main screen turn on?
 
2014-07-30 08:58:25 AM  
That's not true subby, there are a variety of crappy 3rd world hellholes where something like this might happen.
 
2014-07-30 08:59:28 AM  

doglover: Only in 'Merica are police wannabe rambos armed to the teeth and covered in armor but lacking the balls to do what police in most civilized countries would gladly attempt in a suit and tie.


You sir are a gentlemen, scholar and a carpenter that hit that nail squarely on the head.
 
2014-07-30 09:01:39 AM  

Solty Dog: Destructor: Only evildoers leave notes that say, "Oh hai. I'm evil. I have da bombs!!!! hahaha".

So they got signal. Main screen turn on?


Send every SWAT. For Great Justice!
 
2014-07-30 09:05:11 AM  

Bowen: That's not true subby, there are a variety of crappy 3rd world hellholes where something like this might happen.


Thinking of our neighbors to the south, but then, their guys are actual professionals, hired at great expense by drug kingpins.  Our guys are high school GED-educated, overweight, and glassy-eyed.
 
2014-07-30 09:07:04 AM  
SWAT isn't just a American thing, in the UK they are called Firearms units and function the same way as our SWAT teams do, except that they seem to have a higher than average tendency to either shoot one another or innocents than either American SWAT or regular deputies when you compare number of callouts and callouts with shootings adjusted per capita
 
2014-07-30 09:07:18 AM  
I miss when they used to call it Amerika.
 
2014-07-30 09:07:49 AM  
Every bullet is a tiny BOMB.
Take his BOMB launchers too.
We can't allow that in Mexifornia.
 
2014-07-30 09:09:29 AM  

way south: Most countries just wouldn't put up with the idea of a militarized civilian police force.


We've got equivalents in France, GIGN for gendarmerie and RAID for police. They are elite forces, not just regular policemen with a bit more training and weapons, but they are certainly NOT used for such trivial reasons as the swat in the USA.
 
2014-07-30 09:10:01 AM  
As a landlord, I can see a pissed off tenant doing stupid shiat like this so I am getting a kick.

/leaving a bomb note? nah, I have one that fills a 5 gallon bucket of water and piss (must of drank budlight) - he's waiting for the health department to come by so he can dump all over the floor and claim I refuse to fix stuff.
//yep health department came, showed that he owes over 2 months back rent; they laughed and left without even writing me up, told them they can re-inspect soon as he's evicted
 
2014-07-30 09:10:18 AM  

doglover: Only in 'Merica are police wannabe rambos armed to the teeth and covered in armor but lacking the balls to do what police in most civilized countries would gladly attempt in a suit and tie.


Thread is over in the second comment.
 
2014-07-30 09:12:38 AM  
Is it just me, or does the "standoff with an empty house" scenario seem to happen a lot?
 
2014-07-30 09:13:32 AM  

freewill: Wolf892: Who do they send when it's a member of SWAT that refuses to leave their house when being evicted?

Shoot the landlord's dog?


Drum up drug related charges on the landlord, sieze the property, then give it to the SWAT member as a bonus.
 
2014-07-30 09:13:56 AM  
Here's another TL;DR version: Cops 'tac up' (yeah, they say that) to evict a guy, then they mill around for a few hours, and finally steal his guns.
 
2014-07-30 09:15:23 AM  
He didn't love Big Brother enough. Only by the infinite mercy of Minluv is he still alive, and will remain alive until he, too, learns to love Big Brother.

/a trip to Room 101 should do the trick
//he will confess to being Howard Payne from Speed, and renounce his crimes shortly before the authorities detonate all the bombs he wired up in his house
///then he will be beheaded by train car, to give us the Hollywood ending we expect and demand
 
2014-07-30 09:15:34 AM  

Destructor: Solty Dog: Destructor: Only evildoers leave notes that say, "Oh hai. I'm evil. I have da bombs!!!! hahaha".

So they got signal. Main screen turn on?

Send every SWAT. For Great Justice!


EVV-REE-WONNNE!
 
2014-07-30 09:16:07 AM  
So...the SWAT team entered the residence multiple times, and EOD sent in three robots, and they still didn't know the place was empty?
 
2014-07-30 09:19:43 AM  

shirtsbyeric: I miss when they used to call it Amerika.


U.S.S.A is kinda cool, too
 
2014-07-30 09:20:35 AM  
The people in the thread obviously have never talked to a Cook County Sheriff. There are people who will engage in violent behavior to stop an eviction. Basically, the Sheriff comes with a piece of paper saying "get out." The tenant/foreclosee pulls out a weapon and says "make me."
 
2014-07-30 09:21:21 AM  

padraig: way south: Most countries just wouldn't put up with the idea of a militarized civilian police force.

We've got equivalents in France, GIGN for gendarmerie and RAID for police. They are elite forces, not just regular policemen with a bit more training and weapons, but they are certainly NOT used for such trivial reasons as the swat in the USA.




The difference is in that extra training and structure, I think.
Many swat forces in the US are cops playing dress up.

/They do one entry drill and think they know everything.
 
2014-07-30 09:22:09 AM  

Cybernetic: Is it just me, or does the "standoff with an empty house" scenario seem to happen a lot?


It does really seem that if the SWAT guys think they might actually need to make use of their special weapons and tactics, the tactic they prefer is waiting the subject out. Conversely, if they think they are just there to serve a supeona or a fine or a search warrant for nonviolent crimes, they act like they are in a Tom Clancy movie.
 
2014-07-30 09:23:04 AM  

MooseBayou: Bowen: That's not true subby, there are a variety of crappy 3rd world hellholes where something like this might happen.

Thinking of our neighbors to the south, but then, their guys are actual professionals, hired at great expense by drug kingpins.  Our guys are high school GED-educated, overweight, and glassy-eyed.


Nothing proffesional about some coked up farmers and poor folk from South America. Zetas aside of course.
 
2014-07-30 09:29:11 AM  

way south: Most countries just wouldn't put up with the idea of a militarized civilian police force.


Really? Because most have them. That's what gendarmes are, and how they are different from the military and the civilian police.
 
2014-07-30 09:30:00 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: MooseBayou: Bowen: That's not true subby, there are a variety of crappy 3rd world hellholes where something like this might happen.

Thinking of our neighbors to the south, but then, their guys are actual professionals, hired at great expense by drug kingpins.  Our guys are high school GED-educated, overweight, and glassy-eyed.

Nothing proffesional about some coked up farmers and poor folk from South America. Zetas aside of course.


Time for some professional chainsaw beheading videos to show their professionalism.
 
2014-07-30 09:30:11 AM  

zeroman987: The people in the thread obviously have never talked to a Cook County Sheriff. There are people who will engage in violent behavior to stop an eviction. Basically, the Sheriff comes with a piece of paper saying "get out." The tenant/foreclosee pulls out a weapon and says "make me."


It's okay. People think every criminal's an Otis and an LEO shouldn't carry a gun as long as one among them has one bullet.

People got all torqued off during the search for the living Boston Bomber because Boston Police, the Staties and every other LE agency brought out every piece of heavy equipment they could find.

BECAUSE ONE POLICE OFFICER WAS MURDERED FOR HIS GUN AND THE BOMBERS HAD THROWN A PRESSURE COOKER BOMB AND SEVERAL PIPE BOMBS AT OFFICERS EARLIER.

People want to be able to commit crimes in this country with little fear of violence visited upon them by LEAs. Sorry, when you join the community of criminals you become one of them. And some of your compatriots are extremely violent. So you have to be considered and treated with the same expectations of you committing violent acts against police officers. Sorry but the halcyon days of being talked to and receiving suspended sentences are gone.
 
2014-07-30 09:31:54 AM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: BECAUSE ONE POLICE OFFICER WAS MURDERED FOR HIS GUN AND THE BOMBERS HAD THROWN A PRESSURE COOKER BOMB AND SEVERAL PIPE BOMBS AT OFFICERS EARLIER.


I have been informed in gun-control threads that the best way to prevent a felon from killing you for your gun is to not possess a gun. Is that flawed logic?
 
2014-07-30 09:32:38 AM  

This text is now purple: way south: Most countries just wouldn't put up with the idea of a militarized civilian police force.

Really? Because most have them. That's what gendarmes are, and how they are different from the military and the civilian police.


My mind keeps jumping to videos of Russian special police forces farking up guys who run illegal vodka distilleries.
 
2014-07-30 09:35:01 AM  

Gunny Highway: I really farking hate "'Merica" or "Murica." A lot.


Where's Earl Pitts these daze?
 
2014-07-30 09:36:37 AM  
I find it disturbing that KTVU doesn't print the name of the person and instead notes that the police haven't released it. They clearly have the name; they interviewed neighbors.

Do they submit all of their copy to the Police for approval?
 
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