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2014-07-28 02:41:56 PM  
Mostly the ones we can reuse as fuel, of course.
 
2014-07-28 02:58:58 PM  
He thinks there's one or two simple rules for solving all the complex problems in the world and he's totally into dinosaurs.

So he's me at 13.
 
2014-07-28 03:00:01 PM  
David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.
 
2014-07-28 03:02:46 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.


Just because he's a rich white guy who backs candidates that benefit his economic interests doesn't mean that he's a creationist religious nut job. The two don't have to intersect.
 
2014-07-28 03:03:53 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.


But just the right one.

Tigger: He thinks there's one or two simple rules for solving all the complex problems in the world and he's totally into dinosaurs.

So he's me at 13.


Certainly consistent Grover Norquist.
 
2014-07-28 03:04:28 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC


I noticed a wing at the Natural History Museum in NYC named after him, too.  (Was just there 2 weeks ago)
 
2014-07-28 03:16:42 PM  
I like dinosaurs and history.  I also like the music of Wagner, as did Hitler.  That doesn't mean I like Hitler.
 
2014-07-28 03:22:34 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.



Great, not only do we have a villain, he has to be analog.
 
2014-07-28 03:26:23 PM  
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2014-07-28 03:27:29 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.


People like the Koch brothers mobilize idiot fundies because they're easy to rile up against their own self-interest because Jesus/Freedom™/both, and unfortunately for them they still have to deal with the inconvenience of an actual voting process, and thus still need bodies in order to maintain control.

Corporatists are a lot of things, but they're not idiots. I'm not sure where that idea originates.
 
2014-07-28 03:45:37 PM  
My latest "Avatar" so to speak because we don't really have avatars here.

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2014-07-28 03:52:12 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.


Not only is it not creationist, but it is almost in your face pro-evolution and spends a good deal of time pounding home the message that all of humanity is a single closely related species and that any idea that there is a genetic basis for race is pure and utter bunk.

I was a bit surprised myself at the exhibit and it did cause me to allow that there might be SOME good in him yet
 
2014-07-28 03:58:36 PM  
He just likes to walk them.  ...After he opens the door and gets on the floor of course.
 
2014-07-28 04:07:50 PM  

Cagey B: gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.

People like the Koch brothers mobilize idiot fundies because they're easy to rile up against their own self-interest because Jesus/Freedom™/both, and unfortunately for them they still have to deal with the inconvenience of an actual voting process, and thus still need bodies in order to maintain control.

Corporatists are a lot of things, but they're not idiots. I'm not sure where that idea originates.




The are idiots for the very reason pointed out in this article. He firmly believes in science, yet funds politicians and political parties that are dead set against intellectuals abpnd science.

And he's putting his companies self interest above what would be brst gap for our country.

So he's a moron. With money.
 
2014-07-28 04:18:18 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Cagey B: gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.

People like the Koch brothers mobilize idiot fundies because they're easy to rile up against their own self-interest because Jesus/Freedom™/both, and unfortunately for them they still have to deal with the inconvenience of an actual voting process, and thus still need bodies in order to maintain control.

Corporatists are a lot of things, but they're not idiots. I'm not sure where that idea originates.

The are idiots for the very reason pointed out in this article. He firmly believes in science, yet funds politicians and political parties that are dead set against intellectuals abpnd science.

And he's putting his companies self interest above what would be brst gap for our country.

So he's a moron. With money.


Darth_Lukecash: Cagey B: gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.

People like the Koch brothers mobilize idiot fundies because they're easy to rile up against their own self-interest because Jesus/Freedom™/both, and unfortunately for them they still have to deal with the inconvenience of an actual voting process, and thus still need bodies in order to maintain control.

Corporatists are a lot of things, but they're not idiots. I'm not sure where that idea originates.

The are idiots for the very reason pointed out in this article. He firmly believes in science, yet funds politicians and political parties that are dead set against intellectuals abpnd science.

And he's putting his companies self interest above what would be brst gap for our country.

So he's a moron. With money.


That doesn't make him a moron, just a greedy old SOB that doesn't give a lick about the good of the country.  He's got his, and he can pay for his own little dinosaur exhibits.  If increasing his corporate profits or reducing his tax burden means kids in Mississippi learn that Jesus grew up riding dinosaurs, he's OK with that.
 
2014-07-28 04:24:25 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: That doesn't make him a moron, just a greedy old SOB that doesn't give a lick about the good of the country.  He's got his, and he can pay for his own little dinosaur exhibits.  If increasing his corporate profits or reducing his tax burden means kids in Mississippi learn that Jesus grew up riding dinosaurs, he's OK with that.


Yep.

It's not important to him if the little people have money.  I'm sure it's also not important to him that they have brains or education, either.  And educated middle class might not be so malleable, and that could undercut his money.

Personally I think it's self-defeating - or at the very least, unsustainable as a national model.  But for the time being, it seems to be working out just fine for him and those like him.
 
2014-07-28 04:27:58 PM  

Diogenes: And educated middle class might not be so malleable, and that could undercut his money.


I still don't understand that mindset. He doesn't have much time left in this mortal coil. He has more money than he could possibly spend. What is he working towards? Is it really some sort of game to these people?
 
2014-07-28 04:31:10 PM  

Mugato: Diogenes: And educated middle class might not be so malleable, and that could undercut his money.

I still don't understand that mindset. He doesn't have much time left in this mortal coil. He has more money than he could possibly spend. What is he working towards? Is it really some sort of game to these people?


When you look at the Koch family history, I think you have to conclude that they believe that is the correct order of things.  The wealthy are better people, and they should get to call the shots.  Those without money should defer to their betters in all things.
 
2014-07-28 04:35:56 PM  

Mugato: I still don't understand that mindset. He doesn't have much time left in this mortal coil. He has more money than he could possibly spend. What is he working towards? Is it really some sort of game to these people?


It's the principle that wealth is equivalent to virtue/morality/divine right or however they want to phrase it. To people like that, it is categorically unjust that the wealthy, who by definition are the best of society, are kept from their rightful role as unquestioned masters of all they survey.

And because Mr. Koch does not imagine himself as a villainous figure, he throws the plebeians crumbs like museums and PBS. Because in a truly just society, things like education or the arts are gifts from your kind, benevolent masters. Given out, of course, on the unquestioned terms of such people as Mr. Koch.

This also has the beneficial side effect of making certain people go "oh wow I thought he was some sort of fundie crazy person, I guess he's not so bad after all".
 
2014-07-28 04:41:51 PM  

Diogenes: Mugato: Diogenes: And educated middle class might not be so malleable, and that could undercut his money.

I still don't understand that mindset. He doesn't have much time left in this mortal coil. He has more money than he could possibly spend. What is he working towards? Is it really some sort of game to these people?

When you look at the Koch family history, I think you have to conclude that they believe that is the correct order of things.  The wealthy are better people, and they should get to call the shots.  Those without money should defer to their betters in all things.


Christ. I grew up in a middle class family, I got financial aid and some scholarships and help from my family through school, had to work a little too and I feel really lucky that I got the advantages that I got. I can acknowledge that there are millions of people who deserve what I was given more than me. I sure as fark aren't better than any of them. Do these people who are born millionaires not have an ounce of self awareness? Guess not. But at least they can be happy with what they have and just go away.
 
2014-07-28 05:27:15 PM  

Magorn: gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.

Not only is it not creationist, but it is almost in your face pro-evolution and spends a good deal of time pounding home the message that all of humanity is a single closely related species and that any idea that there is a genetic basis for race is pure and utter bunk.

I was a bit surprised myself at the exhibit and it did cause me to allow that there might be SOME good in him yet


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2014-07-28 05:55:54 PM  
He just wears one of two hats when required; the real world "i have to make money" hat, and the mythos based "fundie retard" hat.
 
2014-07-28 05:59:02 PM  
Whenever I hear about these greedy fark bags, I think of two other famous fark bag brothers

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2014-07-28 05:59:26 PM  
Alternatively, he is a rat, a small rodent, from a line of small rat-like rodents, who recalls those big crazy dinosaurs that all died out last time we had radical climate change, thus, this exhibit is part of a really good in-joke prior to re-inheriting the world for his kind.
 
2014-07-28 06:01:33 PM  
And yet the asshole is responsible for so many of the God damned Creationists we have infesting the government, so fark him.
 
2014-07-28 06:04:07 PM  
Satanic_Hamster: And yet the asshole is responsible for so many of the GodDarwin-damned Creationists we have infesting the government, so fark him.
 
2014-07-28 06:05:12 PM  
All of the robber barons had their pet philanthropic projects. How many different things are named for Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller Sr, and the Vanderbilts? It doesn't excuse their abhorrent behavior towards labor and the creation of monopolies.
 
2014-07-28 06:16:38 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.


Maybe he is an 80s villain. You know the type, kicking puppies and drowning orphans when nobody is looking but a famous philanthropist in public.

/Damn shame nobody ever trusts the cop saying bad things about him
 
2014-07-28 06:19:56 PM  
"If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"  obviously leads us to believe that rich = smart.  Prosperity gospel says rich people are rich because they're just so darn wonderful.
 
2014-07-28 06:25:19 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: "If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?"  obviously leads us to believe that rich = smart.  Prosperity gospel says rich people are rich because they're just so darn wonderful.


The converse is funny, though. "If you're so rich, why aren't you smart?"
 
2014-07-28 06:28:48 PM  
The more I learn about the Koch Brothers the more I admire them.

I consider myself and honorary Koch Brother.
 
2014-07-28 06:29:45 PM  

UberDave: He just likes to walk them.  ...After he opens the door and gets on the floor of course.


Boom boom acka lacka lacka boom
 
2014-07-28 06:32:43 PM  
I have noticed the Koch Foundation's name all over PBS when it comes to sponsorships.
 
2014-07-28 06:36:44 PM  

brigid_fitch: gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC

I noticed a wing at the Natural History Museum in NYC named after him, too.  (Was just there 2 weeks ago)


Probably funded a Right Wing.
 
2014-07-28 06:36:55 PM  

Diogenes: Mostly the ones we can reuse as fuel, of course.


Hahaha, done in one.  This was basically the first thing I thought, also.
 
2014-07-28 06:48:26 PM  
Why could it not have been Little Ponys? He could have loved Little Ponys.
Jesus on a pony would make such a FABULOUS picture.
Way better than that lizard.
 
2014-07-28 06:49:04 PM  

Magorn: and that any idea that there is a genetic basis for race is pure and utter bunk.


So they've flown straight out of right-wing nuttery and into left-wing nuttery. That's too bad.
 
2014-07-28 06:49:40 PM  

gilgigamesh: David Koch funded a wing at the Natural History Museum in DC.

With his name on it, I was expecting it to be an exhibit on creationism. But to my surprise, the exhibit was not just scientifically accurate, it was excellent.

Villains, like heroes, just aren't that binary in real life.


He's a complex creature, for sure. I don't agree with most of what he holds ideologically, but I can't help but think that if he were in NYC or LA instead of Wichita, he wouldn't get as much heat for his views. It's easy for the national press (based mainly on the coasts) to not want to go to the middle of the country to want to find out the real story on what a guy thinks, so he probably gets the devil-horn treatment a little more than he would otherwise.
 
2014-07-28 06:50:15 PM  
The Koch brothers are libertarian Republicans, not Evangilical Republicans.  At one time or another one brother or both have made statements supporting gay marriage, decriminilization of pot, and abortion, while expressing scorn for creationism or intelligent design.  There is a lot about the Koch Brothers that doesn't appeal to those on the left, but as a moderate, I see them as being largely a positive influence on the Republican party, and the best way of shutting up the Sarah Palin, religious radical wing of the GOP.  If a Republican wins the white house, I would much rather it be their Republican, rather than Rush Limbaugh's Republican.  There are a lot more bigger idiots on the right, the Koch brothers only get all the hate because they have the most money.
 
2014-07-28 06:51:44 PM  
That headline turned out to be more literal that I was expecting.

I was guessing an investment in some outdated company, not the regularly scheduled "Koch brother donates a bunch of money to something that doesn't fit the narrative" article.
 
2014-07-28 06:52:09 PM  
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/17/maryland-gop-candidate-is-a-neo - confederate-who-believes-in-creationism-but-not-state-laws/

I haven't been following this guy too closely, I remember his name but that's about it. How did someone this crazy win a primary in Maryland?
 
2014-07-28 06:53:25 PM  
The thing that nobody realizes about the koch brothers is that they are sociopaths. Dishonesty is second nature to them and they care not a lick about anyone else. When you put aside conscience, which they don't have, all that's left is a a game in which the aim is to win, by everyone else losing. Its zero sum in their minds. So, it does not surprise me in the least that this koch likes dinosaurs and understands science and yet has absolutely no problem with promoting an anti-science viewpoint in politics, as long as it gets him what he wants.
 
2014-07-28 06:53:30 PM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: The Koch brothers are libertarian Republicans, not Evangilical Republicans.  At one time or another one brother or both have made statements supporting gay marriage, decriminilization of pot, and abortion, while expressing scorn for creationism or intelligent design.  There is a lot about the Koch Brothers that doesn't appeal to those on the left, but as a moderate, I see them as being largely a positive influence on the Republican party, and the best way of shutting up the Sarah Palin, religious radical wing of the GOP.  If a Republican wins the white house, I would much rather it be their Republican, rather than Rush Limbaugh's Republican.  There are a lot more bigger idiots on the right, the Koch brothers only get all the hate because they have the most money.



I'd expect a Coke drinker to say that.
 
2014-07-28 06:53:55 PM  
Is this the thread where a man who only exists to fark you and your planet gets a free pass because he believes in reality?
 
2014-07-28 06:56:46 PM  

Mugato: I still don't understand that mindset. He doesn't have much time left in this mortal coil. He has more money than he could possibly spend. What is he working towards? Is it really some sort of game to these people?


For people with that much wealth, I don't think money is really the point.  The real point is egotism.

Their egos are drunk on the idea that they are part of a higher class of people whose ideas and opinions are better and more important than others.  They use their money to influence the direction of the country because they feel entitled to do so, and they feel entitled to do so precisely because they are rich and influential, which they take as proof that they must be better than everyone else.  They are the elite and should be listened to.

To them, the idea that money should NOT govern politics therefore feels personal.  They are being told that they should have less power which is like being told that they are NOT actually the "elite" of society and that their ideas are not more valuable than everyone elses.  I think they truly are offended, on a personal level, by that idea.  It hurts their feelings because they genuinely feel that they are part of an entirely different class of people.  As evidence you need look no further than Tom Perkins letter to the WSJ, where he compares the 1% to the Jews in Nazi Germany.  He feels that him and other people like him are being victimized!  LMAO!

TL;DR: the Koch's don't care about money so much as they care about feeling important by playing the country like a marionette.
 
2014-07-28 07:04:44 PM  
A lot of anger from the Left in this thread, there is.

I wonder if the comments would have the same tone if the story was about George Soros and his donations to dinosaur museums.
 
2014-07-28 07:06:14 PM  
David Koch, King of the Teabaggers, is not a racist anti-science Scrooge McDuck. What a surprise!
 
2014-07-28 07:06:32 PM  

Loadmaster: A lot of anger from the Left in this thread, there is.

I wonder if the comments would have the same tone if the story was about George Soros and his donations to dinosaur museums.


You live with your mom / 10
 
2014-07-28 07:15:08 PM  

Gawdzila: TL;DR: the Koch's don't care about money so much as they care about feeling important by playing the country like a marionette.


Yeah, that makes sesne. I'd rather be poor (well, middle class) than have that sense of entitlement nagging at me. I think you see less of this with people who actually earned their fortune rather than were born into it, like these tools.
 
2014-07-28 07:21:06 PM  
Great, now he can be known as David Koch, asshole/dinosaur enthusiast
 
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