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(Daily Kos)   Christie 2011: If you allow me to cut pensions, I promise I will continue to fund them. Christie 2014: "Promises were made that can't be kept"   (dailykos.com ) divider line
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2014-07-29 06:46:59 PM  
What a goddamn asshole.  Teachers, firefighters, cops, all had to pay more towards their retirement and their healthcare coverage and this is what they get 3 years later.  Absolutely nothing.  Oh, wait--less than nothing.
 
2014-07-29 06:53:59 PM  
This is more damning than bridgegate IMO.  If there's one thing that should never be farked with, it's pensions.  The employee does their part, they're owed what they were promised.  Find a way to make it work, raise taxes, whatever.
 
2014-07-29 06:56:14 PM  
And nothing bad will come of this for the fat asshole, he'll still go home at night and sleep like a baby.
 
2014-07-29 06:56:26 PM  
He's been a spectacular failure as governor.
 
2014-07-29 07:02:12 PM  
Oh, my. The Repulican lied?

Say it ain't so!
 
2014-07-29 07:04:13 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: He's been a spectacular failure as governor.


Not true. He has annoyed liberals, the highest calling of any "conservative."
 
2014-07-29 07:05:35 PM  
I think we're still not addressing the real problem here:

Christ, this man is so FAT.

Seriously. He's about as big as a Buick.

(if your people go after Hillary in the looks department, so will I)
 
2014-07-29 07:16:13 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: He's been a spectacular failure as governor.


Still better than the head of cabbage with no message that ran against him. "I'm not Chris Christie" is not a platform!
 
2014-07-29 07:21:16 PM  

ManateeGag: Still better than the head of cabbage with no message that ran against him. "I'm not Chris Christie" is not a platform!


I'm not so sure a head of cabbage wouldn't have done better.
 
2014-07-29 07:25:54 PM  
Hey everyone has to chip in and help out and we'll get through this

... magical time machine ..

hahaha oh you f*cking retards actually believed all that shiat hahahahahaha
 
2014-07-29 07:29:50 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: ManateeGag: Still better than the head of cabbage with no message that ran against him. "I'm not Chris Christie" is not a platform!

I'm not so sure a head of cabbage wouldn't have done better.


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Once you go green, you'll never go back!
 
2014-07-29 07:30:05 PM  
He has actions which negatively affect the middle class? Man, he really DOES want that Republican frontrunner status. They will eat that shiat up!
 
2014-07-29 07:30:40 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: ManateeGag: Still better than the head of cabbage with no message that ran against him. "I'm not Chris Christie" is not a platform!

I'm not so sure a head of cabbage wouldn't have done better.


You don't know how hard it is going through life with a cabbage for a head. Shame on you.
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2014-07-29 07:31:36 PM  

fusillade762: Once you go green, you'll never go back!


/shakes tiny fist
/50 farking seconds too late
 
2014-07-29 07:41:09 PM  

Irving Maimway: fusillade762: Once you go green, you'll never go back!

/shakes tiny fist
/50 farking seconds too late


I figured I'd have to be speedy with that one :)
 
2014-07-29 07:53:04 PM  
Hence my Republican dad's hatred for him. Swore up and down to the cops he wouldn't touch their money, went after it practically first thing.
 
2014-07-29 08:07:26 PM  

robsul82: Hence my Republican dad's hatred for him. Swore up and down to the cops he wouldn't touch their money, went after it practically first thing.


and yet, the rank and file GOP will line up around the block to vote Republican come next election cycle.
 
2014-07-29 08:13:10 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: He's been a spectacular failure as governor.


If he's underfunded infrastructure, created a massive transfer payment from poor to rich, weakened the bargaining power of employees, hurt the poor, sold off state assets in return for political contributions and generally allowed the legislative system of the state to be for sale to the highest bidder then he has been a great republican success.
 
2014-07-29 08:14:00 PM  
"Welcome to the real world, folks."

Welcome to political irrelevancy, Christie.
 
2014-07-29 08:23:03 PM  

Tigger: If he's underfunded infrastructure, created a massive transfer payment from poor to rich, weakened the bargaining power of employees, hurt the poor, sold off state assets in return for political contributions and generally allowed the legislative system of the state to be for sale to the highest bidder then he has been a great republican success.


He's also managed to create a $3.5B deficit and get NJ's credit rating downgraded SIX times. A true leader of the GOP.
 
2014-07-29 08:26:17 PM  

kronicfeld: Not true. He has annoyed liberals, the highest calling of any "conservative."


But he thanked Obama after hurricane Sandy. So he's the worst of all worlds.

Can the employees sue for breach of contract?
 
2014-07-29 08:32:38 PM  
Gee...where are all the screaming Republican's - FLIP-FLOP!!!
 
2014-07-29 08:33:13 PM  
They came for the firemen and the policemen and other public servants and I did not speak out ...
 
2014-07-29 08:33:33 PM  
Yep, this is the real world. At least as it's been since the 1980s. Labor makes compromises and they just end up being compromised.
 
2014-07-29 08:34:55 PM  
"Promises were made that can't be kept."
-FTA

He should have ran on a platform of "Promises made won't be kept."
 
2014-07-29 08:38:05 PM  
"Promises were made that can't be kept," Christie said of the state's public-employee pension system. "Welcome to the real world, folks."

Christie, what an asshole.
 
2014-07-29 08:38:20 PM  
If only there was some way for labor to unite in numbers for a common goal... that also didn't make supply side baby Jesus cry. Because White, English speaking Baby JesusTM hates anything that doesn't directly pour money on rich people.
 
2014-07-29 08:40:35 PM  
meanwhile in California... they are managing to keep state employee pensions and we even got a raise. Which will be nice once we run out of water and sink into the ocean and I have to pay some guy on a tire raft to get me to the Arizona shores.
 
2014-07-29 08:41:18 PM  
What is it about working peoples pensions that politicians and corporate CPA's cant keep their greasy fingers off of em'?
 
2014-07-29 08:43:04 PM  
Shouldn't the death panels help balance the pensions?
 
2014-07-29 08:45:40 PM  

Car_Ramrod: "Promises were made that can't be kept," Christie said of the state's public-employee pension system. "Welcome to the real world, folks."

Christie, what an asshole.


From the full article linked by DailyKOS:  "Christie has yet to say how, precisely, he plans to propose to fix the state's pension problem, which includes an unfunded liability that is about $40 billion and growing fast. In June, he again vetoed tax increases on businesses and the wealthy that were passed by the legislature "

So really, it's not that the promises can't be kept, it's that you made promises and then personally vetoed measures that the legislature took to fulfill them.
 
2014-07-29 08:47:28 PM  
I thought (but of course, I could be mistaken) that unions were one of the things Shelly Adelson told the invitees to his personal primary not to screw with, since he has a sometimes contentious, but typically decent, working relationship with them.

If I am remembering this correctly he is done as far as any future political aspirations go.
 
2014-07-29 08:48:09 PM  

Heraclitus: What is it about working peoples pensions that politicians and corporate CPA's cant keep their greasy fingers off of em'?


What ever are you talking about. They want public sector pensions. Just look at what they did to the postal service and forced them to fund the next 75 years of pensions.
 
2014-07-29 08:48:24 PM  
Read my lips: If you allow me to cut pensions, I promise I will continue to fund them
 
2014-07-29 08:48:33 PM  

Flargan: "Promises were made that can't be kept."
-FTA

He should have ran on a platform of "Promises made won't be kept."


BUt then...he'd be keeping his promises...which means he's breaking his promises....and his promises...promise promise proise promopmommmmmm suh sbzzzzzzzzzzft

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2014-07-29 08:48:50 PM  

Heraclitus: What is it about working peoples pensions that politicians and corporate CPA's cant keep their greasy fingers off of em'?


Well, there's money there, but it's not theirs, and some of that money may have come from them, you know as payment for services rendered. This is a violation of the natural order wherein things of value rise to the top. Money being the most valuable thing of all shouldn't be shackled to the whims of the grubby workers who will spend it locally on things like food and clothing. It must fly free and be invested in the mezzanine level derivatives of a bond sale for fractions of mortgages that his cousin's new intern swears has nowhere to go but up.
 
2014-07-29 08:49:23 PM  
If his future political opponents  don't run ads  showing him making that promise and then saying "promises were made that cannot be kept"  then they just don't want to win
 
2014-07-29 08:49:36 PM  
So they're still going to run Christie in 2016, right?
 
2014-07-29 08:49:43 PM  
media.npr.org

Bridgegate: "Mistakes were clearly made."

images.dailykos.com

Pensions: "Promises were made."

Somebody better find this overzealous staffer who keeps making these passively voiced, non-incriminatory mistakes.
 
2014-07-29 08:50:19 PM  
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2014-07-29 08:52:47 PM  

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That was the scene that made me fall in love with that show.
 
2014-07-29 08:53:02 PM  

Heraclitus: What is it about working peoples pensions that politicians and corporate CPA's cant keep their greasy fingers off of em'?


Screwing with public employees makes public service jobs less desirable, which means more qualified applicants will look elsewhere, which will diminish the quality of service provided, which makes it easier to justify privatizing it so that a wealthy buddy can make even more cash and set you up with a nice kickback or board position after you retire from politics.
 
2014-07-29 09:00:29 PM  
So he was forced to eat his words, you might say.
 
2014-07-29 09:01:52 PM  
Wtf is a pension?

-signed, the private sector
 
2014-07-29 09:02:16 PM  
I'm sure the taxpayers will be pleased as punch to pay lots more taxes so that retired government workers can collect fat pensions that taxpayers would NEVER get in private industry.

I fully expect the federal government to default on my Civil Service pension in about 10-15 years. At which point I'll probably have to reverse mortgage the farm to pay the taxes and subsist on food I grow myself, and keep myself warm with wood I cut myself. Until the bears get me.....
 
Ehh
2014-07-29 09:03:59 PM  

whidbey: So they're still going to run Christie in 2016, right?


He lied to working folks and took their money, so that's good. He kept marijuana illegal, even after some hippie asked if his daughter could have it for her seizures, so that's good. He yelled at a teacher who asked him a question, so that's good. On the other hand, he hugged the black guy who's president, so there's no way he'll ever win the GOP nomination.
 
2014-07-29 09:04:40 PM  

mark12A: I'm sure the taxpayers will be pleased as punch to pay lots more taxes so that retired government workers can collect fat pensions that taxpayers would NEVER get in private industry.

I fully expect the federal government to default on my Civil Service pension in about 10-15 years. At which point I'll probably have to reverse mortgage the farm to pay the taxes and subsist on food I grow myself, and keep myself warm with wood I cut myself. Until the bears get me.....


You are saying, then, that you believe that lying is acceptable?
 
2014-07-29 09:05:20 PM  

cchris_39: Wtf is a pension?

-signed, the private sector


Are you attempting to justify Governor Christie's act of lying? Do you believe lying to be an acceptable action?
 
2014-07-29 09:06:21 PM  
Ummm..hate to intrude on the circle jerk, but didn't a Republican just take personal responsibility?
 
2014-07-29 09:06:48 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: This is more damning than bridgegate IMO.  If there's one thing that should never be farked with, it's pensions.  The employee does their part, they're owed what they were promised.  Find a way to make it work, raise taxes, whatever.


Christie's just the latest in a long line of Jersey sleaze in the governor's mansion. This makes three in a row that should by all rights have done time.

As for the pensions, I can't exactly break out the big violin for a political culture that allows blatant public-servant double-dipping and pension-padding. Shiat like this makes New York look like Camelot.

When Gene Feyl was hired to head the state Highlands Council back in 2012, it meant a nice bump in pay. As executive director, he would be paid $116,000 a year - not bad for a man whose public paychecks, until then, averaged $30,000. It was also not too shabby for the guy whose lack of environmental experience led observers to question his qualifications to lead the agency responsible for executing New Jersey's most significant environmental law of the past decade. But here's the icing on the cake: Feyl's 23 months at the Highlands' helm means he'll collect a $63,000-a-year state pension for the rest of his life.


And that's been happening for decades.

Seriously, in a state that foisted Jon Corzine (D-Goldman Sachs) and Jim McGreevey (D-Boytoy Patronage) on us, ain't no room for any farkers to be getting sanctimonious. Both sides really are bad in New Jersey.

And before you say "Cory Booker" - nope.

He's an attention-seeking empty suit who got good press by being the first mayor of Newark in 50 years not to wind up in jail, doing splashy photo-ops instead of doing boring administrative shiat like maybe showing up at meetings and paying attention a little, in case somebody's stealing the city blind. Way to raise that bar, New Jersey!
 
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