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(Reuters)   With the U.S. prison population up by 430 percent from 1978 and 2009, isn't it time we start to weed out the stoners from the prisons?   ( blogs.reuters.com) divider line
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2014-07-29 08:03:57 PM  
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Biggest one I could find.
 
2014-07-29 08:05:57 PM  
DEA petitioned to have marijuana removed form the Class I list. That should help some.
 
2014-07-29 09:45:55 PM  
Prison should be for violent offenders only.
 
2014-07-29 10:05:17 PM  
Nah, let's waste $50,000 a year caging black kids. It's much more satisfying and non-wasteful use of funds than to give them welfare or better schools or college scholarships.
 
2014-07-29 10:34:58 PM  
I've read that drug possession inmates are the ideal with the for-profit prisons.  Easy money.
 
2014-07-29 10:43:52 PM  
Pot smokers make good prison workers.  Psychopaths and other actual, violent criminals can't be relied upon at all...
 
2014-07-29 10:53:18 PM  
The damage has already been done.  These people will be released, looking for a job, with a record, bitter and jaded, and made a worse person than when they went in.  Damaged goods.
 
2014-07-29 11:01:21 PM  
Close enough to 420%...
 
2014-07-29 11:03:22 PM  
How about re-evaluating what is classified as a felony and reviewing three strikes and mandatory minimums?
 
2014-07-29 11:04:24 PM  

basemetal: The damage has already been done.  These people will be released, looking for a job, with a record, bitter and jaded, and made a worse person than when they went in.  Damaged goods.


And good luck getting a decent job with a record anyways.
 
2014-07-29 11:04:59 PM  
I think we should prohibit more things that could hurt the children. This is just the price we must pay to protect the sexy little children.
 
2014-07-29 11:05:01 PM  
What about all those lost prison jobs?

/prison guards are the real victims here
 
2014-07-29 11:05:01 PM  
PhiloeBedoe
Pot smokers make good prison workers. Psychopaths and other actual, violent criminals can't be relied upon at all...


I am afraid this is closer to reality then we would like.
 
2014-07-29 11:05:12 PM  

smadge1: Close enough to 420%...


I see what you did there.
 
2014-07-29 11:10:48 PM  
and while you're at it let the freakin innocent glass users out too, fark man its gotta cost more to put them in there then on welfare!
 
2014-07-29 11:10:49 PM  
Or we could start reducing male sentences to equal what females get.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-l en gth-gender-gap_n_1874742.html
 
2014-07-29 11:11:06 PM  

basemetal: The damage has already been done.  These people will be released, looking for a job, with a record, bitter and jaded, and made a worse person than when they went in.  Damaged goods.


So when someone has a cavity you just tell them they have a cavity and send them home with a hole in their tooth, or do you do what you can to fix it?
 
2014-07-29 11:12:28 PM  
Maybe rather than send the stoners to prison, we could send them somewhere where they could toke up to their hearts content. It's got to be cheaper than prison. Hell, how expensive can a ticket to the Bronx be?
 
2014-07-29 11:15:28 PM  
Do they plan on doing anything to help these people put their lives back together once they're released? Any kind of training, education, or job placement help?

Or are they just going to throw them into the deep end of the pool with the equivalent of lead weights tied to their ankles. You've screwed up their lives. Kind of a 'you break it you bought it' scenario because simply turning these people loose with no options is just going to create another problem.
 
2014-07-29 11:18:12 PM  

doglover: basemetal: The damage has already been done.  These people will be released, looking for a job, with a record, bitter and jaded, and made a worse person than when they went in.  Damaged goods.

So when someone has a cavity you just tell them they have a cavity and send them home with a hole in their tooth, or do you do what you can to fix it?


I do what I get paid to do and is in the best interest of the patient.
 
2014-07-29 11:19:43 PM  
How about we find all the lifers and cut their sentences a bit short?  That should make some room.
 
2014-07-29 11:22:18 PM  

RatMaster999: How about we find all the lifers and cut their sentences a bit short?  That should make some room.


You mean like Norway? I'd be cool with that.
 
2014-07-29 11:31:42 PM  
How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!
 
2014-07-29 11:33:04 PM  
Or how crack has longer sentencing the coke. I wonder if there is something different about those two types of drugs...
 
2014-07-29 11:33:33 PM  

ramblinwreck: Or we could start reducing male sentences to equal what females get.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-l en gth-gender-gap_n_1874742.html


Reverse penis envy is not equality. Females getting special and preferential treatment is equality.

Get your head out of the clouds, son.
 
2014-07-29 11:34:46 PM  

Demonrats: How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!


Look at how dumb the words you wrote are!
 
2014-07-29 11:34:47 PM  
longhairs have prettier mouths
 
2014-07-29 11:34:53 PM  
There is some seriously subpar trolling going on tonight.
 
2014-07-29 11:35:49 PM  
Killing them all would be faster, cheaper, and more effective.
It has massive benefits, and zero drawbacks.
So...why aren't we doing that?
 
2014-07-29 11:36:16 PM  

edmo: DEA petitioned to have marijuana removed form the Class I list. That should help some.


Not quite, the DEA has been petitioned, multiple times by multiple entities. They rejected every single one of them. Marijuana growers and medical pot sellers are easy targets, far fewer guns.
 
2014-07-29 11:38:44 PM  
In nearly every state, mere possession of a personal quantity of pot is no more than a misdemeanor or equivalent.  In about a dozen, it's a civil infraction. We're not filling the prisons with with people with a few grams of pot.  We're filling them with people who traffic and sell it.

Of course, we could instead legalize pot, tax it, and spend the money (both what we save on enforcement and receive in taxes) on job training and economic development to give people an option other than drug dealing, but that would make sense.
 
2014-07-29 11:39:39 PM  

Demonrats: Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.


I happen to consider myself a citizen of a free society. As such I have an obligation to oppose unjust law, not just lap up whatever is told is on the "bad list"

Or as Martin Luther King Jr put it:

"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws.
Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."

But you keep on keeping on.
Another part of a free society is that people such as yourself are free to be as unquestioning, simplistic and subservient as you desire.
 
2014-07-29 11:39:46 PM  

sugardave: Demonrats: How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!

Look at how dumb the words you wrote are!


I'm sorry. I should be more considerate of heroin addicted prostitutes that enjoy shooting weapons in the inner city. Is that the Fark way?
 
2014-07-29 11:41:03 PM  

Demonrats: How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!


Trollicious.
 
2014-07-29 11:41:07 PM  

ds615: Killing them all would be faster, cheaper, and more effective.
It has massive benefits, and zero drawbacks.
So...why aren't we doing that?


I don't know, sounds like a well thought out plan to me!
 
2014-07-29 11:41:33 PM  
To really fix America's legal system:


1. NO PLEA DEALS Force everything to go to trial, force the police the DAs to find evidence to back up their story EVERY SINGLE TIME. You want to bargain? Let people off with a warning.

2. LOWER SENTENCES Too many people are in jail for a long time because of stupid mandatory minimums. We can increase bed space and decrease workloads on the judiciary simply by having non-violent people spend less time in jails. Hell, we can even have "jail camp" where you come in on the weekends and listen to lectures or something for really minor infractions that still require more than a citation.

3. NO REVENUE CRIMES No for profit anything in the legal system and police should not see a DIME of the money they confiscate via tickets. Neither should the local community. Tickets are supposed to be punishment, not income. Not quite sure where that money should go, but perhaps public healthcare or something. I'd have to look up what Norway does.

4. BURN THE REGISTRIES, LOCK THE RECORDS Have you ever been convicted of a felony? None of your god damn business. I know employers and such want to know. They also want to know if their employees are gay, Democrats, their Facebook passwords, what they eat, where they go at night, which women are having sex, everything. They don't deserve any of this information. If you've served your sentence, you should be back into society. Which brings me to point five...

5. REHABILITATION, NOT PUNISHMENT The point of law is to punish criminals, true, but only so they can mend their ways and re-intergrate into society. Some criminals cannot be re-intergrated, true, but that number is a lot lower than you'd think. Prison should not be the punishment itself, just the place where it happens.

In short, we should become more like Norway.
 
2014-07-29 11:42:04 PM  

Demonrats: I'm sorry. I should be more considerate of heroin addicted prostitutes that enjoy shooting weapons in the inner city. Is that the Fark way?


You came up with those, troll.

They're part of whatever discussion is going on in your head, and have no relevance to anyone elses posts or TFA.

try harder
 
2014-07-29 11:42:54 PM  

BSABSVR: There is some seriously subpar trolling going on tonight.


I dunno, I almost bought the STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS! drivel. It was too over the top in the long run though. I'd give it a 4/10.
 
2014-07-29 11:43:58 PM  
So... how many of these people are in prison for weed?  Or are we talking about the typically over-simplified position of liberating all the drug offenders?  How about the ones for whom drug offenses are just one of the felonies on their sheets?  So we could decriminalize drugs, and bounce 17% of the prison population back onto the streets.. and then what?  Take away the street dealers livelihoods and let darwin sort this out?
 
2014-07-29 11:46:33 PM  
Likewise, selling weed shouldn't be treated with the same harshness as a violent criminal's felony conviction.

We've got to get the Anslinger/J Edgar Hoover Era drug laws off our books.
 
2014-07-29 11:50:48 PM  
meanmutton:Of course, we could instead legalize pot, tax it, and spend the money (both what we save on enforcement and receive in taxes) on job training and economic development to give people an option other than drug dealing, but that would make sense.

I dunno man, have you seen the death toll that's occurred in WA and CO? Blood has been filling the streets. I mean, it's not as bad up here as when we legalized gay marriage, that was straight up Armageddon due to our lax gun laws. I really can't wait to get out of this affluent socialist hellhole and back to Real America.
 
2014-07-29 11:56:48 PM  
Sometimes snark isn't even therapeutic. What the fark are we doing, seriously? I'm glad I"m gonna be dead when the chickens come home to roost. Hopefully, I'll be dead.
 
2014-07-29 11:58:25 PM  

GodComplex: I really can't wait to get out of this affluent socialist hellhole and back to Real America.


Same here. I miss the days when our politicians spent their time trying to ban things like truck nutz. They need to be cracking down on heathens, not letting them out.
 
2014-07-30 12:02:01 AM  

Demonrats: How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!


So, are you insane or just an idiot?
 
2014-07-30 12:05:16 AM  

ramblinwreck: Or we could start reducing male sentences to equal what females get.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/men-women-prison-sentence-l en gth-gender-gap_n_1874742.html


This and the overincarceration of black men relative to white men are all rooted in the same thing - relative levels of Neoteny -- darkness of skin being just one characteristic of neoteny.

Women have higher levels of neoteny than men on average, people of northern European decent have higher average levels than people of southern European, all European have higher levels on average than people of African descent, but again with variation depending on the part of Africa.

Any given individual of course may vary from the average.  Women get treated differently from men, tall men differently than short, children differently than adults, etc. as a result.

Colorism is one term for how people with darker skin (whether male or female) are treated differently depending on skin color, but you can see similar responses either positive or negative depending on levels of all manner of traits associated with neoteny - height, proportion of eyes to face, proportion of jaw to the rest of the head, brows to the rest of the face, etc.

 It seems to be a root cause of a lot of things like sexism and racism, but those terms seem to be oversimplifying things since these biases exist within population groups when you break it down in a more granular fashion.

It's a really complex and interesting phenomenon and unfortunately not studied or understood well enough yet.
 
2014-07-30 12:07:21 AM  
How about we stop making prisons big business too?
 
2014-07-30 12:15:29 AM  
That's assuming that the increase is because of arrests for pot arrests.  Pot was illegal before 1978, and people regularly got arrested for it.  The biggest change in law, where more people are going to prison now, then they were in the 1970s is probably domestic violence and drunk driving.  That's not to say that people shouldn't go to prison for having a couple of joints on them, or a small baggy of weed, but seeing as how most pot "arrests" are handled by notices to appear, and not an actual night in jail anymore, I have always found these assumptions to be dubious.
 
2014-07-30 12:17:08 AM  
Hoosegow is better than the Clink.
 
2014-07-30 12:30:45 AM  
One of the interesting arguments I saw from the anti-pot crowd was that once cannabis is declared straigt up legal its prices will fall dramatically, and the oodles of tax funds promised by pro-pot would be substantially diminished.

Any truth to this?
 
2014-07-30 12:34:46 AM  

Demonrats: How about this... STOP DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS!  I don't see what is so hard about this crap.  A few years ago a guy named Larry Bright was going around Peoria, IL and killing black prostitutes. The black community was really mad because they police had not found the killer after 8 women were missing. In order to be safe the only requirement seemed to be that you had to not be 1) Black 2) Female 3) Prostitute and then life was normal. Stop breaking the law if you don't want bad things to happen to you.

Northwest Indiana had a bunch of bad heroin going around and killing users. The easiest way to not get hurt was to stop using heroin. That was it. The users knew that it was bad, but they still risked it anyhow. Good for them.

If something bad happens when you are breaking the law I am happy that that something bad happened to you. If you don't like the law, try to get it changed. If your uncle is ringing in the New Year with a revolver in Chicago (happened to a classmate from SIU Carbondale) and the cops shoot his leg, GOOD!


AAAAAAH! SO...DAMN...EAGER TO GNAW AT THE TROLL...like an addict?
 
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